David Young co-authored the Renew.org distortion on Baptism.  I am unwinding the personal opinions by just listing their Scripture Passages. I will have that ready in short order.  Each of three writers commented on various topics but David Young is responsible for all of it.  Their Calvinism obligates them to use the Bible but they REWRITE to fit their repudiation of thhe Word:

"We believe God SOVEREIGNLY SAVES as he sees fit,
BUT we are bound by Scripture to uphold THIS teaching about
to Jesus in faith through repentance, confession, and baptism."

Renew.Org: The WATER of baptism, or the ACT of baptism,  has no merit in itself;
it is simply the God-ordained method  of appealing BY FAITH
        to the saving work of Jesus Christ.

Baptism, Peter teaches,
is a PLEDGE of a good conscience
        based upon the resurrection of Jesus Christ

Many times the SAVED BY FAITH or Jesus Alone is the Mantra. Nothing else has merit: Baptism does NOT save us--refuting Jesus and Peter--Baptism is just the way to DEMONSTRATE our FAITH. And because we are saved by FAITH, Peter's saying BAPTISM DOES NOT SAVE US:

Contrary to the Greek: Baptism Saves because it is how we APPEAL to or ASK Jesus to add us to His Church.
In the remote sense where "answer" includes a PLEDGE, it is JESUS who pledged to save us by baptism and NOT the sinners PLEDGE or guarantee to be good.

There is nothing that a humanoid has to give in PLEDGE.  Baptism SAVES because God PLEDGED  to save believers and DROWN those who did not OBEY and got into the ARK (Coffin).  The WATER SAVED those who obeyed because the mockers were DROWNED.

The Red Sea was another prophetic Types.

Here is how God SOVEREIGNLY SAVES and He has defined WHO IS FIT.

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world,
        and preach the GOSPEL to every creature. [Not just the Calvinists]
Mark 16:16 He that BELIEVETH (Pistis includes to Comply)
        AND is baptized SHALL BE saved;
        but he that believeth not [Apistos marks treachery of anyone calling Jesus a liar]
        shall be DAMNED.

John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness,
        even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

Renew.Org: John 3:16: For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him SHALL not perish but have eternal life.

John affirming Jesus: 
John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him SHOULD not perish, but have eternal life.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world,
        that he gave his only begotten Son,
        that whosoever believeth in him [
AND is baptized] SHOULD not perish,
        but have everlasting life.

Contrary to those Jesus marks as BLASPHEMERS and John identified as ANTICHRISTS. Jesus was not declared the Son of God, Lord or Christ until 30 years after He was born in the FLESH.  After His baptism God's SPIRIT SPOKE and confessed Jesus who had confessed the Father. While Jesus was sinless, He was not SANCTIFIED or ordained to speak for God until He was SANCTIFIED to serve as Priest.

The Scribes and Pharisees claimed that Jesus made Himself God and Jesus responded.

John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified,  [given A holy spirit]
        and sent into the world,
        Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Only after Jesus was REGENERATED and Glorified:

Rom. 14:9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived,
        THAT he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

Rev. 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness,
        and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth.
        Unto him that loved us,
        and washed [baptized] us FROM OUR sins in his own blood,
Heb. 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart
        in full assurance of faith,
        having our hearts sprinkled FROM an evil CONSCIENCE,
        and our bodies washed [baptized] with pure [purifying] water.


A FAITHFUL PERSON COMPLIES WITH WHATEVER GOD COMMANDS. Faith, by definition and literature means that you must believe and COMPLY by being baptize SO THAT your sins be forgiven.
John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world;
        but that the world through him might be saved.
John 3:18 He that BELIEVETH on him is NOT condemned:
        but he that BELIEVETH NOT
[Apistos marks treachery of anyone calling Jesus a liar]      
        is condemned already,
        because he hath not believed
        in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

The Believeth Nots demand that Jesus was GOD IN THE FLESH.
They cannot confess that "Jesus is the Christ the SON of the Living God."
AntiChrists confess and publish that God was in the FLESH.

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation,
        that LIGHT is come into the world,  [Kosmos, Ecumenical, kingdom of the Devil]
        and men loved darkness rather than
        because their deeds were evil.
These same false teachers will INFILTRATE and DIVERT (heresy) YOUR Congregation for their OWN fun and PROFIT.  The School of Christ becomes their THEIR THEATER for rhetoric, singing, playing instruments and TITHES AND OFFERINGS.  This is best facilitated if you you cause people to HATE those who believe that the historic TEXT has now become obsolete.  And so, this document uses a lot of self-write to MAKE VOID the Scriptures.  Why else would people sell and you buy songs and sermons claiming to ENHANCE the Words of the Spirit of God?

The SPIRIT of Christ meant that God put His WORDS into the MOUTH of men like Isaiah which is parallel to Mark 16 in Isaiah 1.  Here is why Jesus called the Scribes and Pharisees A RACE OF VIPERS.
Isaiah 8

Isa 8:19
And when they shall say unto you,
        Seek unto them that have familiar SPIRITS, [Witch of Endor, empty wineskins or Nebel]
        and unto WIZZARDS that PEEP, and that MUTTER:
                should not a people seek unto their God?
                for the living to the dead
[19] et cum dixerint ad vos quaerite a pythonibus et a divinis qui stridunt in incantationibus suis numquid non populus a Deo suo requirit pro vivis a mortuis
The Pythian Spirit which Paul cast out of the young girl is connected to Apollon.

-cantus , ūs, m. id., 2. With instruments, a playing, music: “in nervorum vocumque cantibus,Cic. Tusc. 1, 2, 4; id. Rosc. Am. 46, 134: citharae,Hor. C. 3, 1, 20: “horribili stridebat tibia cantu,Cat. 64, 264: “querulae tibiae, Hor. C. 3, 7, 30:
B. An incantation, charm, magic song, etc.: cantusque artesque magorum. Ov. M. 7, 195; 7, 201: “at cantu commotae Erebi de sedibus imis Umbrae ibant,Verg. G. 4, 471: “magici,
To the law and to the testimony:
        if they speak not according to this word,
        it is because there is no light in them. Isa 8:20

David Young and Renew.Org translation:
1 Peter 3:21-22: This water [Noah’s] symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who has gone into heaven and is at God’s right hand—with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.



1Pet. 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust,
        that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh,
        but quickened by the [HIS] Spirit:

1Pet. 3:19 By which also HE went and preached unto the SPIRITS in prison;
1Pet. 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient,
        when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah,
        while the ark was a preparing,
        wherein few, that is, eight souls were SAVED BY WATER

Baptism is the ANTITYPE which WE can imitate and BE SAVED.  Answer is not OUR pledge or a SYMBOL but the imitation of that symbol.  UNLESS you would like to build your own ark or be crucified which is ANTI GRACE.

1Pet. 3:21 The like Anti-Tupon whereunto
        even baptism doth also now save us
        (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh,  [Jewish Baptisms]
        but the answer of a good conscience toward God,)
        by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

1Pet. 3:22 Who is gone into heaven,
        and is on the right hand of God;
        angels and authorities and powers
        being made subject unto him


The Holy Spirit OF God says that BAPTISM SAVES. Period, hard stop.  God putting His Words into the Mouth of Isaiah as the Spirit concerning Christ defined Baptism in the same way as Mark. WE have nothing to pledge and so we  OBEY that form of Doctrine where God through Christ PLEDGED that we would be Reborn or Regenerated with A holy spirit or A good conscience.

ARK is defined as a COFFIN. It was covered outside and inside with blood-red bitumen and God ordained that WATER would save them while it judged those who "believeth not."

These twisters of Scripture say that Baptism was a SYMBOL.
Tupos is a PATTERN intended to be IMITATED.  The ark was the PATTERN
The Anti- (instead of) Tupos

1Pet. 3:21 The like Anti-Tupon whereunto
        even baptism doth also now save us
        (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh,  [Jewish Baptisms]
        but the answer of a good conscience toward God,)
        by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Answer is translated Request or Baptism Saves because we. REQUEST that  Jesus give us A holy spirit or A good conscience.  In the remote case where PLEDGE is used, it is JESUS who made the Pledge.  We stipulate that we now have A Good Conscience or A holy spirit.  In 2 Corinthians 3 we have to TURN, be Converted or Baptized before we can READ or HEAR the Word:

Suneidēsis , eōs, , A.knowledge shared with another, tōn algēmatōn
2. communication, information, heurēseis s. P ).
3. knowledge, lue tauta panta dialeipsas agathē s.leib-ō
leib-ō    ANOINTING aleiphō 4. metaph., prepare as if for gymnastics,battle  agōnian encourage, stimulate, instigate
4. consciousness, awareness,
5. consciousness of right or wrong doing, conscience,
Heurēseis find that, find means, be able, heu. hodon
eisēnegkan tois kollēgais autōn carry with one, sweep along, of a river,
bring in for oneself, 3. bring in with one, introduce,
get a chance of, be able
logous heurisketai deeds make themselves words

Alexander Campbell Millennial Harbinger Abridge 575 And Christian System Regeneration p 240    Our opponents contend for a regeneration begun and perfected before faith or baptism—a spiritual change of mind by the Holy Spirit antecedent to either knowledge, faith, or repentance, of which infants are as susceptible as adults;
        and therefore, as we contend, make the gospel of no effect.
 By way of reprisals they would have their converts to think that
        we go for nothing but water, and sarcastically call us the advocates of " water regeneration."
They think there is something more sublime and divine in "spirit regeneration."

He was immersed, and Into the kingdom of God he came. Do as Cornelius did, and then you will think of it in another light — then you would not for a world be unregenerate. To have the PLEDGE, the PROMISE, and SEAL of God
        of the remission of all your sins, to be adopted into his family,
        and to receive the Spirit OF A SON OF GOD. [never a person]

When people claim that they have a Spirit guiding them beyond the sacred pages, believe them. Spiritus personified in the Latin MARKED Apollo, Apollyon or Abaddon.  He was one of the stars the Jews brought with them out of Egypt.  He is the leader of the Locusts or his musical worship team.  The Babylon mother of harlots (Rev 17) has a priesthood of literal or physically emascuclated priests who were "lusted after fruits."  They are called Sorceers and  may already being CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.  CONSUMED BY THE SPIRIT OF THEIR MOUTHS.

In ALL instances where the Spirit pours, falls, rests, baptizes etal IT (the Breath of God) produces WORDS.
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Updated Archieves for the TARGETED posting I have been loading onto my Site Map to REALLY Pour out God's Spirit which means to Quote what God poured out by putting His WORDS directly into the MOUTH of a Moses, the Prophets and LASTLY into the MOUTH of Jesus of Nazareth whom God empowered to be Christ and Lord to ARTICULATE only what God Breathed or inSPIRITED Him to speak.  He passed on the PATTERN only to the Apostles:

David Young A New Day Romans one  I have added "the rest of the story" throgh Romans 3.  People were RIGHTEOUS before, during and following the Law of Moses.  The meaning of IS IS IS even if the Jews kept the Law of Moses it did not make unrighteous people righteous. God nullified the idea of being DISQUALIFIED for Discipleship at the same time he purified SWINE.

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-theotēs , ētos, , A  divinity, divine nature, Ep.Col.2.9, Plu.2.359d, Luc. Icar.9, etc.; dia theotēta for religious reasons
OR: hosi-otēs , ētos, , A. disposition to observe divine law, piety
Latin Godhead or Divine is: dīvīnĭtas  Divine quality, divine nature, excellence; of the orator
Dīvīnus  I. of or belonging to a deity, divine divina studia colere  divina facta, i. e., religious exercise, divine worship, sacrifice, etc Divine ORIGIN.
The divine, that which comes from God, BUT: the kingdom does not come with RELIGIOUS OBSERVATION or LYING WONDERS.
        Heb. 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

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Moloch: Among other Phśnician settlements in Cyprus were, it is probable, Salamis, Ammochosta (now Famagosta), Tamasus, and Soli. Salamis must be regarded as originally Phśnician on account of the name, which cannot be viewed as anything but another form of the Hebrew "Salem," the alternative name of Jerusalem.

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H3878 lęvı̂y lay-vee' From H3867 ; attached; Levi, a son of Jacob:—Levi. See also H3879 , H3881 .
H3867 lâvâh law-vaw' A primitive root; properly to twine, that is, (by implication) to unite, to remain; also to borrow (as a form of obligation) or (causatively) to lend:—abide with, borrow (-er), cleave, join (self), lend (-er).
H3882 livyâthân liv-yaw-thawn' From H3867 ; a wreathed animal, that is, a serpent (especially the crocodile or some other large sea monster); figuratively the constellation of the dragon; also as a symbol of Babylon:—leviathan, mourning.




Isaiah.55.Word.Spirit  That's why Jesus is alive in the STATE of Holy Spirit and WON'T let you speak the Word, Logos or Regulative Principle which outlaws rhetoric, singing, playing instruments or personal opinions.

Rom. 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime [Prophets only]
        were written for our learning,
        that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
Rom. 15:6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth  [Unison]
        glorify God,  [Theos]
        even the Father of our Lord [Kurios] Jesus Christ.

Both male (mediators) and female (mediators) are to be silent because:

1Tim. 2:5 For there is one God,
        and one mediator between God and men,
        the MAN Christ Jesus;

THAT REPUDIATES GENESIS 1 CREATION BY THE ELOHIM.  This is to REBUKE the Hebrews who rose up in Instrumental-Trinitarian-Perverted Idolatry at Mount Sinai FOR WHICH God turned them back over (Acts 7 etal) to to the worship of the Starry Host, IMPOSED the Law of Moses and sentenced them to Captivity and Death.  Apollo, Apollon or Abaddon defines the SERVICE of the Jacob-Cursed and God-Abandoned Levites to continue their historic Infant Holocaust priesthood in Egypt.  This Greek, Babylon of the WORLD'S religion was alive in Egypt before Moses REHEARSED the well-documented history of the people.   In Genesis 49 Jacob cursed LEVI and commanded that people nOT enter into covenant with them or attend their SYNAGOGUES.

Atrahasis and Human Creation

Moses wants those who were educated to understand why Jehovah-Elohim finished His WORD and RESTED: He finished all

Rom. 1:20 For the INVISIBLE things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen,
        being understood by the things that are made,
        even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom. 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness
        through the lusts of their own hearts,
        to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Rom. 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie,
        and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator,
        who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Paul in Romans 1 defines the Instrumental-Trinitiarian-Perverted worship which REPUDIATED and REPUDIATES God's Creation Account and why the WORLD'S RELIGION: Kosmos, ECUMENICAL or the Kingdom of Satan follows the SUMERIAN-Babylonian creation account.

Greek and Latin Psallo speaks of mounting a violent (bow twang) or Sexual Attack.  That is why melody is IN the heart and SILENT.
PSALLO outlaws Musical Instruments beyond making the lambs dumb before the slaughter.

The Kairos Church Planting Plot:
diverting into instrumental music sectarians.

When the Jews came out of Egypt they LOST their favored status and God sentenced them to Assyria and Babylon for captivity and destruction. The SEED of the dispersed did not take root except by a very small memales.

Amos 5:26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images,
        the STAR of your god, which ye made to yourselves.

Acts 7:41 And they made a calf in those days,
        and offered sacrifice unto the idol,
        and rejoiced in the works of their own hands

The practice in the wilderness, tyre and Jerusalem

Acts 7:42 Then God turned,
        and gave them up to worship the HOST of heaven; 
        as it is written in the book of the prophets,
        O ye house of Israel,  have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices
        by the space of forty years in the wilderness?

Amos 5:27 Therefore will I cause you to go into
        captivity beyond Damascus,
        saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.
Acts 7:43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, 
        and the star of your god Remphan, 
        figures which ye made to worship them: 
        and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.


Trumpet, drums, flute, cymbals and castinets with buffoons
Psallo permits ONLY smiting a string with your FINGERS: not a plectrum
Psallo and SOP have the same root meaning.


Revelation 18F: they are all called Sorcerers who HAD once deceived the whole world.

And they shall make a spoil of thy riches, and make a prey of thy merchandise: and they shall break down thy walls, and destroy thy pleasant houses: and they shall lay thy stones and thy timber and thy dust in the midst of the water. Ezek 26:12

And I will cause the noise of thy SONGS to cease;
        and the sound of thy HARPS shall be no more heard.
         Ezek 26:13
And I will make thee like the top of a rock: thou shalt be a place to spread nets uponthou shalt be built no more: for I the Lord have spoken it, saith the Lord God. Ezek 26:14

Thus saith the Lord God to Tyrus; Shall not the isles shake at the sound of thy fall,  when the wounded cry, when the slaughter is made in the midst of thee? Ezek 26:15

Sono:  to make a noise, to sound, resound: aes sonit, the trumpet sounds plectra,Prop. 4 (5), 7, 62. tympana,

Then all the princes of the sea shall come down from their thrones,
        and lay away their robes, and put off their broidered garments:
        they shall clothe themselves with trembling; they shall sit upon the ground,
        and shall tremble at every moment, and be astonished at thee. Ezek 26:16
Ezek. 33:4 Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.

Ezek. 33:30 Also, thou son of man, the children of thy people still are talking against thee by the walls and in the doors of the houses, and speak one to another, every one to his brother, saying, Come, I pray you, and hear what is the word that cometh forth from the Lord.

Ezek. 33:31 And they come unto thee AS the people cometh,
      and they sit before thee
AS my people,
      and they hear thy WORDS,
           but they will not do them:
for with their MOUTH they shew much love,
          BUT their heart goeth after their covetousness.

Ezek. 33:32 And, lo, thou art UNTO them
         as a very lovely SONG
         of one that hath a pleasant VOICE,
         and can PLAY WELL on an INSTRUMENT:
                 for they hear thy words,
                 but they do them not.


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