Another Summit has come and gone. It occupied my time almost totally for three and a half days, and has now moved into the history journals and mind’s memory. I am now back home and facing the never ending story of farm life in rural Texas. Each year I attend Summit, which was the outgrowth of the old ACU Bible Lectureship, and I come away feeling like I have been to the summit of a mountain and actually come just a little closer to God. It is a place to be challenged spiritually and mentally.
1Timothy 2:5 For there is one God,
and one mediator between God and men,
the man Christ Jesus;
The masses of we disciples agree with history that the religious-sexual connection existed even in the Garden of Eden. Lucifer was called by Christ "the singing and har-playing prostitute" in the garden. All paganism profiteered on selling the idea that the "feeling" they generated was a god or demon INSIDE of them.
Because people always speak of USING women they agree that wives and mothers can be on public display where it is an absolute fact that the giving heed to or worship is of the female. Paul and recorded history PROTECTED wives and daughters. The notion that the mistreated them by refusing to let them be a "gazing stock" (theatron) is obscene within itself.
"I have often seen a man (actor)-- and have been amazed to see,
and the amazement has ended in contempt,
to think how he is one thing internally,
but outwardly counterfeits what he is not--
giving himself excessive airs of daintiness and indulging in all sorts of effeminacy;
somethines darting his eyes about;
sometimes throwing his hands hither and thither,
and raving with his face smeared with mud (sweat, spit and dust);
sometimes personating Aphrodite (female), sometimes Apollo (male);
a solitary accuser of all the gods, an epitome of
superstition, a vituperator of heroic deeds, an actor of murders, a chronicler of adultery,
a storehouse of madness, a teacher of cynaedi,
an instigator of capital sentences;--
and yet such a man is praised by all.
But I have rejected all his falsehoods, his impiety, his practices,--in short, the man althogether.
But you are led captive by such men,
while you revile those who do not take a part in your pursuits.
I have no mind to stand agape at a number of singers,
nor do I desire to be affected in sympathy with
a man when he is winking and gesticulating in an unnatural manner."...
"Why should I admire the mythic piper...
We leave you to these worthless things;
and do you believe our doctrines,
or, like us, give up yours." (Tatian to the Greeks, Ante-Nicene, Vol. II, p. 75).
A place to be challenged by having the walls of our boxes battered down a little
by new ideas and a place to have the old traditions
that are good brought up to the present while having
the old traditions that are not so good moved a little farther into the past
while new traditions are birthed in the process.
Maybe even more important, it is a place where us older generations,
who are worn down by life’s events and challenges,
who are wondering how the church and the world will continue
on as we slowly become less able to fight the battles of life,
can come into contact with the generation that is about to and eager to meet life’s events and challenges head on.
Strange that the Church of Christ has existed under that name for these two thousand years and the universal testimony is that Paul was speaking as an inspired Apostle. For those who understand the meaning of CHURCH there simply are no ROLES or DOLES for any kindo of theological operative. The command was/is to PREACH the Word by READING the Word. Jesus warned that doctors of the law--theologians--take away the key to knowledge.
Maybe Wiley is premature in thinking that the gender thingy will not be perverted in his lifetime. Wiley etal simply have to call all of Scripture and most church historians liars just now being gradually enlightened by those who know how to BOIL A FROG.
And Speaking of Bowing To Baal we should remember that Jesus identified the MEN of that age just CHILDREN: as they PIPED they hoped to force Jesus and others to BOW DOWN to be initiated into the gay brotherhood; all religioushoods have been so afflicted.
Esaias also crieth concerning Israel,
Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea,
a remnant shall be saved: Ro.9:27
For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea,
yet a remnant of them shall return:
the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness. Isa 10:22
But what saith the answer of God unto him?
I have reserved to myself seven thousand men,
who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. Ro.11:4
Kataleipo (g2641) kat-al-i'-po; from 2596 and 3007; to leave down, i.e. behind; by impl. to abandon, have remaining: - forsake, leave, reserve.
Anat Anat is the sister and probably the consort of the god Baal. She was known as the goddess of love (i.e., sensuality)34 and war. 35 It was through her prowess that Mot was defeated and Baal raised to life again. She is regarded in the texts as beautiful--a fact corroborated by her epithet, "maiden"--but her disposition is quarrelsome and driven. Coogan summarizes her character well:
The only goddess with a vivid character is Anat. She is Baal's wife and sister, and is closely identified with him as a source of fertility and a successful opponent of the forces of chaos; like Baal she lives on a mountain. Her fierce temper is directed against the gods and mortals alike, and with her thirst for violence and her macabre trappings--a necklace of human heads, a belt of human hands--Anat has been compared to the Hindu goddess Kali.36
Anath: This Canaanite Goddess' name means 'to answer' and may be related to the Akkadian word ettu meaning 'active will.160' She was a major deity all over the western parts of the Near East, including Egypt where she was later considered to be the same Goddess as Libyan Neith. Titles for her include Belet'net 'virgin Anath,' 'Nethebely161 'the destroyer,' and Yebemet-limm 'widow of the nation(?)'162. Her worship extended from the 2nd millenium BCE deep into the Hellenistic Age, when it began to be forced underground. Like the original Athena, she ruled battle, the hunt, and the passage of souls from one world to the next. She was also a Death Goddess who wore the goatskin aegis -- or at least, the Egyptians attributed Neith's aegis to her. This sacred garment has been described as a cloak, apron, breastplate, or shield. In Anath's case, it shifted in function as religious ceremony changed. Originally it was probably a garment worn by each Libyan woman when she came of age, made of cloth and marked SNAKES with and Moon symbols, or made of many braids of string.
Later it was remade, parts of its feminine symbolism removed and turned into a garment worn during animal sacrifices. Then it was decorated with severed penises, representing both types of death men experience, loss of erection and the ending of their lives.
As Anath's image was melded into that of the Minoan Bird Goddess, the penises became snakes again, and the aegis a cloak. The result helped to effectively concealed Athena's ancient Libyan origins while unwittingly reintroducing some of the older symbols. The sacred rite in which Anath's consort, represented by the last of the grain harvest, died during the ritual of the last sheaf's reaping and division into food and seed was cut out altogether. Such drastic action was required to further match her to Libyan Athena, who consorted with no man unless she wished to conceive a child by other than parthenogenetic means. Conversely, Anath was never associated with giving birth unless she had taken an animal form.
Anath was a famous warrior and powerful protector, a sort of 'ultimate woman' in a way somewhat analogous to Athena's early Greek role163. She was worshipped by many Israelites, who considered their god her consort, and was frequently mentioned in Ugaritic texts. The Phoenicians also adored her, naming settlements for her. One of them was called Panorma by the Greeks, connecting her to their 'universal mountain mother' Gaea or Rhea. [ZOE]
Anath (h6067) an-awth'; from 6030; answer; Anath, an Isr.: - Anath.
Anan (h6049) aw-nan'; a prim. root; to cover; used only as denom. from 6051, to cloud over; fig. to act covertly, i. e. practise magic: - * bring, enchanter, Meonemin, observe (-r of) times, soothsayer, sorcerer.
Anan (h6051) aw-nawn'; from 6049; a cloud (as covering the sky), i. e. the nimbus or thunder-cloud: - cloud (-y). Anammelek (h6048) an-am-meh'-lek; of for. or.; Anammelek, an Assyrian deity: - Anammelech.
There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, De.18:10
Anan (h6049) aw-nan'; a prim. root; to cover; used only as denom. from 6051, to cloud over; fig. to act covertly, i. e. practise magic: - * bring, enchanter, Meonemin, observer of times, soothsayer, sorcerer.
Anag (h6026) aw-nag'; a prim. root; to be soft or pliable, i. e. effeminate or luxurious: - delicate, delight self, sport self.
Anan (h6051) aw-nawn'; from 6049; a cloud (as covering the sky), i. e. the nimbus or thunder-cloud: - cloud (-y). Anammelek (h6048) an-am-meh'-lek; of for. or.; Anammelek, an Assyrian deity: - Anammelech.
A god worshiped by the Sepharvites in Samaria under the Assyrian régime, along with the god Adrammelech (II Kings, xvii. 31). Anu was the chief of the old Babylonian trinity, Anu, Bel, and Ea;
It is a generation that is now just coming into the young adult world as they prepare to enter it with advanced studies and degrees, with strong ideals, new ideas, and a strong faith with an even stronger drive to grow in that faith to become closer to God.
Most churches of Christ will not be seeking any once-Christian college which has exalted itself to being an university. You can betcha that no Disciples of Christ or Christian Church would be INCLUSIVE enough to let me just READ the text in context.
Theology ranks right up there with Phrenology and I can assure you that any competent disciple of Christ (only) knows that men like Cukrowski just throws out a bunch of fragments and then follows the avowed pattern of postmodernism: take liberty to write YOURSELF and your views into the text.
I can see God’s hands more clearly on the future when I see these young adults, talk to them one on one, and listen to them as they prepare to meet the world head on at high speed.
Well, Darn, Edward Fudge and apparently Cukrowski can see BEYOND THE SACRED PAGE. The old obsolete Jesus said that is a lie:
Luke 10:22 All things are delivered to me of my Father:
and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father;
and who the Father is, but the Son,
and he to whom the Son will reveal him.
John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do:
for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
II had the pleasure of meeting one young lady who was entering the ACU Graduate School of Theology to study for an M.Div. Her father, a well known minister,
told one assembly of about two thousand listeners
that he had four sons and only one daughter and his daughter had more ministry ability
in the tip of her little finger than all of the males in the family put together!
A person trained in Theology will NEVER be allowed to read BLACK text on BROWN paper. Jesus said that the Scribes and Pharisees were HYPOCRITES: in Ezekiel 33 he named speakers, singers and instrument players.
Paul promises that those who so tamper with the Word will be sent strong delusions so that they be damned. Lying wonders identifies all of the hypocritic arts and crafts such as theological speakers, singers, instrument players and actors.
1Peter 4:11 If any man speak,
let him speak as the oracles of God;
if any man minister,
let him do it as of the ability which God giveth:
that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ,
to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Summit is all of that and much, much more for me.
When Summit opened its doors to speakers and teachers outside the Church of Christ,
something Lectureship never did,
we felt the fresh air sucking into the vacum that is created in a closed setting.
It’s like a fire in a closed up structure. Anyone who has ever been a firefighter knows that when a structure is closed up fairly tightly and a fire starts, as the fire grows it sucks the oxygen out of the interior of the structure.
The fire can be wide spread in the structure without ever being a brightly burning fire.
When a door is kicked open, the inrush of oxygen causes a huge fire to erupt very quickly.
It’s like blowing on the embers of a campfire after adding a pile of very dry twigs and branches on top and watching the fire grow out of the coals as oxygen is blown onto the coals.
God never said it better: all of the INSTRUMENTAL passages are the MARK of God driving His enemies into hell to the sounds of wind, string and percussion instruments.
Calling down Gods "holy" fire: Malachi knew about ACU, Ken Cukrowski, Mark Hamilton, and James Thompson when he asked: "who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a REFINER'S FIRE, and like FULLER'S SOAP: Malachi 3:2 (To Wash). The concept of HOLY FIRE has meaning ONLY in connection with CONSUMING those who refuse to approach God with reverence and Godly fear. Those who PEDDLE or "retail" the Word which they do not believe are enemies of Christ.THE MARK OF THE MUSICAL WORSHIP MINISTER: APOLLO OR APOLLYON
Malachi 3 defines music as marks of Sorcerers when Messiah came.
Malachi 4 defines the "baptism" of Spirit (Wind) and Fire for this Viper Race.
The Fire That Consumes The Fire starter or Musical Minister(ess) for Apollo, Abaddon, Apollyon: "Hell" was just outside of Jerusalem: maybe coming to a church near you.
Mark 9 the Worm that Dieth Not. What if it turns out that this identifies the Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites or maggots who live off those already spiritually dead because of being shut out of the kingdom by all of the performing arts intending to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter. Believe it: all sacrificial musicians were callled "parasites" and the heretic was the priest who "lifted them up to cut their throats" made dumb before the slaughter.
Of the IGNIS who are CALLING DOWN GOD'S FIRES with songs:
-Incentor, I. one who sets the tune or begins to sing, a precentor, singer (post-class.).I. Lit.: “carminis,” Paul. Nol. Carm. 15, 32: “incentore canam Phoebo Musisque magistris,” Avien. Perieg. 895; Isid. 6, 9, 13.—II. Trop., an inciter, exciter: “igneus turbarum,” Amm. 15, 1, 2: “civilis belli,” Oros. 5, 19: “rebellionis totius,”
-Phoebus , i, m., = Phoibos (the radiant),I. a poetical appellation of Apollo as the god of light: “quae mihi Phoebus Apollo Praedixit,” Verg. A. 3, 251; Hor. C. S. 62; Prop. 1, 2, 27.—Poet. for the sun: “dum rediens fugat astra Phoebus,” Hor. C. 3, 21, 24: “Phoebi pallidus orbis,” Ov. R. Am. 256; id. M. 2, 110: “tristior iccirco nox est, quam tempora Phoebi,” id. R. Am. 585.—Hence,A. Phoe-bēĭus , a, um, adj., Phœbean, Apollinean: “juvenis,” i. e. Æsculapius, Stat. S. 3, 4, 6: “anguis,” of Æsculapius, Ov. M. 15, 742: “ictus,” of the sun, id. ib. 5, 389: ales, the raven, so called because metamorphosed by Apollo, Stat. S. 2, 4, 17: “oscen,” Aus. Idyll. 11, 15: “Idmon,” son of Phœbus, Val. Fl. 1, 228: “Circe,” daughter of Sol, Petr. 135.—B. Phoe-bēus , a, um, adj., Phœbean, Apollinean: “carmina,” Lucr. 2, 504: “lampas,” the sun, Verg. A. 4, 6: “virgo,” Daphne, Ov. P. 2, 2, 82: “laurus,” id. Tr. 4, 2, 51: “Rhodos,” where the worship of Apollo prevailed, id. M. 7, 365: “lyra,” id. H. 16, 180: “sortes,” oracle, id. M. 3, 130: “tripodes,” id. A. A. 3, 789: “Phoebeā morbos pellere arte,” id. F. 3, 827.—
Because SINGING as an ACT was not added until the pagans filled the church offices about the year 400, McClintock and Strong say that the PRECENTER or song leader was "THE FIRST HERESY LARGELY PERVADING THE CHURCH."
Ignis A. (Mostly poet.) The fire or glow of passion, in a good or bad sense; of anger, rage, fury:
raving, inspiration, Stat. Ach. 1, 509: “quae simul aethereos animo conceperat ignes, ore dabat pleno carmina vera dei, B. Figuratively of that which brings destruction, fire, flame: “quem ille obrutum ignem (i. e. bellum) reliquerit,” Liv. 10, 24, 13:Ignĕus , a, um, adj. id., I. of fire, fiery, on fire, burning, burning-hot (cf.: fervidus, calidus).I. Lit.: “sidera tota esse ignea,” Cic. N. D. 2, 15, 40; cf. “sol,” Verg. G. 4, 426: “arces (i. e. caelum),” Hor. C. 3, 3, 10: “ignea vis caeli,” ether, Ov. M. 1, 26: ignea vis, fire, as one of the primary elements, acc. to Heraclitus, Cic. N. D. 3, 14, 35: “Aetne,” Ov. M. 15, 341: “Chimaera,” Hor. C. 2, 17, 13: “aestas,” id. ib. 1, 17, 2: “ardor,” of fire, Auct. Her. 4, 33, 44: “celeritas, motus,” Cic. N. D. 2, 9, 24.—B. Transf., of color, fiery, flaming, resplendent: “gemmae igneo colore fulgentes,” Plin. 8, 38, 57, § 137: “purpura,” Val. Fl. 1, 427: “cingula gemmis,” Stat. Th. 12, 527.—Turba I.a turmoil, hubbub, uproar, disorder, tumult, commotion, disturbance, of a crowd of people. Putting a people in confusion (the change process), seditious“incentore canam Phoebo Musisque magistris,
Resono to resound or echo of an orator, give back the sound of, to resound or re-echo, musico, Musicus singing, sounding of the citharae, a musician, poetry. mousikôs: musice hercle agitis aetatem, you are in clover, i. e. living luxuriously at another's expense, “arbusta cicadis,” id. E. 2, 13.Incensor one who kindles or sets fire, an inciter, instigation of discord
echoes to the voice, Hor. S. 1, 4, 76; cf.: carmina resonantia chordis Romanis, to the strings,
B. Canto: I. Neutr., to produce melodious sounds (by the voice or an instrument), to sound, sing, play
A. Incentor one who sets the tun or begins to sing, a precentor.
2. Of the singing pronunciation of an orator, to declaim in a singing tone, to sing, drawl
C. Hence, because the oracles were of old uttered in verse,
of any mysterious, prophetic, or warning utterance, to predict, warn, point out,
indicate, make known, say: vera cantas?
III. In the lang. of religion, as v. n. or a., to use enchantments, charms, incantations,
to enchant, to charm, cantata Luna, exorcised by magic, ignis,
B. To call forth, produce by charms: et chelydris cantare soporem,
Dr. Brady Bryce, Summit Director, has done an excellent job of building the fire of spiritual growth and creating a
desire to look at the old in fresh new ways
to see where we can move forward,
keep what is tried and true,
and shed what is old and dead,
like a rattlesnake crawling out of its old dried out skin
with faded color and immerging with a fresh new skin that is brightly colored.
A rattlesnake just out of its skin is still a rattlesnake and the SERPENT'S BITE has the same meaning as STRIKING (psallo) an instrument because the intention was to FLEECE the lambs. Women were always the best at collecting money.Women uncovered prophesiers (1 Corinthians 11) thought that they were MEDIATORS. Paul told them if they needed to know anything he would write them a letter. That is why Paul silenced the women in Corinth ABSOLUTELY to prevent the female musical prophesiers from slipping in..
Eve is mentioned only twice in the New Testament and because Jesus spoke in parables to HIDE the truth from the WISE (sophists=rhetoricians, singers, musicians, actors). Moses was writing an INVERTED version of Babylon Myths AFTER the nation fell from grace BECAUSE of instrumental idolatry at Mount Sinai. Therefore, those who mock Paul do not understand that Paul knew all about Eve and scholars know nothing. While not necessarily true, Paul understood that women especially looked to EVE (Zoe, Mary) as THEIR Mediatrix.A Serpent by any other color can still give you the strike of death.Click The serpents, however, of the magicians-(that is,) the gods of destruction-withstood the power of Moses in Egypt, but the rod of Moses reduced them all to subjection and slew them. This universal SERPENT is, he says, the wise discourse of Eve. This, he says, is the mystery of Edem, this the river of Edem;this the mark that was set upon Cain, [from a musical note]Theophilus to Autolycus
that any one who findeth him might not kill him. This, he says, is Cain, [Gen. iv. 15] whose sacrifice [Gen. iv. 5. ] the god of this world did not accept.
This Eve, on account of her having been in the beginning deceived by the SERPENT, and become the author of sin, the wicked demon, who also is called Satan, who then spoke to her through the serpent, and who works even to this day in those men that are possessed by him, invokes as Eve. And he is called "demon" and "dragon," on account of his revolting from God. For at first he was an angel. And concerning his history there is a great deal to be said; wherefore I at present omit the relation of it, for I have also given an account of him in another place.
Referring to the bacchanalian ORGIES [wrath] in which " Eva " was shouted, and which the Fathers professed to believe was an unintentional invocation of Eve, the authoress of all sin.
The word "abomination" is also key to understanding the context. In Hebrew, the word "to 'evah," (abomination) is almost invariably linked to idolatry. In the passages from which both verses are taken, God tells Moses to tell the people not to follow the idolatrous practices of the people around them, people who sacrificed their children to Molech, or who masturbated into the fire to offer their semen to Molech, for example. Chapter 20 starts off with the same warning."To 'evah" also means "something which is ritually unclean."
They rashly assume in this manner, that whatsoever things have been said and done by all men, (may be made to harmonize) with their own particular mental view, alleging that ALL things become spiritual. Whence likewise they assert, that those exhibiting themselves in theatres,not even these say or do anything without premeditation.
Therefore, he says, when, on the people assembling in the theatres, any one enters clad in a remarkable robe, carrying a harp and playing a tune (upon it, accompanying it) with a song of the great mysteries, he speaks as follows, not knowing what he says:
"Whether (thou art) the race of Saturn (Satans) or happy Jupiter, or mighty Rhea (ZOE, Eve), Hail, Attis, gloomy mutilation of Rhea. Assyrians style thee thrice-longed-for Adonis, and the whole of Egypt (calls thee) Osiris, celestial horn of the moon; [The bull, Apis, at Sinai] Greeks denominate (thee) Wisdom; Samothracians, venerable Adam; Haemonians, Corybas; and them Phrygians (name thee) at one time Papa, at another time Corpse, or God, or Fruitless, or Aipolos, or green Ear of Corn that has been reaped, or whom the very fertile Amygdalus produced-a man, a musician."
This, he says, is multiform Attis, whom while they celebrate in a hymn, they utter these words:
On account of these and such like reasons, these constantly attend the mysteries called those of the "Great Mother,"supposing especially that they behold by means of the ceremonies performed there the entire mystery. [Moved into the presence of the gods with music]"I will hymn Attis, son of Rhea, not with the buzzing sounds of trumpets, or of Idaean pipers, which accord with (the voices of) the Curetes; but I will mingle (my song) with Apollo's music of harps, evoe, evan, ' inasmuch as thou art Pan, as thou art Bacchus, as thou art shepherd of brilliant stars."
For these have nothing more than the ceremonies that are performed there, except that they are not emasculated:they merely complete the work of the emasculated.
For with the utmost severity and vigilance they enjoin (on their votaries) to abstain, as if they were emasculated, from intercourse with a woman. The rest, however, of the proceeding (observed in these mysteries), as we have declared at some length, (they follow) just as (if they were) emasculated persons. And they do not worship any other object but Naas, (from thence) being styled Naasseni.
But Naas is the serpent from whom, i.e., from the word Naas, (the Naassene) says, are all that under heaven are denominated temples (Naos). And (he states) that to him alone-that is, Naas-is dedicated every shrine and every initiatory rite, and every mystery; and, in general, that a religious ceremony could not be discovered under heaven, in which a temple (Naos) has no existence; and in the temple itself is Naas, from whom it has received its denomination of temple (Naos)
Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old SERPENT, called the Devil,
and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:
he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Revelation 18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters,
shall be heard no more at all in thee;
and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee;
and the sound of a millstone [marked the location of the prostitute] shall be heard no more at all in thee;
Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee;
and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride [heirosn gamos ]shall be heard no more at all in thee:
for thy merchants were the great men of the earth;
for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
My study track this year was, of course, gender equality and inclusivity in the church. DUH! as I have heard children say occasionally.
The CODE WORDS such as gender equality or INCLUSIVITY in the church is always intended to claim that women have no role in the historic Church of Christ. That is a lie: by using the slander word they hope is to suck you into the notion that if WOMEN are not allowed to PREACH then you are evil. In the Synagogue only the Reader--such as Jesus--stood up to read. He then SAT DOWN decently and in order for any discussion. That is the PATTERN from the wilderness onward.
The lack of gender equality in the Churches of Christ has been, is, and will continue to be, my prime interest at Summit.
Rick Atckley boasts that they took the youth to such "workshops of evil in Ezekiel's words" and exposed them to great Christian Bands: we taught them to LEAVE OUR MOVEMENT. Wiley seems 'thused that he is endorising the frog boiling process it took Rick Atchley about 10 years to complete. Listen to Wiley confess the evil.
Summit dove into the discussion two years ago with a class track the first year
that I felt was somewhat limited based on the importance of the discussion.
However, each year they added to the class track on gender,
becoming more indepth,
more challenging of the old traditions,
more thought provoking,
and more attendance drawing.
To call obeying the direct commands in the Bible and most recorded history and rejecting the bad experiences when the males come under the MOTHER GODDESSES just "tradition" is the same lie the use about the use of instruments. It is a fact that very few churches will be mislead by the utterly false proof texts and all of the sowing of discord will just get more fodder for the "lake of Fire" Christ promised for those in Isaiah 33.
This year, each day started with a class by Dr. Everett Ferguson,
the voice of traditionalsim and conservatism.
I am quite Certain that Dr. Ferguson taught the BIBLICAL FACTS about gender. To call that traditionalism and conservatism has Wiley confess that he does NOT intend to follow Jesus who pronounced the CENI over and over.
Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying,Wiley would say that the fact that Jesus did not appoint any females or teach other than what Paul teaches--and Cukrowski denies--had a statute of limitations. Now, in OUR enlightened culture we can read BEYOND THE SACRED PAGES. The Spirit OF Christ defined the future church both INCLUSIVELY and EXCLUSIVELY.
All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name [SINGULAR] of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you:
and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Isaiah 59:15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey:
and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.
Isaiah 59:16 And he saw that there was no man,
and wondered that there was no intercessor:
therefore his arm brought salvation unto him;
and his righteousness, it sustained him.
Isaiah 59:17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate,
and an helmet of salvation upon his head;
and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke.
Isaiah 59:18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries,
recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence.
Isaiah 59:19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west,
and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood,
the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.
Isaiah 59:20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.
Isaiah 59:21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD;
My spirit that is upon thee,
and my words which I have put in thy mouth,
shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed,
nor out of the mouth of thy seed’s seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.
Now, if you don’t know who Dr. Ferguson is, he is a highly respected professor at the ACU Graduate School of Theology. I have a couple of his books, one of which is 900 pages of very tiny font! He is a scholar.
He is also very traditional in his approach to women in the church
and holds to the belief that women are to be silent in the worship,
cannot be in any form of leadership,
and God places men ahead of women in these areas.
It is a man’s responsibility given by God.
Everett presented the standard traditional theological point of view for his beliefs.
That's exactly what Paul said and Wiley denies. There is no way to get Paul to say what he did not say nor what Bible scholars have always taugtht. To get to the Gender Leaders you have to declare that the writers of the Bible were just liars. In which case no male nor female has any right to take money from a hard working honest person to support them while they perform as ANTIchrists.
It wasn’t anything we haven’t already heard in most churches in the past
but I believe it was important that this point of view be presented
because it established a point of reference
for everyone who would stay for the next class by Dr. Ken Cukrowski.
Ken Cukrowski simply listed some verses but DID NOT grasp the text.
Ferguson tried to say that women could probably be used more than they are but he did not present any concrete ways to do so. It was the same old same old.
Dr. Ken Cukrowski, also a respected member of the ACU Graduate School of Theology,
presented the opposing view of gender
in the church which is that God does not limit service based on gender.
Of course, the gender spinters are interested in PREPARING and USING women in the church for which there is NO ROLE and NO DOLE.
This is now being commonly referred to as the Gender Inclusive or Biblical Egalitarian point of view in the Churches of Christ.
It would be a big fat lie to call it BIBLICAL EGALITARIANISM.
Ken did an excellent job in his presentations.
They were very informative with solid scriptural backing
and sound theological reasoning for their side.
They would have been very new ideas to some
who may have been entering the gender discussion for the first time
KEN CUKROWSKI: First, the problems are specifically related to gender; the men have some specific problems, and the women have some specific problems. Second, the men's difficulties regard anger and quarreling, and the women's difficulties regard modesty.
The word wrath or orge means ORGY: orgies defines the pagan rituals common in all of the areas of Paul's writings. Tom Burgess in all of the PLUCKING proof texts lift passages speaking of older males plucking the harp trying to seduce a younger males. The Jews tried that on Jesus by PIPING trying to get him to lament and dance while being initiated into the gay brotherhood:
The tensions which led to the Jewish revolt were exacerbated when the Jewish high priest, a Hellenist himself, offered a sacrifice to Heracles (Hercules) who was a Greek symbol of homosexuality. Riley adds,'The Jewish temple itself became the scene of pagan sacrificial meals and sexual orgies [including homosexuality].' The final insult (for which Antiochus is identified in the Bible as the archtype of the antichrist)'was the installation in the temple of a pagan symbol, possibly a representation of Zeus [Baal], called by a sardonic pun 'the abomination of desolation'' (ibid.:16).
See Second Maccabees to see how Heracles fit into the Abomination of Desolation in the Jerusalem Temple. This was a devotion to music and homosexuality which drove most of the true Israelites out of the country.Slipping mentrual fluids into the holy places was believed to work MAGIC: moon blood. That was the meaning of the Agapae which Christians tried to defuse by having evangelists like Timothy work so that he could feed men on their way to work: that's called ministry.
Greeks considered madness an important aspect of worship. Women in particular responded to Bacchus (also known as Dionysus), the god of madness; 'him of the orgiastic cry, exciter of women, Dionysus, glorified with mad honors'. (Plutarch, Moralia 671c) Ancient Corinth was a center of Dionysiac worship, and Pausinius, world traveler of the second century of our era gives this description:
But in my time it was devoted to the worship of Dionysus. This Dionysus they call Melpomenus (Minstrel), on the same principle as they call Apollo Musegetes (Leader of the Muses). Here there are images of Athena Paeonia (Healer), of Zeus, of Mnemosyne (Memory) and of the Muses, an Apollo, the votive offering and work of Eubulides, and Acratus, a daemon attendant upon Apollo; it is only a face of him worked into the wall.
In the market-place, for most of the temples are there, is the Ephesian Artemis, and there are two wooden statues of Dionysus, gilt except the faces, which are painted with red paint, one they call Lysian Dionysus and the other Dionysus the Reveler. The tradition about these statues I will record. Pentheus, they say, when he outraged dionysus, among other acts of reckless daring actually at last went to mount Cithaeron to spy on the women, and climbed up into a tree to see what they were doing; and when they detected him, they forthwith dragged him down, and tore him limb from limb. And afterwards, so they say at Corinth, the Pythian priestess told them to discover that tree and pay it divine honors. And that is why these statues are made of that very wood. (Description of Greece, II.ii; tr. A.R. Shilleto)
The musical idolatry modern theologians (not disciples) are trying to force peaceable Churches of Christ was UNIQUELY a female problem
but Ken’s ability at presenting these theological views left no one behind, and provided even new comers a good basic understanding of what the inclusivity/egalitarian side believes Scripture,
while also providing some of us old time biblical egalitarians an even better understanding of Scripture.
Of course, I take the view that the gender inclusive/egalitarian view is how God expects us to be in the church and that we MUST change if we are to survive the next century. At almost 64 years old, I don’t imagine I will live to see a culmination of what we are working toward.
I have no doubt that some changes will occur because of the eternal sexual power points in all pagan religions. Men are to PREVENT wrath or an outbreak of ORGY. That would be defined as the arena where only female and effeminate males would perform;
Orgi-a , iôn, ta,
A. secret rites, secret worship, practised by the initiated, a post-Hom. word ; used of the worship of Demeter at Eleusis, h.Cer.273,476. Ar.Ra.386, Th.948 ; of the rites of the Cabeiri and Demeter Achaia, Hdt.2.51,5.61; of Orpheus, Id.2.81; of Eumolpus, App.Anth.1.318 ; of Cybele, E.Ba.78 (lyr.): most freq. of the rites of Dionysus, Hdt.2.81, E.Ba.34, al., Theoc.26.13.
II. generally, rites, sacrifices, SIG57.4 (Milet., v B. C.), A.Th.179 (lyr.), S.Tr.765, Ant.1013 ; orgia Mousôn Ar.Ra.356
2. metaph., mysteries, without reference to religion, epistêmês Hp.Lex5 ; tois tês Aphroditês o. eilêmmenon Ar.Lys.832 , cf. Ach.Tat.4.1; ta Epikourou theophanta o. Metrod.38 .--The sg. orgion is rare, Jahresh.13Beibl.29 No.3 (Erythrae, iv B. C.), Luc.Syr.D.16, Orph.H.52.5. (Prob. cogn. with erdô, rhezô, cf. ergon, orgeôn.)
God has his own time frame for everything. The other classes on gender I attended were just as good. Several classes were presented by women ministers from the Christian Church DoC. The women who taught the classes I attended all left the Churches of Christ in order to be able to become pulpit ministers and fullfill the calling they had heard from God, and to be able to use the gifts he had given them. They were definitly gifted! They were excellent speakers and very thought provoking, touching on the personal lives of women in ministry.
No: that is the time frame for men working for the Disciples of Christ to try to suck churches of Christ into their denomiation.
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