Women must keep Silent in Church to Learn
Review of Skillman Church of Christ gradual use of women to rule over the flock. Paul commanded women to silence the display in singing and musical instruments because ONLY women invent religious rituals: If the women are silent then you only have the effeminate to contend with: Paul defined as dogs and wolves to be excluded from "class room" by confining it to the place of IN THE SPIRIT and not IN THE FLESH as Jesus directly commanded.
Anyone who uses Scripture without having a clue intending to deliberately sow discord will not be interested in the extensive notes: neither will the scholars who claimed to teach the teachers. However, I will add extensive notes which any one presuming to preach should know. I will try to put the surplus notes in tables with links so you do not have to be dangerous and without Biblical authority.
If you think of church as an institute instead of a synagogue or school of the Bible you will miss the point that everyone but the reader attends as a disciple. Women aspiring to restore matriarchal Mother Goddess worship seek RULING OVER roles and are by definition not very good students or even readers of the Word. The use of so called musical worship teams to replace Jesus Christ as the only Comforter which intends to lead to adding instruments will always mark a female "minister" or an effeminate male. According to Revelation 17-18 it also marks the removal of the lamps or candlestick.
I have decided to temporarily bypass some of the "proof texts" for women Ruling Over the Men by giving them exactly those responsibilities God assigned to the senior males (masculine gender). The literature and experiences is filled with the MOTHER GODDESS concept which causes women and their supporters to destroy the Patriarchal Jehovah with the Babylon-originated Mother of harlots (Revelation 17) who uses lusted after "fruits" (same in Amos) as rhetoricians, singers and instrument players John called SORCERERS who had deceived the whole world. This is the same Lucifer (mostly female but bysexual) who was the singing and harp-playing prostitute in the garden of Eden. The serpent is defined by Bible words and literature as a Musical Enchanter(ess).
CHURCH IS SCHOOL OF THE BIBLE: ELDERS TEACH, OTHERS ARE SILENT
Whatever interferes with preaching or reading the Word and listening to that Word is outlawed. The word specificially points to silencing all of the singing, music, theatrics and rhetoric because even in the secular world people who wanted to discuss any adult issue voted to silence all of the playing children
Paul always defined the pagan forms of "blowing winds of change" before he defined what he called "synagogue" restricted to a mature male READING the Word and everyone else in reverent SILENCE. That's what MEANS a school consisting of disciples never called "worshipers" in the ceremonial legalism sense. Men turn up holy Palms rather than women waving unholy arms (an invitation) would bring on WRATH which is an ORGY consisting of the same outlawed musical meaning erotic practices.
THE FULFILLMENT OF PROPHECY BEFORE YOUR WATCHING EARS
June 22, 2008 (PDF): A discussion of the Elders' view on the role of women in our worship and faith culture.
Skillman: The Role of Women in the Church
June 22, 2008
A. The Majority View
The discussion presented here represents the view of a majority of your elders. These views are not based merely on opinion, but are based on study, reading from a number of experts on both sides of the issue and prayer for God to lead us to and convict us of His will for Skillman.
God has fully expressed Himself: you MAY be listening in a echo chamber. It seems clear that the PURPOSE DRIVEN goal will be reached even if you have to do what all of the musical discorders: deliberately lie about God and to God and put a twisted vision into His mind.
NO SCHOLAR CAN DISPUTE THE WORDS OF PAUL UNDERSTOOD FOR THESE 2,000 YEARS. Your only choice is to decide to EXCISE all of Paul's writings as many of Dwight's fellow preachers have done in order to JUST PREACH JESUS and the "GOSPEL." Paul's doubtful disputations is outlawed in Romans 14 before the "synagogue" is defined in Romans 15 which EXCLUDES everything but speaking "that which is written." That outlaws any diversity which comes out of the imagination of the human mind which "is only evil continually." Paul's outlawing SELF-pleasure defines the only resource as "that which is written" and the only educational method is to speak that word as the only way to glorify God who wrote all of the songs and sermons.
After outlawing the personal preferences in the marketplace of the sects all addicted to music Paul defined the exact inclusive and exclusive role of the ekklesia or synagogue;
Rom. 15:1 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak,Both doubtful disputations and SELF pleasing utterly outlaw anyone who presumes to tamper with the Word or corrupt it meaning to sell it at retail and not have a clue about the produce.
and not to please ourselves.
Rom. 15:2 Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification. [education]
Rom. 15:3 For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written,
The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me.
Rom. 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning,
that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
Rom. 15:5 Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:
Rom. 15:6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Rom. 15:7 Wherefore receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God.
What Skillman confess!
What Paul absolutely OUTLAWS!
Areskô In addition to outlawing everything which creates mental excitement including all of the theatrics and music the word outlaws majority opinions: appease, concialiate, pleasure, IV areskei is used impers. to express the opinion or resolution of a public body. The dogmas of philosophers.
Latin Placeo: it pleases, is pleasing, is agreeable: I am disposed, I like, I please, I will.
1. In scenic lang., of players orpieces presented, to please, find favor, give satisfaction:
Dramatic poets, actors, organum a musical instrument, Scaenica A female player, an actress
II it pleases me, it seems good, right, or proper to me; it is my opinion, I am of opinion, I hold, believe, intend, purpose; it is decided, resolved, determinedSkillman:This is not a new topic to Skillman. The Skillman elders began a serious conversation about the role of women as far back as 1998. In 1999 they expressed a desire among themselves to move forward on implementing a more studied view by inviting scholars on both sides of the issue to come to Skillman and share their study. The elders’ conclusion (reached by a different eldership and different ministry staff than we have today) took the following form almost a full year later, quoted from the meeting minutes of September 11, 2000 as follows:
That was then: “The elders unanimously approved an alternative / 2nd service. Women may be used in the following areas during that service: to pass communion, usher, sing solo, give testimonials, read Scripture. There are two exceptions: no public prayer and the women are not to be used as worship leader / m.c./ pulpit person”
The extra service to quarantine the "troublers in Zion" almost always women is the classic ploy in all of the churches which have been "infiltrated and diverted." The goal is gradualism and after the smoke clears the next step is to move it to the main thing.
These things always follow the Navigating the Winds of Change: you have an end goal but you do not reveal it fully: all of history knows the need for gradualism as in boiling a frog. The latest leap is:
But this is now: Though the majority of your elders have concluded that using women to make announcements, read scriptures, to lead prayer or serve communion is allowable,
Carroll D. Osburn
"Feminist hermeneutics stands over against patriarchal hermeneutics" its goal achieved
"by small, often unnoticed acts of subversion. Numerous such incremental changes, like erosion, will eventually bring down the fortress " ( p. 32).
THE CHURCH OF CHRIST AS SYNAGOGUE OR CHURCH IN THE WILDERNESS HAS ONLY TWO FUNCTIONS.
PREACH by READING the Word as it has been revealed.
SILENCE for everyone else in order that ALL may understand the READ TEXT. Disciples are students and not ceremonial legalists in the worship sense: why would anyone need a LAW to make them keep silent when Jesus Christ is speaking.
Christ defined the Church in the Wilderness for holding the holy convocation: while the silver trumpets were used for signals they were not lawful for calling or holding the assembly for instruction only.
Both the Hebrew and Latin outlaw the use of music or rhetoric:
Numbers 10:[7] quando autem congregandus est populus simplex tubarum clangor erit et non concise ululabuntCon-grĕgo Congrego Academia congregation. where plato taught, scholars are called Academici, and his doctrine Philosophia Academica.. The philosophy of the Acadamy,A. For The philosophy of the Academy: instaret academia, quae quidquid dixisses,
CONGREGATION AS ACADAMY IS THE OPPOSITE TO THAT OF THE CYNICS. Cicero 1.21
Phil. 3:2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
Phil. 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit,
and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Kunikos, Cynics as the followers of Antisthenes were called from the gymnasium (Kunosarges) where he taught from their resemblance to dogs in several ways. Theriodes the BEASTS
Haireses taking of power, Kleros Of the Levites, clergy, Pharisees, Parresi A.outspokenness, frankness, freedom of speech, 2. in bad sense, licence of tongue
Theriodes the BEASTS
Isocrates 11. [38] But the fact is that you had no regard for the truth; on the contrary, you followed the calumnies of the poets, who declare that the offspring of the immortals have perpetrated as well as suffered things more atrocious than any perpetrated or suffered by the offspring of the most impious of mortals; aye, the poets have related about the gods themselves tales more outrageous than anyone would dare tell concerning their enemies. For not only have they imputed to them thefts and adulteries, and vassalage among men, but they have fabricated tales of the eating of children, the castrations of fathers, the fetterings of mothers, and many other crimes[39] For these blasphemies the poets, it is true, did not pay the penalty they deserved, but assuredly they did not escape punishment altogether; some became vagabonds begging for their daily bread; others became blind; another spent all his life in exile from his fatherland and in warring with his kinsmen; and Orpheus, who made a point of rehearsing these tales, died by being torn asunder[40] Therefore if we are wise we shall not imitate their tales, nor while passing laws for the punishment of libels against each other, shall we disregard loose-tongued vilification of the gods; on the contrary, we shall be on our guard and consider equally guilty of impiety those who recite and those who believe such lies.Present Orator A speaker, one who prays or supplicates, an entreater, beseecher
Occupatio taking possession, seizing, occupation B. Business, employment, occupation, occupation of studying doctrine,
Vita A. A living, support, subsistence
Libet as pleasing, that which pleases, Placeo to please, to be agreeable,
Scenico poetry, actors, a player, actor, term of reproach, femaleplayer, OPPOSITE TO TRUE, Organum a musical instrument (cymbalum of the Levites, Tibia, laudo) Modulato
Modulato II. In partic., a rhythmical measure, modulation; hence, singing and playing, melody, in poetry and music, Musica poetry, meter, the LAWS of music, the citharae, 1 Chronicles 16, music of the pipes or organ
John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure [meter unlimited] unto him.
Cupidus I. longing, desiring, desirous, eager, in a good and bad sense, wishing, loving, fond,
THAT WHICH WAS PERMITTED TO CALL ASSEMBLY:
Simplex I. In gen., simple, plain, uncompounded, unmixed
WHAT WAS NOT PERMITTED:
Tuba War trumpet the ONLY instruments God authorized. Apart from military purposes, it was used on various occasions, as at religious festivals, games, funerals,
b. Sonorous, elevated epic poetry,
c. A lofty style of speaking,
II. Trop.:tuba belli civilis, i. e. exciter, author, instigator.
Cicero F 6. The passport has not been issued at once, owing to the amazing rascality of certain persons, who would have been bitterly annoyed at a pardon being granted to you, whom that party call the "bugle of the civil war"--and a good many observations to the same effect are made by them, as though they were not positively glad of that war having occurred.SILENCE AS HESUCHAZO G 2270Clangor, sound, claing, I. Of wind instruments: III. Of dogs, a barking, baying, the Cynics Paul excluded from the "worship in spirit."
All pagans believed that their instruments were idols and the "gods" living inside made the noise: David tried to awaken his lyre so he could awaken the dawn. Paul spoke of lifeless instruments which are also carnal weapons.
WHY IS SOUNDING AND CLANGING LIKENED TO WAR AND WITCHCRAFT IN 1 CORINTHIANS 13?
Hab. 2:14 For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD,Acts 15:12 Then all the multitude kept silence,
as the waters cover the sea.
Hab. 2:18 What profiteth the graven image that the maker thereof hath graven it; the molten image,
and a teacher of lies, that the maker of his work trusteth therein, to make dumb idols?
Hab. 2:19 Woe unto him that saith to the wood, Awake; to the dumb stone, Arise, it shall teach!
Behold, it is laid over with gold and silver, and there is no breath at all in the midst of it.
Hab. 2:20 But the LORD is in his holy temple:
let all the earth keep silence before him.
481. alam, aw-lam´; a primitive root; to tie fast; hence (of the mouth) to be tongue-tied:—bind, be dumb, put to silence.
and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul,
declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.
Acts 21:40 And when he had given him licence, Paul stood on the stairs,
and beckoned with the hand unto the people.
And when there was made a great silence,
he spake unto them in the Hebrew tongue, saying,
Acts 22:2 (And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrew tongue to them,
they kept the more silence:
and he saith,)
And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business,
and to work with your own hands,
as we commanded you; 1Th.4:11Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
OF THE MANY FALSE PREACHERS: You cannot sell the free water of the word (Isaiah 55) which denies you the right to speak your own words (Isaiah 58).Job 32:7 I said, Days should speak, and multitude of years should teach wisdom.
Can you grasp that? If God is going to teach when the elders teach that which has been taught, then EVERYONE ELSE must be SILENT in order to be "filled with the knowledge of the glory of God." Paul said speak "that which is written" as the way to glorify god and EDUCATE.
Job 32:8 But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.
G2271 Heschios.
2Th. 3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
2Th. 3:7 For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;
2Th. 3:8 Neither did we eat any man’s bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:
2Th. 3:9 Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.
Speaking of the MANY who were professional preachers USURPING AUTHORITY.
2Th. 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you,FIRST CORINTHIANS FOURTEEN
that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
2Th. 3:11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly,
working not at all, but are busybodies.
138. haireomai, hahee-reh´-om-ahee; probably akin to 142; to take for oneself,2Th. 3:12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ,
142. airo, ah´-ee-ro; a primary root; to lift up; by implication, to take up or away; figuratively, to raise (the voice), keep in suspense (the mind), specially, to sail away, make to doubt,
Outlawed as SELF-Aresko g700 through exciting emotion from g142
Rom. 15:1 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak,
and not to please ourselves.
Rom. 15:2 Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification.
Rom. 15:3 For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written,
The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me.
that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.
Again note that to be A Church of Christ is to be a school of Christ: Paul's only worship concept was to give heed to the Words of God in Christ. Peter agrees that that there are two VENUES:
If you SPEAK in the assembly you had BETTER speak that which has been taught. However, if you have the TALENT of playing a guitar and singing there are many places where you can minister the other 167 hours of the week. In the Apocalyptic literature it is an unredeemable sin to pretend to MAKE MUSIC as being from God. God has ten thousands of His saints ready to go.
There were no revealing prophets in Corinth: prophesying was speaking the Word of God. Paul silenced the pretend prophesiers who by definition would almost always be women who sang their own songs in their own "inspired" tongue or minor dialect. If people sang or spoke in Thracian in an assembly where eveyone understood Koine Paul said that they would APPEAR mad which defines the uncovered prophesying outside of the assembly in 1 Corinthians 15:5If any man speak,
..........let him speak as the oracles of God;
if any man minister,
.......... let him do it as of the ability which God giveth:that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ,
to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. 1Pe.4:11
In Romans 15 Paul commanded THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN for learning and comfort.
The MAD WOMEN in and around Corinth went into a charismatic fit and just confused things for a PROFIT.
And the spirits of the PROPHETS are subject to the PROPHETS 1 Cor. 14:32
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace,
as in ALL CHURCHES of the saints. 1 Cor. 14:33Because the UNCOVERED PROPHESIERS were women or perverted males, Paul issued a direct command:
Let your WOMEN keep SILENCE in the churches: for it is NOT PERMITTED unto them to SPEAK; but they are COMMANDED to be UNDER OBEDIENCE, as also saith the law. 1 Cor. 14:34
And if they will LEARN any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a SHAME for WOMAN to speak IN THE CHURCH. 1 Cor. 14:35
God's Law SILENCED Miriam for one example:
Miriam means:
Miryam (h4813) meer-yawm'; from 4805; rebelliously; Mirjam, the name of two Israelitesses: - Miriam.
Meriy (h4805) mer-ee'; from 4784; bitterness, i. e. (fig.) rebellion; concr. bitter, or rebellious: - bitter, rebellion, rebellious).
Marah (h4784) maw-raw'; a prim. root; to be (caus. make) bitter (or unpleasant); (fig.) to rebel (or resist; causat. to provoke): - bitter, change, be disobedient, disobey, grievously, provocation, provoke (- ing), (be) rebel (against, -lious).As a princess, Miriam would have been a Prophetess of Hathor: the female companion of Apis the golden Calf. We have a historical record of how these women PROPHESIED by singing, chanting, dancing and playing instruments.
And they said, Hath the Lord indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the Lord heard it. Numbers 12:2
And the Lord spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out. Numbers 12:4
And the Lord came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth. Numbers 12:5
And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet (male) among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. Numbers 12:6 However, of Moses
With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches (riddles); and the similitude (shape or phantom) of the Lord shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? Numbers 12:8
"She was "the sister of Moses, was the eldest of that sacred family; and she first appears, probably as a young girl, watching her infant brother's cradle in the Nile, (Exodus 2:4) and suggesting her mother as a nurse. ver. 7. After the crossing of the Red Sea "Miriam the prophetess" is her acknowledged title. ch. (Exodus 15:20) The prophetic power showed itself in her under the same form as that which it assumed in the days of Samuel and David,
poetry, accompanied with music and processions. ch. (Exodus 15:1-19)
"She took the lead, with Aaron, in the complaint against Moses for his marriage with a Cushite, (Numbers 12:1,2) and for this was attacked with leprosy. This stroke and its removal, which took place at Hazeroth, form the last public event of Miriam's life. ch. (Numbers 12:1-15) She died toward the close of the wanderings at Kadesh, and was buried there. ch. (Numbers 20:1) (B.C. about 1452.) (Smith's Bible Dictionary)
This is why Paul asked whether they THOUGHT that they were speaking FOR God:
What came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 1 Cor. 14:36
When Paul used the word AUTHENTIA to prove that there WERE no women prophesiers in Corinth and the "word could NOT have come from them."
Authent-ikos loqui make an authoritative statement Authenticus 1. that comes from the author,
There were no MALE prophets in Corinth AND therefore they were left with READING what Paul had delivered or some one else had delivered. Many would speak minor dialects but Paul outlawed this unless they could PROVE themselves a prophet which non could. It would be the women who connected wine or music-induced madness with "prophesying" which is to make music.
If any MAN think himself to be a PROPHETS, or spiritual,
.......... let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you
.......... are the commandments of the Lord. 1 Cor. 14:37But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. 1 Cor. 14:38
THE MEANING OF SILENCE:
Sigao Hush, keep still, keep secret. There is no absolute command for silence.
The REASON for the ritual-prone women and and effeminate are to be silent is in order to LEARN!
Eido 1. see, perceive, behold, 3. see mentally, to see in the mind's eye, to examine, investigate,
Everyone but the READER was to keep SINENCE in order to UNDERSTAND which is the function of CHURCH.
But ye have not so learned Christ; Eph 4:20
But that isn't the way Christ taught you! Eph 4:20LIV
If so be that ye have heard him,
and have been taught by him,
as the truth is in Jesus: Eph 4:21Heard is what you do when you keep silent as a disciple.
Akouo (g191) ak-oo'-o; a prim. verb; to hear (in various senses): - give (in the) audience (of), come (to the ears), (shall]) hear (-er, - ken), be noised, be reported, understand.
Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Ac.2:37
Taught
Matt. 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Didasko (g1321) . verb dao, (to learn); to teach (in the same broad application): - teach
Matt. 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart:
and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Matt. 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is lightManthano (g3129) man-than'-o; prol. from a prim. verb, another form of which, matheo, is used as an alt. in cert. tenses; to learn (in any way): - learn, understand
Rest: 372. anapausis, an-ap´-ow-sis; from 373; intermission; by implication, recreation: — rest.
Latin:
373. anapano, an-ap-ow´-o; from 303 and 3973; (reflexively) to repose (literally or figuratively (be exempt), remain); by implication, to refresh: take ease, refresh, (give, take) rest.
Discipulus ; Engl., foal, a learner, scholar, pupil, disciple.
II. A learner in an art or trade, an apprentice,
III. (Eccl. Lat.) A disciple of Christ, .
Auditor I.a hearer, an audito, listen or read a book
Mathetes a learning or pupil,It is a Biblical and historical fact that it was only WOMEN who played instruments before the time of David! David didn't follow the Law: he led the worship of the starry host. Therefore, the ways for the only JUMPITY people to be SILENCED is to silence that which they are prone to INTRODUCE when they gain power to "rule over you."
Sigao 2. metaph. of things, sigôn d'olethros kai mega phônount' . Pthengoma --utter a sound or voice, esp. speak loud and clear,
Sign of Destruction with Loud Sounds which silences all of the rhetoricians defined by Jesus as hypocrites.
[A] Sigon [B] Olethros and [C] Mega [D] Pthengoma
[B] Olethros Destruction, death, destruction of property (tithes and offerings), in the ekklesia
Grammateus a pestilent scribe, of Aeschines, Id.18.127 used with Hypocrites
Demosthenes 18. [127] Why, if my calumniator had been Aeacus, or Rhadamanthus, or Minos, instead of a mere scandalmonger, a market-place loafer, a poor devil of a clerk, he could hardly have used such language, or equipped himself with such offensive expressions. Hark to his melodramatic bombast: “Oh, Earth! Oh, Sun! Oh, Virtue,” and all that vaporing; his appeals to “intelligence and education, whereby we discriminate between things of good and evil report”--for that was the sort of rubbish you heard him spouting.Commentary: 3. spermologos: originally a little bird which picked up seed from newly sown fields (Ar. Av. 232, 579); then a man who lives by picking up what he can in the market and other places of trade, a vagabond, and generally a worthless fellow; sometimes one who picks up and retails small scraps of gossip, a babbler or prater, as applied to St Paul in Acts xvii. 18.
Acts [17] So he reasoned in the synagogue with Jews and the devout persons, and in the marketplace every day with those who met him.[18] Some of the Epicurean and Stoic philosophers also encountered him. Some said, "What does this babbler want to say?" Others said, "He seems to be advocating foreign demons," because he preached Jesus and the resurrection.5. epachtheis, ponderous, offensively pompous: provide one's self with, bring out: cf. XIX. 186, XXXV. 41.--hôsper en tragôidiai: see note on § 13.6.
"Winning" a goat (cappella) by singing the goat song. Acting, exaggerated speech, outward grandeur, pomp.
Aristophanes When the take over the ekklesia (church) to destroy
Servant --is going to construct the framework of a drama. He is rounding fresh poetical forms,
[55] he is polishing them in the lathe and is welding them; he is hammering out sentences and metaphors; he is working up his subject like soft wax. First he models it and then he casts it in bronze--Euripides That is precisely what makes me tremble; the women have plotted my ruin, and to-day they are to gather in the Temple of Demeter to execute their decision.
[B] Megas of great sounds
Alaletos shout of victory (David's Halal) sound of the aulon or flute. Alale Mania Pauls "mad" word to the Corinthians. eleleu , doubled eleleu eleleu. Also David's praise word as a King of a nation abandoned to worship the starry host: h1984 partial.
Psa. 75:3 The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved [made soft]: I bear up the pillars of it. Selah.
Psa. 75:4 I said unto the fools, Deal not foolishly: and to the wicked [make trouble, vex] ,
Psa. 75:5 Lift not up your horn on high: speak not with a stiff [impudent] neck.
a horn (literally or for sound):--horn, cornet.Psa. 75:6 For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south.
4791 from 7311 altitude, haughty, High is to bring up, exalt self, extold, be proud
[C] Silence Phthengomai, Od.10.228, of inanimate things, of a door, creak of thunder; of trumpets, of the flute, of the lyre, [of a melody claimed to be from god using Apollo's lyre] of an earthen pot, whether it rings sound or cracked, Pl.Tht.179d; ph. to clap with the hands, III. c. acc. pers., sing, or celebrate one aloud , Pi.O.1.36;
Clearly identifying CIRCE from whom we get Church and the Holy Whore:
Homer, Odyssey. 10.[220] So they stood in the gateway of the fair-tressed goddess, and within they heard Circe singing with sweet voice, as she went to and fro before a great imperishable web, such as is the handiwork of goddesses, finely-woven and beautiful, and glorious. Then among them spoke Polites, a leader of men,[225] dearest to me of my comrades, and trustiest: “‘Friends, within someone goes to and fro before a great web, singing sweetly, so that all the floor echoes; some goddess it is, or some woman. Come, let us quickly call to her.’ “So he spoke, and they cried aloud, and called to her.[230] And she straightway came forth and opened the bright doors, and bade them in; and all went with her in their folly.Sound of the Trumpet: Xenophon, Anabasis 4.2
[7] At this place, then, they passed the night, and when day was beginning to break, they took up their march silently in battle array against the enemy; for there was a mist, and consequently they got close up to them without being observed. When they did catch sight of one another, the trumpet sounded and the Greeks raised the battle cry and rushed upon the enemy. And the Carduchians did not meet their attack, but abandoned the road and took to flight; only a few of them, however, were killed, for they were agile fellowsSound of the Flute: Xenophon, Socrates, Symposium 6.
“Why, don't you see that a person could not insert even a hair in the interstices of your talk, much less a word?”
[3] “Callias,” said Socrates, appealing to him, “could you come to the rescue of a man hard put to it for an answer?”“Yes, indeed,” said he: “we are absolutely quiet every time the flute is played.”
Hermogenes retorted, “Is it your wish that I should converse with you to the accompaniment of a flute, the way the actor Nicostratus used to recite tetrameter verses?”
[4] “In Heaven's name, do so, Hermogenes,” urged Socrates. “For I believe that precisely as a song is more agreeable when accompanied on the flute, so your discourse would be embellished somewhat by the music, especially if you were to gesticulate and pose, like the flute-girl, to point your words.”“For the discomfited disputant,” said Antisthenes, “I think the appropriate music would be a hissing.”
[5] “What is the tune to be,” asked Callias, “when Antisthenes here gets some one at the banquet cornered in an argument?”Pindar, Olympian 1 so that they loudly sing
[10] the son of Cronus, when they arrive at the rich and blessed hearth of Hieron,[12] who wields the scepter of law in Sicily of many flocks, reaping every excellence at its peak, and is glorified[15] by the choicest music,lyre down from its peg, if the splendor of Pisa and of Pherenicus placed your mind under the influence of sweetest thoughts,which we men often play around his hospitable table. Come, take the Dorian
Yes, there are many marvels, and yet I suppose the speech of mortals beyond the true account can be deceptive, stories adorned with embroidered lies;
[30] and Grace, who fashions all gentle things for men, confers esteem and often contrives to make believable the unbelievable. But the days to come are the wisest witnesses.Silence Palame A. to clap with the hands, palm of the hand: hence, generally, hand, esp. as used in grasping, 2. hand as used in deeds of violence, the works of human hands, cunning, art, device, device for one's livlihood, of the gods.
Silence the Surinx a shepherds pipe, whistle or hiss in the theater, mouthpieces of the flute, anything with a hole in it making noise. The Phorminx which is the property of Apollo or Abaddon.
Homer, Iliad 1 So he spoke, and the goddess, white-armed Hera, smiled,
[595] and smiling took in her hand the cup from her son. Then he poured wine for all the other gods from left to right, drawing forth sweet nectar from the bowl. And unquenchable laughter arose among the blessed gods, as they saw Hephaestus puffing through the palace.[600] Thus the whole day long till the setting of the sun they feasted, nor did their heart lack anything of the equal feast, nor of the beauteous lyre, that Apollo held, nor yet of the Muses, who sang, replying one to the other with sweet voices.Silence Melos B. esp. musical member, phrase: hence, song, strain, meter, 2. music to which a song is set, tune, 3. melody of an instrument, phorminx d'au phthengoith' hieron
Phorminx Pthengoma Hieron
Phorminx a lyre especially the instrument of Apollo, Apollon
Homer Iliad 1.Then he poured wine for all the other gods from left to right, drawing forth sweet nectar from the bowl. And unquenchable laughter arose among the blessed gods, as they saw Hephaestus puffing through the palace.
[600] Thus the whole day long till the setting of the sun they feasted, nor did their heart lack anything of the equal feast, nor of the beauteous lyre, that Apollo held, nor yet of the Muses, who sang, replying one to the other with sweet voices. But when the bright light of the sun was set,[605] they went each to his own house to take their rest, where for each one a palace had been built with cunning skill by the famedHephaestus, the limping god; and Zeus, the Olympian, lord of the lightning, went to his couch, where of old he took his rest, whenever sweet sleep came upon him.[610] There went he up and slept, and beside him lay Hera of the golden throne.Hieros I. illed with or manifesting divine power, supernatural, II. of divine things, holy, holy war, Nomos law of sacrifice Hierodoulos A temple slave, Nethinim, Especially of temple courtesans at Corintho and elsewhere and also of men.
Strabo Geography 8.6. And the temple of Aphrodite was so rich that it owned more than a thousand temple slaves, courtesans, whom both men and women had dedicated to the goddess. And therefore it was also on account of these women that the city was crowded with people and grew rich; for instance, the ship captains freely squandered their money, and hence the proverb, "Not for every man is the voyage to Corinth."Source unknown Moreover, it is recorded that a certain courtesan said to the woman who reproached her with the charge that she did not like to work or touch wool: "Yet, such as I am, in this short time I have taken down three webs."
Strabo 11.4. and also of the temple slaves, many of whom are subject to religious frenzy and utter prophecies. And any one of those who, becoming violently possessed, wanders alone in the forests, is by the priest arrested, bound with sacred fetters, and sumptuously maintained during that year, and then led forth to the sacrifice that is performed in honor of the goddess, and, being anointed, is sacrificed along with other victims.
Nethinims Probably "Gibeonites who tricked Joshua into sparing them (cf. Josh. 9). When their ruse was discovered it was decreed (Josh. 9:27) that they serve as hewers of wood and drawers of water for the community and the altar. Ezra 8:20 mentions the Nethinim ‘whom David and his officials had set apart to attend the Levites...At Ugarit there was a class of cultic servitors called ytnm, one of whom has a name that appears in the list in Ezra 2:45-46. It is therefore possible that the Nethinim were an international guild skilled in cultic arts who attached themselves to Israel in an early period. Similar also to the Nethinim in function are the shirku, known from Neo-Babylonian documents.
Josephus knew that the Levites had destroyed Israel the first time and WERE READY to do it again:
6. Now as many of the Levites, (26) which is a tribe of ours, as were singers of hymns, persuaded the king to assemble a sanhedrim, and to give them leave to wear linen garments, as well as the priests
for they said that this would be a work worthy the times of his government, that he might have a memorial of such a novelty, as being his doing.
Nor did they fail of obtaining their desire; for the king, with the suffrages of those that came into the sanhedrim, granted the singers of hymns this privilege, that they might lay aside their former garments,
and wear such a linen one as they desired; and as a part of this tribe ministered in the temple,
he also permitted them to learn those hymns as they had besought him for.
Now all this was contrary to the laws of our country, which, whenever they have been transgressed, we have never been able to avoid the punishment of such transgressions.
Entregam nonra para [os]altissimo
The Ugaritic Drama of the Good Gods
Translated who set a city on high. ytnm would be a plural participle with the gracious
gods as antecedent.
The Vine-pruners prune him
the vine-binders bind him;
they cause his shoots to fall like a vine
Or
The pruners prune him like a vine
the binders bind him like a vinePindar, Olympian 9.
The tomb of Iolaus bears witness for him, and also Eleusis by the sea, for his splendid achievements.[1] The resounding strain of Archilochus, the swelling thrice-repeated song of triumph, sufficed to lead Epharmostus to the hill of Cronus, in victory-procession with his dear companions.[5] But now, from the bow of the Muses who, shooting from afar, send a shower of such arrows of song as these on Zeus of the red lightning-bolt and on the sacred height of Elis, which once the Lydian hero Pelops[10] won as the very fine dowry of Hippodameia.[11] And shoot a winged sweet arrow to Pytho; for your words will not fall to the ground, short of the mark, when you trill the lyre in honor of the wrestling of the man from renowned Opus. Praise Opus and her son;[100] That which is inborn is always the best; but many men strive to win glory with excellence that comes from training. Anything in which a god has no part is none the worse for being quelled in silence. For some roads[105] lead farther than others, and a single occupation will not nourish us all. The paths to skill are steep; but, while offering this prize of song, boldly shout aloud[110] that this man, by the blessing of the gods, was born with deftness of hand and litheness of limb, and with valor in his eyes; and at the banquet of Aias son of Oileus he laid his victorious garland on the altar.FIRST TIMOTHY TWO[C]. A SILENCE: the dithramb metaphor of bombastic language,
Dithyrambus (dithurambos). A hymn sung at the festivals of Dionysus to the accompaniment of a flute and a dance round the altar. (See Dionysia.)
The hymn celebrated the sufferings and actions of the god in a style corresponding to the passionate character of his worship. In the course of time it developed into a distinct kind of Greek lyric poetry.
It was in Corinth that it first received anything like a definite artistic form, and this at the hands of Arion , who was therefore credited by the ancients with its actual invention. The truth probably is that he was the first who divided the festal song of the chorus into strophe and antistrophe, and arrangement from which tragedy took its rise.
There was a very considerable number of dithyrambic poets. The best known are Melanippides Melos (q.v.) of (about B.C. 415), who is generally held responsible for the degeneracy of the dithyramb and the excess of instrumental music;
"This cry of Zeus, the Thunder-hurler, to the child, his son, Dionysos, sounds the leitmotif of the Greek mysteries of the initiatory second birth (Second Incarnation)..The word 'Dithyrambos' itself, as an epithet of the killed and resurrected Dionysos, was understood by the Greeks to signify 'him of the double door', him who had survived the awesome miracle of the second birth." - Joseph Campbell, The Hero With a Thousand Faces
"A fourth-century BC hymn in honor of dionysus contains the invocation: 'Come to us, King Dithyramb, Bacchus, god of the holy chant.'"
Dithurambos, Dithyramb "comes to be used of a Dionysiac song which possessed some infectious quality that led his votaries to take it up as a ritual chant. Later it became the subject for competition at Dionysiac festivals, and with its formalization it lost any spontaneity it may have possessed originally." "
"At the beginning of the fifth century BC tragedy formed part of the Great Dionysia, the Spring festival of Dionysos Eluethereus. Three poets completed, each contributing three tragedies and one satyric play. The latter was performed by choruses of fifty singers in a circle, dressed as satyrs, part human, part bestial, and bearing before them huge replicas of the erect penis (i.e. church steeples or columns or asherahs), as they sang dithyrambs." - John M. Allegro, The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross
[C] B.
Silence the recitive of the chorus: Sige 2. in an undertone, in a whisper, secretly
Xenophon, Socrates, Ec 8. [3] My dear, there is nothing so convenient or so good for human beings as order. Thus, a chorus is a combination of human beings; but when the members of it do as they choose, it becomes mere confusion, and there is no pleasure in watching it; but when they act and chant in an orderly fashion, then those same men at once seem worth seeing and worth hearing.[4] Again, my dear, an army in disorder is a confused mass, an easy prey to enemies, a disgusting sight to friends and utterly useless,
Homer 19: [250] rose up, and Talthybius, whose voice was like a god's, took his stand by the side of the shepherd of the people, holding a boar in his hands. And the son of Atreus drew forth with his hand the knife that ever hung beside the great sheath of his sword, and cut the firstling hairs from the boar, and lifting up his hands[255] made prayer to Zeus; and all the Argives sat thereby in silence, hearkening as was meet unto the king. And he spake in prayer, with a look up to the wide heaven: Be Zeus my witness first, highest and best of gods, and Earth and Sun, and the Erinyes, that under earth[260] take vengeance on men, whosoever hath sworn a false oath
1Tim. 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions,
and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
You must be silent in church
1Tim. 2:2 For kings, and for all that are in authority;
that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
1Tim. 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
Because church is only to understand the knowledge of the truth.
1Tim. 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved,
and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
The mad women prophesiers functioned as mediatrix--for a price.
1Tim. 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1Tim. 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
1Tim. 2:7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle,
(I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.
Older males lift up holy PALMS and are not tempted to wave unholy ARMS
1Ti 2:8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without WRATH and DOUBTING Jesus promised to "appear to thee" in the future to guide him into all truth just as he had the original apostles. The word WILL is not just a suggestion. It has nothing to do with gender but is directed especially to women who had been the upstanders and upspeakers in pagan religionis. Sermon outline 101 is just NOT able to read ALL of the words. You must understand WILL, HOLY HANDS, without WRATH and without DOUBTFUL DISPUTATIONS outlawed in Romans 14 so you can SPEAK with one mind and one mouth THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN. That is not too hard?
FIRST: WILL IS:
Boulomai Hom. uses boulomai for ethelô in the case of the gods, for with them wish is will ethelô is more general, and is sts. used where boulomai might have stood. Paul was speaking FOR Jesus Christ and therefore his WILL was God's Will.
Boulomai: 2. in Hom. of gods, he willed victory to the Trojans, to boulomenon tên politeian plêthos that supports the constitution
WRATH: When god pours out His wrath the word is ORGE where He sends jesters and Buffoons:
When the pagan prophetesses performed their RITES often using singing and instruments the claimed to be able to LEAD YOU into the presence of the Gods. These RITES created PANIC or the burden of "spiritual anxiety created by religious rituals" which Jesus died to SILENCE. Remember that the Greeks defined the BEAST in Revelation as PAN. His horns were musical pan pipes which tyrants used to gain their own mountain kingdom.
Orge I. natural impulse or propension: one's temper, temperament, disposition, orgê , hê, II. passion, anger, wrath, 3. Panos orgai panic fears (i. e. terrors sent by Pan), Eur.:--but, orgê tinos anger against a person or at a thing, Soph.; hierôn orgas wrath at or because of the rites, Aesch.
G3709 orge or-gay' From G3713 ; properly desire (as a reaching forth or excitement of the mind), that is, (by analogy) violent passion... wrath.
G3713 oregomai; to stretch oneself, that is, reach out after (long for):covet after, desire.
G3735 oros or'-os perhaps akin to G142 ; compare G3733 ); a mountain (as lifting itself above the plain):
Orgi-a , iôn, ta, secret rites, secret worship, practised by the initiated, of the rites of the Cabeiri [homosexuals] and Demeter, of Orpheus, of Cybele, most freq. of the rites of Dionysus .2.81, E.Ba.34, al., Theoc.26.13.
II. generally, RITES, orgia Mousôn [Rev 18:22] Ar.Ra.356 . Aphroditês [similar to Lucifer or Zoe].
Org-aô I. to be getting ready to bear, growing ripe for something,
II. of men, like sphrigaô, swell with lust, wax wanton, be rampant, ho ep' aphrodisiois mainomenos . . orgôn Poll.6.188 ; of human beings and animals, to be in heat, desire sexual intercourse, .
2. generally, to be eager or ready, to be excited, Lakedaimoniôn orgôntôn emellon peirasesthai Th.4.108 ; orgôntes krinein judge under the influence of passion,
Aphrodisiois mainomenos . .
Aphrodisios [From Aphroditê]
I. belonging to Aphrodite,
II. Aphrodisia, ta, sexual pleasures, .
2. a festival of Aphrodite,Aphrodisiois mainomenos . .
Mainomai I. to rage, be furious, Hom.; ho maneis the madman, Soph.: to be mad with wine, Od.:--of Bacchic frenzy, Il., Soph.; hupo tou theou m. to be driven mad by the god, Hdt.; to mainesthai madness, Soph.; plein ê mainomai more than madness, Ar.:--c. acc. cogn., memênôs ou smikran noson mad with no slight disease, Aesch.
Orgi-astikos of or for orgia, exciting, ouk estin ho aulos êthikon, alla . . orgiastikon Arist.Pol.1341a22 ; o. kai pathêtika ib.1342b3.
Kin-êtikos A. of or for putting in motion, 2. metaph., urging on, exciting, neura motor nerves, spontaneous
2. metaph., urging on, exciting logos k. pros aretên Aristo stimulating, to melos B. esp. musical member, phrase: hence, song, strain, 2. music to which a song is set, tune, 3. melody of an instrument, TurbulantSimilar: Instiga-tio , o-nis, f. [instigo] , an urging, stimulating, instigating, an incitement, instigation: Auditorum, Auct. Her. 2, 30, 47 : novercalibus instigationibus corrupti, Dig. 5, 2, 4 : praedonum, Lact. 5, 19, 2 .
Histrio-na-lis , e, adj. [histrio] , of or belonging to a stage-player, like an actor (a word of Tac.): studium, Tac. A. 1, 16 : modi, id. Or. 26 : favor, id. ib. 29
Tacitus, The Annals BOOK 1: A.D. 14, 15
This was the beginning of demoralization among the troops, of quarreling, of listening to the talk of every pestilent fellow, in short, of craving for luxury and idleness and loathing discipline and toil.
In the camp was one Percennius, who had once been a leader of one of the theatrical factions, then became a common soldier, had a saucy tongue, and had learnt from his applause of actors how to stir up a crowd. By working on ignorant minds, which doubted as to what would be the terms of military service after Augustus, this man gradually influenced them in conversations at night or at nightfall, and when the better [p. 15] men had dispersed, he gathered round him all the worst spirits.
Theatralis:sermones, i. e. low, vulgar,This is the same MENTAL EXCITEMENT which Paul outlawss as NOT Christian and NOT possible in the assembly. The mental excitement was almost always caused by music to induce MADNESS or "prophesying."
G700 ar-es'-ko Probably from G142 (through the idea of exciting emotion); to be agreeable (or by implication to seek to be so please.
G142 airo ah'ee-ro A primary verb; to lift; by implication to take up or away; figuratively to raise (the voice), keep in suspense (the mind); specifically to sail away (that is, weigh anchor); by Hebraism (compare [ H5375 to expiate sin: away with, bear (up), carry, lift up, loose, make to doubt, put away, remove, take (away, up).
Peter outlawed private interpretation which means 'further expounding." The Bible is the TEXT of the ekklesia or school of the Bible. It provides no cracks for professional rhetoricians (hypocrites) to perform or singers to first modify and then present their message intending to AROUSE people which is always a sexual attack and THE meaning of WRATH.
What Skillman confess!
What Paul absolutely OUTLAWS!
Areskô In addition to outlawing everything which creates mental excitement including all of the theatrics and music the word outlaws majority opinions: appease, concialiate, pleasure, IV areskei is used impers. to express the opinion or resolution of a public body. The dogmas of philosophers.
Latin Placeo: it pleases, is pleasing, is agreeable: I am disposed, I like, I please, I will.
1. In scenic lang., of players orpieces presented, to please, find favor, give satisfaction:
Dramatic poets, actors, organum a musical instrument, Scaenica A female player, an actress
II it pleases me, it seems good, right, or proper to me; it is my opinion, I am of opinion, I hold, believe, intend, purpose; it is decided, resolved, determine
In the environment in which Christianity arose was surcharged with such phenomena (raving prophecy). In the Greek oracles messages were uttered by priests or priestesses in a state of ecstasy,consciousness being in abeyance, and it was necessary to interpret them to the laity, as both Plutarch and Heraclitus testify... In the orgies of the cult of Dionysus music, dancing, drink, and other means were employed to supereninduce the ecstatic state, in which the devotees ate raw flesh, disported themselves with frenzied enthusiasm in the forests, and indulged in wild phallic excesses.
"The religious ecstasy induced by music expressed itself either in an outburst of emotions, thus giving rise to religious catharsis, or in a transfer to the state of PROPHECY.The ecstatic person was 'in the divinity' and out of normal consciousness. Cicero makes prophecy and madness practically synonymous." (Clark, Elmer T., The Small Sects in America, p. 86, Abingdon)
Note that a prophet or prophesy means to MAKE SELF A PROPHET: they might prophesy the end of the world today but that does not meant that they are TRUE prophets. A writing prophet has been mouth to mouth with the Spirit of Christ. Thereafter, we prophesy by REPEATING that which has been written.
"In this way MUSIC became an important factor in divination. In the mysteries of the MAGNA MATER this relationship between MUSIC and DIVINATION is particularly clear. [The Serpent in the garden was a Musical Enchanter or Diviner: now, SHE has moved in]
"Through the din of tambourines, cymbals (locusts) and flutes the ecstatic worshiper of the GODDESS prophesied the future to those present.
"This relationship also explains why the expression for "making music" and "prophesying" was often identical in the ancient tongues. origen contra celsum 8.67. (Quasten, Johannes, Music and Worship in Pagan and Christian Antiquity, p. 39)
1Tim. 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel,
with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1Tim. 2:10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
1Tim. 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Tim. 2:12 But I suffer not
a woman to teach,
nor to usurp authority over the man,
but to be in silence.
In 1 Corinthians 14 Paul asked if revelation came from them: the meaning of authentein was "to be, or claim to be the author or the originator of something."
Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached? 1 Corinthians 14:36Many converts were just out of paganism and would have acted as a "prophesier" for Apollo (Apollyon) or Dionysus as assuredly that is the meaning of Miriam and the abandoned Levitical prophesiers.
............ If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that
............ what I am writing to you is the Lord's command. 1 Corinthians 14:37
............ ............ If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored. 1 Corinthians 14:38"Dionysus is the wine-god, and thus should be a pleasant fellow, a benefactor. But wine has both positive and negative aspects. It makes people drunk, causes them to behave in strange ways. The Greeks were well aware of the dual natures of wine, mirrored by the dual nature of its god.... He betrays a dual nature: being bright, joyous, and vital for life,
while also having a side that is dark, mysterious and deadly."The adored wife of the fallen Hector, is taken as a concubine by the authentes, who can command her domestic and sexual services. The word also occurs in a homosexual sense in a speech by Theseus, king of Athens, where love of young boys was considered a virtue rather than a vice." ( Charles Trombly, Who Said Women Can't Teach, p. 174)
Women conspiring to RULE OVER to claim authority for authorship of songs and music is the UNIVERSAL meaning of trying to kill off the patriarchal God. As Lucifer is called the singing and harp playing prostitute in the garden of Eden and Eve was wholly seduced like a new bride AND Cain was of that wicked one, Paul is speaking of mysteries to MARK the women who mount up to rule over."dionysus's worship is thus established by the simple means of killing the opposition. It has been suggested that every tragic hero who suffers and dies on stage at the Dionysia, the great dramatic festival at Athens (of the South?), is in fact dionysus himself, being killed."
1Tim. 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Tim. 2:14 And Adam was not deceived,
but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1Tim. 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing,
if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
This does not mean that by having children women save themselves: the authentes deliberately had children so they could offer them up on the altar of Molech worshipped in Israel and Judah. By their unsafe living they also produced handicappted children as a women SEDUCED by the new wineskin heresy can cause Fetal Alchol Syndrome. Sobriety is the opposite of the madness Paul warned about:
4997. sophrosune, so-fros-oo´-nay; from 4998; soundness of mind, i.e. (literally) sanity or (figuratively) self-control: soberness, sobrietyTHE FULFILLMENT OF PROPHECY BEFORE YOUR WATCHING EARSSILENCE DEMANDED BY PAUL TO PREVENT THE OUTBREAK OF WRATH OR MADNESS
This madness is produced when people sing, clap, move around in the "holy place" with or without instruments claiming to be WORSHIP leaders or Christ Himself.
Hesuchazo (g2270) hay-soo-khad'-zo; from the same as 2272; to keep still (intrans.), i.e. refrain from labor, meddlesomeness or speech: - cease, hold peace, be quiet, rest.
Since there are no WAGED ROLES how can you claim that YOU have permission to violate direct commands and fleece the lambs to do it?
g2272. hesuchios, hay- soo´ -khee-os; a prolonged form of a compound probably of a derivative of the base of 1476 and perhaps 2192; properly, keeping one’s seat (sedentary), i.e. (by implication) still (undisturbed, undisturbing): peaceable, quiet.
THE OPPOSITE OF SILENCE IS
Spoudazo I.to be busy, eager to do a thing, zeal, trouble, wast eager to rule. Spoude, 2.with great exertion and difficulty, and so, hardly, scarcely
Job 22:6 For thou hast taken a pledge from thy brother for nought, and stripped the naked of their clothing.Used with Paizo Dance, play on a musical instrument, Pan, dance, play a game, play amourosly, play on a musical instrument h.Ap.206
Job 22:7 Thou hast not given water to the weary to drink, and thou hast withholden bread from the hungry.
Job 22:8 But as for the mighty man, he had the earth; and the honourable man dwelt in it.
Job 22:9 Thou has sent widows away empty, and the arms of the fatherless have been broken.
Job 22:10 Therefore snares are round about thee, and sudden fear troubleth thee;
Job 22:15 Hast thou marked the old way which wicked men have trodden?
Job 22:16 Which were cut down out of time, whose foundation was overflown with a flood:
Job 22:17 Which said unto God, Depart from us: and what can the Almighty do for them?
Job 22:18 Yet he filled their houses with good things: but the counsel of the wicked is far from me.Homer, to Apollo: And among them sings one, not mean nor puny, but tall to look upon and enviable in mien, Artemis who delights in arrows, sister of Apollo.As the Babylon Harlot (Rev 17) she is also Inanna in the Babylonian tablets. She got her father drunk and stole the powers of the ELDERSHIP, playing of musical instruments, sexual and homosexual religious practices. She is the source of the gates of hell Jesus warned about in part. She loved to use up all of the resources building grand temples but then she SOWED DISCORD among the brothers and in a rage tore them down.[200] Among them sport Ares and the keen-eyed Slayer of Argus, while Apollo plays his lyre stepping high and featly and a radiance shines around him, the gleaming of his feet and close-woven vest. And they,[205] even gold-tressed Leto and wise Zeus, rejoice in their great hearts as they watch their dear son playing among the undying gods.
Aristophanes, Frogs
Rightly so, you busybody.
the Muses of the fine lyre love us
And so does horn-crested Pan, playing his reed pipe.
And the harpist Apollo delights in us as well,
On account of the reed, which as a bridge for his lyre
Aeschylus, Agamemnon 140] “Although, O Lovely One, you are so gracious to the tender whelps of fierce lions, and take delight in the suckling young of every wild creature that roams the field, promise that the issue be brought to pass in accordance with these signs, portents[145] auspicious yet filled with ill. And I implore Paean [Apollo] the healer, that she may not raise adverse gales with long delay to stay the Danaan fleet from putting forth,[150] by urging another sacrifice, one that knows no law, unsuited for feast, worker of family strife, dissolving wife's reverence for husband. For there abides wrath--[155] terrible, not to be suppressed, a treacherous guardian of the home, a wrath that never forgets and that exacts vengeance for a child.”
Such utterances of doom, derived from auguries on the march, together with many blessings, did Calchas proclaim to the royal house; and in harmony with this, Sing the song of woe, the song of woe, but may the good prevail!
Why does the silence apply to women and clearly gender-confused males in the literature? F. LaGard Smith said that if you stopped women from speaking in tongues then speaking in tongues would cease. The literature notes that males left to themselves would never set up a ritual of singing, clapping, playing instruments and other non-reverent behavior:
"Philodemus considered it paradoxical that music should be regarded as veneration of the gods while musicians were paid for performing this so-called veneration. Again, Philodemus held as self deceptive the view that music mediated religious ecstasy. He saw the entire condition induced by the noise of cymbals and tambourines as a disturbance of the spirit.
He found it significant that, on the whole, only women and effeminate men fell into this folly.
Accordingly, nothing of value could be attributed to music; it was no more than a slave of the sensation of pleasure, which satisfied much in the same way that food and drink did.
"Similar opinions may be found in the writings of Philo. On one occasion he spoke of the Jewish "Feast of Fasting," used by the Greeks for the Day of Atonement:"
"Now, many a man from the false religions, which are not ashamed of criticising what is noble, will ask: how can there be a feast without carousing and overeating, without the pleasant company of hosts and guests, without quantities of unmixed wine, without richly set tables and highly stacked provisions of everything that pertains to a banquet, without pageantry and jokes,
bantering and merry-making to the accompaniment of flutes and citharas, the sound of drums and cymbals and other effeminate and frivolous music of every king,
enkindling unbridled lusts with the help of the sense of hearing. For in and through the same [pleasures] those persons openly seek their joy, for what true joy is their they do not know.
That is why behind any move for women in rule-over roles you will find a key woman lusting for power.
Isaiah III. For, behold, the Lord, Yahweh of Hosts, takes away from Jerusalem and from Judah supply and support, The whole supply of bread, And the whole supply of water;[2] The mighty man, The man of war, The judge, The prophet, The diviner, The elder,[3] The captain of fifty, The honorable man, The counselor, The skilled craftsman, And the clever enchanter.[4] I will give boys to be their princes, And children shall rule over them
Isaiah 3.III. ecce enim Dominator Deus exercituum auferet ab Hierusalem et ab Iuda validum et fortem omne robur panis et omne robur aquae [2] fortem et virum bellatorem iudicem et prophetam et ariolum et senem [3] principem super quinquaginta et honorabilem vultu et consiliarium sapientem de architectis et prudentem eloquii mystici [4] et dabo pueros principes eorum et effeminati dominabuntur eis
Propheta and prŏphētes , ae, m., = prophêtês, I. a foreteller, soothsayer, prophet
Hariolus I. a soothsayer, prophet, prophetess Chresmodotes one who gives oracles, p;ophet, soothsayer
Boys: Effemino II.Trop., to make womanish, effeminate, to enervate, A.Womanish, effeminate,
Histrio, stage-player, actor, mimus, boaster, used with
Scaena, 1. Of a place like a scene of a theatre, school of rhetoric, display of eloquence.
B. In mal. part., that submits to unnatural lust:pathicus, Cinaedos: a sodomite, catamite, one who dances publicly
Matt. 11:8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft [Catamites] clothing are in kings’ houses.
Matt. 11:16 But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows,
Matt. 11:17 And saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned unto you, and ye have not lamented.1 Kings 14:[22] 10. and will utterly sweep away the house of Jeroboam, as a man sweeps away dung, until it be all gone. Judah did that which was evil in the sight of Yahweh, and they provoked him to jealousy with their sins which they committed, above all that their fathers had done.[23] For they also built them high places, and pillars, and Asherim, on every high hill, and under every green tree;[24] and there were also sodomites in the land: they did according to all the abominations of the nations which Yahweh drove out before the children of Israel.THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST IN ISAIAH DEFINES THE FOR WHOM HELL WAS PREPARED AND THE SOUNDS
Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms (MAGGOTS) cover thee. Is.14:11
H7588 sh'ôn shaw-one' From H7582 ; uproar (as of rushing); by implication destruction: X horrible, noise, pomp, rushing, tumult (X -uous).
H5938 aw-laze' From H5937 ; exultant:that rejoiceth
H5937 alaz aw-laz' A primitive root; to jump for joy, that is, exult: be joyful, rejoice, triumph.And his breath [SPIRIT], as rushing water in a valley, reach reach as far as the neck, and be divided, to confound the nations for their vain error; error also shall pursue them and overtake them. Isaiah 30:28 LXX
Must ye always rejoice, and go into my holy places continually, as they that keep a feast? and must ye go with a pipe, as those that rejoice into the mountain of the Lord, to the God of Israel Isaiah 30:29 LXX
and the Lord shall make his glorious voice to be heard and the wrath of his arm, to make a display with wrath and anger and devouring flame: he shall lighten terribly, and his wrath shall be as water and violent hail. Isaiah 30:30 LXX
For by the voice of the Lord the Assyrians shall be overcome, even by the stroke where with he shall smite them. Isaiah 30:31 LXX
And it shall happen to him from every side, that they from whom their hope of assistance was, in which he trusted, themselves shall war against him in turn with drums and with harp. Isaiah 30:32 LXX
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