Rubel Shelly Can Jesus Survive Religion

Can Jesus Survive Religion's Failures?
Religions ALWAYS fail but Jesus has nothing to do with RELIGION meaning superstitious observations administered by professional craftsmen: John calls the speakers, singers and instrument players SORCERERS to be CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.

Jesus established the SECT that is called the WAY: the Road is a very narrow pattern and the foolish cannot even stumble into it.  You cannot be a Christian without being SECTARIAN.

Jesus had a ONE PIECE PATTERN as a School (only) of the Word (only) begining with The Church (synagogue) of Christ (the Rock) in the wilderness AFTER israel fell into instrumental - trinitarian idolatry at Mount Sinai.
  Jesus even survies professionals whom He gave no role and no dole because their task is to collectivize the ECUMENICAL as the kingdom of Satan.

For the Week of July 6, 2015

by Rubel Shelly

Rubel Shelly: One of the great strengths of the Christian faith has been its ability to endure, accommodate, and use the cultural shifts across the centuries without losing its essence. Even in its most misguided forms, the Christian religion has continued to pass along its central message about Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection.

Jesus and the Disciples preached the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM.  The death, burial and resurrection is defined as a FORM or TUPOS.  Only after we have OBEYED that form by being baptized are we THEN free from sin.  Those who reject "Obeying the Gospel) are NOT part of the kingdom: Jesus ADDS them when they REQUEST it at baptism.

The Church of Christ is the SCHOOL of the Prophets and Apostles: it does not go out of style is is always COUNTER-CULTURAL. Those who follow Jesus and speak THE WORD will be despized and rejected and a LITTLE FLOCK and not of the ECUMENICAL defined as the kingdom of Satan.

Rubel Shelly: People in the most abysmal of churches in the most corrupt of cultures still have been counted among the redeemed. There were people in a church Jesus pronounced "dead" whose names were still in his Book of Life (Revelation 3:1-6). They had been granted divine favor on account of God's great love and in spite of church inadequacies or their personal failures.

Theologians no longer have to read the CONTEXT but they can WRITE themselves into the text as a GREATER THAN JESUS.


That's false, of course: the masses or the ecumenical are DEAD and dead means dead.

Rev 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write;
        These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars;
        I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.


Tendo: In the pagan religions they gave lots of attention to tuning or playing their musical  instruments: cornu,” “barbiton,to tune, “tympana tenta tonant palmis, stretching out their bow strings. To shoot, to hurl.

(b). To exert one's self, to strive, endeavor (mostly poet.
b. n partic., to exert one's self in opposition, to strive, try, endeavor, contend  adversus, etc.,id. 34, 34, 1: “contra,
Lucr. 6, 1195: “tormento citharāque tensior,” [Tendo]
2. In partic.: “nervum tendere, in mal. part.,Auct. Priap. 70; cf. Mart. 11, 60, 3.—Hence, tentus, a lecherous man,

ēlŏquĭum , ii, n. id..
I. In Aug. poets, and their imitators among prose writers, for eloquentia, eloquence, * Hor. A. P. 217; * Verg. A. 11, 383; Ov. Tr. 1, 9, 46; id. M. 13, 63; 322 al.; Vell. 2, 68, 1; Plin. 11, 17, 18, § 55.—
II. In late Lat., declaration, communication in gen., Diom. p. 413 P.; Mamert. Pan. Maxim. 9: “eloquia pulchritudinis,fine words, Vulg. Gen. 49, 21; id. Prov. 4, 20 al.
Lucr. 6.1195  Signs of death from lack of water:
The heralds of old death. And in those months
Was given many another sign of death:
The intellect of mind by sorrow and dread
Deranged, the sad brow, the countenance
Fierce and delirious, the tormented ears
Beset with ringings, the breath quick and short

Chorda II. Catgut, a string (of a musical instrument),
B. A rope, cord, for binding a slave : “tunc tibi actutum chorda tenditur, Plaut. Most. 3, 2, 55

I will inform you. My master has arrived from abroad.

In that case, the cord will be stretched for you; thence to the place where iron fetters clink; after that, straight to the cross.

Ringing: Cĭthăra , ae, f., = kithara, I. the cithara, cithern, guitar, or lute.
II. Meton., the music of the cithara, or, in gen., of a stringed instrument, the art of playing on the citharaart.

Jesus the Spirit did not TOLERATE the masses who were spiritually dead. The little bunch READY to die were not told to whine about the folly of Unity in Diversity.

Rev 3:2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain [remnant], that are READY to die:
        for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

g2041. ergon, er´-gon; from a primary (but obsolete ergo (to work); toil (as an effort or occupation); by implication, an act: — deed, doing, labour, work.

g4137. pleroo, play-ro´-o; from 4134; to make replete, i.e. (literally) to cram (a net), level up (a hollow), or (figuratively) to furnish (or imbue, diffuse, influence), satisfy, execute (an office), finish (a period or task), verify (or coincide with a prediction), etc.: — accomplish, x after, (be) complete, end, expire, fill (up), fulfil, (be, make) full (come), fully preach, perfect, supply.

Heb. 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou
        hast received
and heard,
        and hold fast,
        and repent.
        If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief,
        and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Rev 3:4 Thou hast a FEW names even in Sardis
        which have not defiled their garments;
        and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

  Rev 3:5 He that OVERCOMETH,
        the same shall be clothed in white raiment;
        and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life,
        but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Rev 3:6 He that hath an ear,
        let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches

Rev. 3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door,
        and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength,
        and hast kept my WORD, and hast not denied my name.
Rev. 3:10 Because thou hast kept the WORD of my patience,
        I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation,
        which shall come upon all the world, to TRY them that dwell upon the earth.

g3056. logos, log´-os; from 3004; something said
See Rubel Shelly on the Logos

LOGOS or rational discord of God made audible and capable of being recorded. 

Logos 2. generally, account, reckoning, phunai ton hapanta nika l.
Opposite ek tēs epagōgēs
Opposite muthos, as history to legend, Ti.26e; “poiein muthous all' ou logous
Opposite. epilogos,
Opposite prooimion,
opp. phōnē, Arist.Pol.1253a14;
prose, opp. poiēsis,
opp. emmetra, ib.1450b15 (

l. pezoi, OPPOSITE. poiētikē, D.H.Comp.6; opp. poiēmata, ib.15; “koina kai poiēmatōn kai logōn

Opposite to epithumia
 A. desire, yearning, longing after a thing, desire of or for it, Theaomai :--gaze at, behold, mostly with a sense of wonder3. view as spectators
Opposite Pathos  A. that which happens to a person or thing, incident, accident,
where this incident took place, unfortunate accident,
2. what one has experienced, good or bad, experience
II. of the soul, emotion, passion (“legō de pathē . . holōs hois hepetai hēdonē ē lupēArist.EN1105b21), “sophiē psukhēn pathōn aphaireitai
I. verbal expression or utterance, lego, lexis
      -Lexis A.speech, OPPOSITE ôidê

-ôidê, of song 5. = eppsdê, spell, incantation
4. text of an author,  OPPOSITE exegesis [Peter's private interpretation outlaws exegesis]

Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write;
        These things saith the Amen,
        the faithful and true witness,
        the beginning of the creation of God;

Rev 3:15 I know thy works,
        that thou art neither cold nor hot:
        I would thou wert cold or hot.

Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm,
        and neither cold nor hot,
        I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest,
        I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing;
        and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

Rev 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich;
        and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed,
        and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear;
        and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

Rubel Shelly: Some who have been kicked out of churches became more vitally engaged in the Kingdom of God for their sufferings — whether Luther or Tyndale or myriad individuals and groups whose names are unknown to us but precious to Christ.


paratēr-ēsis , eōs, , observation, dieilēmmenoi eis paratērēsin kept under surveillance, so that it can be observed, Ev. Luc. 17.20 : in bad sense, close observation, to detect faults, ets
2.. observance of rules,  pathos [a^, eos, to, paskhōpoieō ,
empirical observation, Opposite. logismos, so kata historian ē  Against Recorded History
poieō ,A. make, produce, first of something material, as manufactures, works of art your skhēma,
4. after Hom., of Poets, compose, write, p. dithurambon, epea
p. theogoniēn Hellēsi p. Phaidran, Saturous, [the BEAST] kōmōdian, tragōdian,  “palinōdian
b. represent in poetry, c. describe in verse,theon en epesin
d. invent,kainous theous (the BEAST is a KAINOS or New Style of music or Satyric Drama.)
pathos  A.that which happens to a person or thing, incident, accident, II. of the soul, emotion, passion
sophia , A.cleverness or skill in handicraft and art, in music and singing, tekhnē kai s. h.Merc.483, cf. 511; in poetry, divination, sensation (including pleasure and pain)V. Rhet., emotional style or treatment, to sphodron kai enthousiastikon p. Longin.8.1; “pathos poiein3. of sacrifices, festivals, etc., celebrate,

Observātiō ōnis, observo, a watching, observance, investigation: observationes animadvertebant, your searches for evidence: siderum.— Circumspection, care, exactness: summa in bello movendo.
D.  Regard, respect, esteem, reverence (post-class.): “religionibus suam observationem reddere,Val. Max. 1, 1, 8: “Christianitatis, Cod. Th. 12, 1, 112: divina,i
E. Display, outward show (eccl. Lat.): “non venit regnum Dei cum observatione,Vulg. Luc. 17, 20.—

Religious observations are carefully crafted to take control of all of one's attention. That is the worship concept with is to be directed only to God.

Tendo: In the pagan religions they gave lots of attention to tuning or playing their musical  instruments: cornu,” “barbiton,to tune, “tympana tenta tonant palmis, stretching out their bow strings. To shoot, to hurl.

(b). To exert one's self, to strive, endeavor (mostly poet.
b. n partic., to exert one's self in opposition, to strive, try, endeavor, contend  adversus, etc.,id. 34, 34, 1: “contra, Lucr. 6, 1195: “tormento citharāque tensior,” [Tendo]
2. In partic.: “nervum tendere, in mal. part.,Auct. Priap. 70; cf. Mart. 11, 60, 3.—Hence, tentus, a lecherous man,

Rubel Shelly:  Over the past 500 years, a type of institutional church has functioned variously as a club, nation-state, forensic society, and irrelevance — all too frequently obscuring the presence and activity of God in the world. It taught the gospel as laws and steps, creedal statements and confessions. There was little tolerance for leaving anything unexplained and even less tolerance for persons who did not hail the explanation offered — contrived as it might have been — as conclusive. The Christian faith was termed a "system," and one's place within that system was determined by an all-or-nothing attitude toward it.

Rubel Shelly hates the PATTERN but uses the word PARADIGM which means system: The new Liberated church IMPOSE a few more pieces to the pattern which are anti-christian such as the always-pagan trinity. Jesus came only to find and save a LITTLE FLOCK of lost spirits: He does not pray for the world or the ECUMENICAL and He said that GOD HIDES from the wise or Sophists. A sophist is a performance speaker, singer, instrument player, actor or dancer: ALL of these are the only definition of LEGALISTS meaning that you have to have skill, learn, practice, perform, be paidi and be judged by RIDGED LAWS.

Rubel Shelly and the progressives HATE the Regulative Principle and think that it was invented by John Calvin. In fact all protestant groups claim to be apostolic meaning Built Upon (educated by) the Prophets and Apostles.  Scripture clearly removes everything not being A School of the Word.  That was a first principle of the American Restoration Movement which could define the LOGOS.

1. Christ prophesied and Jesus put into place "The SECT that is called the WAY."
2. The Way is the ROAD which is a very narrow, exclusive PATTERN

John 8:23 And he SAID unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above:
        ye are OF this world; I am NOT OF this world.
[ecumenical self-willed]
John 8:24
I SAID therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins:
        for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 8:25
Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus SAITH unto them,
         Even the same that I SAID unto you from the beginning. [Not Genesis 1:1]

Jesus obeyed the CENI: you don't need to!

John 8:26 I have many things to SAY and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true;
        and I SPEAK to the world those things which I have HEARD of him.

John 8:28 Then SAID Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man,
........... then shall ye know that I am he,
........... And that I do nothing of myself;
........... but as my Father hath taught me,
........... I SPEAK these things.

Looking for God's inferences

John 8:29 And he that sent me is with me:
........... the Father hath not left me alone;
........... for I do alway those things that please him.

You don't have to!

John 8:30 As he SPAKE these words, many believed on him.

John 8:31 Then SAID Jesus to those Jews which believed on him,
........... If ye continue in MY WORD, [Logos: regulative principle: CENI]
             then are ye
my disciples indeed;

You don't have to!

John 8:32 And ye shall know THE TRUTH, and the truth shall make you free.

John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
2Cor. 6:7 By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left,
James 1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

John 8: 35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever:
         but the
Son abideth ever.
John 8: 36
If the Son therefore shall make you free,
        ye shall be free indeed.

The Kenites or Cainites gained control of the Priesthood almost from the beginning: God had turned them over to worship the STARRY HOST because of musical idolatry were NOT worthy of hearing Jesus. Therefore, He spoke to them in parables. THESE were predestinated to be lost based on their own choices.

When people question the Words of Christ they question God and HE sends strong delusions so that they believe a lie and ae damned. When you fall you cannot get up and THAT was the message about the FALL produced by music.

John 8:37 I know that ye are Abrahams seed; but ye seek to kill me,
........... because my WORD (logos) hath no place in you.

John 8: 38 I SPEAK that which I have seen with my Father:
........... and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. [the Devil]

John 8: 39 They answered and SAID unto him,
........... Abraham is our father. Jesus SAID unto them,
........... If ye were Abrahams children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

Rubel Shelly: When agreement on some fine point of doctrine was not forthcoming, individuals and groups felt free to break off and further fragment the body for the sake of maintaining doctrinal purity. Thus came the formation of literally hundreds of denominations and non-denominations, with each group believing there could be unity only when others renounced their error and embraced its interpretation.

The Spirit OF Christ in the prophets defined His future REST both inclusively and exclusively.  The Rest defines a SCHOOL. The church in the wilderness RESTED to Read and Memorize the Word of God.  .

Rubel Shelly: Catholics have done it. Protestants have, too. Churches of Christ have been BAD at it.

Rubel Shelly specificially means the ANTI-INSTRUMENTALISTS upon whom Rubel heaps all of the RACA Words.  "Vocal or instrumental rejoicing or rhetoric" was outlawed for the Church of Christ (the Rock) in the wilderness.  Those groups flowing out of Calvinism means that there is a CLEAR STREAM being followed from the wilderness onward NOT to violate the commandments and examples of NOT repudiating the Word by imposing Instrumental "Music" which God calls noise.

Churches of Christ by that name existed in all periods of history and not were so Biblically deprived that they added instrumental noise to violate all of the commands and examples.  The big lie is that Churches of Christ sowed discord because they REFUSED to have imposed that which they had never used in recorded history.

John Calvin called for Restoring The Church of Christ by simply REMOVING that which was NOT Biblical or ANTI-Biblical.

  1. Churches of Christ were against any kind of "unity" before the 1832 meeting.
  2. The 1832 agreement defended the Bible as the only "pattern" for faith and practices and ALL rejected the organ.
  3. Alexander Campbell and similar preachers DENIED that there was any unity (organizational) AFTER the 1832meeting.
  4. Not even fraternal gaterings were possible after the Disciplles followed William Miller and formed a society to SAVE all of the Jews to ENABLE the return of Jesus in 1844.

The DIVISION was within the Disciples-Christians after the introduction of the ogran (only we promise) and the split was defacto by 1890 but not a SECTARIAN split before the founding of the NACC in 1927 and completed in 1971 after which the Stone-Campbell Movement began and Rubel Shelly had launched another attack in 1984.

SECTARIANS or only those who IMPOSE something not required to be A School of Christ.

Rubel Shelly: So have Baptists and Pentecostals. It's everywhere! And the marvel of it all is that God has been working through those flawed forms and incoherent formulas to reach people, save people, and transform people.

That is passing a PROFOUND JUDGMENT that people are saved who call Christ in the Prophets, Jesus' commands and the New Testament commands for baptism LIARS. Believeth nots or the Apistos who COMPLY NOT are defined as TREACHEROUS and not part of the LITTLE FLOCK

Rubel Shelly:  "So many people come to church with a genuine desire to hear what we have to say," Dietrich Bonhoeffer wrote of himself and his fellow-preachers, "yet they are always going back home with the uncomfortable feeling that we are making it too difficult for them to come to Jesus."

Tall all missed Jesus 101.  Theology in the Greek world meant only the study of Abaddon or Apollon.  Jesus cast out the laded burden and burden laders. Why should people have to thread the needle and be extorted in tithes and offerings to hear Shelly?


All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. Matthew 11:27

Come unto me all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you REST. Matthew 11:28

Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. Matthew 11:29

We must go OUTSIDE of the gates or the temple complex and suffer if we are a Christian or Disciple which is a STUDENT ONLY.  Students don't go to religious operations defined as lying wonders.

Must ye always rejoice, and go into my holy places continually, as they that keep a ieast? and must ye go with a pipe, as those that rejoice into the mountain of the Lord, to the God of Israel Isaiah 30:29 LXX

The LXX asks a question. And from the use of the flute we know that the people were not worshiping God. Rather, this processional describes the procession to Topheth where children were burned in the Molech idol. The pipe, never used for religious purposes, is the Hebrew:

Chalil (h2485) khaw-leel'; from 2490; a flute (as perforated):- pipe.

And the harp, and the viol, the tabret, and pipe, and wine, are in their feasts:
but they regard not the work of the Lord,
neither consider the operation of his hands. Is.5:12

and the Lord shall make his glorious voice to be heard and the wrath of his arm, to make a display with wrath and anger and devouring flame: he shall lighten terribly, and his wrath shall be as water and violent hail. Isaiah 14:30 LXX

For by the voice of the Lord the Assyrians shall be overcome, even by the stroke where with he shall smite them. Isaiah 14:31 LXX

And it shall happen to him from every side, that they from whom their hope of assistance was, in which he trusted, themselves shall war against him in turn with drums and with harp. Isaiah 14:32 LXX

Rubel Shelly: Religion hasn't killed what Jesus started. When we cut through the forms and failings of church history and look past our own bungling, Jesus is still there.

Jesus is the ONLY Rabbi or teacher: Jesus is ONLY there when the elders teach that which has been taught.  Jesus is OUTSIDE of the gates of temple complex just as the godly Jews were OUTSIDE and did not participate in the worship of the starry hosts.

James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.


thrēsk-eia A.religious worship, cult, ritual, of Apollon
3. in bad sense, religious formalism, “anti hosiotētosPh.1.195; th. biōtikē vulgar superstition

Hdt. 2.37 Their religious observances are, one may say, innumerable. [4] But also they receive many benefits: they do not consume or spend anything of their own; sacred food is cooked for them, beef and goose are brought in great abundance to each man every day, and wine of grapes is given to them, too.

Threskeia is named after Orpheus or That Thracian. If men and women are SILENT and attend School of Christ which is not the RELIGION Shelly promotes then religion or wrath ororgy will not break out.

"Nor are these Thracian orgies, from which the word Worship (threskia) is said to be derived; nor rites and mysteries of Orpheus, whom the Greeks admired so much for his wisdom that they devised for him a lyre which draws all things by its music. Nor the tortures of Mithras


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