Musical Worship Teams - Woman Pastoral Musicians
Musical Worship Teams are the overseers of the flock. Oversight means to stand over or before the church in order to teach. Those who stand before the congregation to teach--without a tune--take away the elder's authority. Worship facilitors even help lead the worshipers into the presence of God. Paul outlaws any speaking or "stand up" (non-sedentary) role for women in the short period when the entire church comes into assembly for prayer and taking the Lord's Supper. woman pastoral musicians, woman pastoral musicians,
You may want to look at these two articles to see that those who intend to stand between the paying "audience" and their God can just as easily and consistently deliberately pervert God's Words and make them into authority to do what God in His Word is condemning.
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The shepherd or senior males who are "already laboring to the point of exhaustion in preaching and teaching (Lenski)" do not organize and delegate. He does not use a hireling for his most important job. He cannot delegate this to a musical worship team. His job is to place the sheep in front of food and water and allow the lambs to grow up naturally. His job is defined by a word only applied to senior males:
Prostemi (g4291) pro-is'-tay-mee; to stand before in upright position; i.e. in rank to preside, or (by impl.) to practice: - maintain, be over, rule.
Pro (g4253) pro; a prim. prep.; "fore", i.e. in front of, prior (fig. superior) to: - above, ago, before, or ever. In comp. it retains the same significations.
Mutual Ministry: Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do. 1 Thessalonians 5:11
In the Lord Oversight: And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour (to feel fatigue or exhaustion) among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish (caution or warn) you; 1 Thessalonians 5:12
And to esteem them very highly in love for their works (expend great energy) sake. And be at peace among yourselves. 1 Thessalonians 5:13
Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men. 1 Thessalonians 5:14
Performing for others is not defined anywhere as one of the "exhausting labors" or spiritual gifts which men must endure as they confront primarily other men and keep them orderly.
Women who stand exposed as the focus of the "audience" and teach by singing or any other role are taking the oversight (no elder's approval can change the fact). They are in an upright position they preside and they rule by teaching and admonishing or collecting or ushering the flock.
Those who stand before the flock to teach or entertain or just to "get em back Sunday night, dead or alive," are its true and only shepherds. This is true because buildings and grounds or administering all of those make-work programs is not shepherding the flock. There is nothing the Word-oriented shepherd can do to counteract the token teaching through song and sermon because they have closed down the rational gate to the mind which can filter out false garbage or just "praise the lords."
The elders were male and matured, married, proven were "pointed out" or identified and followed because they were already doing the job. They were chosen as "apt to teach." "Apt" means "able and willing." It does not mean: "He is as apt to chase coons as he is to teach."
If shepherds do not teach then they have abandoned their "walled corral" and the wolves take over and, almost always, eat the sheep. These elders were not the young lions or the raging bulls who have no true shepherding skills:
Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine. 1Ti.5:17
True singing is a way for a "one another" ministry of teaching and counseling. When individual (solo) "teaching and admonishing" is to be done it is done by the shepherds or by a one-another teaching of the Words of Christ. Your words do not count!
Noutheteo (g3560) noo-thet-eh'-o; to put in mind, i.e. by implication: to caution or reprove gently: - admonish, warn.
This is more often a one another task, in and out of assembly, by those who are filled up with spirit (the Words of Christ Jn 6:63). Then, they are equipped to teach and gently reprove one another. There is no reproof with "Lord, Lord" forms of praising. The senior males are not to be the "praise the Lord leaders." The way he can "praise the Lord" is to tell everyone what God has done in God's own adequate words.
Paul allows no room for self-composed songs or sermons in this gathering. Anything said must be inspired or read. This leaves the well-understood option available to the none inspired at this time: "give your self to reading and doctrine." Professional preachers who reject this usurp the authority of the elders and the whole church and place their body squarely in the face of Jesus to keep Him from seeing His flock.
Since an overseer is entrusted with God's work, he must be blameless--not overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain. Tit 1:7
Rather he must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined. Tit 1:8
He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it. Tit 1:9
For there are many rebellious people, mere talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision group. Ti 1:10
They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain. Tit 1:11
The professional, dominant "pastors" should be careful as they permit and enlist women to Co-minister with them in a public, paid way while publically trying to silence "them what pays them." The church may catch on to the fact that the dominant males do not have a legitimate "berth as Captain on the Good Ship Lollipop" except "by your leave" of the congregation needing external help which often does more harm than good..
First, it should be noted that Paul restricts any preside-over, preaching role to those who are supernaturally inspired by Christ to deliver His Word. If there is no inspired speaker or prophet then he, along with the women, should just sit down and shut up.
This permits Christ to speak to the assembly in the already-preached sermons and already-composed songs of inspiration. There is no doubt that many preachers believe that they are inspired to usurp authority over the men and women by cutting-and-pasting Christ's sermons. It is reasonable that self-promoting women "want some of that."
Second, since there were no inspired apostles selected, taught and Spirit empowered by Jesus who were women, Paul said the same thing he said to men who are not apostles or prophets speaking under direct inspiration:
Let your women (wife, mother) keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 1Co 14:34
Larger than this article will accomodate is the overwhelming evidence that beginning wiht Eve, women were prominent in leading Israel away from the objective Word of God. The "law" says by example and it says by defining male leadership.
Paul's silence to the Corinthians was the verbal form:
Sigao (g4601) see-gah'-o; from 4602; to keep silent (trans. or intrans.): - keep close (secret, silence), hold peace.
Esuchia (g2271) hay-soo-khee'-ah; feminine of 2272; (as noun) stillness, i.e. desistance from bustle or language: - quietness, silence.
Esuchios (g2272) hay-soo'-khee-os; a prol. form of a comp. prob. of a der. of the base of 1476 and perh. 2192 (to hold); prop. keeping one's seat (sedentary), i.e. (by impl.) still (undisturbed, undisturbing): - peaceable, quiet.
Hedraios (g1476) hed-rah'-yos; to sit; sedentary, i.e. (by impl.) immovable: - settled, stedfast
When women pick the "staff" they usurp the role of the elders and the entire flock. When they perform any function during the time when "the whole church comes together" in a stand up role she is not keeping her seat and she is not sedentary and she is violating the commandment of Paul and she is violating will of Lord Jesus Christ. God may try the male elders in juvenile court but you have a responsibility not to disturb the peace of the assembly by taking a prominant, visible role.
Even the presiding elder of the synagogue (Jesus or an inspired person excepted) was expected to "take his seat." (James 2:2f and the Talmud). That is, to keep from lording it over the flock the teacher sat down. He didn't dance, prance and swing his arms around his head.
If presumptious men usurp the authority of Christ and stand between Him and the "audience" it should not be surprising that women presumptious enough to see their "talent" in arranging sounds in a pleasing order -- very work-intensive -- as a work pleasing to God just try to parrot the males. However, two wrongs won't make a right.
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