The Gospel of Judas:Irenaeus notes: They produce a fictitious history of this kind, which they style the Gospel of Judas. There are other Gnostic sects associated which begin really in the garden of Eden where the serpent (a Musical Enchanter) wholly seduced Eve so that "Cain was OF that wicked one." Cain is derived from "A Musical Note" and his family fathered all of the COMMERCIAL and "magical" practices to steal other people's property.

 Rubel Shelly Sermon Reviews

Rubel Shelly is the most visible participant in an effort to restructure churches of Christ into Community Churches. Because negative comments are blacklisted from FaithMatters on FaithSite.com perhaps to allow judgmental and negative comments to stand unchallenged, we offer the following Biblical corrections to published or posted sermons.

Faithsite.com Reviews of BANNED RESPONSES TO FALSE TEACHING.

Geni, Adepts, Demons Rubel shelly will be teaching The Shaping of Things to Come to train new ministers at Rochester College. The book seems more occult than Christian.

You can read the book and see the PATTERNISM for the EMERGING PREACHERS.

CLICK: The Shaping of Things to Come: Innovation and Mission for the 21 Century Church

J.H.Garrison: "There is God and Jesus: all the rest is opinion."

Alfred T. DeGroot: Those who use the Bible "as it has been taught" are defined as SECTARIANS or CULTS while those who are HIGH CHURCH (Catholic) are called CHURCHES.

Rubel Shelly: There are seven facts about Jesus: Outside the essence of the gospel, there are other features that reflect our history and consensus interpretations of the larger biblical message.

Biblical Christianity is not a religion but a DISCIPLINE: 'Go make disciples, NOT, go make ritualists." Therefore, those whorepudiate the only Christian documents for 2,000 years are anti-Christian by definition.

Therefore, our reviews are not personal attacks but represent the BIBLE BELIEVER'S rebuttal of those who have MOVED BEYOND the Bible.

Yesterday's Sermon Today (1/07/02): Rubel Shelly. Do we literal eat and drink Christ or do we eat the Word which IS Spirit and IS Life?

Today's Sermon Today 12/23/01. Did Mary Live as a Publicly Sexually Shamed Woman?

"Liberal literary criticism allows each community the right to re-write Scripture. The canon (not necessarily of biblical texts, but at least in the meanings of those texts) is not closed.

"It is difficult to know whether Fish intended this as a by-product, but the idea of authority resting in the interpretive community gave rise to narrative theology-- a theology which simply affirms a given community's right to come up with its own interpretation, or to "write" its own new biblical text.  Narrative theology gave rise to various narrative communities-- hence, the arrival of liberation and feminist theologies.

"Narrative theology does not recognize any absolute truth or meaning in a text.  Because Buber is the founder, most narrative theology, especially in Jewish circles, is related to Auschwitz."

"And, what is the purpose of reading texts, for narrative theologians? Why, of course, to affirm the self. Hazards in the Mainline.

Sermon Reviews Link on Left: (From: Original Sermons in Parenthesis)

Anti-church of Christ-ism

Traditions and Traditionalism? (From 12/02/01 Sermon): But This Is the Sabbath! (John 5:1-46) In the Bible a tradition is an authentic teaching, not a view held a very long time

Pharisees, Hypocrites, church of Christers?? Love Lines FROM WOODMONT HILLS (From: Great Themes of the Bible (#27-Our Hearts)

Jesus and the Samaritian woman (From:Great Themes of the Bible (#26-Honesty)

Baptism of the Holy Spirit more important than Water

John 3:5, 6 - New Birth - Water Baptism (From: Light In the Darkness (John 3:1-21)

Today's Sermon Today 11/11/01: Is The Living Water the Baptism of the Holy Spirit (From: Jesus and the Samaritan Woman (John 4:1-42)

Character of Christ

Jesus Showed His Glory By Manufacturing and Drinking Wine? From "When Jesus Is Your Guest (John 2:1-12) Preached October 14, 2001,

Christ our Righteousness: Rubel Shelly Reviewed. Was Molech worship in Amos, Hosea and Isaiah keeping the law but they just were not AUTHENTICALLY RELATIONAL. So also says Terry Briley 2.27.05

Biblical Authority

Improvizing by Using the Right Brain

Traditions and Traditionalism? (From 12/02/01 Sermon): But This Is the Sabbath! (John 5:1-46) In the Bible a tradition is an authentic teaching, not a view held a very long time

John "Sifted" Bible data and Philosophy to arrive at His views. From "When Jesus Is Your Guest (John 2:1-12) Preached October 14, 2001,

Rubel Shelly: From Wineskins To Jubilee To Narrative Theology--The Next Paradigm.

7/2/01 Narrative Theology affirms a given community's right to come up with its own interpretation, or to "write" its own new biblical text. And, what is the purpose of reading texts, for narrative theologians? Why, of course, to affirm the self."

Antionio Gramsci: Post Modernism Defines Narrative Theology

The Pattern Of The Flight of the Geese From: (Leadership in God's Family (Acts 6:1-6)

Matthew Did Not Quote Acurately?: (From: God Reveals Himself To Searching Hearts)

More Stuff on the Magi:

http://www.piney.com/FathArnobHeresII.html
http://www.piney.com/FathArnoHeres1.html
http://www.piney.com/FathClStromataI.html
http://www.piney.com/FathNovGod.html

Biblical Authority Commands, Examples, Inferences (From:What Makes Us Who We Are (5 of 7) A Cappella Music)

Behold the Pattern (From:Lovelines)
 
  • John Calvin Spirit and Word Surely a very different sobriety becomes the children of God. As they feel that without the Spirit of God they are utterly devoid of the light of truth, so they are not ignorant that the word is the instrument by which the illumination of the Spirit is dispensed. They know of no other Spirit than the one who dwelt and spake in the apostles--the Spirit by whose oracles they are daily invited to the hearing of the word.
  • Not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. Christ's Words ARE Spirit and Life.

Bible Text

Hebrews 2 Angels: Satan used music for the fall of the angels
Hebrews 3:
Isaiah 5 The Unfruitful Vineyard (Isa. 5) September 12, 2004
See Terry Briley claiming "there's nothing wrong with their worship." Added 9/18/04

The Church

Change Agenda
Creative Strategies: the Right Brain Innovates
Novensiles - Worshiping The God of Newness And The Winds of Change
The Machiavelli FAX of Life Resisting Change(From:Faith Matters)
I have added links to Machiavelli's Prince to assist you in understand the "Volkish" revival and the universal methods of change:
Machiavelli Prince Ch3-Ch6-Ch7
 
For comparison we will note some of Hitler's message about how to organize the "human" material (emotional) to be used by the elite (the rational) with music being important:
Hitler: Völkish State: Supporters (emotional) and Leaders (Intellectual)
Mein Kampf Vol 2, Ch5, Ch8, Ch11

Ecumenical Movement - All Things To All People

Today's Sermon Today 11/11/01: Affirming Samaritans or Refuting Samaritan and Jewish "worship"? (From: Jesus and the Samaritan Woman (John 4:1-42)

Jesus and the Samaritian woman (From:Great Themes of the Bible (#26-Honesty)

Evangelists - Chosen and Equipped by God's Sovereign Grace.

Calvinistic Gift of Charisma and Evangelism Great Themes of the Bible (#7-Witness)

Are Elders Hand Picked By The Holy Spirit? The Madison Church of Christ Incarnation

God: Who Shall We Worship?

Baptizing Santa Clause (From: The Day Santa Claus Was Baptized)

Shamash The Sun God Making the S.O.N. God into the S.U.N. God. Connect to the Exodus pattern for worship and communigy.

Today's Sermon Today 12/23/01. (From: The Songs of Christmas (Luke 1 & 2) Did Mary Live as a Publicly Sexually Shamed Woman?

Gospel

Rubel Shelly's Statement of the Lost Bible Below.

Knowing only Christ and Him Crucified absolutely removes the CORE ONLY preachers from the payroll."

See how The CORE ONLY preachers Deny The Bible as The CORE document of Christianity!

Holy Spirit

Yesterday's Sermon Today (1/07/02): From Rubel Shelly. Do we literal eat and drink Christ or do we eat the Word which IS Spirit and IS Life?

Today's Sermon Today (12/09/01) Rubel Shelly and Max Lucado Parable.
Great Themes # 6 - (From:#6-Spirit's Indwelling) Spirit Indwelling Max Lucado Holy Spirit Dance Master
Rubel Shelly: Holy Spirit Indwelling More Max And Rubel Dancing
Mystical Dance of Jesus and the Zoe Connection
Great Themes # 8 - (From:Great Themes of the Bible #8-Spirit: His Works) The Spirit: His Work Divine Intoxication?
Great Themes #18 Direct Guidance of the Holy Spirit
John Calvin Spirit and Word
John Wesley - Charismatic Religion New 12/6/2K

Instrumental Music

Jeff Walling Daring To Dance With God

Part One
Part Two Rubel Shelly speaks about the confessional.
Part Three

Jubilee

The Apocalyptic Book of Jubilees
The Book of Jubilees Catholic Encyclopedia
Jubilee Catholic Encyclopedia
Catholic Change to a Legal Jubilee
Christianity Today - Jubilee 99 - Bill Hybels

Kingdom of Christ

Jubilee 98: Latter Reign - Thy Kingdom Come
Jubilee - Denying the Atonement and Kingdom Come
Jubilee - Thy Kingdom Has Come

Tithing

Tithing and Temples Authorize Giving? (From:Great Themes of the Bible (#22-Generosity)

Wineskin Parables

Tell me again about the parable

Woman's Place

In the Church Assembly
The Woman As Prophetess
Women Worship Teams
The Deaconess
Another article on the Deaconess
Council of Nicea on the Deaconess
Catholic Encyclopedia on the Deaconess
Timothy 3 Deaconess
Didascalia (Apostolic Constitutions)
Tertullian - Deaconess

Worship

The Exodus Pattern For Worship and Community?

But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness? Heb. 3:17

Rubel Shelly / John York: The Exodus Pattern for Worship and Community: Retrospective 7/2/01

Rubel Shelly / John York: Rising Up To Play in Musical Idolatry Made The Exodus a Failure

Refuted By: John Chrysostom Homilies Acts Chapter 7, Acts 7, Stephen Against Law, Temple and Ritual

Refuted By: Psalm 106 as a Paradigm for Praise
Refuted by Ezekiel New
Praise And Thanksgiving
The Account in The Epistle of Barnabas New
Instrumental Music as Worship Forbidden By the Law of Moses
Priesthood To Keep People away From God - Levites
Levites - Smith's Bible Dictionary - Levites
Levites - Catholic Encyclopedia
Ephraim Syrus On Our Lord
Augustine-Anti-Manichaean Writings On the Sabbath
 
 
Clapping Hands to replace The Amen

Lifting Holy Hands Mike Cope

Rubel Shelly: (From:Great Themes of the Bible (#17-Praise and Thanksgiving) "I can help direct you in an experience of worship... Praise connects (mediates) us to the source of all things spiritual." OR 2 Peter 1:3? Part Two 10/13/2K
 
Rubel Shelly believes and teaches:

Here is what God wants churches passionate about:
(1) "For God so loved the world that he gave his
one and only Son,
(2) that
whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16).

(3) "Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ" (Acts 2:36).

(4) "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: (5) While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (6) Since we have now been justified by his blood, (7) how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him!" (Rom. 5:8-9).

These are the essentials of Christian faith. It is this core message about Jesus that we share
........... in common with other Bible-believing, cross-proclaiming,
........... resurrection-confessing, born-again persons that constitutes us a church.

Outside the essence of the gospel,
........... there are other features that reflect our history and consensus interpretations
........... of the larger biblical message.


When the kingdom did not come as Christ promised those who wrote the Bible went their own ways. John, for instance, hooked up with a Greek philosopher and borrowed the LOGOS concept and used it to explain Jesus Christ. However, either unknown or ignored is the fact that the LOGOS concept begins where John places it: in Genesis. Too bad that scholars miss the fact that DABAR is the Hebrew word.


Rubel Shelly: They had to strain the story of Jesus through philosophical sieves. They had to create and clarify special terms. They made entrance into their circles a matter of "enlightenment" as reflected in peculiar vocabulary and interpretations.

In the meanwhile, the core gospel has survived two millennia now in its narrative form of telling the big story through collections of little ones about Jesus.

Notice that:

The little stories were strained through the Shelly Sifter of philosophy and the Bible writer's personal agenda: these are not TRUTH as the Gospel is TRUTH.

The Big Story or the CORE GOSPEL has survived through these little stories.

Our conclusion: The CORE is no more reliable than the sum of its parts: why should we trust Rubel Shelly's CORE GOSPEL as the TRUTH?

Dr. Shelly defines the narrative form as writers taking the literature and constructing a narrative for their own time, place, theological agenda and by sifting in Greek philosophy.

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