Wineskins: Mike Cope Highland Church of Christ

Breaking Walls: "But they would have the rabbit out of hiding, To please the yelping dogs." That's how walls get broken down. Mike Cope and Highland Church of Christ endorsing new wineskins, Walk to Emmaus, Promise Keepers, Bible Study Fellowship and apparently gleefully the demise of conservative churches.


Rubel Shelly (and Mike Cope) beginning the Frog Burning at Woodmont Hills.
Fruits Finally Ripened at Woodmont Hills

Apollyon or Abaddon is the ONLY Personified Spirit: He is the king of the LOCUSTS or MUSES.
Mike Cope Pepperdine Spirit Filled    Spirit means WIND or BREATH or FLATULENCE!

Leonard Allen Lipscomb says: The very TRUTH about Christ--that HE is God in the Flesh, Son Saviour, and Messiah--becomes INTELLIGIBLE through the deep work of the Spirit.
The Spirit OF God says: 1John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that JESUS CHRIST (Seed of David)   is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.  [Jesus of Nazareth was neither Christ nor Lord until God the Father gave him those roles over His kingdom.
Greek g4151.  pneuma, pnyoo´-mah;(from 4154 Pneo TO BREATHE;)
   i.e. BREATH (blast) or a breeze;
          A spirit, i.e. (human) the rational soul,
   (by IMPLICATION) vital principle, mental disposition, etc.,
OR (superhuman) an angel, demon, or (divine) God, Christ’s spirit, the Holy Spirit: —ghost, life, spirit(-ual, -ually), mind. Compare 5590.

1Tim. 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved [SAFE],
      and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
     [The Word-Logos: OURLAWS rhetoric, singing, playing instruments "speaking your own words."]
1Tim. 2:5 For there is ONE GOD
       and one mediator between God and men,
       the MAN Christ Jesus;

Jesus said My WORDS are SPIRIT and the are LIFE.
Jesus as the promised PARAKLETE returned to the upper room and POURED OUT WHAT YOU SEE AND HEAR.  The heard the wind or BREATH and tongues of fire to be POURED OUT to baptized the Race of VIPERS.

When God pours out SPIRIT (breath) the result is SPEAKING God's Wo

Ef-fundo  to pour out, pour forth, shed, spread abroad cultus in verbis,Quint. 3, 8, 58.—
spiritum,Tac. A. 2, 70.— [Breath]

A. In gen.: “effudi vobis omnia, quae sentiebam,” i. e. have freely imparted, Cic. de Or. 1, 34 fin.; cf. id. Att. 16, 7, 5; id. Fl. 17, 41; Quint. 2, 2, 10; 10, 3, 17; Val. Fl. 7, 434: “procellam eloquentiae
Is. 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
        so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Is. 55:10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven,
        and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth,
        and maketh it bring forth and bud,
        that it may give SEED to the sower, and BREAD to the eater:
Is. 55:11 So shall my WORD be that goeth forth [“spiritus,] out of my MOUTH:
        it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please,
        and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Verbum, whence eirō and rhēma, what is spoken or said; language, discourse, conversation, Logos: the Regulative principle opposite to Rhetoric, singing, playing instruments or any personal opinions or experiences.
rhēma , atos, to, (erō)  A.that which is said or spoken, word, sayin
Opposite. ergon, Th.5.111; opp. to alēthes, Pl.Phd.102b word for word
rhētr-a , A.verbal agreement, bargain, covenant,

John 6:62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Acts 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy [SPEAK]

g4487. rhema, hray´-mah; from 4483;

g4483. rheo, hreh´-o, for certain tenses of which a prolonged form
    ejre÷w ereo, er-eh´-o is used; and both as alternate for 2036 perhaps akin (or identical) with 4482 (through the idea of POURING FORTH); to utter, i.e. SPEAK or say: — command, make, say, speak (of). Compare 3004.
Spīrĭtus , a breathing or gentle blowing of air, a breath,
WHEN PERSONIFIED spiritum Phoebus [Apollon-Abaddon] mihi, Phoebus artem Carminis dedit, poetic spirit or inspiration, Hor

Used to
occŭpo  to lay hold of; hence, to take possession of, seize, occupy any thing 2. To fall upon, attack one with any thing tyrannidem,tyrannis , “tyrannidem occupare
Pepperdine/NACC Christian Worship Depicted in Revelation?
The sounds above Zion (the church) in prophetic types by Christ and in final warning in Revelation are signs to MARK AND AVOID those who have had their candlestick removed and ABANDONED to the worship of the COSMIC or Creature which is well recorded as instrumental idolatry at Mount Sinai. The next event will be Cast Alive into the Lake of Fire for taking the mark (mind control) of the Beasts (a new style of music and drama claiming to lead you into the presence of God.)

Pepperdine 2013 Annual Bible Lectures Mike Cope featuring Rick Atchley who was told by "a" spirit that God commanded instrumental praise.

The LONG PRAYER looking for the will of God to USE WOMEN means that it takes a long time to FORCE weak elders to give in and concede that they have lost control. This really could matter less: there is no way that a mega church so far removed from the Word of God can do anything but continue to EMASCULATE your children under what was always seen as EFFEMINATE worship in both SPEAKING and MUSIC.

Whatever the facts religious musicians have always been gender-bent.  That is why up to half of the "owners" flee and leave their "investment" behind:

Amanda Eubanks, has requested that we remove her observations about the blurring of sexual roles during dramatic performances. However, ancient literature from Babylonian tablets and beyond agree with Johannes Quasten. In Music and Worship in Pagan and Christian Antiquity, beginning on page 41 He uses many of the church Fathers and Classical resources we also rely upon:

"Philodemus considered it paradoxical that music should be regarded as veneration of the gods while musicians were paid for performing this so-called veneration. Again, Philodemus held as self deceptive the view that music mediated religious ecstasy. He saw the entire condition induced by the noise of cymbals and tambourines as a disturbance of the spirit.

He found it significant that, on the whole, only women and effeminate men fell into this folly.

Accordingly, nothing of value could be attributed to music; it was no more than a slave of the sensation of pleasure, which satisfied much in the same way that food and drink did.

Similar opinions may be found in the writings of Philo. On one occasion he spoke of the Jewish "Feast of Fasting," used by the Greeks for the Day of Atonement:

"Now, many a man from the false religions, which are not ashamed of criticising what is noble, will ask: how can there be a feast without carousing and overeating, without the pleasant company of hosts and guests, without quantities of unmixed wine, without richly set tables and highly stacked provisions of everything that pertains to a banquet, without pageantry and jokes,

bantering and merry-making to the accompaniment of flutes and citharas, the sound of drums and cymbals and other effeminate and frivolous music of every king,

enkindling unbridled lusts with the help of the sense of hearing. For in and through the same [pleasures] those persons openly seek their joy, for what true joy is their they do not know.

Women's singing was a vital part of all pagan worship. In very early times women became priestly singers of the gods in the temple.

"Women and girls from the different ranks of society were proud to enter the service of the gods as singers and musicians. The understanding of this service was universal: these singers constituted the 'harem of the gods'." (End of Quasten)


See the meaning of Women Taking over the Ekklesia The women grow long beards and the men grow short skirts.
See how they lie about Miriam.
See how they lie about Deborah

See Rubel Shelly's take on Deborah
See Deborah and Jael. Wanna spike driven in your trusting, sleeping head?

See how they lie about Huldah
Richland Hills Church of Christ and the Deaconess
Ezekiel 13 - Women in Ministry - Rubel Shelly
1 Timothy 3:11 - Deaconesses

What can you do? First, you should understand that the notion of the TITHE is a lie. Like the Jubilee concept it repudiates the Atonement of Jesus Christ and tries to get you to see that church, buildings, rituals and priesthood is a RESTORATION of the Law of Moses which is still in effect. There is no AUTHORITY for paying false teachers to take away your church and deliberately sow discord based on God blinding their eyes.

Secondly, you must grasp that THE LAW OF GIVING is a very big lie. You OWE a mega "church plant" absolutely not even the widow's mite. Remember that Jesus praised the widow for giving her ALL but because the "preachers and elders" took it He let their "buildings and grounds" be destroyed for the third time and they probably ATE their children until they starved to death. They are still EATING UP the Widow's living.

The GOSPEL means that Jesus paid it all and NONE do you owe to a pagan worship center. Click here to see that they lie about the Bible and ALL of church history. If you give them another penny I assure you that God will not bless you.

Mike Cope: He says again, "Good fences make good neighbors."

That "something is actually a Someone: our God, who in Jesus Christ has proven himself an enemy of dividing walls (Ephesians 2:14).

Let the walls come down! 

For there is no fear that any man should merit exile,
if he be kept safe therein by its protecting walls.

But any man that may no longer wish to dwell there,
does equally
no longer deserve to be there.

Here is the product of Journals and Universities gone Post-Modern (Post Biblical) as Universities tend to do.

Madison Church of Christ Concerned Members Forum

Madison Church of Christ: Musical Seed Sown, Thistles of Discord Reaped as Planned.

See how Godly Deacons Draw A line in the MUCK. 

The thesis of this article is that according to Mike Cope God is performing a divine service by breaking down the walls between all "denominations." The anti-thesis is that God universally warns that when the walls come tumbling down He might be involved by letting the "wild beasts" into the vineyard which has drowned itself in a shrinking supply of new wine to the tune of instrumental music. (Isaiah 5). Click for a Pre- Mike Cope Version

Notes From Florida Christian Convention/National Missionary Convention 1985

"A round of applause awaits the convention speaker who will announce that we are saved by Jesus, not doctrine. Brotherhood scholars

impressed by German theology
are throwing up a wall between Jesus and doctrine.

"This one-eyed theology is catchy; it breathes rhetorical authority. By design it eases the force of doctrine, mitigates the raw authority of Scripture, accredits human testimony, and expands the range of union. But it won't work. Jesus does not descend in euphoric mystery; He comes clothed in the Apostles' Doctrine and swells in our hearts by faith....

"The Sissification of the Church. The universal trend is for Church to surrender to culture, and our culture is a sissified one. That's the word, not feminine. Modern so-called feminism is not feminine; it is little more than broken womanhood crying out for identity and significance.

"As a culture removes itself from God, its masculine virtue fades and a twisted femaleness takes over.

"That's why homosexuality is the end of the line in the mind of God. Good men become bad men, but when men stop being men and women stop being women, the creation image is destroyed and all is lost. Ours is a country that can barely, if at all, bring itself to execute its child murderers; it doesn't have the nerve to defend its legitimate international interests. It divinizes poverty and failure while it denigrates successful competence.

It has no future but limp-wristed oblivion.
The real world is not the place for sissified men, societies,
or churches.

"The modern Church is being sissified. It whispers repentance and shouts forgiveness. Permissiveness reigns falsely in the name of grace. Church discipline? Since when? The modern Church appears to believe that patience is the only virtue. It remembers to sing but forgets to spank. The church that cannot work up the nerve to excommunicate its pro-abortion people, its life-destroying gossips, or its womanizing deacons, is hardly tough enough to threaten Satan's world system. The sissified Church has an astounding toleration for false doctrine.

"The Sissified Church wants to do formally what it has done actually in hundreds of congregations--turn over leadership to the women. This is a dreadful offense to godly women and a threat to their dynamic, legitimate ministries. Weak men want to escape the responsibility that God has given them in the church and in the home; women who are the product of third generation matriarchies have no idea how to be in submission to any man, husband in the home or elder in the church.

Few local congregations attract what natural male leadership is available;

true masculinity cannot stomach the saccharin unreality that oozes from the pulpit and glows in the assembly. Written in 1985 by Roger R. Chambers

Adolf Hitler noted that the leaders of such a society or, in his words community, create a force of effeminate, unquestioning "human material" but in the end they will not have the manly courage to continue the fight. And so it will sink into localized groups of self-seeking people unable to muster the courage or energy to continue the fight beyond the "cell."

This is not a novel. It is a collection of events which show the danger of "breaking down the walls." On the contrary, we cannot find God suggesting that the "little flock" tear down the fences to the masses who are wolves.

Cyrus Breaking Down Walls

Heredotus wrote:

Inheriting from his father a war with the Milesians,

he pressed the siege against the city by attacking it in the following manner.
When the
harvest was ripe on the ground he marched his army into Milesia to the sound of pipes and harps, and flutes masculine and feminine.

The buildings that were scattered over the country he neither pulled down nor burnt, nor did he even tear away the doors, but left them standing as they were.

He cut down, however, and utterly destroyed all the trees and all the corn throughout the land, and then returned to his own dominions.

And of Cyrus:

Cyrus listened attentively to their proposals, and answered them by a fable.

"There was a certain piper," he said, "who was walking one day by the seaside, when he espied some fish;

so he began to pipe to them, imagining they would come out to him upon the land.
But as he found at last that his hope was vain,
he took a net, and enclosing a great draught of fishes, drew them ashore.

The fish then began to leap and dance; but the piper said,

'Cease your dancing now, as you did not choose to come and dance when I piped to you.'" [When Jesus refused to come when the Jews piped they had Him murdered]

Cyrus gave this answer to the Ionians and Aeolians,

because, when he urged them by his messengers to revolt from Croesus, they refused; but now, when his work was done, they came to offer their allegiance. It was in anger, therefore, that he made them this reply.

The Ionians, on hearing it, set to work to fortify their towns, and held meetings at the Panionium

The following is the way in which the loss of Smyrna happened. Certain men of Colophon had been engaged in a sedition there, and being the weaker party, were driven by the others into banishment.

The Smyrnaeans received the fugitives, who, after a time, watching their opportunity,
while the inhabitants were celebrating a
feast to Bacchus (new wine) outside the walls, shut to the gates, and so got possession of the town.

The Aeolians of the other States came to their aid, and terms were agreed on between the parties, the Ionians consenting to give up all the moveables, and the Aeolians making a surrender of the place.
expelled Smyrnaeans were distributed among the other States of the Aeolians, and were everywhere admitted to citizenship.

Look at that again:

The fugitives from Colophon sought "fellowship" witht the Smyrnaeans.
The Smyrnaeans worshiped Bacchus

With Bacchus or Dionysus worship

While they were busy the fugitives LOCKED THEM OUT.
The Smyrnaeans were
scattered among other groups.

We know of new wineskiners who pulled this trick in Seattle.

Heredotus also notes that: The Babylonians, encamped without their walls, awaited his coming. A battle was fought at a short distance from the city, in which the Babylonians were defeated by the Persian king,

whereupon they withdrew within their defences.
Here they shut themselves up, and
made light of his siege, having laid in a store of provisions for many years in preparation against this attack;

for when they saw Cyrus conquering nation after nation, they were convinced that he would never stop, and that their turn would come at last.

Cyrus was now reduced to great perplexity, as time went on and he made no progress against the place. In this distress either some one made the suggestion to him, or he bethought himself of a plan, which he proceeded to put in execution.

He placed a portion of his army at the point where the river enters the city,
and another body at the back of the place where it
issues forth,

with orders to march into the town by the bed of the stream, as soon as the water became shallow enough:

[Cuttting of the "water" supply is symbolic of cutting off the Words of Christ. See the Odes of Solomon
And the
Odes of Solomon falsely used to defend instrumental music.
And how this is replaced by a
New Wineskin and comments by Jesus]

he then himself drew off with the unwarlike portion of his host, and made for the place where Nitocris dug the basin for the river, where he did exactly what she had done formerly:

he turned the Euphrates [the water of the word] by a canal into the basin, which was then a marsh, on which the river sank to such an extent that the natural bed of the stream became fordable.

Hereupon the Persians who had been left for the purpose at Babylon by the, river-side, entered the stream, which had now sunk so as to reach about midway up a man's thigh, and thus got into the town.

Had the Babylonians been apprised of what Cyrus was about, or had they noticed their danger, they would never have allowed the Persians to enter the city,
but would have destroyed them utterly; for they would have
made fast all the street-gates which gave upon the river,

and mounting upon the walls along both sides of the stream,
would so have caught the enemy, as it were,
in a trap.

But, as it was, the Persians came upon them by surprise and so took the city. Owing to the vast size of the place, the inhabitants of the central parts (as the residents at Babylon declare) long after the outer portions of the town were taken,

knew nothing of what had chanced,
but as they were
engaged in a festival, continued dancing and revelling until they learnt the capture but too certainly. Such, then, were the circumstances of the first taking of Babylon.

Parciy (h6542) par-see'; patrial from 6536; a Parsite I. e. Persian), or inhab. of Peres: - Persian.

Persian is derived from Parac (h6536) paw-ras'; a prim. root; to break in pieces, i. e. (usually without violence) to split, distribute: - deal, divide, have hoofs, part, tear.

In First Maccabees

From them came forth a sinful root, Antiochus Epiphanes, son of Antiochus the king; he had been a hostage in Rome. He began to reign in the one hundred and thirty-seventh year of the kingdom of the Greeks. 1 Macc 1:10 -

In those days lawless men came forth from Israel, and misled many, saying, "Let us go and make a covenant with the Gentiles round about us, for since we separated from them many evils have come upon us." 1 Macc 1: 11 -
........... This proposal pleased them, 1 Macc 1: 12 -
and some of the people eagerly went to the king. He
authorized them to observe the ordinances of the Gentiles. 1 Macc 1: 13 -

So they built a gymnasium in Jerusalem, according to Gentile custom, 1 Macc 1: 14 -

and removed the marks of circumcision, and abandoned the holy covenant. They joined with the Gentiles and sold themselves to do evil. 1 Macc 1: 15 -

He plundered the city, burned it with fire, and tore down its houses and its surrounding walls. 1 Macc 1:31 -

But the sons of Jambri from Medeba came out and seized John and all that he had, and departed with it. 1 Macc 9:36 -
After these things it was reported to Jonathan and Simon his brother,

"The sons of Jambri are celebrating a great wedding, and are conducting the bride, a daughter of one of the great nobles of Canaan, from Nadabath with a large escort." 1 Macc 9: 37 -

And they remembered the blood of John their brother, and went up and hid under cover of the mountain. 1 Macc 9: 38 -
They raised their eyes and looked,

and saw a tumultuous procession with much baggage; and the bridegroom came out with his friends and his brothers
........... to meet them with tambourines and musicians and many weapons. 1 Macc 9: 39 -

Then they rushed upon them from the ambush and began killing them. Many were wounded and fell, and the rest fled to the mountain; and they took all their goods. 1 Macc 9: 40 -

Thus the wedding was turned into mourning and the voice of their musicians into a funeral dirge. 1 Macc 9: 41 -

To better understand some of the views of Mike Cope -- which would get him fired from most denominational churches -- Click to Read E. Claude Gardner

Was Mary another sexually questionable woman?

Sorry! But, like instrumental music, as men break down the walls, the evidence against it mounts and mounts and mounts as music grows and -- totally consistent -- male leadership wants to break down more walls. So, consider what follows as a repository of God and men speaking against breaking down the walls which God has constructed.

The Coonie was a Rock Hare

Read another version

Our commentary in Blue:

Cope begins:

"Something there is that doesn,t love a wall, wrote Robert Frost. It seemed to him that something in nature voted "NO to the erection of dividing walls.

He could observe the way, every year, the ground would swell so the carefully stacked rocks tumbled over:

Something there is that doesn't love a wall
That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it,
And spills the upper boulders in the sun,
And makes gaps even two can pass abreast..

The problem was that his neighbor, following an old proverb of his father, believed that "good fences make good neighbors. They make sure boundaries are clearly defined. No amount of reasoning and experience could convince him otherwise.

The view that NOT using instrumental music and NOT participating with those who use DOGMA and not DOCTRINE is that our TRADITIONALISM is a vile disease we caught from out parents.  The fact is that from Genesis to Revelation, all of the church fathers and founders of denominations the use of MACHINES for doing hard work was rejected because it amounted to going effeminate just when Jesus comes to be our only teacher.

It was his wall, his choice, wasn't it?

Now, for the true context:

Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it
And spills the upper boulder in the sun,
And make gaps even two can pass abreast.
The work of hunters is another thing:
I have come after them and made repair
Where they have left not one stone on a stone,
But they would have the rabbit out of hiding,
To please the yelping dogs. The gaps I mean,
No one has seen them made or heard them made,
But at spring mending-time we find them there,

In the rush for "topics" the order of truth often gets turned on its head perhaps without knowing that without fidelity to anyone's word there simply is no "point." Robert Frost is usually beyond the immediate reach of those demanded to "test the spirits" but not beyond the reach of God Who listens carefully as much to what we say as what we do.

Robert Frost didn't leave the hunters out:

"But they would have the rabbit out of hiding, To please the yelping dogs."
And his motive against the wall-defending neighbor was pure
mischief! Is there a message here? If we use Biblical and historical figurative speech we can hear the message loud and clear:

Why have walls, Frosts teases us, when men break down the walls just to expose the rabbit (the unclean) just for the joy of the yelping dogs (the perverse).

Looking for proof-texts from Robert Frost rather than Lord Jesus gives us the authority -- the demand -- to allegorize Frost to show how closely his "parable" describes the post-modern (post-Bible, post-Paul) motives for breaking down the walls: just to please the unclean, the yelping dogs, and too often just for mischief. While this undoubtedly was not the intent, figurative speech can get you into a heap of trouble.

Accepting the challenge of Frost as authority to "break down the walls" we certainly do not intend to indict anyone, but satisfying and breaking down the walls and "yelping dogs" to get at the rabbits is too rich to pass up for any one who knows "Bible and Broken Walls 101aaa":

The yelping dogs and concision Paul warned about were the Cynics whose howling form of praise singing attracted customers: they sought to get INSIDE the worship process seeking whom they might devour (double meaning). The concision were the emasculated priests of Cybele or the mother goddess.

Organum used with: cymbălum I. Prop., an instrument consisting of two hollow plates of brass, which emit a ringing sound when struck together. They were used in the festivals of Cybele and Bacchus, and on other festive occasions; also to hinder the flight of bees

Catullus, Carmina 63
Thy timbrel, Mother Cybele, the firstings of thy rite,
And as her tender finger-tips on bull-back hollow rang
She rose a-grieving and her song to listening comrades sang.
"Up Gallae, hie together, haste for Cybele's deep grove,
Hie to the Dindymnean dame, ye flocks that love to rove;
Musical performers in the worship of the Mother of Harlots (Rev 17-18) were emasculated (in Paul's words) and even had their sex changed.

Galli or Click Here    

Singular GALLUS, priests, often temple attendants or wandering mendicants, of the ancient Asiatic deity, the Great Mother of the Gods, known as Cybele, or Agdistis, in Greek and Latin literature. The galli were eunuchs attired in female garb, with long hair fragrant with ointment.


Rev. 18:14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all. 

Together with priestesses, they celebrated the Great Mother's rites with wild music and dancing until their frenzied excitement found its culmination in self-scourging, self-laceration, or exhaustion. Self-emasculation by candidates for the priesthood sometimes accompanied this delirium of worship.

Rev. 18:22 And the voice [noise, phaino to shine] of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
Rev. 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

The name galli may be Phrygian, from the two streams called Gallus, both tributaries of the Sangarius (now Sakarya) River, the waters of which were said to inspire religious frenzy.

Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 1 Co.11:14

but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. 1 Cor 11:15

The Hunter:

Of Nimrod:

He was a mighty hunter before the LORD; that is why it is said, "Like Nimrod, a mighty hunter before (against) the LORD." Genesis 10:9

Nimrod believed that he could regenerate through external means. And, he had a band of female musicians making his path straight. Nimrod was the traditional builder of the tower of Babel. He collected all of the people's animals and put them into his own walls where he could sell them.

Click to see Music and the worship in Babylon by priests, soothsayers, prophetesses and prostitutes (male and female).

Click to see Nimrod and His Female Musical Worship Teams

The boys grew up, and Esau became a skillful hunter, a man of the open country,
while Jacob was a quiet man, staying among the tents. Ge.25:27

Free yourself, like a gazelle from the hand of the hunter, like a bird from the snare of the fowler. Pr.6:5

Hunters in Hebrew:

Cayid (h6718) tsah'-yid; from a form of 6679 and mean. the same; the chase; also game (thus taken); (gen.) lunch (espec. for a journey): - catcheth, food, * hunter, (that which he took in) hunting, venison, victuals.

Cuwd (h6679) tsood; a prim. root; to lie alongside (i. e. in wait); by impl. to catch an animal (figurative: men); (denom. from. 6718) to victual (for a journey): - chase, hunt, sore, take (provision).

And whatsoever man there be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, which hunteth and catcheth any beast or fowl that may be eaten; he shall even pour out the blood thereof, and cover it with dust. Lev 17:13

For by means of a whorish woman a man is brought to a piece of bread: and the adultress will hunt for the precious life. Proverb 6:26

Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the Lord, and they shall fish them; and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the rocks. Jeremiah 16:16

For mine eyes are upon all their ways: they are not hid from my face, neither is their iniquity hid from mine eyes. Jeremiah 16:17

I will repay them double for their wickedness and their sin, because they have defiled my land with the lifeless forms of their vile images and have filled my inheritance with their detestable idols." Jeremiah 16:18

Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms,

and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly. Eze.13:20

Click to see the Pagan Practice of Growing Wings. Lucian of Samosata wrote of Lucian the Oracle Monger and his Seeker Center much like that of Apollo (Apollyon, Abbadon) at Delphi.

A lifeless form or a carcass in the form of a vile image image has a clear musical connection much like the "empty wineskin" of the witch of Endor:

Nebelah (h5038) neb-ay-law'; from 5034; a flabby thing, i. e. a carcase or carrion (human or bestial, often collect.); fig. an idol: - (dead) body, (dead) carcase, dead of itself, which died, (beast) that (which) dieth of itself.

Nebel (h5035) neh'-bel; from 5034; a skin- bag for liquids (from collapsing when empty); hence a vase (as similar in shape when full); also a lyre (as having a body of like form): - bottle, pitcher, psaltery, vessel, viol

Nabel (h5034) naw-bale'; a prim. root; to wilt; gen. to fall away, fail, faint; fig. to be foolish or (mor.) wicked; causat. to despise, disgrace: - disgrace, dishonour, lightly esteem, fade (away, - ing), fall (down, -ling, off), do foolishly, come to nought, * surely, make vile, wither..

Even in the case of lifeless things (inanimate, without breath, mechanical) that make sounds, such as the flute or harp, how will anyone know what tune is being played unless there is a distinction in the notes? 1 Corinthians 14:7NIV

The rabbit or hare was a ceremonially unclean animal (Deut 14:7; Lev 11:6)

Even today we hear news of pretty bunnies spreading a deadly disease so that gardners have to wear a face mask just to mow the lawn! Of course, the rabbit is famous for its sexual power.

"Rabbits are of considerable economic importance. They form the bulk of the diet of many animal predators, and they are the most widely hunted small game (by humans) wherever they occur.

They can also carry and transmit to humans such diseases as tularemia (acute infectious disease resembling plague), or rabbit fever, however, and in some areas they become serious pests, destroying crops or grazing lands (Britannica)

"Whether they were the Burmese boy-priests of the temples, as also found in Ceylon, Malaysia, Japan, and among the mainland Chinese Buddhist monks, they were the educators and keepers of the sacred flame of "neitherness." The Fujian Province of old China worshipped a patron rabbit god of homosexuality similar to the North American trickster, HARE, and they maintained organized cult activities in the service of same-sex religion. Japanese mythology suggests that the great cultural hero Kobo Daishi, founder of the Singon sect of Buddhism, was himself a queer."

Jude quotes Enoch to warn that God will come with ten thousand of His saints to execute judgment. The primary sin was ignoring His Word. The result was that Satan was able to "break down the walls" by mixed-sex choirs and instrumental music. When the holy Sethites had been called down from their safety there was a general homosexual attack: Satan is ambidextrous.

In the Book of Enoch chapter 96 Enoch writes about coneys or rabbits who always have to run from the "sirens"--

1 Be hopeful, ye righteous; for suddenly shall the sinners perish before you,
And ye shall have lordship over them according to your desires.
2 And in the day of the tribulation of the sinners,
Your children shall mount and rise as eagles,
And higher than the vultures will be your nest,
And ye shall ascend and enter the crevices of the earth,
And the clefts of the rock for ever as coneys (rabbits) before the unrighteous,
And the sirens shall sigh because of you-and weep

3 Wherefore fear not, ye that have suffered;

For healing shall be your portion,
And a bright light shall enlighten you,
And the voice of rest ye shall hear from heaven.

4 Woe unto you, ye sinners, for your riches make you appear like the righteous,

But your hearts convict you of being sinners,
And this fact shall be a testimony against you for a memorial of (your) evil deeds.

5 Woe to you who devour the finest of the wheat,

And drink wine in large bowls,
And tread under foot the lowly with your might.

6 Woe to you who drink water from every fountain,

For suddenly shall ye be consumed and wither away,
Because ye have forsaken the fountain of life.

Adam Clark Amos Chapter 5, Verse 5. And invent to themselves instruments of music, like David] See the note on 1 Chron. xxiii. 5; and see especially the note on 2 Chron. xxix. 25.

I believe that David was not authorized by the Lord to introduce that multitude of musical instruments into the Divine worship of which we read,

and I am satisfied that his conduct in this respect is most solemnly reprehended by this prophet;
and I farther believe that the use of such instruments of music, in the Christian Church,
 is without the sanction and against the will of God;
that they are subversive of the spirit of true devotion, and that they are sinful.

If there was a woe to them who invented instruments of music, as did David under the law, is there no wo, no curse to them who invent them, and introduce them into the worship of God in the Christian Church?

In Chapter Two Enoch wrote:

2:1 And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones
To execute judgement upon all,
And to destroy all the ungodly:
And to convict all flesh
Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed,
And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.

In Chapter seven we understand that what was taught was taught by those the Bible calls "Jabal, Jubal, Tubal-Cain and Naamah."

God will come with ten thousand of His saints and the specific charges are:

Ignoring the Word of God because Satan taught them
.....About the power of musical instruments, mixed-sex choirs and wine.

A primary sin was caused by:
..... Abortionists. [This was to terminate religious pregnancies]

The Second Book of Adam and Eve is more explicit. You need to read this by Clicking Here.

"It was the Cainite's punishment to have a hundred daughters borne them for each son; and this led to such husband-hunger that their women began to raid houses and carry off men. One day it pleased them to seduce them Sethites, after daubing their faces with rouge and powder, their eyes with antimony, and the soles of their feet with scarlet, dyeing their hair, putting on golden earrings, golden anklets, bracelets, and many-colored garments.

In their ascent of the holy mountain, they twanged harps, blew trumpets, beat drums, sang, danced, clapped hands; then, having addressed the five hundred and twenty anchorites in cheerful voices,
........... each caught hold of her victim and seduced him.

These Sethites, after once succumbing to the Cainite women's blandishments,
..... became more unclean than dogs, and utterly forgot God's laws.

Even the "Sons of Judges" now corrupted the daughters of the poor. Whenever a bride was beautified for the bridegroom, one such would enter the nuptial chamber and enjoy her first.

Although Genun's name suggests "Kenan," who appears in Genesis 5:9 as the son of Enoch, he is a composite Kenite character: the invention of musical instruments being attributed in Genesis to Jubal, and of edged iron blades to his brother Tubal Cain.

Genun (Jubal = yobel or trumpet = Jubilee) was said to occupy "the Land of the Slime Pits," namely the southern shores of the Dead Sea (Genesis 14:10), because the evil city of Sodom stood there

Genun the Canaanite, son of Lamech the Blind, living in the Land of the Slime Pits,

was ruled by Azael from his earliest youth,
invented all sorts of musical instruments.

When he played these, Azael entered into them too, so that they gave forth seductive tunes entrancing the hearts of all listeners.

Genun would assemble companies of musicians, who inflamed one another with music until their lust burned bright like fire, and they lay together promiscuously.

He also brewed beer, gathered great crowds in taverns, gave them to drink, and taught them to forge iron swords and spear-points, with which to do murder at random when they were drunk.

For their vine is of the vine of Sodom, and of the fields of Gomorrah: their grapes are grapes of gall (poppy), their clusters are bitter: Deut 32:32

[Music-produced endorphins are morphine-like. Music is one of the most powerful and addictive efforts of mankind]

Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, and Uriel told God that such wickedness had never before flourished on earth.

God then sent Raphael to bind Azael hand and foot, heaping jagged rocks over him in the dark Cave of Dudael, where he now abides until the Last Days. (Site of the later cult of Pan, the homosexual pipe player. )

Gabriel destroyed the Fallen Ones by inciting them to civil war. Michael chained Shemhazai and his fellows in other dark caves for seventy generations.

Uriel became the messenger of salvation who visited Noah.

Orpheus Philosophy or Wisdom rejects the Musical Muses

Boethius For if you recall your true native country, you know that it is not under the rule of the many-headed people, as was Athens of old, (Pagan Muses) but there is one Lord, one King, who rejoices in the greater number of his subjects, not in their banishment.

To be guided by his reins, to bow to his justice, is the highest liberty.
Know you not that sacred and ancient
law of your own state by which it is enacted that no man,

who would establish a dwelling-place for himself therein, may lawfully be put forth?
For there is no fear that any man should merit exile,
if he be kept safe therein by its protecting walls.

But any man that may no longer wish to dwell there,
does equally no longer deserve to be there.

Boethius in "The Consolation of Phylosophy" (as opposed of the Muses) stated that:

Plato in the Timoeus says,' The language must also be akin to the subjects of which its words are the interpreters' the chains of matter and of earth.

The singer of Thrace (Orpheus) in olden time lamented his dead wife:
..... by his tearful strains he made the trees to follow him, and bound the flowing streams to stay:

for him the hind would fearlessly go side by side with fiercest lions, and
..... the hare would look upon the hound (guardian dogs of hell),
..... nor be afraid, for he was gentle under the song's sway.

Another fierce man is always working his restless tongue at lawsuits, and you will compare him to a hound.

[The three headed dog Cerberus was associated with Apis worshiped by Israel at Mount Sinai in the form of the golden calf and with play. Play is "singing, naked dancing, playing instruments and drinking wine. They forced Samson into this play which was sodomy before he pulled down their temple. Also, David "played before the Ark" with naked dance and instrumental music.]

1. Munich 1493: Archaic; Attic Black Figure; Neck amphora; Scenes in Hades. Side A: Herakles and Kerberus. Side B: Sisyphos and small winged figures (amyetoi) pouring water into a leaky pithos. [Vase] (2.11)

Three-headed dog: This is a Greek mythology reference to CerberusÐa monstrous dog with three or 50 heads and a mane or tail of snakes who guarded the entrance to the Underworld.

Syea, we have been forsaken in the wilderness to gather grapes of thorns and figs of thistles!: From the Bible, Matthew 7:15-20. "(v. 15) Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. (v. 16) You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes, nor figs from thistles, are they? (v. 17) Even so, every good tree bears good fruit; but the bad tree bears bad fruit. (v. 18)A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. (v. 19)Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. (v. 20) So then, you will know them by their fruits."

The worship among ALL priesthoods is likely to be perverted. Those who were dogs were male homosexuals where sodomy was thought to "bind the flesh and spirit together" recorded of Jezebel.

Beware of dogs, beware of evil (noisome) workers (teachers), beware of the concision. Phil 3:2

However, Jesus disqualified TIME and PLACE of both Samaritans and Jews. He said that because God IS Spirit we must worship in the new PLACE of our human spirit as we give heed to the Words of Truth. This is Paul's unique definition of WORSHIP and never explains what appeals to the flesh as worship: it cannot be.

For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. Phil 3:3

John could have been involved with the perverted worship on Patmos influenced by Circe the holy whore with music and drugs. However, in order for Christ the Spirit to speak to Him "John was IN THE SPIRIT" on the Lord's Day.

All musical "worship" used prostitutes and catamites or male homosexuals.

"After the twelfth labour which, as you know, was the capture of the three-headed dog of the Underworld, Cerberus, King Eurystheus became overbold. If Heracles had got the better of the God Hades, why should he not now try with Zeus himself. So he called Heracles to him and said, 'This is your final task. Go and get for me Ganymede, Cup-Bearer of the Gods and the most beautiful youth that ever lived, for I want to try the pleasures of such a divine creature myself.'"

He is also associated with the serpent. The constellation of Cerberus has its origins with the astronomer Johannes Hevelius, who placed it on his star atlas Firmamentum Sobiescianum. Most representations of the constellation have it appearing as a three-headed serpent instead of a dog.

But when the hotter flame burnt up his inmost soul,
..... even the strains, which had subdued all other things,
..... could not soothe their own lord's mind.

Complaining of the hard hearts of the gods above,
..... he dared approach the realms below.

There he tuned his songs to soothing tones, and sang the lays he had drawn from his mother's fount of excellence.

His unrestrained grief did give him power, his love redoubled his grief's power:
his mourning
moved the depths of hell. With gentlest prayers he prayed to the lords of the shades for grace.

The three-headed porter was taken captive with amazement at his fresh songs. The avenging goddesses, who haunt with fear the guilty, poured out sad tears. Ixion's wheel no longer swiftly turned. Tantalus, so long abandoned unto thirst then despise the flowing stream.

Tantalus for his crimes was condemned to perpetual hunger and thirst though surrounded by fruits and water which ever eluded his grasp. The vulture, satisfied by his strains, tore not awhile at Tityos's heart. At last the lord of the shades in pity cried: "We are conquered; take your bride with you, bought by your song; but one condition binds our gift: till she has left these dark abodes, turn not your eyes upon her." Who shall set a law to lovers? Love is a greater law unto itself.

Alack! at the very bounds of darkness Orpheus looked upon his Eurydice; looked, and lost her, and was lost himself.

'To you too this tale refers; you, who seek to lead your thoughts to the light above. For whosoever is overcome of desire, and turns his gaze upon the darkness 'neath the earth, he, while he looks on hell, loses the prize he carried off.'

Orpheus praised Ceres as "Eve" or "ZOE" or "the mother of the gods" a Lucifer figure and they called her "the beast."

Now Rhea, as Ceres, in Hymn XIV, is called 'brass-sounding' and

'drum-beating'. This has reference to the mystical results of certain sounds and rhythm,
part and parcel of what the Hindus call Mantravidyâ.

I remember reading a curious old French book in the Bibliothèque de la Ville of Clermont-Ferrand, one of the books confiscated from the Minime Monastery of the same town, at the time of the Revolution. This work dealt with the magical properties of music, and described for what especial purposes the various instruments of music were used in the Temple-service of the Jews.

"Now Iamblichus (De Mysteriis, III.ix) goes into the matter of the so-called Corybantic and Bacchic 'frenzies' produced by musical instruments in the Mysteries of Ceres and Bacchus; and in his Life of Pythagoras (xxv) he, further, tells us that: 'The whole Pythagoric school went through a course of musical training, both in harmony and touch, whereby, by means of appropriate chants, they beneficially converted the dispositions of the soul to contrary emotions.

Music and Mantras, therefore, were used by the Orphics to attract, or call
, the influence of the Mother of the Gods, who at the same time was the
'Store-house of Life', of Divine Nature. Thus Proclus.

The problem in Rome described by Paul in Romans 14 was the Orphic, Vegetarian instrumental music sect influence trying to assemble with Dionysic, meat-eating, wine-drinking worshipers with instrumental music.

To allow "non-sectarian" worship without instruments, in Romans 15 Paul restated the Ephesian5 and Colossian 3 "speaking" which is not a primary singing command:

WE then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities (diseased scruple) of the weak, and not to please ourselves. Romans 15:1

Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification. Romans 15:2
even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me. Romans 15:3

For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. Romans 15:4

Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus: Romans 15:5

That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 15:6

The Yelping Dogs:

Of Jesus it was prophesied:

By this I know that thou favourest me, because mine enemy doth not triumph over me. Ps.41:11

The Dead Sea Scroll translation of Psalm 41 For Thou, O God, hast sheltered me
from the children of men
And hast hidden Thy Law within me
against the time when Thou shoudst
reveal Thy salvation to me. (Isaiah 11:1-3)
All who have eaten my bread
have lifted their heel against me (cf John 13:18)
And all those joined to my Council
have mocked me with wicked lips. (Children piping and chiding.)
Thy members of my Covenant have rebelled
and have murmured round about me;
They have gone as talebearers
before the children of mischief
concerning the mystery which Thou hast hidden in me...
They have overtaken me in a narrow pass (gap) without escape
And there is no rest for me in my trial.
They sound my censure upon a harp
and their murmuring and storming upon a zither." Ps.41:11

[Now as for you, take courage and stand in the gap, do not fear when God strengthens . . . ] 17-20 [ . . ] Col. 17 land He shall appoint their retribution with burning

When the priests go out into the gap between the battle lines, 
seven Levites shall go out with them. In their hands shall be seven trumpets of rams' horns.
Three officers from among the Levites shall walk before the priests and the Levites.
Then the priests shall blow on the six trumpets of the slain a sharp staccato note to direct the battle,
and the Levites and all the people with rams' horns shall blow a great battle alarm together in order to melt the heart of the enemy.
I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels. Psa 22:14
Nevertheless, In Victory:
I will groan with the zither of lamentation
in all grief-stricken mourning and bitter complaint
until iniquity and wickedness are consumed
and the disease-bringing scourge is no more.
An evil disease, say they, cleaveth fast unto him: and now that he lieth he shall rise up no more. Ps.41:8
Then will I play on the zither of deliverance
and harp of joy,
on the tabors of prayer and the pipe of praise
without end.
This was spoken of Judas where triumph was to "blow the wind instruments and make a joyful noise." The enemies piped to try to get Jesus into the feminine or effeminate dance of Dionysus (i.e. Pan). Dionysus was the "new wine in new wineskins god." The "bag" Judas put the stolen money into was "a bag for carrying the mouthpieces of wind instruments." Like most priesthoods, the one in Jerusalem in the days of Jesus was afflicted and inflicted with a large homosexual component. Therefore, in the Psalm:

For dogs have compassed (whirled around) me: the assembly (family or crowd) of the wicked have inclosed (surrounded to strike) me: they pierced my hands and my feet. Ps.22:16

Of compassed or danced around: Thou art filled with shame for glory: drink thou also, and let thy foreskin be uncovered: the cup of the Lords right hand shall be turned unto thee, and shameful spewing shall be on thy glory. Hab.2:16

Deliver my life from the sword, my precious life from the power of the dogs. Ps.22:20

Psalm 22 shows how the musical guys would attack Jesus in a perverted sense.


Sachaq (h7832) saw-khak'; a prim. root; to laugh (in pleasure or detraction); by impl. to play: - deride, have in derision, laugh, make merry, mock (-er), play, rejoice, (laugh to) scorn, be in (make) sport.

The Play at Mount Sinai was musical idolatry (h6711). This was also the SPORT they demanded of Samson. When Samson MADE SPORT the word is (h7832)

And it came to pass, when their hearts were merry, that they said, Call for Samson, that he may make us sport (h7832). And they called for Samson out of the prison house; and he made them sport (h6711): and they set him between the pillars. Judges 16:25

Cachaq (h6711) tsaw-khak'; a prim. root; to laugh outright (in merriment or scorn); by impl. to sport: - laugh, mock, play, make sport.

And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play (h6711). Exod 32:6

Shachaq (h7833) shaw-khak'; a prim. root; to comminate (by trituration or attrition): - beat, wear.

Israel's watchmen are blind, they all lack knowledge; they are all mute dogs (Keleb male prostitutes), they cannot bark; they lie (The sexual connection) around and dream, they love to sleep. Is.56:10 (Mute: Like tongue-tied male prostitutes)

Yea, they are greedy (sensuous) dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter. Is.56:11

Then the LORD said to me: "Even if Moses and Samuel were to stand before me, my heart would not go out to this people.

Send them away from my presence! Let them go! Je 15:1

And if they ask you, 'Where shall we go?' tell them, 'This is what the LORD says: "'Those destined for death, to death; those for the sword, to the sword; those for starvation, to starvation; those for captivity, to captivity.' Je 15:2

And I will appoint over them four kinds, saith the Lord: the sword to slay, and the dogs to tear, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the earth, to devour and destroy. Je.15:3

The dogs in Hebrew were:

Keleb (h3611) keh'leb; from an unused root mean. to yelp, or else to attack; a dog;
..... hence (by euphemism) a male prostitute: - dog.

In the New Testament, the word "soft" describes them:

But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings houses. Matthew 11:8

Soft is from the Greek:

Malakos (g3120) mal-ak-os'; of uncert. affin.; soft, i.e. fine (clothing); fig. a catamite (male prostitute): - effeminate, soft. (g3119 means soft or diseased)

The "choral" dance was performed by the women worshipers of Dionysus or effeminate men. If they could get Jesus and John to dance when they piped this would prove that He was not Yahweh's presence:

"Asherah: She is the Queen of Heaven, in other languages and ages identified as Ashtoreth, Athirat, Astarte, and Ishtar.

Her "male" priestesses were known as kelabim, the faithful "dogs" of the Goddess, who practiced divinatory arts, danced in processions, and served as hierodules, qedeshim (prostitutes or concubines), in the company of other priestesses.

Elements of the goddess worship were largely erased in a cultural purge c. 630 BCE by King Josiah, at the behest of Yahweh's priests, who required supremacy."

"What wedding-hymn was that which raised its strains to the sound of Libyan flutes, to the music of the dancer's lyre, and the note of the pipe of reeds? It was on the day Pieria's lovely-haired choir came over the slopes of Pelion to the wedding of Peleus, beating the ground with print of golden sandals at the banquet of the gods, and hymning in dulcet strains the praise of Thetis and the son of Aeacus, over the Centaurs' hill, down woods of Pelion.

"There was the Dardanian boy, dainty morsel of Zeus' bed, drawing off the wine he mixed in the depths of golden bowls, Ganymede the Phrygian; while, along the gleaming sand, the fifty daughters of Nereus graced the marriage with their dancing, circling in a mazy ring. Euripides

Greek GANYMEDES, Latin GANYMEDES, OR CATAMITUS, in Greek legend, the son of Tros (or Laomedon), king of Troy. Because of his unusual beauty, he was carried off either by the gods or by Zeus, disguised as an eagle, or, according to a Cretan account, by Minos, to serve as cupbearer. In compensation, Zeus gave Ganymede's father a stud of immortal horses (or a golden vine). From early times it was believed that Ganymede's kidnapper had a homosexual passion for him, hence the term catamite, derived from the popular Latin form of his name. He was later identified with the constellation Aquarius.

"In astrology, Aquarius is the 11th sign of the zodiac, considered as governing the period c. January 20-c. February 18. "Its representation as a man pouring a stream of water out of a jug came about,

"it has been suggested, because in ancient times the rising of Aquarius coincided in the Middle East with a period of floods and rain. In the conceptual scheme of the "Great Year"--the more than 25,000 years it takes the Earth to pass in turn through the influence of each of the signs of the zodiac--
........... the Earth is said to have passed into the age of Aquarius early in the 19th century.

Is it an accident that in the nineteenth century the Word of God was minimized and the clear Biblical male-female order was reversed, and what Leonard Allen identified mudied stream of trinitarian dogma was introduced and identified by Paul Tillich as heresy. Read more about the Mission Church.

The pure water often turns to wine:

"Upon hearing that Ganymede was to be cup bearer as well as Zeus' lover, the infinitely jealous Hera was outraged. Therefor Zeus set Ganymede's image among the stars as the constellation Aquarius, the water carrier. Aquarius was originally the Egyptian god over the Nile. The Egyptian god poured water not wine from a flagon.

"All of Zeus' scandalous liaisons have allegorical meanings. Zeus' torrid affair with Ganymede was a religious justification for homosexuality within the Greek culture. Before the popularity of the Zeus and Ganymede myth spread, the only toleration for sodomy was an external form of goddess worship. Cybele's male devotees tried to achieve unity with her by castrating themselves and dressing like women.

"While Platonic love needed women for regeneration purposes (grow the attendance)
..... the philosopher used this myth to justify his sexual feelings towards his all male pupils.

All of this is simply to prove that when you break down the walls you do not know what is going to stray in. This is why Jesus said:

Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life,

and may enter in through the gates into the city. Rev 22:14
without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. Rev 22: 15

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. Rev 22: 16

And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Rev 22: 17

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: Rev 22: 18
........... And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
........... ........... God shall take away his part out of the book of life,
........... ........... and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Rev 22: 19

Again, the message of Robert Frost is that the walls just get broken down by frost and by rabbit hunters who will pull apart the building stones just in order to satisfy the appetite of their yelping dogs.

The rabbit and the yelping dogs and the hunter who tore down Robert Frost's walls were mighty hunters, hunting unclean animals just to satisfy the yelping dogs. No wonder Robert wondered why the wall had been built.

The Babylonian clergy consisted of priests, musicians, soothsayers and male and female prostitutes.

Bishop Alexander Hislop notes:

Of the Great Mother Semiramis: "It was from the son, however, that she derived all her glory and her claims to deification. That son, though represented as a child in his mother's arms, was a person of great stature and immense bodily powers, as well as most fascinating manners.

In Scripture he is referred to (Eze 8:14) under the name of Tammuz, but he is commonly known among classical writers under the name of Bacchus, that is, "The Lamented one." *

*From Bakhah "to weep" or "lament." Among the Phoenicians, says Hesychius, "Bacchos means weeping." As the women wept for Tammuz, so did they for Bacchus. They tried to force Jesus into this dance.

To the ordinary reader the name of Bacchus suggests

nothing more than revelry and drunkenness,
but it is now well known, that amid all the
abominations that attended his orgies,

their grand design was professedly "the purification of souls,"
and that from the guilt and defilement of sin.

Herodotus mentions that

"when in Egypt, he was astonished to hear the very same mournful but ravishing "Song of Linus," sung by the Egyptians (although under another name), which he had been accustomed to hear in his own native land of Greece.

Linus was the same god as the Bacchus of Greece, or Osiris of Egypt;

for Homer introduces a boy singing the song of Linus, while the vintage is going on (Ilias), and the Scholiast says that this son was sung in memory of Linus,

who was torn in pieces by dogs.

The epithet "dogs," applied to those who tore Linus in pieces, is evidently used in a mystical sense, and it will afterwards been seen how thoroughly the other name by which he is known--Narcissus--identifies him with the Greek Bacchus and Egyptian Osiris.

When the Israelites "rose up to play" it was the musical idolatry honoring Osiris under the image of the golden bull. And again, David rose up to play when separating the Ark of the Covenant from God's sacred place.

Narcissus: in Greek mythology, the son of the river god Cephissus and the nymph Leiriope; he was distinguished for his beauty. His mother was told that he would have a long life, provided he never looked upon his own features. His rejection, however, of the love of the nymph Echo or of his lover Ameinias drew upon him the vengeance of the gods. He fell in love with his own reflection in the waters of a spring and pined away (or killed himself); the flower that bears his name sprang up where he died. According to another source, Narcissus, to console himself for the death of his beloved twin sister, his exact counterpart, sat gazing into the spring to recall her features.

The story may have derived from the ancient Greek superstition that it was unlucky or even fatal to see one's own reflection. In psychiatry and especially psychoanalysis, the term narcissism denotes an excessive degree of self-esteem or self-involvement, a condition that is usually a form of emotional immaturity.

A similar figure: Hermes leading a satyr chorus, vase by Douris, 5th century BC; in the British Museum: Greek god, son of Zeus and Maia; often identified with the Roman Mercury and with Casmilus or Cadmilus, one of the Cabeiri. His name is probably derived from herma (see herm), the Greek word for a heap of stones, such as was used in the country to indicate boundaries or as a landmark. The earliest centre of his cult was probably Arcadia, where Mt. Cyllene was reputed to be his birthplace. There he was especially worshipped as the god of fertility, and his images were ithyphallic.

In many respects he was Apollo's counterpart; like him, Hermes was a patron of music and was credited with the invention of the kithara and sometimes of music itself. He was also god of eloquence and presided over some kinds of popular divination. (Leading people into the presence of God)

From the latter part of the 5th century BC he was portrayed as a nude and beardless youth, a young athlete. As Mercury, he is naked and carrying a purse.

The purse of Judas was "for carrying the mouthpieces of wind instruments."

In some places in Egypt, for the song of Linus or Osiris, a peculiar melody seems to have been used. Savary says that, in the temple of Abydos, "the priest repeated the seven vowels in the form of hymns, and that musicians were forbid to enter it." (Letters) Strabo, whom Savary refers to, calls the god of that temple Memnon, but we learn from Wilkinson that Osiris was the great god of Abydos, whence it is evident that Memnon and Osiris were only different names of the same divinity.

Now the name of Linus or Osiris, as the "husband of his mother," in Egypt, was Kamut (BUNSEN). When Gregory the Great introduced into the Church of Rome what are now called the Gregorian Chants,

he got them from the Chaldean mysteries, which had long been established in Rome;

for the Roman Catholic priest, Eustace, admits that these chants were largely composed of "Lydian and Phrygian tunes" (Classical Tour), Lydia and Phrygia being among the chief seats in later times of those mysteries, of which the Egyptian mysteries were only a branch. (i.e. Barbarians)

These tunes were sacred--the music of the great god, and in introducing them Gregory introduced the music of Kamut. And thus, to all appearance, has it come to pass, that the name of Osiris or Kamut, "the husband of the mother," is in every-day use among ourselves as the name of the musical scale; for what is the melody of Osiris, consisting of the "seven vowels" formed into a hymn, but--the Gamut.

Mike Cope: Part of the unsettledness in Restoration churches right now is that old walls are slowly (and in some instances, rapidly) crumbling walls that divide one group of Christians from other groups, walls that divide us by gender, by race, or by mental abilities.:

Historical walls have been build by sectarians adding instrumental music and other practices from Catholicism including a "Christendom-wide" organization with more ambition than common sense. 

False! Wishful thinking! The unsettledness is caused by a band of merry men dedicated to the restructure of churches of Christ by introducing practices which 2000 years of the "old" Bible and church history has condemned. The key "lust" of those tipsy on new wine which has really been placed in an old, Jewish-pagan wineskin, is to force the introduction of "Musical Worship Teams" which is leading to the natural consequence -- musical instruments. This is created by foreign (barbarian) "yeasts" getting into the ceremonially pure vessels of clay Jesus used to store the pure water of the word. This foreign yeast is well documented in the Bible, the Classics and the church Fathers as being straight from the barbarians vineyards -- the grapes of Sodom.

Contrary to the charge, the new wineskin religion puts its focus totally upon the "young, the talented, the beautiful, the musical and the theatrical." Jesus or Paul or Peter need not apply because they would be too "straight" and morose: they would not do the dionysus dance as the children clergy piped.

For purely commercial purposes, the "musical worship teams" are used to replace and displace those who cannot carry a tune: attracting the masses through the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, the lust of the ears and the unholy pride of performers.

Cope: This wall-tumbling movement is, it seems, ordained by God.

Nope again! The total warning is against breaking down walls which God has constructed. There is not a hint that breaking down walls or "becoming as much like the world as possible" according to Rubel Shelly comes from God except when people are beyond redemption for ignoring God by ignoring His Word.

Before you can again be a Restoration Movement church you have to "plug the leaks" by rebuilding the walls to keep the market place out of the "temple" on the "Sabbath."

Your people will rebuild the ancient ruins and will raise up the age-old foundations; you will be called Repairer of Broken Walls, Restorer of Streets with Dwellings. Is.58:12

If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honourable; and shalt honour him,

not doing thine own ways,
nor finding thine own pleasure,
nor speaking thine own words: Isaiah 58:13

But then, perhaps YEP! Because when walls come tumbling down in God's Word it is often because people are beyond redemption and it is time to let in the wild beasts to "prune your vines" or to "take your inheritance" -- the meaning of "Chalal" to take your inheritance, prune your vine, play the flute or prostitute.

Based on many Old Testament "types" we would expect that the end-time church will be a Babylonian-whore type. However, one name for Babylon or "Sodom" is "Jerusalem."

And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. Re.11:8

In the end-time the overwhelming majority will be engaged in a Trumpet Orchestra when the "Last Trump" sounds. However, salvation is not in going Post-Modern or Narrative Theology which denies inspiration but a Restoration Movement:

Turn [return to the starting point] us again, O God of hosts, and cause thy face to shine; and we shall be saved. Psalm 80:7

Thou hast brought a vine out of Egypt: thou hast cast out the heathen, and planted it. Psalm 80:8

Thou preparedst room before it, and didst cause it to take deep root, and it filled the land. Psalm 80:9

The hills were covered with the shadow of it, and the boughs thereof were like the goodly cedars. Psalm 80:10

She sent out her boughs unto the sea, and her branches unto the river. Psalm 80:11

Why hast thou then broken down her walls, so that all they which pass by the way do pluck her? Psalm 80:12

The boar (spelled "bore") out of the wood doth waste it, and the wild beast of the field doth devour it. Psalm 80:13

Pluck is similar to: Chalal (h2490) khaw-lal'; a prim. root [comp. 2470]; prop. to bore, i. e. (by impl.) to wound, to dissolve; fig. to profane (a person, place or thing), to break (one's word), to begin (as if by an "opening wedge"); denom. (from 2485) to play (the flute): - begin (* men began), defile, * break, defile, * eat (as common things), * first, * gather the grape thereof, * take inheritance, pipe, player on instruments, pollute, (cast as) profane (self), prostitute, slay (slain), sorrow, stain, wound.

Breaking down walls is never used in a positive sense:

Parac (h6555) paw-rats'; a prim. root; to break out (in many applications, direct and indirect, lit. and fig.): - abroad, (make a) breach, break (away, down, -er, forth, in, up), burst out come (spread) abroad, compel, disperse, grow, increase, open, press, scatter, urge.

Isaiah 5 attributes the problem to religious festivals with wine and instrumental music as in Amos 5, 6 and 8.

A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring. Proverbs 25:26

It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory. Proverbs 25:27

He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls. Proverbs 25:28

Amos 5, 6 and 8 connects broken walls of morality, wineskins and musical worship. The people were abused and went into captivity because they lacked knowledge. Here is one of the theatrical musicians (barbarians) playing the barbados reclining on a couch which often was made with inlaid ivory idols.

Isaiah 5 shows that when walls are being broken down, sure enough it may be God breaking them down but heaven help those who have been the Judas agent:

Chapter 5 -- When God Sings or Pours Out His Spirit, Watch out!

1 NOW will I sing to my wellbeloved a song of my beloved touching his vineyard. My wellbeloved hath a vineyard in a very fruitful hill:

2 And he fenced it, and gathered out the stones thereof, and planted it with the choicest vine, and built a tower (watchmen - elders) in the midst of it, and also made a winepress therein: and he looked that it should bring forth grapes,
........... and it brought forth wild grapes.

3 And now, O inhabitants of Jerusalem, and men of Judah, judge, I pray you, betwixt me and my vineyard.

4 What could have been done more to my vineyard, that I have not done in it? wherefore, when I looked that it should bring forth grapes,
..... brought it forth wild grapes?

5 And now go to; I will tell you what I will do to my vineyard:

I will take away the hedge thereof,
..... and it shall be eaten up; and

break down the wall thereof,
..... and it shall be trodden down:

6 And I will lay it waste: it shall not be pruned, nor digged; but there shall come up briers and thorns:
..... I will also command the clouds that they rain no rain upon it. [The Word just dries up]

7 For the vineyard of the Lord of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and

he looked for judgment,
..... but behold oppression;
..... but behold a cry.

8 Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place,

that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth

9 In mine ears said the Lord of hosts, Of a truth many houses shall be desolate, even great and fair, without inhabitant.

10 Yea, ten acres of vineyard shall yield one bath, and the seed of an homer shall yield an ephah.

11 Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night,
..... till wine inflame them

12 And the harp, and the viol, the tabret, and pipe, and wine, are in their feasts: [Religious festivals in Amos]
..... but they regard not the work of the Lord, neither consider the operation of his hands.

13 Therefore my people are gone into captivity [fellowship with the Babylonians who promised a city without walls],

because they have no knowledge: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst.

14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure:

and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

All your pomp has been brought down to the grave, along with the noise of your harps; maggots are spread out beneath you and worms cover you. Isaiah 14:11

15 And the mean man shall be brought down, and the mighty man shall be humbled,
..... and the eyes of the lofty shall be humbled:

16 But the Lord of hosts shall be exalted in judgment,
..... and God that is holy shall be sanctified in righteousness.

17 Then shall the lambs feed after their manner, and the waste places of the fat ones shall strangers eat.

[The manner of lamb eating is beside still waters with no "burden" of "spiritual anxiety created by religious ritual"]

18 Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as it were with a cart rope:

19 That say, Let him make speed, and hasten his work, that we may see it: and
..... let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel draw nigh and come, that we may know it

20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter

21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight

22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:

23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him

24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust:

because they have cast away the law of the Lord of hosts,
despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

The Testament of Judah shows how this came about.

The Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs is an ancient document explaining the Jewish understanding of Isaiah 5 and the Tribe of Judah which withered away to a tiny remnant. This document shows that most battles are acted out upon the walls meant to protect. Click for the document.

The wine and musical festivals in Isaiah 5 are here identified as for divination. Music was often used in a religious to "lead the worshipers into the presence of the gods" or to "get a revelation from the gods." For this reason, the Word of God was ignored and the people died of spiritual hunger and thirst.

The story concerns Judah's daughter in law, Tamar, seducing him by acting as a shrine prostitute. She was a Babylonian whose blood mingled with those of Judah and through whom Canaanites gained a huge influence in the later Temple guilds.

After Judah's wife died he found his daughter in law, Tamar, at the city gate of Enaim acting as a shrine prostitute:

And after these things, while Tamar was a widow, she heard after two years that I was going up to shear my sheep, and adorned herself in bridal array, and sat in the city Enaim by the gate.

For it was a law of the Amorites, that she who was about to marry should sit in fornication seven days by the gate.

Therefore, being drunk with wine, I did not recognize her; and her beauty deceived me, through the fashion of her adorning." (Judah 2:22-24)

23. Now I have much grief, my children, because of your lewdness, and witchcrafts, and idolatries,

which ye will work against the kingdom,
following them that have
familiar spirits
ye will
make your daughters singing girls and harlots for divinations and demons of error,
and ye will be
mingled in the pollutions of the Gentiles:

for which things' sake the Lord shall bring upon you famine and pestilence, death and the sword, avenging siege, and dogs for the rending in pieces of enemies,

and revilings of friends, destruction and blighting of eyes, children slaughtered, wives carried off, possessions plundered,

temple of God in flames, your land desolated, your own selves enslaved among the Gentiles,

and they shall make some of you eunuchs for their wives; and whenever ye will return to the Lord with humility of heart, repenting and walking in all the commandments of God, then will the Lord visit you in mercy and in love, bringing you from out of the bondage of your enemies.

Later, when Israel rejected God, He promised that the king would take their sons and daughters and make them servants of the military and of his own farm and palace (1 Sam 8). Familiar spirits, diviners and demon worshippers relied heavily on music and other charismatic (drug inducing) rituals. For instance, before Paul alluded to music (1 Cor 13) and charismatic prophesying (primarily by the women) he, in chapter 10, warned them not to worship demons by reminnding them of the wilderness idolatry.

Mike Cope: It stems from more and more Christians finally owning up to their baptismal vows:

"You are all children of God through faith in Jesus Christ, for all of you where baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. (Galatians 3:26-28).

I don't remember that being a baptismal vow. Wow! No. The Christians have absolutely nothing to do with breaking down the walls of the sheep fold so that the hirelings can steal sheep. In the Bible, the wall tumbling movement was fueled by men involved in commercial religion which has been stolen from the pagan world. The baptismal vow is more like:

I will submit my body as a living sacrifice. That is, I will reckon my body dead, burned up on the altar.
I will consider myself alive unto Christ.
Therefore, I cannot mingle with the sins of the world.

The "clothing" of Christ is a wall to protect us: you cannot break down the walls to the world without putting off Christ. If we hear Mike Cope literally then there is no "male-female" distinction and isn't that the meaning of Plato's theatrical performance where Platonic love was "love of a man for a young boy"?

Male can perform what was anciently called "the feminine arts" of music as worship; and females can be the pastors, standing over and presiding over the flock and preaching over the flock as long as she does it to a tune.

Why should we get excited that males marry males?

We can revive the Jewish "Jubilee" and thereby deny that Jesus restored all things. We can Judaize because the theme of the "Jubilee is the Atonement."

"The purpose of each Jubilee is usually fixed by the reigning Pontiff, at the promulgation, but it is merely a repetition of the reasons for which the Jubilee was originally instituted:

"the call of Holy Mother Church to the state of Grace,
"a return to the Sacraments,
Click to See Walk To Emmaus as fulfilment.
"a greater fraternal charity
liberation from social evils, and the renewal of the moral life.

"At times, when one of these needs was more particularly felt, the Pope would not hesitate to grant it, without changing thereby the general character of the Jubilee. So it was that at the first Universal Jubilee - also known as the General or Major Jubilee or Holy Year - there came into being the Minor Jubilee.

"Whatever form its social ramifications may have taken, the jubilee was, and remained, a religious affair, for the atonement of sin (see Lev. XXV, 9)."

The legalistic Musical Worship Teams to bring us into the presence of God are clearly modeled by the Catholics after the Levitical Clergy. This was because the musical idolatry at Mount Sinai

brought on the Book of The Law where the people were "strangers" and
could not "come boldly before the throne of God." This is why they cannot approach the pulpit as the Catholic "most holy place" without divine permission.

The Dominant Pastor is clearly the reproduction of the Catholic Father - the high priest.

If Judaism is in effect then we can break down our walls and let the lambs out among the wolves and let the wolves into the sheep fold: this was the prophecy about elders who historically fed themselves off the fat of the lambs.

Theatrical performance, musical performance, a "sexually and morally confused" man becomes the clan prophet to get the messages from the gods. This, rather than inclusive-exclusive attitudes, was and is the historical methods of binding a clan together inside the new walls:

Henry Bamfort Parkes notes how the worlds oldest profession worked to break down walls:

"In this fashion evey common tribal interest--the recurrence of the seasons, the increase of the food supply, successful hunting--was likely to become embodied in some regularly repeated ceremony, which usually included group dancing, singing, and feasting.

"Besides enabling men to express, and thereby to allay, anger and anxiety, such ceremonies also promoted tribal unity and strengthened the loyalty of the individual to tribal traditions,

"for the emotional excitement they aroused had the effect of

"breaking down the barriers between individuals and thus fusing all tribesmen into a collective whole.

"Meanwhile, whole systems of magical devices were gradually elaborated." (Parkes, p. 29) [Click Here to see PK 1996 for a modern example)

'Certain members of a tribe, marked out either by unusual skills or by some emotional abnormality, ususally became particularly adept at these operations, and gradually assumed specialized functions.

Released from the duty of hunting, and concentrating on the practice of magic, the shaman, sorcerer, or medicine man
........... was the world's first professional." (Parkes, p. 29).

"The development both of religion and of the arts can be traced back in a continuous line to the hunting era.

The group ritual of the primeval tribesmen were the origin not only of all religious ceremonial,

[Note: Christianity does not do "ceremonial" which according to the meaning of the "burden" Jesus came to remove is "spiritual anxiety created by religious ceremonial."]

but also of the drama and of poetry and music, while magic gave birth to the visual arts." (Parkes, p. 30).

"Awed by the mysteries of his own spirit no less than by those of nature, primitive man was likely to attribute to divine influence

any abnormal emotional state, whether above or below the usual level. Medicine men customarily went into states of trance in which they were believed to be in communication with the gods,

and many tribes supposed lunatics and sexual deviants to be divinely possessed.

In most early societies, moreover, men evolved techniques for deliberaly inducing the abnormal forms of consciousness in which they supposed themselves to achieve union with divine power, sometimes by the use of drugs and other physiological stimuli, sometimes by hypnotic dances and music.

The wild utterances to which they gave vent on such occasions were regarded as the words of a god and were interpreted as divine commands or predictions of future events." (Parkes, p. 32-33).

There BE true hereticls and barbarians storming the gates out there!

Mike Cope: Of course, this is all very disorienting. With walls we feel safe and secure, protected from the heretics and barbarians storming the gates.

That is so correct! I like the walls behind which I live. The neighbor's bull doesn't stop in the living room and leave a deposit on my "pulpit." The thief doesn't break through and steal. I don't need a constant "watchman on the wall" and I can enjoy the rest brought by Jesus beside still waters. I am removed from the burden which is "spiritual anxiety created by religious ritual" by performance clergy. I don't "go outside the walls and into the desert just because someone says that 'the kingdom is out here.' Jesus still says, 'the kingdom of God is within you'."

But, why do professionals hate walls?

Be it known now unto the king, that, if this city be builded, and the walls set up again, then will they not pay toll, tribute, and custom, and so thou shalt endamage the revenue of the kings. Ezra 4:13

Both the Samaritans and returning Jews wanted the walls broken down so that they could engage in commerce -- bringing the merchants right into the temple walls.

Tobiah, the enemy of the returning Jews was given a lush apartment in what had once been the Food Storage Room. Is there a message here?

In "Ephraim the Syrian and Aphrahat the Persian Sage"

"(His life) extends farther to many incidents related in the Life,-such as the attempt of Sapor to take Nisibis by turning the river against its walls,

Ephraim's encounter with the woman who met him as he entered Edessa and her retort to his rebuke,

his borrowing the music of the heretic in order to popularize the orthodox teaching of his own hymns,

In "three unsuccessful sieges laid to it by Sapor, King of Persia, down to its final surrender under the terms of the ignominious peace concluded with Sapor by the Emperor Jovian after the defeat and death of his predecessor Julian (a.d. 363). Nisibis was then abandoned by its Christian inhabitants.

So, by the time you get the walls broken down the Christians will have been "raptured" out.

Strabo Geography 10.3.9

"But I must now investigate how it comes about that so many names have been used of one and the same thing, and the theological element contained in their history.

Now this is common both to the Greeks and to the barbarians,
perform their sacred rites in connection with the relaxation of a festival,

these rites being performed sometimes with religious frenzy, sometimes without it;
sometimes with
music, sometimes not; and sometimes in secret, sometimes openly.

And it is in accordance with the dictates of nature that this should be so, for,

in the first place, the relaxation draws the mind away from human occupations and turns the real mind towards that which is divine; and,

secondly, the religious frenzy seems to afford a kind of divine inspiration and to be very like that of the soothsayer; [The book of Enoch substitutes "soothsaying" for the "musical instruments and choirs" in the Second Book of Adam and Eve]

and, thirdly, the secrecy with which the sacred rites are concealed induces reverence for the divine,

since it imitates the nature of the divine,
which is to avoid being perceived by our human senses; [This was the "speaking in tongues" motive]

and, fourthly, music, which includes dancing as well as rhythm and melody, at the same time,

by the delight it affords and by its artistic beauty, brings us in touch with the divine,

and this for the following reason; for although it has been well said that

human beings then act most like the gods when they are doing good to others,
yet one might better say, when they are happy; and such happiness consists of rejoicing, celebrating festivals, pursuing philosophy, and engaging in music.

Herodotus shows the effeminate connecton and separates harp-playing and singing. After the "walls had been broken down" it was requested of Cyrus that rather than destroy the barbarian enemy, just reincarnate them into women:

Grant, then, forgiveness to the Lydians, and to make sure of their never rebelling against thee, or alarming thee more, send and forbid them to keep any weapons of war, command them to wear tunics under their cloaks, and to put buskins upon their legs,

and make them bring up their sons to cithern-playing (Kitharizein), singing (psallein), and huckstering
So wilt thou soon see them become women instead of men,
and there will be no more fear of their revolting from thee."
Click for Herodotus context

You may want to scan down through the emphasized text to see the entire "breaking down the walls, ritual prostitution instrumental music" story.

Musical worship teams, whatever the motive, is "ritual prostitution." The male leadership "uses" them with beauty and talent to attract the "seekers" with the knowledge aforethought that that which works is sexual attraction: interestingly males are attracted to the males and to the females.

The "authority" Paul outlawed is defined as "sexual authority."

Here are some more barbarians playing the barbatos:

Sounds like a cute preacher's joke to make us ashamed of
still believing that there are heretics and barbarians; but If it is all the same to you, I would like to keep the heretics and barbarians outside:

It was also popular as entertainment at drinking parties and during festivals such as the Dionysia and the Anthesteria. In vase paintings from the Classical Period the barbitos is played either in a seated or standing position, by both women and men. Unlike the chelys-Lyra, the barbitos was not used in music lessons because, according to Aristotle (Politics 1341a-b),

it was designed purely for pleasure, not for education.

Thrasippus after having provided the chorus for Ecphantides... later on it came to be disapproved of as a result of actual experience,

when men were more capable of judging what music conduced to virtue and what did not;
and similarly also many of the old instruments were
disapproved of, like the pectis and the barbitos

and the instruments designed to give pleasure to those who hear people playing them, the septangle, the triangle and the sambyc,

Euripides, in his Bacchae (Click for), citing the Lydian usages at the same time with those of Phrygia, because of their similarity:

But ye who left Mt. Tmolus, fortress of Lydia,
revel-band of mine, euripides
women whom I brought from the land of barbarians

as my assistants and travelling companions,
uplift the tambourines native to Phrygian cities,
inventions of mine and
mother Rhea.

"giving himself excessive airs of daintiness and indulging in all sorts of effeminacy;

sometimes darting his eyes about;
throwing his hands hither and thither, and raving (Tatian to the Greeks, Ante-Nicene, Vol. II, p. 75).

"Apollo at Delphi had to pay for the guilt of slaying the powers of the underworld which have their own rights.

Then there are the methods of introduction through psychological means.

Intoxication is brought about by a change of light and darkness, by ascetic fasting, by incense, sounds, music, etc." (Tillich, Paul, A History of Christian Thought, Touchstone, p. 14).

"The backdrop to the central figures of Pentheus and Dionysos is the chorus of The Bacchae, female devotees of the god. The word bakkhos (masculine) or bakkh (feminine) designates someone who has been possessed by the god, who literally has the god within. (The word entheos, meaning "having the god [= theos] within," is the ultimate source of our word enthusiasm.) The feminine plural of this word, bakkhai, is Latinized as "bacchae," whence the name of the tragedy, Bacchae. Euripides the Bacchantee (Click For)

The play is named after the chorus, that is, the song-and-dance ensemble who stand for the true followers of the god.

These women are Lydians and hence foreigners, accompanying Dionysos as he travels all the way from distant Lydia to the center of Hellenism, Thebes. For more Click Here

Mike Cope: But the efforts of a few to stick their fingers in the cracks in the walls to hold them together are futile. (Sob!}

True Christianity has always been the "little boy" putting his fingers into the cracks in the walls created by the "overflowing waters" trying to wash "the mother and her child" off the face of the earth. And it will ever be. The BIG MEN singing and dancing on the broken walls are big in their own sights but the "little boys" stopping leaks will win when the celebration is over.

Me? I have no trouble being one of the "little boys"
........... "who will be called Repairer of Broken Walls, Restorer of Streets with Dwellings. Is.58:12

As I remember Little Dutch Boy story, the people lived under a hostile sea just as Christians are pilgrims in a foreign land. If the little drips grew up to be wall crashers the destructive "chaos" would flow over the good, the bad and the ugly. The believers have always been "little boys" in a man's world who have had to hold the walls together while the Nehemiah-like clergy chorus was "mounting" and dancing on top alarming the enemies. The faithful have always been identified by their "fewness"

and popularity is always a sign that God is pouring out His wrath and if we understand Ephesiahs 4 correctly it is in the form of "buffoons" making fools of fools as Paul might say to the Corinthians.

Mike Cope: Too many now realize through relationships built at

Bible Study Fellowship, [Female dominated]

Walk to Emmaus, (This is the Catholic - Episcopal Cursillo Movement (Click For) brought to Highland Church of Christ by Methodists seemingly rejoining the Mother church)

Who can take part? Cursillo is open to all adult Episcopalians, men and women, married or single. Laity and clergy alike are invited to join the fellowship. Husbands and wives may attend the same Cursillo Weekend, or they may go on different weekends.

Promise Keeprs, (This is the new age phallic movement (Click For) of bonding buddies aspiring to be a world-wide movement -- but it won't work very long.)

or any number of other ministries,
........... that not all Christ-followers understand all matters of doctrine the way we do.

Why in the name of holy Jubilee would one have to join the Bible Study Fellowship denomination, the Walk to Emmaus (Methodists in bed with Catholics) and Promise Breakers Denomination to know that not everyone understands all matters of doctrine the way we do? Whoa. Get us some Mental Awareness 101aaa. That is why there is a Restoration Movement! Did you miss that?

These are all denominational groups which have their own walls and you will not get in without their permission any sooner than any "decadent and deliterious" church of Christ. Try getting and posting BSF literature on the Web! Just try to get it! Try to become a leader! You break down the wall but they get your sheep!

That is why we follow Jesus and leave those walls up! Just reading the PK football paradigm makes the identification with ancient charismatic fanny-patting practices of mind-control certain.

Mike Cope: As Leonard Allen has insightfully written in this issue, "It is long past time for us to acknowledge the great stream of historic trinitarian Christian faith, a stream often muddy and polluted, to be sure, but a stream that nonetheless has proclaimed the love of the Father, known the grace of the Lord Jesus, and experienced the fellowship of the Spirit.

See Leonard's Fatal take on the trinity

The Presbyterian, W. Robertson, in 1868 defined the true "legalist"

Finally we are exhorted not to have too many laws; obedience is always grudgingly offered to laws regarding trifling matters. The authority of the New Testament in regard to all matters which, resting on his own private opinion, the Christian may think to be of little value, is thus set aside;

the Redeemer's own sentiment ignored, that he that is unfaithful in little will be unfaithful also in much.

And we venture to think that not those who disapprove of,

but those who introduce services and peculiarities which are trifling and insignificant,
are the guilty parties here.

Those who sow discord have eternally claimed that the ones who resist the introduction of instruments are guilt of sowing discord. This is the Guilt Clause. The Pope tried that on Martin Luther and John Calvin.

Surely they are not guilty of petty legislation
........... who desire to drink of the unadulterated stream from the living fountain of God's Word,
........... ........... and to distribute that alone for the healing and refreshment of the nations;

but those unquestionably are who would pollute that pure stream, by introducing the muddy waters of the outside world to mingle them with its crystal flood, how infinitesimal soever the mixture may be, and desire to inveigle Synods and Assemblies by belittling pretences, to approve by solemn deed of their pettifogging efforts.

"Secretary Walpole," said one, "could not keep London people out of their own parks;" therefore,
we should not be hindered from having organs in all our churches; inferring, no doubt,
we can put them in whether you will or not.
By all this variety of pretence we are induced to part with the precious privilege of appealing in all things to the Divine Word.

We repeat:

A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring. Proverbs 25:26

It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory. Proverbs 25:27

He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls. Proverbs 25:28

The "main polluted stream" of humanity was to be avoided. Even among the Jews there would be just a tiny remnant:

AND there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: Isaiah 11:1

Woe unto them for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. Jude 1:11

These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; Jude 1:12

These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever 2Pe.2:17

Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever. Jude 1:13

These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having mens persons in admiration because of advantage. Jude 1:16

But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; Jude 1:17

God through Ezekiel would not allow those who have muddied the water to let the lambs drink from a muddy and polluted stream. The "stream" of the Word flowing out of Zion is still just as fresh as when it was turned loose: Bible 101aaa:

I will feed them in a good pasture, and upon the high mountains of Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie in a good fold, and in a fat pasture shall they feed upon the mountains of Israel. Ezekiel 34:14

I will feed my flock, and I will cause them to lie down, saith the Lord God. Ezekiel 34:15

I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick:

but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment. Ezekiel 34:16

As for you, my flock, this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will judge between one sheep and another, and between rams and goats. Ezekiel 34:17

Is it not enough for you to feed on the good pasture? Must you also trample the rest of your pasture with your feet? Is it not enough for you to drink clear water? Must you also muddy the rest with your feet? Ezekiel 34:18

Must my flock feed on what you have trampled and drink what you have muddied with your feet? Ezekiel 34:19

Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says to them: See, I myself will judge between the fat sheep and the lean sheep. Ezekiel 34:20

Because you shove with flank and shoulder, butting all the weak sheep with your horns (coronets) until you have driven them away, Ezekiel 34:21

I will save my flock, and they will no longer be plundered. I will judge between one sheep and another. Ezekiel 34:22

I will place over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he will tend them; he will tend them and be their shepherd. Ezekiel 34:23

And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. Jn.10:16

Doctors of the Law, did you get the point? No! Well, the point is that the stream muddied by self-glorying "shepherds" has a fountainhead: this is why the Restoration Movement must absolutely discount any of the trinitarian stream-muddiers and return to the "fountain free, 'tis for you and me."

Only when Christ is the Shepherd is it safe for the sheep to sleep outside the walls.


Mike Cope: "A stream often muddy and polluted, to be sure, but a stream that nonetheless has proclaimed the love of the Father, known the grace of the Lord Jesus, and experienced the fellowship of the Spirit.

That also sounds like psycho babel to me. The stream of historic trinitarian Christian faith never saw the Rubel Shelly version of three members of the God family able to stand side by side or face to face where "Father" god and Spirit god ace out the son god so that He would have to come to earth and die for mankind. Neither did the early Restoration Movement believe in the ancient pagan, neo-trinitarian dogma which Paul Tillich says would have been heresy before the liberal 19th century. See some notes about historical facts about the three-people trinity.

Woe to you who drink water from every fountain,

For suddenly shall ye be consumed and wither away,
Because ye have forsaken the fountain of life.

The urge to "recognize" or "affirm" is a guilt complex which some preachers have because of their past judgmentalism. However, most of us don't have time to "flow" all around the country meeting buddies and selling books and heaping ridicule on those who don't want their walls broken down. Most of us are fully and gainfully occupied in being our little "yeast cell" in our own community where there is not time to "fellowship" more than 10% of our own group. This urge to affirm all is a God-Complex of the silliest kind. I really think that "ecumenical" means "there are more Baptist and Catholic book buyers than church of Christers."

The lust to affirm everyone in a ecumenical movement inside of a rubber wineskin is the same judgmentalism which on its obverse side declared that no one is ok. The same judgmentalism heaped on denominations is now heaped on those who payed their bills and put their kids through college. Don't they all get meaner as they reach retirement age?

Mike Cope: Too many now realize that Scripture permits all followers of the Lord to use their gifts not just men.

We don't worry about Scripture: we worry about the ruling pastor replacing Jesus and the elders. The assembly is narrowly defined as a synagogue or school of the Bible: Peter outlaws private interpretations which is further expounding. That would define the Spirit of Christ as incompetene.

1Pet. 4:11 If any man speak
        let him speak as the oracles of God;
if any man minister,
        let him do it as of the ability which God giveth:
that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

As far as I can determine there is no room for either male or female talent in the collective assembly. Talent claims that "I am going beyond that which is written" and that the songs and sermons of the Incarnate God of the universe are not good enough. It takes little talent to read the word and little talent to dialog it. It takes no talent to prepare and serve the Lord's Supper.

The command is not "to sing" and "song leader" is not one of those officers Christ ordained for the church. If the command to "teach and admonish one another with the pure, revealed Word of God" is obeyed it takes little human talent: to trust in human talent is to diminish the role of Christ the Spirit.

Talent is needed only with the New Wineskin Praise Craze or by preachers more devoted to themselves and performance than to the Word. That 1 hour out of 168 does not prevent any one from using any talent the other 167 hours of the long week. Our critic is fatally attached to institutional performance worship and by keeping the focus on who can and cannot perform, the broader legitimate task of evangelism can be ignored because the "audience" has been too dumbed down to recognize that the "threshing oxen" has moved in and become surrogate "father" and "husband" of the "family."

Mike Cope: Too many know that the artificial separations based on skin color have been ungodly.

If their IQ was as high as their shoe size they would not have to embrace the world to know that artificial separations based on skin color is ungodly. However, this has been an almost-exclusively clergy problem.

How are new wineskins merchants any less racists than we old timers? The new wineskin dogma actually divides and sows discord among brothers by contending that churches of Christ divided from the Disciples not over instrumental music and world-wide organizationism but over racism (Click to see). This slander has no other object than to predjuice the wall breakers against the traditional church of Christ. It is evil, ignorant and the walls will let the beasts in to drink your wine and even trample down the vines so that nothing can grow but thorns.

The new wineskin doctors of the law parrot the common view that churches of Christ divided over the Civil War and racism. In fact, churches of Christ did not but Methodists, Baptists, Presbyterians and Catholics did. And most groups fought the lust to add instrumental music. See the story which begins with witchcraft and the First Great American Awakening where theatrical performers broke down the walls to traditional churches. It ends with the Civil War which was really a religious war. Dominant females have been at the core of these divisions where "one breach-loading rifle had more moral power than a hundred bibles."

Mike Cope: And too many have learned how the Spirit has gifted our mentally handicapped sisters and brothers to exclude them any longer (as they have been in places) from the ministries of the church.

I would really enjoy a "for example." I believe that this is just made up like Gallup determined that 80% of preacher's stories were not factual -- just made up. Then, what is the point? Are believers who don't have the inclination or time to "fellowship" the world in a new, wide-open wineskin more destrutive of the handicaped? Is that the point? It is a historical fact that conservative believers have built the orphan homes and do the medical missions while new wineskin merchants sip the wine in a Catholic Euchrist. Conservatives always built the colleges and universities and they were all stolen by the wall-breakers who made grand appartments for the "Tobias" of the world in the old food pantry.

The point seems to be that "WE are good guys but THEY are bad guys. Therefore, you should leave your church and join our new movement." Is this sowing discord among brethren or what?

Mike Cope: To his wall-building neighbor, Frost imagined saying:

Why do (walls) make good neighbors?
Before I built a wall I,d ask to know
What I was walling in, or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offense.
Something there is that doesn,t love a wall,
That wants it down.

Well, you might want to check up on the "old" Word of God in Isaiah 5 and Ezekiel 33:

Chapter 33

1 AGAIN the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

2 Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman:

3 If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people;

4 Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.

5 He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.

6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchmans hand.

7 So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.

8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

27 Say thou thus unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; As I live, surely they that are in the wastes shall fall by the sword, and him that is in the open field will I give to the beasts to be devoured, and they that be in the forts and in the caves shall die of the pestilence.

28 For I will lay the land most desolate, and the pomp of her strength shall cease; and the mountains of Israel shall be desolate, that none shall pass through.

29 Then shall they know that I am the Lord, when I have laid the land most desolate because of all their abominations which they have committed.

30 Also, thou son of man, the children of thy people still are talking against thee by the walls and in the doors of the houses, and speak one to another, every one to his brother, saying, Come, I pray you, and hear what is the word that cometh forth from the Lord.

31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people,

and they hear thy words,
........... but they will not do them:

for with their mouth they shew much love,
........... but their heart goeth after their covetousness.

32 And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song (amourous) of one

that hath a pleasant voice,
..... and can play well on an instrument:

for they hear thy words,
..... but they do them not.

33 And when this cometh to pass, (lo, it will come,) then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them.

Scripture, Jesus, Paul and Frost should not be proof-texted to gain authority for breaking down walls and sowing discord:

Mending Wall
Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it
And spills the upper boulder in the sun,
And make gaps even two can pass abreast.
The work of hunters is another thing:
I have come after them and made repair
Where they have left not one stone on a stone,
But they would have the rabbit out of hiding,
To please the yelping dogs. The gaps I mean,
No one has seen them made or heard them made,
But at spring mending-time we find them there,
I let my neighbor know beyond the hill;
And on a day we meet to walk the line
And set the wall between us once again.
We keep the wall between us as we go.
To each the boulders that have fallen to each.
And some are loaves and some so nearly balls
We have to use a spell to make them balance:
"Stay where you are until our backs are turned!"
We wear our fingers rough with handling them.
Oh, just another kind of outdoor game,
One on a side. It comes to little more:
There were it is we do not need the wall:
He is all pine and I am apple orchard.
My apple trees will never get across
And eat the cones under his pines, I tell him.
He only says, "Good fences make good neighbors."
Spring is the mischief in me, and I wonder
If I could put a notion in his head:
"Why do they make good neighbors? Isn't it
Where there are cows? But here there are no cows.
[But there are lambs]
Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offense.
Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That wants it down." I could say "Elves" to him,
[Elf: prankish fairy, small mischievous child]
But it's not elves exactly, and I'd rather
He said it for himself. I see him there,
Bringing a stone grasped firmly by the top
In each hand, like an old-stone savage armed.
He moves in darkness as it seems to me,
Not of woods only and the shade of trees.
He will not go behind his father's saying,
And he likes having though of it so well [Amen!]

Mike Cope again: "The problem was that his neighbor, following an old proverb of his father, beleived that "good fences make good neighbors. They make sure boundaries are clearly defined. No amount of reasoning and experience could convince him otherwise.

Mike does not grasp that there are lambs on this side and dogs or wolves on the other: dogs and wolves are lusting to steal your flock to eat them up or in the human sense make love with them.
I will not go behind my "Father's" saying either. Click Here to see the Genun / Jubal and Seth's refusal to obey Satan but demanded that he must return to his own father for advice. Mike Cope would have us refuse to follow "the old paths" but this is always dangerous when God is our father. 

Do not move your neighbor's boundary stone

set up by your predecessors in the inheritance you receive
in the land the LORD your God is giving you to possess.

Cursed is the man who dishonors his father or his mother."
..... Then all the people shall say, "Amen!" Deut 27:16

Cursed is the man who moves his neighbor's boundary stone."
..... Then all the people shall say, "Amen!" Deut 27:17

Jesus would not agree with either Robert Frost's mischief or Mike Cope's theology:

To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, 1 Peter 2:4

Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. 1 Peter .2:5

Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. 1 Peter 2:6

Unto you therefore which believe he is precious:

but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, 1 Peter 2:7

Shame, shame, shame. Evangelists have the task of adding one stone at a time to the building and will answer for the mischief which says, "Let's kick us down some stones. There might be a rabbit lurking in there -- and we need to feed the yelping dogs."

Mike Cope: He says again, "Good fences make good neighbors."

That "something is actually a Someone: our God, who in Jesus Christ has proven himself an enemy of dividing walls (Ephesians 2:14).

Let the walls come down! 

This was the charismatic cry of PK 1996 which would embarass most of us who completed out masculine journey at about age 12.

See The Sons of Shamgar: A oxgoad swinging fertility group of PK-type masculine journey.

No. Jesus Christ said nothing about being enemy of walls: Paul said nothing about breaking down walls. Rather Paul wrote to warn us that we are not the wall kickers downers:

First, the wall between Jew and Gentile:

That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: Ephesians 2:12

But now, in Christ Jesus, ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. Ephesians 2:13

The walls tumbled only when both Jew and Gentile, male and female (whose worship was, well, effeminate) when all came into the Temple which is the Body of Christ - the Church.

You, dear wall busters, are not Christ. Therefore, you can do nothing to bring the present religious Jews and Gentiles together without abandoning Christ:

For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and (Chirst) hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Ephesians 2:14

Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; Ephesians 2:15

And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: Ephesians 2:16

Both have to come inside the "walls" of His body or temple and the barbarians are still outside the walls. Those who kick down walls, therefore, may be the barbarians.

Of Male-Female:

Edersheim notes that:

"The separation of the sexes, which was observed even in the Temple at the time of Christ,

was strictly carried out in the synagogues,
such division being made effectual by a partition,
boarded off and provided with gratings,
to which there was separate access.

The practice seems simply in accordance with Eastern manners and modes of thinking. But the Rabbis, who seek Scripture authority for every arrangement, however trivial, find in this case their warrant in Zechariah 12:11-14, where "the wives" are no less than five times spoken of as "apart," while engaged in their prayerful mourning.

This separation was between those who were in covenant relationship: women by birth and men by circumcision. God never broke down the wall so that the beasts could get to his lambs.

This has nothing to do with breaking down the walls between those who honor Christ's Great Commission with baptism and new temple builders who deny in the general atonement power of the blood of Christ.

As Ken Ball would say: "If your attention span is as long as your shoe lace" remember what we just quoted:

I will save my flock, and they will no longer be plundered. I will judge between one sheep and another. Ezekiel 34:22

I will place over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he will tend them; he will tend them and be their shepherd. Ezekiel 34:23

And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice;

and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. Jn.10:16

PK Atlanta involved almost 40,000 clergy breaking down the walls in a clearly effeminate dissociation. All of them believed that they were the ONE shepherd. They were all hirelings or they would be in their own fold looking out for their lambs.

A sheepfold always has walls: The Shepherd knows what He wants to wall in and He knows whom it wants to wall out. In the Greek it has walls but unfortunately the strange "winds of doctrine" can still blow under the control of Navigators of The Winds of Doctrine:

Aule (g833) ow-lay'; from the same as 109; a yard (as open to the wind); by impl. a mansion: - court, ([sheep-]) fold, hall, palace.

But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. Re.11:2

Figure or Shadow or Type of the walls Jesus broke down with His own blood:

The picture on the left shows the walls between the Israelites, the Priests, The Women and the Ethnic Gentiles who had been added to His Church. The picture on the right has the middle barriers broken down. However, the pagans and heritics and barbarians were not allowed in the temple area. The Egyptian Osiris worshipers were not included; the Roman Emperor worshipers were not allowed and the women worshiping Tammuz were no longer included. None but those who had conformed themselves to the will of Christ in baptism were added into the new "temple" as the body of Christ. Only they could "come boldly before the throne of Grace" inside of the Holy Place without stumbling over priests or being assualted by the musical Levites who forced you to the ground "outside" the walls. This is spiritual imagery: literally we go to Christ "outside the camp" while the false religionists continue to occupy temples with priests and performing mediators.

When the Middle Walls of the Temple are broken down, the Temple still stands: it is the body of Christ and those who expose the "stones" or "members" of the body of Christ to that which is defiled commits spiritual adultery. Only those who have been washed are free to "come boldly before the throne of grace" without a separated priest.

However, the new "Gentiles" are outside of the temple:

But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. Re.11:2

The new Temple is the church, the body of Christ. Each member of Christ's body is a stone by which the temple is built. In the image of the middle wall coming down this still excluded all who were not members of the body of Christ. Whatever the image means, the saved are inside of the walls and those not converted to Christ are on the outside:

AND there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. Rev 11:1

But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. Re.11:2

And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Rev 21:10

Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; Rev 21: 11

And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: Rev 21: 12

On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. Rev 21: 13

And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. Rev 21: 14

And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lambs book of life. Rev 21: 27

Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; Eph 2:19

And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; Eph 2: 20 [The foundation was 'laid by" the Apostles and prophets: the church is not built upon the apostles but upon the gospel and doctrine which they preached to enforce the walls.]

In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: Eph 2: 21

In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit. Eph 2: 22

The Book of the Law was the wall which even divided the common Israelites (strangers) from the Levitical clergy. The clergy "bore the burden" because of sin and their task was to keep the common people outside of the Tabernacle and later Temple walls. By breaking down the interior walls in the temple Jew and Gentile, Male and Female, Slave and Free all could come boldly before the throne. It was the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ Who broke down these walls: He didn't need us then and He will not use us today for that purpose.

This also broke down the barrier betwee clergy and laity and Mike Cope and his wall breakers and new wine peddlers need to have another Restoration Movement, get out of the pulpits and go into all the world and preach that "core" gospel they talk so much about. But when collecting all of the "at loose ends" from among the denominational world seems much easier we won't hold our breath.

It was not the surrounding wall but the dividing wall in the vineyard which Jesus broke down. A body has a vital wall called the skin: if you break down the barrier of the skin then all kinds of wild beasts can invade and destroy the body. This wall was in the Greek:

Mesotoichon (g3320) mes-ot'-oy-khon; from 3319 and 5109; a partition (fig.): - middle wall.

The body is still the body of Christ and if all of the world's religions are part of Christ's body then it would be silly for Him to die to separate His disciples from the pagan world -- the sheep from the goats. Yes, we still have to tolerate the "tares" among the "wheat" but we do not have to invite the tare-sowers into the pulpit.

The barrier which remained was the Greek:

Phragmos (g5418) frag-mos'; from 5420; a fence, or inclosing barrier (lit. or fig.): - hedge (round about), partition.

Now, in speaking a parable about Himself, Jesus said that God planted a vineyard and built a barrier around about but without a middle wall:

Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country: Mt.21:33 [Winepresses make the fruit of the vine: not alcohol]

And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it. Mt 21:34

Jesus was still condemning and literally dismissing those who were guilty of breaking down the walls between "God's Vineyard" and the rest of the world's religions.

It comes as prophetic, therefore, based on Isaiah 5 that when we see the new wineskin distortion of the teachings of Jesus it is perhaps God Himself making a fool of some as He did in the New Wineskins parable. Click for the truth about new wineskins.

The Temple as Type

Playing loud NOISE during the slaughter and burning of the TYPE of Christ was called NOISE and never music. Otherwise, the singers and players in and around the temple precincts were PROSTITUTES and SODOMITES.
Most Holy Place: Christ's Presence as Head


Human spirit or mind where we meet God Who IS ONLY Spirit.

ONE priest at a time comes before the throne in darkness and silence.

No Singers or Musicians ever allowed
But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true (truthful) worshippers shall worship the Father
in spirit and in truth:for the Father seeketh such to worship him. John 4:23
For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
No Singers or Musicians ever allowed in the MInd
Holy Place = Church Body of Christ

The "people's Congregation ALWAYS assembled as a form of "synagogue." There was NO PRAISE SERVICE in the synagogue. Worship was NOT in the Synagogue but the Human Spirit all alone GIVING HEED to God's Word.

Incense: Personal Prayers

Menorah: Seven Spirits of Knowledge (Isaiah 11:1-4). "My Word is Spirit and Life" (John 6:63)

Bread: Remberance That Christ is Source of All Life. Showing forth or PREACHING the death of Christ IN THE PAST with musical mocking by the Levitical warrior musicians.

>>> No Singers or Musicians ever Allowed <<<
Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice. Ps.141:2
Jamison-Fausett-Brown Revelation 8 notes that:
"In the Jewish temple, musical instruments and singing resounded during the whole time of the offering of the sacrifices, which formed the first part of the service.
But at the offering of incense, solemn silence was kept ("My soul waiteth upon God," Ps 62:1; "is silent," Margin; Ps 65:1, Margin),
Duwmiyyah (h1747) doo-me-yaw'; from 1819; stillness; adv. silently; abstr. quiet, trust: - silence, silent, waiteth.
the people praying secretly all the time. The half-hour stillness implies, too, the earnest adoring expectation with which the blessed spirits and the angels await the succeeding unfolding of God's judgments. A short space is implied; for even an hour is so used (Re 17:12 18:10,19).
Only Priests Enter

The Laver

The Altar
Court: World outside of the Holy Places
Slaughter and Consuming of TYPE of Christ.
Levitical "singers and musicians" made NOISE and not "music."
Not among the Jews nor the VILEST pagan temples did the MUSICIANS ever enter into the Holy Place (church) or Most Holy Place (where we MEET God). 
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. Heb.4:16

The Laver
But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. Gal 3:25
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. Gal 3:26
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. Gal 3:27
The Altar

Fulfilled type that Clergy and Judas would try to TRIUMPH OVER Jesus with "instruments and making a joyful noise before the Lord."
Court of Women

Where the Levites stood to "praise the KING" more than to praise the Lord. Praise means to "make a fool of yourself." Therefore, most temple courts had acrobats, clowns, mimes and all kinds of secular entertainment like the Feast of Tabernacles as a FERTILITY RITUAL and TALENT SHOW Jesus knew to be the place the Jews would be looking for THEIR MESSIAH to kill him. Around Jerusalem the SINGERS and PLAYERS were usually prostitutes or Sodomites.

Jesus is coming again and if He finds His vineyard consumed by briars and wild beasts the "watchman on the wall" will give an accounting just as they did in Israel.

For it is a day of trouble, and of treading down, and of perplexity by the Lord God of hosts in the valley of vision,

breaking down the walls,
and of crying to the mountains. Isaiah 22:5

See the ZOE GROUP which represents looking to the hills or crying to the mountain "gods" to save them.

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