Tom Moulder Tradition Versus Mission

Elders who teach false doctrine are wolves: their authority is to "teach that which has been taught" and let people watch the outcome of their lives: they have no authority other than that. Godly men (males) should not be intimidated by the Rick Atchley that you should not question the move of the elders.  People decide WHOM they will follow and whom they can trust with their money.  People who chase out the owners are robbers of temples and Christ give you authority to stand up and tell them to resign.

I will review Tom Moulder's quite upset comments that the church decided to VOTE with or without the elder's permission and insists on challenging the


Prior to coming to Heritage in 2009, they were part of a small group that planted a church in Flower Mound that was sponsored by the Richland Hills Church of Christ.

This suggests that Heritage Church of Christ has been targeted to be a DAUGHTER of the MOTHER CHURCH under Rick Atchley.

I will review Tom Moulder's quite upset comments that the church decided to VOTE with or without the elder's permission and insists on challenging the "hostile takeover."  The elders BEGAN with Rick Atchley's willingness to argue with three empty chairs. The costume is quite elegant but his stare is quite empty.  Actors are called hypocrites: Christ named self-speakers, actors, singers and instrument players.

Rick Atchley and the Law of Silence.

Rick Atchley says:  “Jesus never deals with the issue.  The ANTI-instrumental advocates must speak where Jesus never did.  You would think He would if this was worth splitting His church over.”

But, that is exactly what Rick Atchley set out to do: you first SPLIT OFF the sorehead owners and replace them with instrumental butterflies. The Purpose Driven cult says that you can loose up to half of the owners and make it profitable by replacing those who love music because it means "to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter.

Musical Worship is Witchcraft and the MARK of the emasculated

Gal 5:12 As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!  

Chrysostom's Commentary on Galatians:
Galatians 5:1.-"With freedom did Christ set us free; stand fast therefore.115 ."
Ver. 12.
"I would that they which unsettle you would even cut themselves off." And he says well "that unsettle you."
"A man that is heretical after the first and second admonition refuse." (Tit. iii: 10) If they will,
let them not only be circumcised, but mutilated.
Where then are those who dare to mutilate themselves; seeing that they draw down the Apostolic curse, and accuse the workmanship of God, and take part with the Manichees? ... But if you will not allow this,
why do you not mutilate the tongue for blasphemy, the hands for rapine, the feet for their evil courses, in short, the whole body?
For the ear enchanted by the sound of a flute hath often enervated the soul;
and the perception of a sweet perfume by the nostrils hath bewitched the mind, and made it frantic for pleasure
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Catullus,Carmina 63     Notes
Thy timbrel, Mother Cybele, the firstings of thy rite,
And as her tender finger-tips on bull-back hollow rang
She rose a-grieving and her song to listening comrades sang.

"Up Gallae, hie together, haste for Cybele's deep grove,
Hie to the Dindymnean dame, ye flocks that love to rove;
The which affecting stranger steads as bound in exile's brunt
My sect pursuing led by me have nerved you to confront

The raging surge of salty sea and ocean's tyrant hand
As your hate of Venus' [ZOE] hest your
manly forms unmann'd,
Gladden your souls, ye mistresses, with sense of error bann'd.
Drive from your spirits dull delay, together follow ye
To hold of Phrygian goddess, home of Phrygian Cybebe,
Where loud the cymbal's voice resounds with timbrel-echoes blending,
And where the Phrygian piper drones grave bass from reed a-bending,

Where toss their ivy-circled heads with might the Maenades
Where ply mid shrilly lullilooes the holiest mysteries,
Where to fly here and there be wont the she-god's vaguing train,
Thither behoves us lead the dance in quick-step hasty strain."


Tom Moulder: Tradition Versus Mission 6.21.13

There is no sweet way to say that those who say NOT using musical instruments in The School of Christ is Just a TRADITON: a Satanic barrier is just flat lying to God and about God.   The World had to await the Christian Churches (Tom's mentors) until 1878 to decide that IF they needed authority for their SELF-WILL and WILL-WORSHIP they would use the PSALLO word.  Psallo has no musical content and when men pluck on harp strings in recorded history they are trying to seduce a young male whose hairs had been plucked.  Paul hoped the troubles would go all the way and EMASCULATE themselves.

Tom Moulder: We want to follow God's Word.  I want everyone to be better servants of God
We spent so much time discussing it the first of the year,  your leadership  knew that it was going to take a change in everyone's heart to recognize mission at Heritage: All we talk about is Instrumental music.

Well, darn, darn, darn: if you had ever read Genesis or Revelation and that sandwitdhed between you would know that God placed ugly bookends so that even simple simons could not be mistaken.


Businessman Sandwiched Between Sumo Wrestlers

Tom Moulder: We need to make a change about the Law::  think about, get our heart right, think about the Law we can do it.

This long tradition resulted in split from the Christian Church. The Church of Christ argued that instruments were wrong and therefore we are not in fellowship with  Christian church.

That's utterly false: Churches of Christ were never "united" with the Christian Church which began in 1927 as the NACC using men like Rick Atckley to "transistion" peaceable churches of Christ. Furthermore, any elder APT to teach would understand that vocal or instrumental rejoicing for the assembly is FORBIDDEN by the Law of Christ in the wilderness and by minimal common reverence when Jesus comes to teach ONLY when the elders teach that which has been taught.  Where oh where does Tom Moulder find Jesus Christ teaching anything about music in the assembly for PREACHING the Word by READING the Word for comfort and doctrine.

The Christian church destroyed any fraternal fellowship when they imposed instruments and set out preaching UNITY but intending to confiscate the Church which Tom Moulder did not build. 

The so-called unity was a handshake between a few men from the Christians and the Reformed Baptists in 1932: here is what these few men agreed to with meeting together was very easy before the Christians IMPOSED a denominational structure and instruments as worship which originally said was sin:
H. Leo Boles in 1939

"But an amalgamation of sects is not such a union as Christ prayed for and God enjoins. To agree to be one upon any system of human inventions would be contrary to his will, and could never be a blessing to the church or the world; therefore, the only union practicable or desirable must be based on the word of God as the only rule of faith and practice... 

"I have the more cheerfully resolved on this course, because the gospel is a system of facts, commands, and promises, and no deduction or inference from them, however logical or true, forms any part of the gospel of Jesus Christ. No heaven is promised to those who hold them, and no hell is threatened to those who deny them. They do not constitute, singly or together, an item of the ancient and apostolic gospel. While there is but one faith, there may be ten thousand opinions; and, hence, if Christians are ever to be one, they must be one in faith, and not in opinion. When certain subjects arise, even in conversation or social discussion, about which there is a contrariety of opinion and sensitiveness of feeling, speak of them in the words of the Scripture, and no offense will be given and no pride of doctrine will be encouraged. We may even come, in the end, by thus speaking the same things, to think the same things.

"For several years past I have stood pledged to meet the religious world, or any part of it, on the ancient gospel and order of things as presented in the words of the Book. This is the foundation on which Christians once stood, and on it they can, and ought to, stand again. 

From this I cannot depart to meet any man, or set of men, in the wide world. While, for the sake of peace and Christian union, I have long since waived the public maintenance of any speculation I may hold, yet no one gospel fact, commandment, or promise will I surrender for the world" (Life of Elder John Smith, pages 452-454.)

Alexander Campbell denied there COULD be any unity which meant organizational union BEFORE 1832 and AFTER 1832.  This is one of the foulest lies told intending to make honorable people feel guilty for something done TO them. Godly members will have no fellowship with Tom Molder but it is Tom Mounder who did two things God hates: Music in the holy place and sowing of discord.

Tom Moulder: Traditions pass on from generation to generation.  It might be wrong about what Grandpa thought.

No: that's a falsehood conceiving to deceive.  Members of Churches of Christ have been Bible students forever and were known as The Church of Christ in all historic periods.  None were so irreverent that they thought that there was any role for music in the assembly devoted to the Apostolic Doctrine. Furthermore, even men who wrote on clay tablets KNEW that instrumental sounds created by Cain (from a musical note) had the ability to freak out people, make them fearful and tell them that was A spirit speaking in and through the musical machine. That is why Miriam and the Levites prophesied or were soothsayers or sorcerers using instruments to spook are alarm or triumph over the superstitious.

NOT using "machines for doing hard work" is a tradition  or a deadly VIRUS you caught from your godly grandmother who could repudiate any of the modern "infiltrate and divert preachers" and put them to shame.

Tom Moulder: The shepherds are in unanimous agreement that instrumental music is not a Scripture Issue. Each congregation should make their own decision.

That means two things: the elders are Biblically illiterate or they are under some kind of bondage to appease the MOTHER CHURCH.  That means termilally evil.  Jesus promised STRONG DELUSIONS to people who do not love the truth.  Someone is trying to SHAKE the movable people so that only those who CANNOT be shaken remain.  If you MAKE it God will DESTROY it. He is not worshipped with the WORKS of human hands: pointing, waving, clapping or picking and grinning.   Musical disturbance is the wrath or ORGY Paul tried to prevent by removing the females and effeminate.

2Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren,
        by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
        and by our gathering together unto him,
2Thessalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled,
       neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us,
       as that the day of Christ is at hand.

Mŏvĕo , I. To move, stir, set in motion; to shake, disturb, remove,
A. Lit.: “movit et ad certos nescia membra modos,” “ut festis matrona moveri jussa diebus,” to dance, Hor. A. P. 232: by dancing (gesticulating),  “et fila sonantia movit,” struck, Ov. M. 10, 89: “citharam cum voce,” id.“tympana,” id. H. 4, 48; to disturb: “novis Helicona cantibus,” Manil. Astron. 1, 4: “signum movere loco,” to move from the place,
Ov. Met. 10.89
Sumtime a boay beloved of the God that with a string
Dooth arme his bow, and with a string in tune his Violl bring.
For hallowed to the Nymphes that in the feeldes of Carthye were
There was a goodly myghty Stag whose homes such bredth did beare,
As that they shadowed all his head. His homes of gold did shyne,
And downe his brest hung from his necke, a cheyne with jewels fyne.
Amid his frunt with prettie strings a tablet beeing tyde,
Did waver as he went: and from his eares on eyther syde
MARK OF SATAN MOVING MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST
movit et ad certos nescia membra modos,”

1 Certus purpose driven, resolved, deliberate,
2 Nescĭus an unknown thing, a piece of ignorance unknowing, ignorant, unaware, not understanding, unable II. An epithet of all those objects whose existence or reality is fixed, determined (hence in connection with definitus, Quint. 7, 10, 7; “with praefinitus,” Suet. Galb. 14)
Revelation 18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries WERE all nations deceived.

3 Membrum includes:  A Member Of the Church of Christ: “singuli autem alter alterius membra,” Vulg. Rom. 12, 5; cf. “the context: membra sumus corporis ejus,” i. e. Christ's, id. Eph. 5, 30.
4 Mŏdus , Musical Melody: you have to cut the word Limb from Limb to make melody
2. The measure of tones, measure, rhythm, melody, harmony, time; in poetry, measure, metre, mode: “vocum,” Cic. Div. 2, 3, 9: “musici,” Quint. 1, 10, 14: “lyrici,” Ov. H. 15, 6: “fidibus Latinis Thebanos aptare modos,” Hor. Ep. 1, 3, 12: Bacchico exsultas (i. e. exsultans) modo, Enn. ap. Charis. p. 214 P. (Trag. v. 152 Vahl.): “flebilibus modis concinere,” Cic. Tusc. 1, 44, 106: saltare ad tibicinis modos, to the music or sound of the flute, Liv. 7, 2: “nectere canoris Eloquium vocale modis,” Juv. 7, 19.—Fig.: “verae numerosque modosque ediscere vitae,” moral harmonies,

Citharam  1.the cithara, cithern, guitar, or lute
II. Meton., the music of the cithara, or, in gen., of a stringed instrument, the art of playing on the cithara,
And Voice

Cantus , ūs, m. id., I.the production of melodious sound, a musical utterance or expression, either with voice or instrument; hence, song, singing, playing, music  A. Of persons. 1. With the voice, a singing, song; in full, cantus vocum,  cock, a crowing
B. An incantation, charm, magic song, etc.: cantusque artesque magorum. SORCERY Cic. Div. 2.26

Lying Wonders: -Teratourg-eτ, A. WORK wonders, pseudτsti Sch.Pi.I.7(6).13.

logos , o(, verbal noun of lego; (B), with senses corresponding to leg0 (B) II and III (on the various senses of the word v. Opposite Pathos or peacher's tales
Opposite epagōg-ē , 2. bringing in to one's aid, introduction, 4. allurement, enticement b. incantation, spell, leading away into captivity.

Aristot. Rh. 3.6.3 [3] Use metaphors and epithets by way of illustration, taking care, however, to avoid what is too poetical. Aristot. Rh. 3.6.7   Poets also make use of this in inventing words, as a melody "without strings" or "without the lyre"; for they employ epithets from negations, a course which is approved in proportional metaphors, as for instance, to say that tNhe sound of the trumpet is a melody without the lyre.

Note: Psallo is never translated "melody" in the Greek literature.  If you want to sow discord instead of psallo and add TUNEFUL MELODY with an instrument the word is Melos. That's why Paul nor the Bible ever uses the word and why it is A LIE to make "melody or grace IN the heart mean melody WITH a harp.  The word PSALLO would absolute outlaw using any instrument you cannot pluck WITH YOUR FINGERS and never with a plectrum.
    From the Church in the wilderness onward and defined by the Campbells the command was to speak the Words of God externally and rehearse or meditate on them in the heart.

-[3. 8. 1 The form of diction should be neither metrical nor without rhythm. If it is metrical, it lacks persuasiveness, for it appears artificial, and at the same time it distracts the hearer's attention, since it sets him on the watch for the recurrence of such and such a cadence.

-Pindar, Pythian, Odes 4:[216] Aphrodite [ZOE] of Cyprus brought the maddening bird to men for the first time, and she taught the son of Aeson skill in prayerful incantations, so that he could rob Medea of reverence for her parents. and a longing for Greece would lash her, her mind on fire, with the whip of Persuasion.

A WORK OR WONDER WOULD BE TO PERFORM ANY RITUAL CLAIMING THAT IT IS DOING A DIVINE WORK OR WORSHIP.  A heretic is someone who chooses to CARRY AWAY something that belongs to another.
-Plato Athenian Laws  [884a] Next after cases of outrage we shall state for cases of violence one universally inclusive principle of law, to this effect:--
        No one shall carry or drive off anything which belongs to others,
        nor shall he use any of his neighbor's goods unless he has gained the consent of the owner;
        for from such action proceed all the evils above mentioned--past, present and to come.
Of the rest, the most grave are the licentious and outrageous acts of the young; and outrages offend most gravely when they are directed against sacred things, and they are especially grave when they are directed against objects which are public as well as holy, or partially public, as being shared in by the members of a tribe or other similar community. [885a] As to temple-robbing, whether done by open violence or secretly...
Tom Moulder: We talk too much about this TRADITION;  we need to seek and save the lost.  Anytime anywhere.  Where reaching out to the Lost, how well we have done at Heritage? Haven't been very effective.

Shepherd forced to do ask: Why ae we so INEFFECTIVE in reaching the lost if we have God on our side?

It is confessed by Jim Hackney before the Switch of churches as a Purpose Driven Ploy that the elders promised to be "a cappella." That was logically understood to mean "we will not be instrumental." When people do not trust the "leadership" then they will not invest their time or money or EXPOSE the youth to prophesied falling away.

Tom Moulder:A cappella (NOT using instruments) is simply a curious tradition.  The whole world is connected to the Internet.  This was the beginning of a revelation: think about it: When the last time you turned your radio to acappella.

Jesus refused to pray for the WORLD and God HIDES from the Wise or Sophist.  A Church of Christ is "a kingdom within you" and cannot be found with observations or religious services.

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the WORLD, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Romans 5.12   Dia touto hōsper di' henos anthrōpou hamartia eis ton kosmon eisēlthen kai dia tēs hamartias ho thanatos, kai houtōs eis pantas anthrōpous ho thanatos diēlthen eph' pantes hēmarton-.
kosmos , ho, A. generally, of things, natural order, this present world, i.e. earth, opp. heaven, regarded as the kingdom of evil
world-order, universe, first in Pythagoras
kosmo-kratōr [a^, oros, ho, A. lord of the world, epith. of ouranos, Orph.H.4.3; “Zeus Mitras Hēlios k.”
3. Astrol., ruler of the kosmos, i.e. planet, Id.in Cat.Cod.Astr.6.68, Vett.Val.171.6; “hoi hepta k.” Dam.Pr.131; hoi k. tou skotous toutou the cosmic rulers of this sinful world, Ep.Eph.6.12; “hoi k. hoi ta hupo selēnēn stoikheia dioikountes” Iamb.Myst.2.3.
Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Titus 2:12 Teaching us that,
        denying ungodliness and WORLDY lusts,
        we should live soberly, righteously, and godly,
        in this present world;

-Tuba War trumpet the ONLY instruments God authorized. Apart from military purposes, it was used on various occasions, as at religious festivals, games, funerals,
imitated by Verg. A. 9, 503: “tubae utrimque canunt,” Plaut. Am. 1, 1, 73

-Căno , cĕcĭni, cantum (ancient I. imp. cante = canite, Carm “once canituri,” Vulg. Apoc. 8, 13),
2. Of the faulty delivery of an orator, to speak in a sing-song tone: “inclinată ululantique voce more Asiatico canere,” Cic. Or. 8, 27; cf. canto and canticum.—

“In the lang. of the Pythagoreans, of the heavenly bodies (considered as living beings),” the music of the spheres, Cic. N. D. 3, 11, 27

C. Transf., of the instruments by which, or (poet.) of the places in which, the sounds are produced, to sound, resound: “canentes tibiae,” Cic. N. D. 2, 8, 22: “maestae cecinere tubae,” Prop. 4 (5), 11, 9. “frondiferasque novis avibus canere undique silvas,”
kosmos ,  metaph., of ornaments of speech, such as epithets, Id.9.9 (pl.), Arist.Rh.1408a14, Po.1457b2, 1458a33; hadumelē k. keladein to sing sweet songs of praise, Pi.O.11 (10).13 (s.v.l.).
Pind. O. 11 My tongue wants to foster such themes; [10] but it is by the gift of a god that a man flourishes with a skillful mind, as with anything else. For the present rest assured, Hagesidamus son of Archestratus: for the sake of your boxing victory,
        I shall loudly sing a sweet song, an adornment for your garland of golden olive,
        [15] while I honor the race of the Western Locrians.
There, Muses, join in the victory-song; I shall pledge my word to you that we will find there a race that does not repel the stranger, or is inexperienced in fine deeds, but one that is wise and warlike too.
Tom Moulder: The only reason, is someone has take a very NICHE Marketplace. Could learn a lot from brothers in Christ.  Have been talking with a brother.

It is a fact that the majority of the world's worshipers DO NOT use mechanical instruments to worship s Spirit God. Jesus consigned the Pipers trying to get others to sing or lament or dance to the MARKETPLACE. We don't SELL congregational singing which has been the historic practice for these 2,000 years. The Disciples of Christ INVENTED the Psallo word as late as 1876 to justify THEIR massive sowing of discord among the Disciples-Christiand.

MARK:
2 Co.1:12 For our rejoicing is this, the testimony of our conscience,
        that in simplicity and godly sincerity,
        not with fleshly wisdom, but by the grace of God,
        we have had our conversation in the world, and more abundantly to youward.

2 Cor 1:12 gar kaukhēsis hēmōn hautē estin, to marturion tēs suneidēseōs hēmōn, hoti en hagiotēti kai eilikrinia tou theou, kai ouk en sophia sarkikē all' en khariti theou, anestraphēmen en kosmō, perissoterōs de pros humas:

NOT THE MUSICAL GRACE:
Kharis
: the foregoing personified, as wife of Hephaestus, Il. 18.382.—Pl., Kharites, the Graces, handmaids of Aphrodīte, Il. 5.338, Il. 14.267, Il. 17.51, Od. 6.18, Od. 18.194. In an EROTIC sense a favor one man bestows on another: this was one of the TRADES the musical parasites performed in the marketplace.

Sophia
, Ion. -, h(, prop.A.cleverness or skill in handicraft and art, as in carpentry, tektonos, hos rha te pasēs eu eidē s. Il.15.412; of the Telchines, Pi.O.7.53; entekhnos s., of Hephaestus and Athena, Pl.Prt.32 1d; of Daedalus and Palamedes, X.Mem.4.2.33, cf. 1.4.2; in music and singing, tekhnē kai s. h.Merc.483, cf. 511; in poetry, Sol.13.52, Pi.O.1.117, Ar.Ra.882, X.An.1.2.8, etc.; in driving, Pl. Thg.123c; in medicine or surgery, Pi.P.3.54; in divination, S.OT 502 (lyr.); “dusthanatōn hupo sophias eis gēras aphiketo” Pl.R.406b; s. dēmēgorikē, dikanikē, ib.365d; peri Homērou s. Id.Ion 542a; “ou sophia alla phusei poiein” Id.Ap.22b; “sēmainontes tēn s . . ., hoti aretē tekhnēs estin” Arist.EN1141a12: rare in pl., Pi.O.9.107, Ar.Ra.676 (lyr.), IG12.522 (vase, v B.C.).

MARK:
2Cor. 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God:
        but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
17 ou gar esmen hōs hoi polloi kapēleuontes ton logon tou theou, all' hōs ex eilikrinias, all' hōs ek theou katenanti theou en Khristō laloumen.

kapēl-euō ,
A. to be a retail-dealer, drive a petty trade, Hdt.1.155, 2.35, Isoc.2.1, Nymphod.21, IG11(2).161 A16 (Delos, iii B. C.), BGU1024 vii 23 (iv A. D.); di' apsukhou boras sitois kapēleu' drive a trade, chaffer with your vegetable food, E.Hipp.953.
Tom Moulder just does not get it: He follows Rick Atchley by DENYING that those that attend the instrumental service has any right to complain.  You cannot have church in the morning and turn THEIR church into a Crack House in the evening.  It is a fact music induces endorphines into the "worshipers" and this induces the impulse of Fight, Flight or Sexual Feelings. The Wimber wineskings promote it as a Sexual-Like Climactic experience with the "spirit." The drug high makes music highly addictive. SO they get a music high all week so Tom Moulder thinks that YOUR church must proved the DRUG HIGH to get them back.  Music can produce Decibel Poisioning and can induce premature birth.  it SHUTS DOWN the rational or spiritual hemisphere and that is why it is defined as Sorcery (Rev 18) or Witchcraft.

Tom Moulder: Far more are withdrawing from this fellowship they don't even HAVE TO attend: this is just a TRADITION and they should be more into the Bible. This was just a tradition or man made trapping added after Christ.

So Tom Molder is sowing masively discord and he is UNABLE to stop sowing discord and resign. They should not withdraw: they should follow the commands to the elders to EJECT the misleaders.


Those complainers don't have to participate. There are so many bigger issues, seeking and saving the lost.


We have had to spend three sunday's on this issue; it is just frustrating.

When God sends strong delusions the deluders are the first to be deluded BUT they cannot stop: how can you stop people who THINK that a spirit inside of them is telling them to destroy the fellowship? The agenda is often, to chase out the owners and then make it into a DAUGHTER church speaking lies in hypocrisy.

Tom Moulder:  The youth are slowly bleeding away to Instrumental Music Chrches.  Why pander to people?

The blasphemy of imposing a Musical Worship Team at Rick Atchley's church started the downward spiral.  if parents were not suspicious they would bring their younger people and they could be taught the FACTS that God hates music and musicians in the "holy places" and He hates elders turned WOLVES who open the gate and let the STRAY wolf inside the fold.

Why PANDER to the owners and those who know that God CONDEMNS instruments and instrumentalists. The SOUNDS of God driving His enemies into "hell" are wind, string and percussion instruments. The Spirit OF Christ told me so in Isaiah 30.


Tom Moulder: More often called to judgment. Missed the chance to SAVE people when we decided to add musical instruments.

Sorry, YOU cannot save more souls: instruments DENIES Christ be denying the the only POWER to salvation is the Gospel OF the Kingdom.  Jesus sent evangelists OUT to seek the Lost.  These are lost spirits and when they hear the gospel, like the eunuch, they WILL respond: you are wasting your time calling the butterflies INTO the venue for Rock and Roll as all instrumentalists fall into:
Luke 8:40 And it came to pass, that, when Jesus was returned, the people gladly received him: for they were all waiting for him.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received HIS word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

I do have 100 sheep leave the 99 and seek the lost sheep.  Puts it on his shoulder. and BRINGS IT HOME.  

The shepherd does not OPEN the gate to the WOLVES which love to "eat" lambs: this is a double entendra since wolves are "pederasts" the MARK of the Sophist as opposed to the LOGOS people waiting for the call to "come up higher."


Tom Moulder:  Complainers ask: "Shouldn't we be more concerned about the 99 who might wander off?  This is a question like: "Are you still eating your wife?"  Premise is totally wrong. JESUS more rejoicing over one.
       
The Shepherd LEAVES the 99 who are in the sheepfold inside the closed city where shepherds brought their sheep after leading them "besides still waters" to feed.  Rushing Waters is a symbol of musical instruments: lambs will not and cannot feed on the word under those conditions--even if the elders taught that which is written.  He knows that the sheep are in good hands when he obeys the COMMANDMENT to GO seek the losts.

Wolves are the names of pedarests or boy lovers: Jesus warned about women and BOYS ruling over you.  What seems to be proposed is NOT to go out in the cold and find that lost sheep (they ARE already sheep) but to OPEN the doors and invite the WOLVES in.

See Worship Androgyny the Pagan Sexual Ideal

Tom Moulder: No one is ASKED to worship in a style they don't like.  Worship is in spirit and truth. JESUS more rejoicing over one.

Jesus meant that worship is IN THE SPIRIT as a PLACE as opposed to at Mount Gerizim or Moung Zion.  Truth is the Word of Christ.
Paul said that the converts worshipped IN THE SPIRIT contrasted IN THE FLESH.  The command to PREACH the Word by READING the Word for education, comfort and doctrine PREVENTS the Concision of Dogs from getting inside.
Thus saith the Lord God; Smite with thine hand, and stamp with thy foot, and say, Alas for all the evil abominations of the house of Israel for they shall fall by the sword, by the famine, and by the pestilence. Eze.6:11
        For thus saith the Lord God; Because thou hast clapped thine hands, and stamped with the feet, and rejoiced in heart with all thy despite against the land of Israel; Eze.25:6
        Behold, therefore I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and will deliver thee for a spoil to the heathen; and I will cut thee off from the people, and I will cause thee to perish out of the countries: I will destroy thee; and thou shalt know that I am the Lord. Eze 25:7

For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. Phil 3:3
Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. Phil 3:2

Dogs were the CYNICS they stamped, clapped and made noises like DOGS to attract their fellow homosexuals.

kuōn [u^, ho and h(, both in Hom., the masc. more freq., gen. ku^nos, dat.ku^ni, acc.kuna, voc.
II. as a word of reproach, freq. in Hom. of women, to denote shamelessness or audacity; applied by Helen to herself, Il.6.344, 356; by Iris to Athena, 8.423; by Hera to Artemis, 21.481: of the maids in the house of Odysseus, Od.18.338, al.: later, in a coarse sense, Ar.V.1402; rhapsōdos k., of the Sphinx, S.OT391, cf.A.Fr.236 (lyr.); of men, “kakai k.” Il.13.623; implying recklessness, 8.299, 527, Od.17.248, 22.35; also of offensive persons, compared to yapping dogs, LXX Ps.21(22).17, Ep.Phil.3.2; k. laithargos, = lathrodēktēs, metaph., of a person, S.Fr.885, cf. E. Fr.555: prov., “ dōte to hagion tois k.” Ev.Matt.7.6

Pan is the kuōn of Cybele Persephonēs kunes, of the planets
of Hecate, in Mithraic worship of the “Bakkhai, Lussas k.” E.Ba.977 (lyr.

3. of the Cynics, “areskei  self-pleasure Outlawed in Rom 15  toutois kunōn metamphiennusthai bion”

The Beast: thēreutēs deinos. “A mighty hunter,” a very Nimrod. For the notion of the chase in erotics, cp. the use of helein and diōkein in 182 E, etc., and of thēra in Soph. 222 D tōn erōntōn thēra (cp. thērōmai in Isocr. Hel. 219 D): for the same notion applied to philosophical enquiry, cp. Phaedo 66 C tēn tou ontos thēran: Gorg. 500 D, Theaet. 198 A ff. So Emerson (On Beauty), “The sharpestsighted hunter in the world is Love, for finding what he seeks and only that.”

MARK of the BEAST or Theiron meaning "A New style of music or drama).

Eur. Ba. 977 Go to the mountain, go, fleet hounds of Madness, where the daughters of Kadmos hold their company, and drive them raving [980] against the mad spy on the Maenads, the one dressed in women's attire. His mother will be the first to see him from a smooth rock or crag, as he lies in ambush, and she will cry out to the maenads:

luss-a^ , Att. lutta^ ,2. after Hom., raging madness, frenzy, such as was caused by the gods, as that of 10, “lussēs pneumati margō” A.Pr.883 (anap.); of Orestes, Id.Ch.287, E.Or.254, etc.; of the Proetides, B.10.102; of Bacchic frenzy, “elaphra l.” E. Ba.851; thoai Lussas kunes, of the Furies, ib.977 (lyr.); “lussē parakopos” Ar.Th.680: strengthd., “l. manias” S.Fr.941.4; “lutta erōtikē” Pl.Lg.839a; l. alone, of raging love, Theoc.3.47; simply, rage,   fanaticism, “peri tas haireseis” [Heresy]

Tom Moulder: GOD IS Interested in lost causes.  We need to reach OUT to them.  I haven't done that.  DO IT.

We need to feel the Burden of seeking the lost.

Paul communicates the same: the all sufficiencey of Christ: 

Tom Moulder: Not using Instruments is "Placing another requirement on Christians." Why not put myself in same position: requiring someone to believe but also believe in a cappella.  If I add that requirement then I have done what Paul condemns.

Giving up some bad habits.

Church at Corinth had many problems: "Why are you doing these things. This is wrong."  Paul still fellowships? Considered them to be Christians.  
How can we expect to do LESS.

Jesus prayed that we Aall may be One.  So that the World may believe that you may be  One as we are one John. 17

Be just like God and His Son: Wewant everyone to be ONE IN CHRIST.

Why bother about that prayer? don't look good.  God is not through with us yet.

Great things in store for Heritage: all things are possible.



My faith suggests that we WILL BE ONE even thought my EYES cannot see how it is to happen except by prayer.

God can take the worrst and turn it around: Have a love for one another and god. Great Commission

Tom Moulder PRAYS that God will REMOVE you faithful memebers constructing SATANIC BARRIERS:

You must remove all of the barriers SATAN can construct.
Make us a great congregation.  You can  put you back in our eyes.

The Lord, Lord sayers or prophesiers were Prophesying with Instruments: Jesus said GOD DOES NOT EVEN KNOW YOUR NAME.


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