Ken Cukrowski Uncovered Prophets in 1 Corinthians 11

ACU seems to want the uncovered prophesiers in Corinth COVERED: they were called sorceress praecantricx, I. an enchantress, sorceress. 

Miriam known as "bitter waters" was an Egyptian princess: she is one of the prototypical usurping women. As a "prophetess" she, like the Jacob-cursed and God-abandoned levites were SOOTHSAYERS which was often the same as a SORCERESS.
Al Maxey Miriam as Musical Worship Minister

Deborah the Prophetess  Deborah is called a Prophetess which means a SINGER. When the male population evolves into weasels then a Deborah may have to take the lead.

Rubel Shelly on Deborah

Huldah may have been the wife of a prophet but not a writing prophet: her job description defines her as the official LIBRARIAN.  Not even kings had a clue about the Law of Moses because the Monarchy did not follow the Law after God turned them over to worship the starry host.

Musical prophesiers expanded in Ezekiel

See our review of Charles Daily Part One
Part Two
More Data on Dailey's musical prophesying
See our collection of resources about DEVIL WORSHIP
And a similar Serpent Worship

The Corinthian women: speaking in tongue

Gender Inclusive and Egalitarian Churches of Christ
Gal328 Gender Justice in Church of Christ

Doug Hurley Your Sons and Daughters shall Prophesy at ACU
See Ken Cukrowski Women in Ministry at ACU
See Ken Cukrowski claiming that the old and new testaments authorizes women prophets.
Jeff Walling Women in Ministry

Mike Cope Women Worship Leaders 

Russ Adcox Women in Ministry
Carroll D. Osburn Women and Change Agenda

Wiley Clarkson one of Ken Cukrowski's disciples
John Mark Hicks Women in the Assembly: Prophesying
Rubel Shelly Homosexuals and Women justice
1. Rubel Shelly Women in God's Service

2. Rubel Shelly: Women in God's Service: Jesus Life and Service
Al Maxey Miriam as Musical Worship Minister

1.15.13 The Spirit OF Christ is the "Thus saith the Law." Christ defined the future REST both INCLUSIVELY and EXCLUSIVELY. As Qahal, synagogue, ekklesia or Church of Christ (the Rock) in the Wilderness and in the Prophets which constitutes THE LAW as far as the foundation upon which His church is built or EDUCATED.

Isaiah 57:20 But the wicked are like the troubled sea,
        when it cannot REST, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.

Isaiah 57:20] impii autem quasi mare fervens quod quiescere non potest et redundant  fluctus eius in conculcationem et lutum

Quĭesco ,quiērunt Aequora,the waves are at rest, do not rise, standing waters,
2.  Act., to cause to cease, render quiet, stop, etc.: “laudes,Sen. Herc. Oet. 1584.—Hence, quĭētus , a, um, P. a., at rest, calm, quiet
4. To make a pause in speaking: quiescere, id est, hēsukhazein, ludendi est quidem modus
Silence: lūdo , B. To play, sport, frisk, frolic: “dum se exornat, nos volo Ludere inter nos,have some fun, dance,
Silence:  A. go sport, play with any thing, to practise as a pastime, amuse one's self with any thing “carmina pastorum,
Silence: B.  to sport, dally, wanton (cf. "amorous play," Milton, P. L. 9, 1045): “scis solere illam aetatem tali ludo ludere,Plaut. Most. 5,
Silence: C. Ludere aliquem or aliquid, to play, mock, imitate, mimic a person or thing imitate work, make believe work,
lūdo , II.A to play on an instrument of music, to make or compose music or song,B. To play, sport, frisk, frolic: “dum se exornat, nos volo Ludere inter nos,have some fun, dance, “carmina [SING AND PLAY]
B.  to sport, dally, wanton (cf. "amorous play," Milton, P. L. 9, 1045): “scis solere illam aetatem tali ludo ludere,Plaut. Most. 5,
C. Ludere aliquem or aliquid, to play, mock, imitate, mimic a person or thing imitate work, make believe work, 
Mŏdus 2. The measure of tones, measure, rhythm, melody, harmony, time; in poetry, measure, metre, mode: “vocum,Cic. Div. 2, 3, 9: musici, Quint. 1, 10, 14: lyrici,Ov. H. 15, 6: “fidibus Latinis Thebanos aptare modos,Hor. Ep. 1, 3, 12: Bacchico exsultas (i. e. exsultans) modo, Enn. ap. Charis [grace]. p. 214 P. (Trag. v. 152 Vahl.): “flebilibus modis concinere,Cic. Tusc. 1, 44, 106: saltare [dance] ad tibicinis modos, to the music or sound of the flute, Liv. 7, 2: “nectere canoris Eloquium vocale modis,Juv. 7, 19.—Fig.: verae 
Jesus as the WORD is the LOGOS or rational discourse of God:

1. plea, pretext, ground, would have admitted of an explanation,
2. statement of a theory, argument, to be explained
c. in Logic, proposition, whether as premiss or conclusion
d. rule, principle, law, as embodying the result of logismos
4. thesis, hypothesis, provisional ground,
5.reason, ground 6.formula (wider than definition, but freq. equivalent thereto), term expressing reason,
7.reason, law exhibited in the world-process,
c. in Neo-Platonic Philos., of regulative and formative forces, derived from the intelligible and operative in the sensible universe
IV. inward debate of the soul 1.thinking, reasoning,  explanation, opposite perception,
2. reason as a faculty,
V. continuous statement, narrative (whether fact or fiction), oration lego
4.speech, delivered in court, assembly
VI. verbal expression or utterance, lego, lexis
Lexis A.speech, opposite ôidę, 1.art of song 5. = eppsdę, spell, incantation
4.text of an author, opposite exegesis [Peter's private interpretation outlaws exegesis]
2. common talk, report, tradition d. the talk one occasions, repute, mostly in good sense, good report, praise, honour,
3. discussion, debate, deliberation, c. dialogue, as a form of philosophical debate,

1. divine utterance, oracle, expression, utterance, speech regarded formally,

Isaiah 57:21 There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

Musical worship discorders boast about Worship Wars: a musical instrument is DEFINED as a machine for making war or the shock and awe of religious "lying wonders. They have the liberty to "UPSET your comfort zones" to force you to be THEIR feeder and servant.

Pax , I.  peace, concluded between parties at variance, esp. between belligerents; a treaty of peace; tranquillity, the absence of war, amity, reconciliation after a quarrel, public or private
PEACE IS: B. 
Transf. 1. Grace, favor, pardon, assistance of the gods: “pacem ab Aesculapio petas,4. Pax, as an interj., peace! silence! enough! pax,

The Jews had been turned over to worship the starry host: they called the golden calf their Lord but then never worshipped Jehoval even though they pretended that they were.

Those who follow the pattern of the Monarchy DO it because they ARE impious
impĭus without reverence or respect for God, one's parents, or one's country; irreverent, ungodly, undutiful, unpatriotic; abandoned, wicked, impious.Tītan Saturnus,bellum injustum atque impium,Cic. Rep. 2, 17   “loqui,” i. e. treasonable
Tītan  g). Diana, as sister of Sol, Ov. M. 3, 173.—
(d). Circe, [CHURCH] as daughter of Sol. Ov. M. 14, 382; 14, 438. — thunderbolts of his son Jupiter, precipitated into Tartarus:
B. Tītānĭăcus , a, um, adj., of or belonging to Titan or the Titans, Titanic: dracones, sprung from the Titans' blood, Ov. M. 7, 398. —
C. Tītānis , ĭdis or ĭdos, adj. f., Titanic: “pugna,of the Titans, Juv. 8, 132: “Circe, as daughter of Sol,
Sāturnus As the sun-god of the Phśnicians, = Baal, Curt. 4, 3, 15: “Saturni sacra dies,” i. e. Saturday, Tib. 1, 3, 18: “Saturni Stella,the planet Saturn, Cic. N. D. 2, 20, 52; 2, 46, 119; id. Div. 1, 39, 85.—As subst.: Sāturnus ,  “also pater (sc. Superum),Verg. A. 4, 372; Ov. M. 1, 163: versus, the Saturnian verse, the oldest kind of metre among the Romans, “carmen, metrum,
2. Subst.: Sāturnālĭa also Bacchanalia, Compitalia, Vinalia, and the like), a general festival in honor of Saturn, beginning on the 17th of December and lasting several days; the Saturnalia,verba,Tib. 1, 3, 52: “tumultus,Hor. C. 4, 4, 46: “clamor,
Tŭmultus
A.  Disturbance, disquietude, agitation, tumult of the mind or feelings: “tumultus Mentis,Hor. C. 2, 16, 10; Luc. 7, 183: “pulsata tumultu pectora, Petr. poët. 123: sceleris tumultus,Hor. S. 2, 3, 208.—
B.  Of speech, confusion, disorder: “sermonis,Plin. 7, 12, 10, § 55: “criminum,cantuum truces war songs
1.07.13 Doug Hurley Your Sons and Daughters shall Prophesy at ACU.

The Satanic THESIS is that "prophesying" is the world's oldest profession. Through music and other madness they pretended that they were speaking for a god.  For that they no longer had to work but became the priest-prophet of a tribe. The Godly ANTITHESIS is that only the Spirit OF Christ speaks through through the writing prophets. Peter said that Jesus whom God made to be both Lord and Christ made these prophecies more certain. After he and others left a memory of their eye- and ear- witness, anyone who continue to claim prophetic power would be marked as a false teacher.  There is a large band of purpose driven "scholars" promoting a role in churches as a PROPHET to RATTLE your rest Jesus died to give you. 


The Word PROPHESYING speaks of the feelings induced by MUSIC: the clergy claimed that the arousal or frenzy was PROOF that the gods or demons were dwelling INSIDE of them: that is the goal of ENTHUSIASTIC pseudo worship. The "prophet" words will be repeated several times as it relates to different people. Including Mirian and the Levites, prophesying was soothsaying or sorcery for which God casts you alive into the lake of fire.
Ken Cukrowski Women in Ministry ACU scrambles Paul's letters to claim and promote the idea that Paul was wrong: women may fully participate in "ministry" whatever that be..

Wiley Clarkson one of Ken Cukrowski's disciples

Mike Cope A Cappella Music

Mike Cope Women Worship Leaders

Cukrowski, Ken (2001) "The Problem of Uncovered Prophets: Exploring 1 Corinthians 11.2-16," Leaven: Vol. 9: Iss. 3, Article 7. Available at: http://digitalcommons.pepperdine.edu/leaven/vol9/iss3/7 The Problems of Uncovered Prophets: Exploring 1 Cor 11:pr2-16

KEN CUKROWSKI

Headcoverings, prophets, the cryptic phrase "because of the angels"-what is going on in 1 Cor 11:2-16? Certainly one of the more difficult passages in the New Testament, 1 Cor 11:2-16 presents an array of vexing problems, each one impacting the interpretation of the passage. Despite my desire to address all difficulties in the text, engage the academic literature, and discuss the application of the text, I win restrict myself to the task of a clear explanation of an apparently murky passage. We begin with the context of the passage, and then move to some of the key issues. *

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PALAESTRIO
For you to bring her home at once to your house as your wife, and, for that reason, to bring her there dressed out, so that she may wear her locks with her hair arranged, and fillets after the fashion of matrons33, and may pretend that she is your wife; so you must instruct her.

33 The fashion of matrons: The "vitta" [fillet or chaplet worn round the head;] was a band which encircled the head, and served to confine the tresses of the hair. It was worn by maidens, and by married women also, among the Romans; but that assumed on the day of marriage was of a different form from that used by the virgins. It was not worn by women of light character, or even by the "libertinae," or liberated female slaves; so that it was not only deemed an emblem of chastity, but of freedom also

CONTEXT OF 1 CORINTHIANS

How does 1 Cor 11:2-16 fit within the letter as a whole? First Corinthians is not Paul's first contact with the Corinthians. Paul founds the church at Corinth on his first visit to the city (Acts 18:1-8) with the assistance of Silas and Timothy (Acts 18:5; 2 Cor I: 19). After a stay of eighteen months in Corinth (Acts 18:11), Paul moves and spends the next three years in Ephesus (Acts 19:1-20:1,31). During his time in Ephesus, Paul writes a letter, now lost, to Corinth (1 Cor 5:9).


KEN CUKROWSKI: Apparently, Paul hears quite a bit about the church in Corinth. He hears from Chloe's people about quarreling in Corinth (1 Cor 1:11); Paul mentions other reports about Corinth throughout his letter (1 Cor 5:1; 11:18; 15:12); and the three envoys carrying the letter, Stephanus, Achaicus, and Fortunatus (1 Cor 16:17-18), likely converse with Paul about the contents of the letter.

Speaking of the musical idolatry at Mount Sinai:

"It is a great mistake to imagine that back of their idolatry and their idol sacrifices there is nothing but an empty vacuity. True enough, as 1 Cor 8:4 makes plain, the gods of the idols have no existence whatever; no being by the name of Jupiter exists, and this is true with respect to all other gods. But something does exist, something that is far more terrible than these pseudo-gods, namely an entire kingdom of darkness which is hostile to God, a host of demons or fallen angels who are ruled by the greatest of their number, namely Satan, Eph. 2:3; 6:12. (Lenski)

Enoch 7:1 It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those days, that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful.

2 And when the angels, (3) the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enamoured of them, saying to each other,
        Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men,
        and let us beget children.

See the generation of Vipers and the Crooked Generation

(3) An Aramaic text reads "Watchers" here (J.T. Milik, Aramaic Fragments of Qumran Cave 4 [Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1976], p. 167).

Dan. 4:17 This matter IS by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men. 

1 Co.11:10  For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. 1 Co.11:10 

Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, Col2:18

Clement in Stromata I

For the false prophets possessed the prophetic name dishonestly,
        
being prophets, but prophets of the liar.

For the Lord says, "Ye are of your father the devil
; and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar, and the father of it."

But among the lies, the false prophets also told some true things. And in reality they prophesied "in an ecstasy, as" 192 the servants of the apostate. And the Shepherd, the angel of repentance, says to Hermas, of the false prophet: 

Note: 192 [The devil can quote Scripture. Hermas, p. 27, this volume. See, on this important chapter, Elucidation XIII., infra.]

"For he speaks some truths. For the devil fills him with his own spirit, if perchance he may be able to cast down any one from what is right."

KEN CUKROWSKI: First Corinthians is a response to the letter from the Corinthians carried by those three emissaries; Paul responds to their questions as 1 Cor 7: 1 indicates: "Now concerning (peri de) the things about which you wrote."! The same phrase (peri de) occurs several more times in 1 Corinthians, probably indicating matters that the Corinthians have raised to Paul in their letter.?

Was the matter about headcoverings a topic mentioned in the letter from the Corinthians? It seems possible, even though "now concerning" (peri de) does not begin the passage. It is worth noting that no peri de precedes 11:17-34, which, nevertheless, appears to be part of Paul's response to specific questions about the Lord's Supper (note v. 34b). At the same time, it is also possible that Paul is responding to information from the other sources (1: 11; 5: 1; 11:18) or the three envoys sent from Corinth (16: 17).

In 1 Corinthians 12 Paul is proving that the women (especially) who were prophesiers in the pagan temples did NOT speak for Jesus.  In Ephesians 4 the Gifts of Christ were given to me to specificially silence the cunning craftsmanship or SOPHISTRY: this would exclude rhetoric, singing, playing, acting or engaging in any of the pagan practics where the propheciers were the MANTIC called the Mad Women of Corinths.  This mantic prophesying used what people calls a "worship  service" to arouse the males to such an extent that they were stripped of their food money before they could get out of Corinth.  They performed only in the agora or marketplace where Jesus consigned the pipers, singers and dancers implicating a gender bleed problem.

1Corinthians 12:1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
1Corinthians 12:2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles,
        carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.
Apagō V. lead away, 
b. n Logic, reduce, eis adunaton kōmos , ho,
V. lead away, divert from the subject, esp. by sophistry, “apo tou ontos epi tounantionPl.Phdr.262b;
Orgizō
        kōmos , ho, A. revel, carousal, merry-making, “deipna kai sun aulētrisi kōmoiPl.Tht.173d;
        aul-ētris , idos, , A. flute-girl, Simon.178, Ar.Ach.551, X.HG2.2.23, Pl.Prt.347d,
II. the ode sung at one of these festive processions, Pi.P.8.20, 70, O.4.10, B.8.103; “meligaruōn tektones kōmōnPi.N.3.5, cf. Ar.Th.104, 988
Plat. Theaet. 173d  do not even know where the court-room is, or the senate-house, or any other public place of assembly; as for laws and decrees, they neither hear the debates upon them nor see them when they are published; and the strivings of political clubs after public offices, and meetings, and banquets, and revellings with chorus girls—it never occurs to them even in their dreams to indulge in such things
Aristoph. Ach. 551 everywhere are chaplets, sprats, flute-girls, black eyes; in the arsenal bolts are being noisily driven home, sweeps are being made and fitted with leathers; we hear nothing but the sound of whistles, of flutes and fifes to encourage the work-folk. 
Plat. Phaedrus 262b Socrates
TIn the case, then, of those whose opinions are at variance with facts and who are deceived, this error evidently slips in through some resemblances. Then he who does not understand the real nature of things will not possess the art of making his hearers pass from one thing to its opposite by leading them through the intervening resemblances, or of avoiding such deception himself?
1Corinthians 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand,
        that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed:
        and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

There is no evidence that anyone in Corinth had any gift: if so they would have been been bestowed by the hands of an apostle as did Paul on the Ephesus 12.  They became fore tellers of what Paul had taught them directly from Christ.

1Corinthians 12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
1Corinthians 12:10 To another the working of miracles;
        to another prophecy;
        to another discerning of spirits;
        to another divers kinds of tongues;
        to another the interpretation of tongues:

Contrary to the women whom Paul silences absolutely in chapter 14 there would be ANOTHER or just ONE true prophet in a given congregation.  That prophet would say NOTHING which could not be put into the language of the people and teaching doctrine.

A preacher is a kurusso: a HERALD: a herald takes a message from ONE PLACE to another. He does not CHANGE the message or even OPEN it. He delivers it to the addressee without charge.  On the other hand, Elders as pastor-teachers "teach that which has been taught." He does not need to be a prophet because he has what he is COMMANDED to teach.

1Corinthians 12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts:
        and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
Prophesying was gibberish induced by wine, drugs, vapors or music. In this prophetic state they gave answers to questions in their mad gibberish. The PRIEST fitted an answer because he unsealed the question. He composed an answer in verse. The singer then sang the answer in verse. Many people were led astray just as by modern preachers who presume to speak beyond the sacred pages.

KEN CUKROWSKI:  WHAT PAUL MIGHT HAVE READ

We don't actually know what Paul might have read. So, in what follows we engage in a significant degree of conjecture; let the reader beware. However, the attempt is not without merit. In fact, envisioning the circumstances that produced Paul's response is a key, perhaps lost, to understanding this passage. The danger is mirror reading, assuming that every statement of Paul's is a response to or denial of what the Corinthians wrote. The challenge for any interpreter is to account for Paul's praise in 11:2 and his critique in the following verses. In other words, the Corinthians were doing something right, but not completely right.

The classical literature certainly informed Paul and most people who attended the plays (religious) in the theaters: the language is that of theaters. 

Paul does not address the assembly always defined as a Word of Christ only School for DISCIPLES until verse 17

1Corinthians 11:17 Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not,
        that ye come together [synagogue] not for the better, but for the worse.
1Corinthians 11:18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church,
        I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.

The concept of Spiritual Formation inherited from the Jesuits INSISTS that you can use your imagination when the Spirit OF Christ didn't do His job very well.  We suggest that Paul said that when people lose their love for the Word God sends them strong delusions that they believe their own lie because they have lost connection with THE HEAD.  The signs are LYING WONDERS which identifies all of the performing arts Christ defined in Ezekiel 33: rhetoricians, singers and instrument players. Those who so attracted were also called hypocrites because they had no intention of listening to the TRUE PROPHETS who spoke by the Spirit OF Christ.

The only way to understand Paul is to define words and see how they were used at the time.  Paul will speak further of the "angels" in chapter 13. Only women "spoke in tongues" which is the pagan THESIS of prophesying. Maybe if we tried to understand ALL of the chapters as ONE LETTER not intended to be fracted into gas.

1Corinthians 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels,
        and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

This is not speaking as in the command to SPEAK one to another to teach and comfort. Sounding brass and tinkling cymbals here are identifying marks of people who have NO LOVE. Even if they COULD speak all of the languages in the world there would be no love. The command is to SPEAK or LOGOS the Word of Christ which is the opposite of rhetoric, singing or playing instruments. Speaking in the tongues of angels was IN FACT making music in tongues.  Paul will EQUATE speaking in tongues to using LIFELESS INSTRUMENTS (or Carnal Weapons).  Neither tongues nor musical instruments can SPEAK says Christ through Habakkuk 2.

La^l-eō ,Mark of the Locusts
II.  chatter, Opposite. articulate speech, as of locusts, chirp, Theoc.5.34; mesēmbrias lalein tettix (sc. eimi), a very grasshopper to chirp at midday, 
III.  of musical sounds, “aulō [flute] laleōTheoc.20.29; of trees, v.supr.1.2; “di'aulou [flute] ē salpiggos l.”[trumpet] Arist. Aud.801a29; of Echomagadin lalein sound the magadis,  [double flute]
-kat-auleô , A. charm by flute-playing, metaphor I will flute to you on a ghastly flute, E.HF871 (troch.):--Pass., of persons, methuôn kai katauloumenos drinking wine to the strains of the flute, Pl.R.561c; k. pros chelônidos psophon to be played to on the flute with lyre accompaniment,
II. in Pass., [ton monochordon kanona] parechein tais aisthęsesi . . katauloumenon subdued by a flute accompaniment, to be piped down, ridiculed, gelômenoi  
2.  make a place sound with flute-playing, resound with flute-playing, nęsos katęuleito Plu.Ant.56

katapsallô A.play stringed instruments to, [sumposion]katauleinkai k. Plu.2.713e :--usu. in Pass., have music played to one, enjoy music, ib.785e; of places, resound with music, Id.Ant.56. 2. Pass., to be buried to the sound of music3. metaph., katapsalletai . . hodęmiourgos is drummed out

hupauleô , play on the flute in accompaniment, melo. lusiôidos 1 one who played women's characters in male attire, 
        The Mark of the Locusts: Abaddon's Muses (dirty adulteresses) performing as sorcerers.
Tettix  This noise is freq. used as a simile for sweet sounds, Il.3.151, Hes.Op.582, Sc.393, Simon.173, 174, etc.; and Plato calls them hoi Mousōn prophētai, Phdr.262d; but they also became a proverb. for garrulity, “lalein tettixAristopho10.7: “t. polloi ginomenoi nosōdes to etos sēmainous
Mousa ,Muse,
A. Olumpiades M., Dios aigiokhoio thugateresIl.2.491, cf. Hes.Th.25, etc.; nine in number, first in Od.24.60; named in Hes.Th.75 sqq.
II. mousa, as Appellat., music, song, “m. stugeraA.Eu.308 (anap.); “euphamosId.Supp.695 (lyr.); “kanakhan . . theias antiluron mousasS.Tr.643 (lyr.); “Aiakō moisan phereinPi.N.3.28; tis hēde mousa; what strain is this ?
2. hautē Sōkratous m. that was Socrates's way

Prophēt-euō A. to be a prophētēs or interpreter of the gods, manteueo, Moisa, prophateusō d' egōPi. l.c.; tis prophēteuei theou; who is his interpreter
Mant-euomai  2. generally, presage, forebode, surmise, of presentiment, Opposite. knowledge, Pl.Cra.411b, R.349a,
II. consult an oracle, seek divinations, Pi.O.7.31, Hdt.1.46, 4.172, etc.; “en Delphoisi Id.6.76;   “ho gar theos manteuomenō moukhrēsen en Delphois poteAr.V.159, cf. Av.593
        The mark of Apollo, Abaddon, Apollyon and the Muses at Delphi.
khraō (B). A. FORMS: contr. I. in Act. of the gods and their oracles, proclaim, abs., “khreiōn muthēsato Phoibos8.79: “ Puthiē [serpent] hoi khra tadeHdt.1.55, “kh. mantesi [mad] MousaisAr.Av.724
From Charis or Grace: See Charismatic Worship
b. khrēsthai tini (without philō) to be intimate with a man, X.Hier.5.2, Mem.4.8.11
2. esp. of sexual intercourse, “gunaixi ekhratoHdt.2.181, cf. X.Mem.1.2.29, 2.1.30, Is.3.10, D.59.67.

Aristoph. Birds 724
If you recognize us as gods, we shall be your divining Muses, through us you will know the winds and the seasons, summer, [725] winter, and the temperate months. We shall not withdraw ourselves to the highest clouds like Zeus, but shall be among you and shall give to you [730] and to your children and the children of your children, health and wealth, long life, peace, youth, laughter, songs and feasts; in short, you will all be so well off, [735] that you will be weary and cloyed with enjoyment.

Col 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

Vincent notes:

Render delighting in humility. This rendering is well supported by Septuagint usage. See 1 Sam. xviii. 22; 2 Sam. xv. 26; 1 Kings x. 9; 2 Chronicles ix. 8. 200 It falls in, in the regular participial series, with the other declarations as to the vain conceit of the teachers; signifying not their purpose or their wish to deprive the Christians of their reward, but their vain enthusiasm for their false doctrine, and their conceited self-complacency which prompted them to sit as judges. The worship of angels involved a show of humility, an affectation of superior reverence for God, as shown in the reluctance to attempt to approach God otherwise than indirectly: in its assumption that humanity, debased by the contact with matter, must reach after God through successive grades of intermediate beings.

Worship of angels (qrhskeia). See on religious, Jas. i. 26. Defining the direction which their humility assumed. The usage of the Septuagint and of the New Testament limits the meaning to the external aspects of worship. Compare Acts xxvi. 5; Jas. i. 27.

The ANGELS are not Christ's messengers: He SENT evangelists OUT to preach that which HE commanded to be taught.
Aggelos ,  of a loquacious person 2.  generally, one that announces or tells, e.g. of birds of augury, Il.24.292,296; Mousōn aggelos, of a poet, Females as stand over preachers.
Paul will define a prophet as Teaching the Word of God with Speaking: Logos or opposite poetry or music. These are the Locusts or music Apollo unleashed and John calls Sorcerers in Revelation 18 working for the Babylon Mother of Harlots.
1Corinthians 14:8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?

Salp-igx , iggos, , A. war-trumpet hupai salpiggos by sound of trumpet, S.El.711, cf. Ar.Ach.1001; also apo s. X.Eq.Mag.3.12, Plb.4.13.1.
The trumpet was for sending signals: if someone makes music it might getyou killed: The use of such instruments in the assembly CLAIMING that they can lead you into the presence of God is MAKING WAR against the saints of God.
Xen. Cav. 3.11 In the sham fight when the regiments pursue and fly from one another at the gallop in two squadrons of five regiments, each side led by its commander, the regiments should ride through one another. How formidable they will look when they charge front to front; how imposing when, after sweeping across the Hippodrome, they stand facing one another again; how splendid, when the trumpet sounds and they charge once more at a quicker pace!

[12] After the halt, the trumpet should sound once more, and they should charge yet a third time at top speed; and when they have crossed, they should all range themselves in battle line preparatory to being dismissed, and ride up to the Council, just as you are accustomed to do.
Paul spoke LOGOS in clear conversational style because the purpose was to TEACH the Word of Christ.

1Corinthians 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels,
        and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

khalkos II. in Poets freq. for anything made of metal, esp. of arms (hence Pi. calls it polios, the proper epith. of iron, P.3.48); of offensive arms, oxei khalkō, nēlei kh., of a spear, a sword, Il.4.540, 3.292, al.; of a knife, 1.236, al.; of an axe, 13.180, Od.5.244, al.; of a fish-hook, Il.16.408;
sidēros de kai kh. polemōn organa

Polemon warfare II. personified, War, Battle,Alala Polemou thugater2. metaph. of womankind, “polutelēs p.

Organon , to, (ergon, erdōA. instrument, implement, tool, for making or doing a thing,
3. musical instrument,Simon.31, f.l. in A.Fr.57.1 ; ho men di' organōn ekēlei anthrōpous, of Marsyas, Pl.Smp.215c ; aneu organōn psilois logois ibid., cf. Plt.268b ; “o. polukhordaId.R.399c, al.; “met' ōdēs kai tinōn organōnPhld.Mus.p.98K.; of the pipe

kumba^lon , to, (kumbos) cymbal
1 Samuel 18.6 It happened as they came, when David returned from the slaughter of the Philistine, that the women came out of all the cities of Israel, singing and dancing, to meet king Saul, with tambourines, with joy, and with instruments of music.

Ala^l-azō , formed from the cry alalai): —raise the war-cry, Enualiō ēlalaxan (as v.l. for ēlelixan) X.An.5.2.14, cf.6.5.27; Med., Arr.l.c.: c.acc. cogn., nikēn alalazein shout the shout of victory, S.Ant.133.
2. generally, cry, shout aloud, Pi.l.c., E.El.855; esp. in orgiastic rites, A.Fr.57; of Bacchus and Bacchae, E.Ba.593 (in Med.), 1133, etc.; “ōloluxan hai gunaikes, ēlalaxan de hoi andres
*II. arely also of other sounds than the voice,sound loudly, “psalmos d' alalazeiA.Fr.57; “kumbalon alalazon1 Ep.Cor.13.1

KEN CUKROWSKI:  Taking into account key words from I Cor 11, I attempted to craft a fictitious letter approximating what Paul might have read: Paul,

God warned us not to listen to man's imagination: I will just pass since the KEY WORDS and minimal history of the time needs no doctors of the law because Jesus said that they take away the key to knowledge.

FEMALE PROPHETS

The congregation in which I was reared did not mention female prophets.
        Since others may share a similar history,
        a word about female prophets and prophecy may be in order.

The females such as Deborah or Huldah were not PROPHETS since we have nothing recorded as inspired.  A prophetess was the wife of a prophet OR a musical soothsayer. 

People may not have noticed that there is always been a lot of teaching against speaking in tongues which includes playing musical instruments to induce that mad state.  The only PROPHETS are the written prophets by the Spirit of Christ. Paul said that Jesus made these prophet's teaching more certain

Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon [EDUCATED BY] the foundation of the apostles and prophets,
        Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Ephesians 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men,
        as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
The apostles did not ORIGINATE any thing: Like Jesus as the Son Who spoke only what He heard from the Father (within), the Apostles would speak what Jesus Christ as Spirit guided them into all truth. A prophet in this sense is to "interpret Scripture under Divine influence."

Peter identified the PROPHETS as those who had spoken by the Spirit of Christ (1 Peter 1:11).  Jesus of Nazareth fulfilled these prophecies or made them more certain. THIS  means that in the Christian dispensation there are TEACHERS commanded to teach what has been taught.
2Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people,
        even as there shall be false teachers among you,
         who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them,
        and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
Here it is: you don't need to be a "scholar" to read and understand it: God HIDES from the wise or Sophists meaning speakers, singers and instrument players and reveals only to babes.
2Peter 3:2 That ye may be mindful of the WORDS
        which were spoken before by the holy prophets,
        and of the commandment of us the
apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
The pattern for the Church in the Wilderness was to Rest, Read and Rehearse: Church has no wider role to play.
mimnēskō A remind, put in mind, ecalled it to memory,  III. give heed to

Romans 15:15 Nevertheless, brethren, I have written the more boldly unto you in some sort, as putting you in mind, because of the grace that is given to me of God,
2Timothy 1:6 Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God, which is in thee by the putting on of my hands.
2Peter 1:12 Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance [hupomimnēskein] of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth.
2Peter 1:13 Yea, I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by putting you in remembrance; [hupomnēsei]
2Peter 1:15 Moreover I will endeavour that ye may be able after my decease to have these things always in remembrance.
2Peter 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both
        which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
Jude 5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this,
       
how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt,
        afterward destroyed them that believed not.
Revelation 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
A Sophist who SELLS their bodies including their OWN words are defined by Paul as PROSTITUTES.
Revelation 18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

The Purpose Driven method is to always define our old churches so ignorant that they didn't even have female prophets in the church! The Missional Church madness intends to RESTORE the five-fold ministry and restore Apostles and Prophets. These men get their instructions from a "spirit" beyond the sacred pages and the laidity are not supposed to question God's anointed Vicars.

Found both in the Old Testament and New Testament,
        female prophets playa role, often significant,
        in the life of God's people
.

This is gleaned from "beyond the sacred pages" because there were no prophets in the Qahal, synagogue or Church of Christ (the Rock) in the wilderness.  It was INCLUSIVE of Rest, Reading and Rehearsing the Word of God. That came down ONLY from Moses.  It was EXCLUSIVE of vocal or instrumental rejoicing inclusing high sounding speech. That never changed for the Godly people.

KEN CUKROWSKI:
From Miriam (Exodus 15:20)

When Miriam claimed to speak FOR GOD He slapped her with a dose of leprosy and she is removed from the Story Line.

SEE THE FULL STORY OF MIRIAM HERE

It is probable that Miriam was Paul's example of a prototypical usurping women.

Ex 15:20 And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand;
and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances
.

Exodus 15.20 sumpsit ergo Maria prophetis soror Aaron tympanum in manu egressaeque sunt omnes mulieres post eam cum tympanis et choris
 
Here is what Miriam really did:
Yaca
(h3318) yaw-tsaw'; a prim. root; to go (causat. bring) out, in a great variety of applications, lit. and fig... break out, ..be condemned, departure), draw forth, escape, exact, fail, fall (out), fetch forth (out), get away.. lead out, pluck out, proceed, pull out,

And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.Ge.4:16
And I said unto them, Whosoever hath any gold, let them break it off. So they gave it me: then I cast it into the fire, and there came out this calf. Ex.32:24
There is one come out of thee, that imagineth evil against the Lord, a wicked counsellor. Na.1:11
Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. Zec.14:3

Here is what God thought of her "revelations."
Take heed in the plague of leprosy, that thou observe diligently,
        and do according to all that the
priests the Levites shall teach you:
        as I commanded them, so ye shall observe to do. Deut 24:8

Remember what the Lord thy God did unto Miriam by the way,
       
after that ye were come forth out of Egypt. Deut 24:9

Here is what Miriam did which was common to what the Israelites did in Egypt and never ceased to do.

Sistrum, a metallic rattle which was used by the Egyptians in celebrating the rites of Isis, and in other lascivious festivals,.Ov. Am. 2, 13, 11 By the Jews, Vulg. 1 Reg. [Samuel] 18, 6 .--Hence sarcastically, as if used for a war - trumpet by the wanton Cleopatra Verg. A.8.696   Luc. 10.63
Image of Bast:
Ovid, art of love
And hast thy walks around Canope's walls,
Who Memphis visit'st, and the Pharian tower,
Assist Corinna with thy friendly powers.
Thee by thy silver Sistra I conjure,
A life so precious by thy aid secure;

So mayst thou with Osiris still find grace:
By Anubis's venerable face,
I pray thee, so may still thy rights divine
Flourish, and serpents round thy offerings twine

May Apis with his horns the pomp attend
And be to thee, as thou'rt to her, a friend.
Look down, oh Isis! on the teeming fair,

Apis was the real calf connected to the Egyptian trinity of Osiris, Isis and Horus.

1 Samuel 18:[6]  It happened as they came, when David returned from the slaughter of the Philistine, that the women came out of all the cities of Israel, singing and dancing, to meet king Saul, with tambourines, with joy, and with instruments of music. [7]  The women sang one to another [h6030 Anah] as they played, and said, Saul has slain his thousands, David his ten thousands. [8]  Saul was very angry

This instrument "was a typical woman's instrument... Although it occurs in the Psalter and in religious hymns (Exod. 15; Jer. 31:4), it was not permitted in the temple. Its functions in the bible was restricted to secular or religious frolicking, cultic dances, or processions (e.g., II Sam. 6:5; I Chr. 13:8; Ps. 68:25-26). Its absence in the temple ritual was possibly due to its strong female symbolism, which always accompanied the tambourine, and which made its use so popular at all fertility rites." (The Int. Std. Bible Dict., p. 474). NO instruments were ever permitted INSIDE of the Temple
Ovid: book 9, Metamorphoses
the sacred rattles were there, and Osiris, known
the constant object of his worshipers' desire,
and there the Egyptian serpent whose quick sting
gives long-enduring sleep. She seemed to see
them all, and even to hear the goddess say
to her, "O Telethusa, one of my
remembered worshipers, forget your grief;
your husband's orders need not be obeyed;
and when Lucina has delivered you,
save and bring up your child, if either boy
or girl. I am the goddess who brings help
to all who call upon me; and you shall
never complain of me--that you adored
a thankless deity." So she advised
by vision the sad mother, and left her.

"Thus they made a golden bull, the image of an animal that was held to be the most sacred in that land; they offered unholy sacrifices, performed impious dances and sang hymns which differed in no way from the pagan mourning songs. Philo, De specialibus legibus

"This reference probably indicates the use of songs from the cult of Osiris... it can hardly be denied that Egyptian influence on Jewish musical practices was quite significant. This would stand to reason because of the high quality of Egyptian cultic music. The tambourine or timbrel, a hoop of bells over which a white skin was stretched, came from Egypt. Miriam used this instrument to accompany the singing and dancing on the shores of the Red Sea (Ex. 15).

"The trumpet... was the signaling instrument of the Egyptian army. The name of the Sistrum (2 Sam 6:5) was mena'ane'im. It was the Egyptian kemken used in the cult of Isis.

"The music during the transferring the Ark to Sion (David rose up to play)

and the dances of the women at the Shiloh (Judges 21:21), were similar to the Egyptian liturgy and parades.

"As Herodotus reports, women sang the praises of Osiris while liknesses of the gods were born about and, during the festival of Diana at Bubastis.

See Ezekiel explaining   The Egyptian worship performed by the Jews.

Notice of Miriam.
"In the first place, it will be noticed from the account of the triumphant rejoicing on the shore of the Red Sea that the men sang only: 'Then sang Moses and the children of Israel this song unto the Lord, and SPAKE saying.'" (Girardeau, George, p. 33)

In fact they SPAKE or RECITED.

Masculine is SPEAK or SAY (as in Speak one to another). Feminine or effeminate is to SANG and CLANG: no recorded exception to the rule, Al.

"In the second place, it was Miriam and the women who used instruments of music on the occasion: 'And Miriam, the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went after her with timbrels and with dances." (Girardeau, p. 33).

Of course a tabret or sistrum is NOT a musical instrument and it gave its name for TOPHETH or HELL.
Thirdly, the sistrum was a RATTLE and not a musical instrument. It did not even make a SINGLE note.  It was to establish a BEAT. Therefore, Al Maxey is obligated to go out and DANCE with the women and do the RESPONSIVE chanting which is defined as BROW BEATING.
Psalm 106:12 Then believed they his words;
...........................they sang his praise.
Psalm 106:13 They soon forgat his works; they waited not for his counsel: 
Psalm 106:14 But lusted exceedingly in the wilderness,
        and tempted God in the desert.

Psalm 106:15 And he gave them their request;
        but sent leanness into their soul.
  Ezekiel by the Spirit OF Christ among others notes that
Ezek 20:6 In the day that I lifted up mine hand unto them,
..........to bring them forth of the land of Egypt
..........into a land that I had espied for them, flowing with milk and honey,
..........which is the glory of all lands:
Then said I unto them,
..........
Cast ye away every man the abominations (filthy spectacle=dung) of his eyes,
..........
and defile (similar to h2490 below) not yourselves
..........
with the idols of Egypt: I am the Lord your God. Ezekiel 20:7
Lucifico , a-re, v. a. [lux-facio] , to make bright, to brighten: lucificare
Phôteinos hęlios  (identified with Apollo or Apollyon and
Dionysus)
2. Hęliou astęr, of the planet Saturn, kantharos hę. dung-beetle

But they rebelled against me, and would not hearken unto me:
.......... they did not every man cast away the abominations of their eyes,
.......... neither did they forsake the idols of Egypt: then I said,
.......... I will pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them
..... .....in the midst of the land of Egypt. Ezekiel 20: 8

But I wrought for my names sake, that it should not be polluted before the heathen, among whom they were,
..........in whose sight I made myself known unto them,
..........in bringing them forth out of the land of Egypt. Ezekiel 20: 9

MIRIAM AND THE JACOB-CURSED AND GOD-ABANDONED LEVITES PROPHESIED WITH INSTRUMENTS: SINCE THEY WERE NOT GOD'S ORDAINED PROPHETS THEY PERFORMED AS SORCERERS OR SOOTHSAYERS ALWAYS THE MARK OF INSTRUMENTS.

God will afflict Miriam with leprosy when she claims to speak for God.  The first meaning of prophet in the PAGAN sense meant a charismatic, musical performer.  All dramatic performance is INTERPRETATION which is, according to Paul, just speaking in tongues.
-Prophe-ta  I. a foreteller, SOOTHSAYER prophet... oraculorumque interpretes, sacerdotes Aegyptiorum, quos prophetas vocant, [Priestess of Egpt prophetess call out] Aegyptius, propheta primarius

PHRASE: Aegyptius, propheta primarius 1.  Aegyptius,
2.  Prophetai
3.  Primarius I. one of the first, of the first rank, chief, principal, excellent, remarkable,
primarius parasitus,Plaut. Mil. 3, 1, 73
-Plaut 2.1.73   T. Maccius Plautus, Miles Gloriosus, or The Braggart Captain  PERIPLECOMENUS  You are a simpleton. For, if you lay anything out on a bad wife and upon an enemy, that is an expense; that which is laid out on a deserving guest and a friend is gain; as that, which is expended upon sacred rites, is a profit to the wise man. By the blessing of the Gods, I have enough, with which to receive you with hospitality in my house. Eat, drink, indulge your tastes with me, and surfeit yourself with enjoyments; my house is at your service, myself likewise do I wish to be at your service. For, through the blessing of the Gods, I may say that, by reason of my wealth, I could have married a dowered wife of the best family; but I don't choose to introduce an everlasting female barker at me into my house.
        give me something to give on the Quinquatrus to the sorceress [prae-cantrix] to the woman who interprets the dreams, to the prophetess, and to the female diviner; besides, 'tis impossible for me, in civility, not to fee the expiating woman;
The "praecantrix" was a woman who, by her incantations, was powerful to avert evil.
praecantrix , īcis, f. praecantor,  I. an enchantress, sorceress  pharma^k-eus
 
sophis-tēs , A. master of one's craft, adept, expert, of diviners, Hdt.2.49; of poets, “meletan

sophistais prosbalon
Pi.I.5(4).28, musicians, “sophistēs . . parapaiōn khelun
II. from late v B.C., a Sophist, i.e. one who gave lessons in grammar, rhetoric, politics, mathematics, for money,
2. sophist (in bad sense), quibbler, cheat, Ar.Nu.331,1111, al., Pl.Sph. 268d; “goēta kai sophistēn onomazōnD.18.276. 3. later of the rhētores, Professors of Rhetoric
with modal words added, “hoi s. tōn hierōn melōn” [making melody in a holy place]

"Hariola" was supposed to be an inspired prophetess.
From below: 6 Is he deranged: "Hariolus." Literally, "a soothsayer," or "diviner." In their prophetic frenzy, these persons often had the appearance of being mad, and were so considered.
Miriam was a tymbrel or sistrum player
Tympanotriba
, ae, m., = tumpanotribęs,
I. a taborer, a timbrel-player, a term of reproach for a soft, effeminate person (alluding to the priests of Cybele), Plaut. Truc. 2, 7, 49; cf. tympanum.

T. Maccius Plautus, Truculentus, or The Churl
STRATOPHANES (to PHRONESIUM.) What say you? Why have you dared to say that you love another man?
PHRONESIUM I chose to.
STRATOPHANES Say you so, indeed? I'll first make trial of that. Do you, for the sake of such a shabby present, vegetables, and comestibles, and vinegar-water, bestow your love upon an effeminate, frizzle-pated, dark-haunt frequenting, drum-drubbing debauchee, a fellow not worth a nutshell

6 Is he deranged: "Hariolus." Literally, "a soothsayer," or "diviner." In their prophetic frenzy, these persons often had the appearance of being mad, and were so considered.
7 Drum-drubbing debauchee: "Typanotriba." Literally, "drum," or "tambourine beater." He alludes to the eunuch-priests of Cybele, who used to beat tambourines in her procession-probably in allusion to debauchees, emasculated by riot and dissipation

All religious operatives, especially the musicians, are called PARASITES. That is, since Jesus paid it all and taught it all there is nothing left to do but follow the direct command, Christ and Paul approved examples and the historic church for almost 400 years.
-Părăsītus , i, m., = parasitos, lit. one who eats with another; hence, I. In gen., a guest (pure Lat. conviva): parasiti Jovis, the gods, Hence, parasitus Phoebi, a PLAYER. actor, II. In partic., in a bad sense, one who, by flattery and buffoonery, manages to live at another's expense, a sponger, toad-eater, parasite
-Comically, of a whip: ne ulmos parasitos faciat, that he will make his elm-twigs stick to me like parasites, i. e. give me a sound flogging, he tutelar deity of parasites was Hercules, Plaut. Curc. 2, 3, 79.

Remember the CODE Diotrephes: Name means begotten or BELOVED of Jove who is the "old man" who thrusts in the reaping hook (meaning a musical instrument) about now.

Notes from 2 Maccabees defining the Abomination of Desolation
The tensions which led to the Jewish revolt were exacerbated when the Jewish high priest, a Hellenist himself, offered a sacrifice to Heracles (Hercules) who was a Greek symbol of homosexuality.

KEN CUKROWSKI: to Deborah (Judges 4:4),

Deborah was a Judge: when the MEN failed to protect the nation she rose up and wrote a TAUNT SONG: shame, shame, shame on you males. 

I have reviewed Rubel Shelly's and the NACC Charles Dailey effort to force female PROPHESIERS or musicians into the School of Christ. Mirian sang at "the places of watering" and never in any sacred place.

KEN CUKROWSKI: from Philip's four daughters (Acts 21:9)

Charles Dailey: Our expanded definition of a prophet helps with another problem passage in Acts 21:9. Listen to Luke as he narrates:

Leaving the next day, we reached Caesarea and stayed at the house of Philip the evangelist, one of the Seven. He had four unmarried daughters who prophesied. After we had been there a number of days, a prophet named Agabus came down from Judea. Coming over to us, he took Paul's belt, tied his own hands and feet with it and said, "The Holy Spirit says, ' In this way the Jews of Jerusalem will bind the owner of this belt and will hand him over to the Gentiles.'" (Acts 21 NIV)

The limited definition of a prophet as one who forthtells or foretells leaves an unanswered question in this event. If the evangelist Philip had four daughters prophesying the future, why did God send a man from Jerusalem to Caesarea to foretell the binding of Paul? A reasonable answer is that the ladies were singers and inspired songwriters, not preachers and proclaimers. Historically, prophetesses were connected with inspired musical praise to God.

"Singing served as a means of inducing ecstatic prophecy (speaking in tongues).

Thus the essential relationship between music and prophecy can be clearly seen.
This relationship also explains why the expression for "
making music" and "prophesying" was often identical in the ancient tongues. origen contra celsum 8.67.

The Hebrew word Naba signifies not only "to prophesy" but also "to make music." (Quasten, Johannes, Music and Worship in Pagan and Christian Antiquity, p. 39)

We have no record of anything they sang or preached. They definitely were not authority for women prophets speaking for God. His sending Agabus is not accidental. Rather, it is to show that the prophesied prophesying, like the dreaming, was not a God-ordained ministry of revelation.

Joel prophesies some pretty bitter things against Israel. Philip was a spirit filled person. This agrees with the message of God to Miriam: when He wants something to be known He sends His own man. Click more on these daughters. This is exactly what Paul told the Corinthians: "if you are inspired to sing or speak in tongues you will know that you are not inspired to reveal: God has sent me to you and I will continue to reveal His Word to you."

"The Greeks sought the god's approval for any important decisions they had to make. They often went to the temple of Apollo at Delphi, where a priestess sat over a gas fissure in the volcanic rocks and

muttered unintelligible words of prophecy.
Other priests
interpreted her words, which were supposed to come from Apollo himself.

But the oracle usually gave people vague instructions that could mean almost anything--so that, no matter what happened, the priests could say she was right." (Sumrall, Lester, p. 75, Where was God when Pagan Religions Began, Thomas Nelson.)

As a PROPHETIC REBUTTAL OF FALSE TEACHERS: Jesus then sent a true revealing prophet to Philip to prove that the prophesying youth was Joel's prophecy of doom to the Jews and not to reveal His will. Jesus refused to pray for the world or COSMOS:

The Pythagoreans discovered mathematical formulae for the musical harmonies. They believed in the harmony of the sounds produced by the movement of the stars. They were one of the DIVERSE groups in Romans 14. Paul thefore presented the church as SHOOL OF THE BIBLE to silence all of the diverse musicians.

"Therefore, they spoke of cosmic harmony of the spheres, each of which has a different sound, but all together creating a harmonious sound. If you delete the half-poetic, mythological elements from such ideas, then you can say that they had a universal, ecstatic interpretation of reality." (Tillich, Paul, A History of Christian Thought, Touchstone, p. 333).
kosmos ,  metaph., of ornaments of speech, such as epithets, Id.9.9 (pl.), Arist.Rh.1408a14, Po.1457b2, 1458a33; hadumelē k. keladeinpraise, Pi.O.11 (10).13 (s.v.l.).

Pind. O. 11 My tongue wants to foster such themes; [10] but it is by the gift of a god that a man flourishes with a skillful mind, as with anything else. For the present rest assured, Hagesidamus son of Archestratus: for the sake of your boxing victory,
        I shall loudly sing a sweet song, an adornment for your garland of golden olive,
        [15] while I honor the race of the Western Locrians.
There, Muses, join in the victory-song; I shall pledge my word to you that we will find there a race that does not repel the stranger, or is inexperienced in fine deeds, but one that is wise and warlike too.

This goddess then is clearly something more concise than an image of the starry sky;. Her knowledge of the future of the universe, of the orders of creation, suggest that she should be seen as the complete cycle of the ecliptic stars.

The Hindu goddess Svasti is regarded as the 'Goddess of the home and prosperity'. That her original domain is more profound can be deduced from her ancient symbol the swastika, said to represent 'cosmic procession and evolution around a fixed centre'. The prosperity that she guards is that of the entire cosmos. Her home is the Home of the Gods, as Plato explains in his description of her Greek equivalent Hestia;

'When Zeus the great captain of the host of heaven...rideth forth and disposeth and overseeth all things . Him followeth the army of Gods and Daemons in eleven orders, for Hestia alone abideth in the house of the gods.

But all of the twelve go forth and lead each one the order whereof he is appointed to be captain '

['Many blessed sights there be for eye to behold of blessed gods in their courses passing to and fro within the firmament of heaven']

That is to say, the twelve gods of the host of heaven, the zodiacal constellations, circle around 'the house of the gods', but the goddess remains at their centre, tending the Hearth of Heaven. Resource

Strabo Geography [10.3.10] And on this account Plato, and even before his time the Pythagoreians, called philosophy music; and

they say that the universe is constituted in accordance with harmony,
assuming that every form of music is the work of the gods.
And in this sense, also, the
Muses are goddesses,
and
Apollo is leader of the Muses,
and
poetry as a whole is laudatory of the gods.

Now most of the Greeks assigned to Dionysus, Apollo, Hecate, the Muses (9 women team), and above all to Demeter, everything of an orgiastic [wrath] or Bacchic or choral nature, as well as the mystic element in initiations; and they give the name "Iacchus" not only to Dionysus but also to the leader-in-chief of the mysteries, who is the genius of Demeter.

And branch-bearing, choral dancing, and initiations are common elements in the worship of these gods.
As for the
Muses and Apollo,

the Muses (female pastors) preside over the choruses,
whereas
Apollo presides both over these and the rites of divination.

In Revelation 17 John identified the Mother of Harlots church and in chapter 18 identified the singers and musicians and other religious teknokrats SORCERERS who HAD deceived the whole world. Apollo is Apollyon and the Muses were the dirty, adulterers who were Apollyon's Musical Worship Team

But all educated men, and especially the musicians, are ministers of the Muses;

and both these and those who have to do with divination are ministers of Apollo;
and the
initiated and torch-bearers and hierophants, of Demeter; and the Sileni and Satyri and Bacchae, and also the Lenae and Thyiae and Mimallones and Naďdes and Nymphae and the beings called Tityri, of Dionysus.
Homosexual priests all: in the words of Paul, the knife slipped and they were emasculated and even sex changed.

KEN CUKROWSKI: to the female prophets at Corinth (1 Cor 11:5), mention of their activity dots both testaments. 12

The pagan THESIS of "prophesying" is that mania or ecstasy created by wine, drugs or music MUST be achieved before the gods (demons) would speak to you: the gods never spoke to people before driving them MAD (David's halal word). Paul in 1 Corinthians 14 said that everyone spake (sang, pray) in TONGUES the unbeliever would seen insanity or MANIA. 

Sophocles: Oedipus Tyrannus 708
708] math' k.t.l.: learn that thou canst find no mortal creature sharing in the art of divination.
1) first, the god himself, speaking through a divinely frenzied being in whom the human reason was temporarily superseded (hence the popular derivation of mantikē from mania:

Plat. Tim. 71e
mantikēn aphrosunē theos anthrōpinē dedōken: oudeis gar ennous ephaptetai mantikēs entheou kai alēthous”: this was much the same as the Egyptian belief, Hdt. 2.83mantikē de autoisi ōde diakeetai. anthrōpōn men oudeni proskeetai tekhnē, tōn de theōn metexeteroisi.
Plat. Tim. 71e And that God gave unto man's foolishness the gift of divination a sufficient token is this: no man achieves true and inspired divination when in his rational mind, but only when the power of his intelligence is fettered in sleep or when it is distraught by disease or by reason of some divine inspiration. But it belongs to a man when in his right mind to recollect and ponder both the things spoken in dream or waking vision by the divining and inspired nature, and all the visionary forms that were seen, and by means of reasoning to discern about them all
Enthousi-asmos , ho,
A. inspiration, enthusiasm, frenzy, Democr.18, Pl.Ti.71e, Ph.1.535 (pl.), S.E.M.9.20 (pl.); “alogos e.Phld.Ir.p.67 W.; produced by certain kinds of music, Click Arist.Pol.1340a11, 1342a7.

1342a7 Therefore those who go in for theatrical music must be set to compete in harmonies and melodies of this kind (and since the audience is of two classes, one freemen and educated people,
         and the other [20] the vulgar class composed of mechanics and laborers
        and other such persons, the latter sort also must be assigned competitions and shows for relaxation; and just as their souls are warped from the natural state, so those harmonies and melodies that are highly strung and irregular in coloration are deviations, but people of each sort receive pleasure from what is naturally suited to them,
Hdt. 2.83 As to the art of divination among them, it belongs to no man, but to some of the gods; there are in their country oracles of Heracles, Apollo, Athena, Artemis, Ares, and Zeus, and of Leto (the most honored of all) in the town of Buto. Nevertheless, they have several ways of divination, not just one.
Prophēt-euō A. to be a prophētēs or interpreter of the gods, manteueo, Moisa, prophateusō d' egōPi. l.c.; tis prophēteuei theou; who is his interpreter
Mant-euomai  2. generally, presage, forebode, surmise, of presentiment,
         Opposite. knowledge, Pl.Cra.411b, R.349a,
II. consult an oracle, seek divinations, Pi.O.7.31, Hdt.1.46, 4.172, etc.; “en Delphoisi Id.6.76;   “ho gar theos manteuomenō moukhrēsen en Delphois poteAr.V.159, cf. Av.593
moukhrēsen    khraō   I. in Act. of the gods and their oracles, proclaim, abs., “khreiōn muthēsato Phoibos” [Abaddon, Apollyon] 8.79:
warn or direct by oracle

khraō
(B). A. FORMS: contr. I. in Act. of the gods and their oracles, proclaim, abs., “khreiōn muthēsato Phoibos8.79: “ Puthiē [serpent] hoi khra tadeHdt.1.55, “kh. mantesi [mad] MousaisAr.Av.724
From Charis or Grace: See Charismatic Worship
b. khrēsthai tini (without philō) to be intimate with a man, X.Hier.5.2, Mem.4.8.11
2. esp. of sexual intercourse, “gunaixi ekhratoHdt.2.181, cf. X.Mem.1.2.29, 2.1.30, Is.3.10, D.59.67.

Ma^nia (A), Ion. -, , (mainomai)
II. enthusiasm, inspired frenzy, “m. Dionusou paraE.Ba.305; “apo Mousōn katokōkhē te kai m.Pl.Phdr. 245a; theia m., opp. sōphrosunē anthrōpinē, ib.256b, cf. Prt.323b, X. Mem.1.1.16; “tēs philosophou m. te kai bakkheiasPl.Smp.218b.

1Corinthians 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels,
        and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

Speaking in tongues would prove that there was NO LOVE and compared it to lifeless musical instruments. Speaking in this sense is the Greek;
La^l-eō ,Mark of the Locusts
II.  chatter, Opposite. articulate speech, as of locusts, chirp, Theoc.5.34; mesēmbrias lalein tettix (sc. eimi), a very grasshopper to chirp at midday, 
III.  of musical sounds, “aulō [flute] laleōTheoc.20.29; of trees, v.supr.1.2; “di'aulou [flute] ē salpiggos l.”[trumpet] Arist. Aud.801a29; of Echomagadin lalein sound the magadis,  [double flute]

We noted that of Miriam and the Levites, they were SOOTHSAYERS with instruments:

-Prophe-ta  I. a foreteller, SOOTHSAYER prophet... oraculorumque interpretes, sacerdotes Aegyptiorum, quos prophetas vocant, [Priestess of Egpt prophetess call out] Aegyptius, propheta primarius

PHRASE: Aegyptius, propheta primarius 1.  Aegyptius,
2.  Prophetai
3.  Primarius I. one of the first, of the first rank, chief, principal, excellent, remarkable,
primarius parasitus,Plaut. Mil. 3, 1, 73

prophēt-euō  A.  to be a prophētēs or interpreter of the gods, “manteueo, Moisa, prophateusō d' egō

> "Maniac inspirations, the violent possession which threw sibyls and priestesses into contortions--the foaming lip and streaming hair and glazed or glaring eyes-- have no place in the self-controlling dignity of Christian inspiration. Even Jewish prophets, in the paroxysm of emotion, might lie naked on the ground and rave (1 Sam. xix. 24); but the genuine inspiration in Christian ages never obliterates the self-consciousness or overpowers the reason. It abhors the hysteria and stimulation and frenzy which have sometimes disgraced revivalism and filled lunatic asylums." (Pulpit Commentary, 1 Cor., p. 460).

> "The religious ecstasy induced by music expressed itself either in an outburst of emotions, thus giving rise to religious catharsis, or in a transfer to the state of prophecy. In this way music became an important factor in divination. In the mysteries of the Magna Mater this relationship between music and divination is particularyl clear.

Through the din of tambourines, cymbals and flutes
the
ecstatic worshiper of the goddess prophesied the future to those present.

"From time immorial music had been especially valued in the service of prophecy. Pliny the Elder gives us a report of the cult of Apis: [Golden calf, musical idolatry at Mount Sinai]

"In Egypt an ox is honored in place of the god. He is called Apis and he lives in isolation. If he ever goes among the people he stalks along while the lictors make way for him and throngs of boys accompany him, singing songs in his honor. He appears to understand what is happening and seems to wish to be adored. The throngs [of boys] sudddenly become inspired and prophesy the future. (Pliny, Natural History)

Consequently Apollo (Abaddon, Apollyon) was god of prophets and musicians and Pan was god of medicine, music and divination.

"Here singing served as a means of inducing ecstatic prophecy (speaking in tongues).

Thus the essential relationship between music and prophecy can be clearly seen.
This relationship also explains why the expression for "
making music" and "prophesying" was often identical in the ancient tongues. origen contra celsum 8.67.

The Hebrew word Naba signifies not only "to prophesy" but also "to make music." (Quasten, Johannes, Music and Worship in Pagan and Christian Antiquity, p. 39)

The Muses were the "worship team" of Apollo, Abaddon or Apollyon: they were known to be dirty adulteresses and John said that they were SORCERERS or musical PROPHETS.

Mouseios , A. of or belonging to the Muses, “hedraE.Ba.410
E.Ion 369; mania . . prophēteusasa with oracular power, Pl.Phdr.244d:—Pass., ta prophēteuthenta Sch.Od. 12.9

Hes. Th. 1 And one day they taught Hesiod glorious song while he was shepherding his lambs under holy Helicon, and this word first the goddesses said to me— [25] the Muses of Olympus, daughters of Zeus who holds the aegis: “Shepherds of the wilderness, wretched things of shame, mere bellies, we know how to speak many false things as though they were true; but we know, when we will, to utter true things.

Eur. Ba. 410 Chorus
Would that I could go to Cyprus, the island of Aphrodite, where the Loves, who soothe [405] mortals' hearts, dwell, and to Paphos, fertilized without rain by the streams of a foreign river flowing with a hundred mouths. Lead me there, Bromius, Bromius, god of joy who leads the Bacchae, [410] to Pieria, beautiful seat of the Muses, the holy slope of Olympus. There are the Graces, there is Desire; there it is [415] lawful for the Bacchae to celebrate their rites.

Chorus
The god, the son of Zeus, delights in banquets, and loves Peace, giver of riches, [420] goddess who nourishes youths. To the blessed and to the less fortunate, he gives an equal pleasure from wine that banishes grief. He hates the one who does not care about this: [425] to lead a happy life by day and friendly

1 night and to keep his wise mind and intellect away from over-curious men. [430] What the common people think and adopt, that would I accept.

1 “Because the Dionysiac hiera take place nuktōr ta polla (BY NIGHT)

THE NINE MUSES AND THE NINE MAGPIES The Muses work for Apollo or Abaddon.

So spoke the Muse. And now was heard the sound
of pennons in the air, and voices, too,
gave
salutations from the lofty trees.

Minerva, thinking they were human tongues,
looked up in question whence the perfect words;
but on the boughs,
nine ugly magpies perched,
those
mockers of all sounds, which now complained
their hapless fate. And as she wondering stood,
Urania,
goddess of the Muse, rejoined;--

"Look, those but lately worsted in dispute
augment the number of unnumbered birds.--
Pierus was their father, very rich
in lands of Pella; and their mother (called
Evippe of Paeonia) when she brought
them forth, nine times evoked, in labours nine,

Lucina's aid.--Unduly puffed with pride,
because it chanced their number equalled ours,
these
stupid sisters, hither to engage
in wordy contest, fared through many towns;--
through all
Haemonia and Achaia came
to us, and said;--

'Oh, cease your empty songs,
attuned to
dulcet numbers, that deceive
the
vulgar, untaught throng. If aught is yours
of confidence, O
Thespian Deities
contend with us: our number equals yours.
We will not be defeated by your arts;
nor shall your songs prevail.

A PROPHETS ORDAINED BY AN APOSTLE WOULD NOT REVEAL NEW DOCTRINE.
II.  expound, interpret, preach, under the influence of the Holy Spirit,
IV. to be a quack doctor,
The imaginary trip then asks what does a prophet do.

A "prophesier" sings, claps, plays instruments and DRUMS UP lots of tithes and offerings by seducing the males. That is why Christ speaking through Paul outlawed those men who would encourage their wives and daughters to violate the terminal act of irreverence and exposing herself to be USED by the wolfish elders who NEED the women to pay for the massive staff infection and doing everything but being A school of Christ through the Word.

But of the Jewish prophets used to PROVE that Miriam was a propheteSS and not a PROPHET.

And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying, Luke 1: 67
Blessed be the
Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people, Luke 1: 68
And hath
raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David; Luke 1: 69
As he spake by the mouth of his
holy prophets, which have been since the world began: Luke 1: 70

How? Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. 1 Pet 1:11

That we should be
(1)
saved from our enemies, and
(2)
from the hand of all that hate us (Satan); Luke 1: 71
Matt 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt,
        and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
Matt 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things?
        for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
Matt 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things:
        and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

Matt 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak,
        they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
    G2190 echthros ekh-thros' From a primary word ἔχθω echthō (to hate); hateful
    (passively odious, or actively hostile); usually as a noun, an adversary (especially Satan):—enemy, foe.

    G2191 echidna ekh'-id-nah Of uncertain origin; an adder or other poisonous snake (literally or figuratively):—viper.
(3) To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and
(4)
to remember his holy convenant; Luke 1: 72
        The
oath which he sware to our father Abraham, Luke 1: 73
(5) That he would grant unto us,
         that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies [Jewish clergy]
        might serve him without fear,
Luke 1:74
(6) In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.  Luke 1:75
(7) And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest:
      for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways;
Luke 1:76
(8) To give knowledge of salvation unto his people
(9)
by
the remission of their sins, Lu.1:77

People who corrupt the Word or SELL the free water of the Word at wholesale certainly make it difficult for we non-Levites to enjoy the liberty FROM them.  But, many (most) are called but few are chosen (the elect).
eklekt-os , ę, on,

A. picked out, select,  dikastai,=Lat. iudices selecti,
2. choice, pure, smurnę LXXEx.30.23 
II. chosen of God, elect, LXXIs.43.20, Ev.Marc.13.20, etc.

klęt-os , ę, on,
A. invited, Aeschin.2.162, etc.; welcome, Od.17.386.
2. called out, chosen, Il.9.165.
3. invoked, Anon. ap. Suid.
4. summoned to court, PAmh.2.79.5 (ii A.D.).
II. Subst. klętę (sc. ekklęsia), hę, convocation, LXX Ex.12.16
Neither the religious or civil ekklesia PERMITTED any member to make up, compose, preach or perform any of the hypocritic arts. The resource came from a higher authority.  They synagogued together, read the material and synagogued or collected their understanding of the assign passage for the week. 

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