Jay Guin The Promise of the Holy Spirit 1.09.12 Jay
teaches that the CALL is only from God and we receive The Holy Spirit
as a person or people. Apparently that guides beyond the sacred
pages. As usual we will fill in the context and define some words
to prove that Jesus returned as promised after receiving his glorified
state as The Holy Spirit: Spirit never literally means more than wind or
breath: Jesus poured out His message once for all times. No, Alexander
Campbell suggests
Alexander Campbell and all historic scholarship
"Paul meant such a public and sensible
exhibition of it as would commend the honesty and sincerity of the
heart to every man's conscience,
by "a manifestation of the Spirit" he
meant such an exhibition of his presence and residence
in the heart,
as
would convince the understanding of all that these spiritual men,
who professed to have
received the Holy Spirit himself,
did in truth
possess that divine agent.
From all which, may it not be inferred that
a person in the apostolic age, professing
to have received the gift of
the Holy Spirit, or the Holy Spirit himself,
without a manifestation of
it; or who was unable to display
it by some unequivocal
exhibition of
it,
would have been considered
either
a
knave
or
a simpleton?
Because Marcion had some really harsh things to say about the Old
Testament and its evil God or perhaps the Devil, because Churches of
Christ understand that what the progressives think of as the Old
Testament was God's abandonment of Israel to worship the starry
host. Yet he and the progressives (back to Babylon) insist on
using the Levites as legalistic patternism for A Musical Worship Team
(The best identification of heresy). In fact God's command after
the Levites executed 3000 of the brethren for engaging in musiucal
idolatry, God's command was that "stand in ranks" during the
not-commanded animal slaughter to EXECUTE any progressive who was left
inside the camp. The noise was SOOTHSAYING with instrumental
accompaniment and God has abandoned the "progressives" to their fervent
prayer.
Jay Guin posts Ryan Christian's purpose driven and works-intensive legalistic description of the Musical Worship Team: this is a blasphemous concept and the PATTERN of the Lying Wonders prophesied for about now. Revised 12.23.11
The Purpose Driven Plan for the Progressive Church of Christ.
See The Purpose Driven Cult which HAS come to your church and its dominant "pastor" (self-proclaimed.)
If
the assembly is Qahal, synagogue or Church of Christ in the wilderness
which never changed, then Jay and the NACC have spread all of that
discord based on the foundation of the slaughter priests and Levites.
Having missed Genesis 49 other than to gather proof-texts they attempt
to IMPOSE what Jacob absolutely outlawed: having any dealings with the
Levites.
- No! The Levites were not commanded by God to be "Musical Worship Ministers" during the not commanded sacrifices and burnt offerings.
- God
commanded through Moses and also by David that they STAND IN
RANKS under the king and commanders of the army. God quarantined all
godly people from the
mass slaughter of innocent animals as a Plague Stopping Exorcism which
was part of the "worship of the starry host.
- When the Burnt Offering of the goats for Israel (the masses
having defected into a musical instrument sect) began it is clearly said to be by
THE COMMAND OF DAVID who was king and not a worship leader.
- Christ in Isaiah, Jeremiah etal said that God DID NOT command
sacrifices or offerings. To teach that this was God's first failed
attempt at a "worship ritual" manifests a view of a Holy (wholly)
Spirit God which is beyond redemption.
- Christ--the Rock--led and fed Israel in the wilderness. He ordained the Qahal, synagogue or church of Christ in the wilderness.
- This was to REST from the Jacob-cursed Levi tribe who profaned
(music) the Sabbath at the temple because they had already been
abandoned to the kings whom "god gave in His anger and took away in His
anger" after they carried out the captivity and death sentence imposed
when God sentenced them at Mount Sinai.
- Jay effectively
calls me a liar but then will not hear the evidence: Music in fact
means "to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter."
Acts 7:43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the STAR of your god Remphan,
figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
- If that is true then all of the groups who have made a career
out of trying to force people to adopt the Levite Patternism, validate Christ in Isaiah
30 who shows that God will drive His enemies into "hell" with wind, string
and percussion instruments."
The prophesying with instruments by the Levites means that they were
SOOTHSAYERS
proven by using instruments to indimidate. We have a record of
the prophets inspired by Christ and the repudiate instruments.
The singers, instrument players and craftsmen (theater builders and
stage managers) in Revelation 18 are the same "fruits" Amos identified. John calls
them SORCERERS who had once deceived the whole world. He says that the
sorcers and liars and dogs (fruits) will all be cast alive into the
Lake of Fire.
God made it hard on the Devil (father of all musical religion says
history) whose sons SPEAK ON THEIR OWN . That is
why they cannot find a single command, example or remote inference that
God's righteous people ever assembled for "congregational singing with
instrumental accompaniment."
Says Jesus, "Doctors of the Law take away the KEY to knowledge." That is their job, that is what they do.
JAY ATTACKS AND CLAIMS THAT THE CHURCH IS NOT AFTER THE CHURCH IN THE WILDERNESS BUT THE "PASSOVER."
Indeed, the best evidence is that the assembly is built on the
Passover tradition, if anything, which included … singing. And probably
dancing
The
Lord's Supper was instituted during the Feast of Unleavened Bread which
came "after supper." The Passover was only once a year and was a family
ceremony and never a public ritual with singing and dancing. Jesus
SPAKE A hymn and went out.
Paul defines the musical idolatry at Mount Sinai as demon worship. The Book of Enoch and Romans 1 etal define this fall from Grace for which there was no redemption.
1Corinthians 10:2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
1Corinthians 10:3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
1Corinthians 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink:
for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them:
and that Rock was Christ.
1Corinthians 10:5 But with many of them God was not well pleased:
for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
1Corinthians 10:6 Now these things were our examples,
to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
1Corinthians 10:7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written,
The people sat down to eat and drink, and ROSE UP TO PLAY.
Exod 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for
it is holy unto you:
every one that DEFILETH it shall
surely
be
put to death:
for whosoever doeth any
work therein,
that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
Defile is h2490 Play the flute, steal people's inheritance, pollute or prostitute.
8104. shamar, shaw-mar´; a primitive root; properly, to hedge
about (as with thorns), i.e. guard; .
Keep in Latin: Custodio II. With the access.
idea of hindering free motion, A. In gen., to hold
something back, to preserve,
keep: To prevent PLAY or Ludo cautiously, carefully: “ut parce custoditeque ludebat!” Plin. Ep. 5, 16, 3.
Plin. Ep. 5, 16, 3. how eagerly , how intellegenter lectitabat! when moderately custoditeque ludebat!
Ludo A. To sport, play
with any thing, to
practise as a pastime, amuse one's self with any thing, B.
To sport, dally, wanton Esp., to play on an
instrument of music, to
make or compose music or song:
[6]
surgentesque mane obtulerunt holocausta et hostias
pacificas et sedit populus comedere ac bibere et surrexerunt
ludere
Surgo they rose up in insurrection AGAINST God.
Hêdonais 3. Pl., desires after
pleasure, pleasant lusts, X.Mem.1.2.23, Ep.Tit.3.3,
"The
triumphal hymn of
Moses had
unquestionably a religious character about it; but the employment of
music in religious
services,
though idolatrous, is more distinctly marked
in the festivities which attended the erection of the golden calf."
(Smith's Bible Dictionary, Music, p. 589).
Ludo A. To sport, play
with any thing, to
practise as a pastime, amuse one's self with any thing, B. To sport, dally, wantonly Esp., to play on an
instrument of music, to
make or compose music or song: “carmina pastorum,”
Vellem a
comedy which wishes (i. e. is meant) to
be in demand, b. Of the wishes
of those that have a right to command, the gods, masters, parents,
commanders, etc., I want, wish,
will, am resolved, it
is my will:
Canto I.
Neutr., to produce
melodious sounds (by the voice or an instrument), to
sound, sing, play, Less
freq. of instrumental music, and only with abl. of the
instrument, in comedy, to sing and play while the
actor accompanies the song with gestures or dancing,
Tuba
war trumpet, Apart from military purposes, it was used on various
occasions, as at religious festivals, games, funerals, a signal for
wor, exciter, instigator.
Empaizō , fut. To be deluded 2. euphem. in mal. part.,
LXXJd. 19.25.
STEPHEN REPUDIATES THE JAY GUIN THESIS
Jay Guin: Indeed, the best evidence is that the assembly is built on the
Passover tradition, if anything, which included … singing. And probably
dancing (it certainly did at a later date). But neither singing nor
dancing is commanded in the Torah.. See more below.
Jay
is feeding off Al Maxey who majors in claiming that events not
commanded by God were imposed by humans. The conclusion is that
we can add instruments (to the school of the Word) and not get
burned. Both are false: indeed some Jews hold that the synagogue
existed as long as God had something to reveal to mankind through
chosen prophets.
Jay denies
what Stephen and recorded history proves: "come together, assemble,
gather" are all synagogue words. The synagogue OUTLAWS any "vocal
or instrumental rejoicing."
Acts 7:38 This is he, that was in the church [ekklesia-synagogue] in the wilderness
with the angel [Christ] which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with
our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:
Acts 7:41 And they made a calf in those days, and offered sacrifice unto the idol,
and rejoiced in the works of their own hands.
Euphrainō , Ep.
euphr-, fut. Att.
155.12,
Pi.I.7(6).3
Aeschin. 1 191 No, the impetuous lusts of the body and insatiate desire—these it is
that fill the robbers' bands, that send men on board the pirates'
boats; these are, for each man, his Fury, urging him to slay his fellow
citizens, to serve the tyrant, to help put down the democracy. For such
men reck not of disgrace, nor yet of punishment to come, but are
beguiled by the pleasures they expect if they succeed. Therefore,
fellow citizens, remove from among us such natures, for so shall you
turn the aspirations of the young toward virtue.
Aeschin. 1 190 Many men of this sort you could find who have
overthrown cities and have fallen into the greatest misfortunes
themselves. For you must not imagine, fellow citizens, that the impulse
to wrong doing is from the gods; nay, rather, it is from the wickedness
of men; nor that ungodly men are, as in tragedy, driven and chastised
by the Furies1 with blazing torches in their hands.
Pind. I. 6 Just as we mix the second bowl of wine when the men's symposium is
flourishing, here is the second song of the Muses for Lampon's children
and their athletic victories: first in Nemea, Zeus, in your honor they
received the choicest of garlands,
Xen. Sym. 7.5 However, these questions also
fail to promote the same object that wine does; but if the young people
were to have a flute accompaniment and dance figures depicting the
Graces, the Horae,1
and the Nymphs, I believe that they would be far less wearied
themselves and that the charms of the banquet would be greatly
enhanced.”
“Upon my word, Socrates,” replied the Syracusan, “you are quite right; and I will bring in a spectacle that will delight you.”
Pind. I. 7 In which of the local glories of the past, divinely blessed Thebe, did
you most delight your spirit? Was it when you raised to eminence the
one seated beside Demeter of the clashing bronze cymbals,
flowing-haired [5] Dionysus? Or when you received, as a snow-shower of
gold in the middle of the night, the greatest of the gods,
when he stood in the doorway of Amphitryon, and then went in to the
wife to beget Heracles?
One of the Muses. She presided over music, and
is generally representedas holding two flutes. To her was ascribed by the poets the invention of the tragic
chorus. The name means “the well-delighting one,” from eu, “well,” and terpō, “to delight.” See Musae.
euterpēs , es, A.
delightful, charming, anthos, phōnē, Pi.O.6.105,
Pind. O. 6 Therefore his mother declared that he should be called for all time
by this immortal name, “Iamus...” The sweet-voiced lyres and music are familiar with Hieron. May time not
creep up and disturb his prosperity, but may he with loving
friendliness welcome the victory-procession of Hagesias
as it comes to one home from his other home within the walls of
Stymphalus, [100] leaving his motherland, Arcadia
of the fine flocks. On a stormy night it is good to have two anchors to
throw down from a swift ship. May a god lovingly bestow a glorious lot
on the men of both cities. Master, ruler of the sea, husband of
Amphitrite of the golden distaff, grant straight sailing free from
troubles, [105] and give new growth to the delightful flower of my
songs.
This is one of the most magnificent of Pindar's poems, full of color,
if not so dazzling as the seventh Olympian. The myth of Iamos, the
mantis ancestor of a mantis, is beautifully told.
Manti^s diviner, seer, prophet, of Apollo and Cassandra, Pythian priestess, Dionysus,
3. Adj., toude manteōs khorou of this prophetic band, dub. in S.Fr.113.
II. a kind of grasshopper, the praying mantis, Mantis religiosa, Theoc.10.18,
(Deriv. from mainomai by Pl.Ti.72a, 72b.)
mainomai , 2.
of things, rage, riot, esp. of fire, “hōs hot' . . oloon pur ouresi mainētai” Il.15.606, cf. Tryph.230; mainomenos oinos a hot, strong wine, Pl.Lg.773d; of feelings, elpis mainomenē Orac. ap. Hdt.8.77; “eris” A.Th.935 (lyr.); “akhea” S.Aj.957 (lyr.); “mainomena xun horma” Id.Ant.135 (lyr.); “sun m. doxa” E.Ba.887
phōn-ē , hē, A.
sound, tone, prop., the sound of the voice, whether of men or animals with lungs and throat
4.
of sounds made by inanimate objects, mostly Poet., “kerkidos ph.” S.Fr.595; “suriggōn” E.Tr.127 (lyr.); “aulōn” Mnesim.4.56 (anap.); rare in early Prose, “organōn phōnai” Pl.R.397a; freq. in LXX, “hē ph. tēs salpiggos” LXX Ex.20.18; ph. brontēs
Acts 7:42 Then God turned,
and gave them up to worship the HOST of heaven;
as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel,
have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by
the space of forty years in the wilderness? [not commanded]
It is not possible
that any Bible student would not have asked: What does that mean.? All
true scholars and the Jewish Encyclopedia proves that the Temple was
built (not by God's command) on Mount Moriah where God taught
that He had aready PROVIDED for all such sacrifices. Those who try to
impose instruments subconsciously or unconsciously USE the abandoned
Levites as their only PATTERNISM for making music when Christ was and
is always speaking ONLY to those who attend ekklesia or synagogue: A
School (only) of the Word of Christ (only). Peter wrote to MARK
as false teachers anyone who did not teach that left memory of Jesus of
Nazareth proving as a human that the curse of the sacrificial system
COULD be defeated.
I noted that the Levites gained their infant burning patternism from Egypt.
Acts 7:43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the STAR of your god Remphan,
figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
The synagogue is defined in Numbers 10 to define the AIDS: A Holy Convocation which means to rest, read and rehearse"
In this passage ALL of the foundation of those imposing instruments as
THEIR RIGHT is repudiated by Stephen: He got murdered for
telling the
kings or queens that they had no clothes. If you missed the
musical
idolatry fork in the road and all of the prophets, and continue to SELL
YOUR BODY as mediator in song or made up sermon Paul says you corrupt the
word meaing "selling your learning at retail" which also identifies
adultery or prostitution. Tyre and Jerusalem are PARALLEL: Hiram built
both temples and "Lucifer" was worshipped at Tyre.
Isaiah 23:15 And it shall come to pass in that day,
that Tyre shall be forgotten seventy years, according to the days of one king:
after the end of seventy years shall Tyre sing as an harlot. meaning
Isaiah 23:16 Take an [1] harp, go about the city, thou harlot that hast been forgotten;
make sweet [2] melody, [3] sing many songs, that thou mayest be remembered.
Isaiah 23:17 And it shall come to pass after the end of seventy years,
that the LORD will visit Tyre, and she shall turn to her hire,
and shall commit fornication with all the kingdoms of the world upon the face of the earth.
Isaiah 23.16 sume citharam circui civitatem meretrix oblivioni tradita
bene cane frequenta canticum ut memoria tui sit
It always takes THREE WORDS to define Playing + Harp + Sing; then you need something to sing and God didn't provide any of that.
Stephen said that the Temple (etal) was NOT commanded.
Acts 7:41 And they made a calf in those days,
and offered sacrifice unto the idol,
and rejoiced in the works of their own hands.
The
Egyptian Opis
(Apis) and others which Israel worshipped at Mount
Sinal were worshipped throughout the area. "In preference to all
other hymns these choirs generally sang the
so-called epiphany hymns,which
were intended to invite the gods
to
appear. Plutarch
wrote:
Why do the women of Elis
call upon God in song to approach
them with the bull's foot? Their song
is the following:
Come, Dionysus,
Hero,
into the holy
temple of
Elis,
together with the Graces
come
violently into the
temple with the bull's
foot!
Then they sang twice at
the
end: "Sacred Bull!" (Johannes Quasten, Music & Worship in Pagan
and Christian Antiquity, p. 76)
"For
nonliterate
peoples, music
often serves purposes other
than entertainment or aesthetic enjoyment. Certain wind instrumentare
closely associated with the supernatural,
and their sounds connote powerful magic.
Australian Aborigines, for instance,
identify the sound of a bull-roarer with thevoices
of supernatural beings; for the Plains Indians, the
same sound signifies an awesome natural phenomenon, such as thunder.
Wind instruments are often among a group's most important ritual
objects, and in some cultures they are specially venerated. The
Kamairua Indians of the Amazon rain forest keep their giant flutes
(three to four feet long), wherein spirits are
believed to dwell,
in a
special shrine where they are worshiped. The flutes
and drums
of New Guinea are similarly housed
and worshiped.
"Wind
instruments in primitive
cultures also serve nonreligious functions. In New Guinea, bamboo
trumpets were once
played
to frighten an enemyduring
battle and
to alert a village that
the victorious warriors
were coming home with the corpses
of the foes.
"Conch-shell
trumpets are used
for signaling
in the Pacific coastal regions of Columbia and in
the Ecuadoran highlands.
Trumpets
also may be associated with the office of king or chief,
as in West Africa,
where their use is strictly controlled
by tribal law. "wind
instrument"
Encyclopædia Britannica Online.
Euphrainō , Ep. euphr-, fut. Att.155.12, Pi.I.7(6).3
Pind. I. 6 Just as we mix the second bowl of wine when the men's symposium is
flourishing, here is the second song of the Muses for Lampon's children
and their athletic victories: first in Nemea, Zeus, in your honor they
received the choicest of garlands,
Pind. I. 7 In which of the local glories of the past, divinely blessed Thebe, did
you most delight your spirit? Was it when you raised to eminence the
one seated beside Demeter of the clashing bronze cymbals,
flowing-haired [5] Dionysus? Or when you received, as a snow-shower of
gold in the middle of the night, the greatest of the gods,
when he stood in the doorway of Amphitryon, and then went in to the
wife to beget Heracles?
But since ancient grace sleeps, and mortals are forgetful
of whatever does not reach the highest bloom of skillful song, joined to glorious streams of words,
[20]
then begin the victory procession with a sweet-singing hymn for Strepsiades;
Aristoph. Ach. 5 Just imagine how this blow struck
straight at my heart! On the other hand, what joy Dexitheus caused
me at the musical competition, when he played a Boeotian melody
on the lyre! But this year by contrast!
JAY GUIN FIRST PERMITTED ME TO BE CALLED A MANIAC.
THEN, HE PRESENTED THE FOUNDATION ON WHICH HE AND ALL PROGRESSIVES TRY
TO DECONTRUCT THOSE WHO WILL NOT BOW TO BAAL WHEN THE INSTRUMENTS SOUND.
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Jay Guin Forum
I’ve allow this comment through because you’ve succinctly explained your position. Let’s see if it’s true.
The synagogue is defined in Numbers 10 for holding A Holy Convocation
“Holy convocation” does not appear in Num 10, but it does appear several places in the Torah. The Greek is that is, “holy assembly” or epiklEtos hagia. It’s not the same word used for “synagogue” or “church.” And Num 10:10 does indeed describe a festival that is elsewhere referred to as a “holy convocation.”
The command for that festival is for a ram’s horn (or trumpet) to be blown, it’s true. But the Psalms make this statement –
1 Sing aloud to God our strength;
shout for joy to the God of Jacob!
2 Raise a song; sound the tambourine,
the sweet lyre with the harp.
3 Blow the trumpet at the new moon,
at the full moon, on our feast day.
This is plainly a reference to the use of singing and instruments during the feast day of Num 10:10. And Numbers 10:10 refers to the blowing of the horn! But the Psalm plainly adds to the “silence” by allowing singing and instruments!!
Thus, it’s quite impossible to treat Num 10:10
as limiting a “holy convocation” to just study and trumpet calls. David
himself calls on his readers to sing and play other instruments —
because it’s a celebration!
The synagogue was not invented by the Prophets, but is an invention
of man. There was no singing or instruments until long after the First
Century, but nowhere in the Bible is the Christian assembly said to be
built on the synagogue.
Indeed, the best evidence is that the assembly is built on the
Passover tradition, if anything, which included … singing. And probably
dancing (it certainly did at a later date). But neither singing nor
dancing is commanded in the Torah.
They were added. As were the cups of
wine that Jesus sanctified. It was a meal, and prayers were said, hymns
sung, and the Jews celebrated as Middle Easterners celebrate.
And, of course, there is explicit NT references to singing in the assembly. Therefore, to suggest that Num 10:10 demonstrates that we cannot sing in the assembly is absurd and utterly devoid of scriptural support. In fact, the evidence suggests that adding to God-ordained rituals is permitted.
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OUR RESPONSE TO SEVERAL PROOFS THAT THE PROGRESSIVES DO NOT KNOW THE STORY LINE.
Jay Guin: Indeed, the best evidence is that the assembly is built on the
Passover tradition, if anything, which included … singing. And probably
dancing (it certainly did at a later date). But neither singing nor
dancing is commanded in the Torah.
No, after the non-commanded burnt
goats accompanied by the INSTRUMENTS COMMANDED BY DAVID, the Levites
sang WHILE the following Passover: the "silence" omits instruments and
the Passover was a FAMILY AFFAIR and was Roast Lamb and that is exactly
how Jesus and the apostles celebrated the LAST passover.
The Jews celevrated;
this was the Babylonian substitute and you remember that Esther
reversed the charges and got the Babylonians drunk so they TURNED on
one another. I have covered that in a rebuttal of Al Maxey's false claim that the synagogue was a human invention.
Jesus observed the Biblical Passover which was to be KILLED and ROASTED. AFTER SUPPER the "feast of unleavened bread was merged." The fifth cup was unfermented as the MARK that the Forerunner had already come.
Maxey is ignorant of the Word--strongly delusioned He is confessing that instruments are SIN but grace will cover up the smell.
Jay Guin: They were added. As were the cups of
wine that Jesus sanctified. It was a meal, and prayers were said, hymns
sung, and the Jews celebrated as Middle Easterners celebrate.
Jesus repudiated all of the additions such as getting drunk on wine at the Babylonian Passover.
Matthew 26 They Sung a Hymn and Went out
You cannot sing psalms in a tuneful: they SPOKE one Hallel hymn
and WENT OUT. The Christian Connexion split over whether to end
the services with a pray or a psalm. Repeting the hallel not connected to the Passover was considered blashemy.
Matthew 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed
it, and brake it,
and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat;
this is my body.
John 13:27 And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.
G5596 psōmion
pso-mee'-on Diminutive from a derivation of the base of G5597 ; a crumb
or morsel (as if rubbed off), that is, a mouthful:—sop.
G5597 psōchō pso'-kho Prolongation from the same base as G5567 ; to triturate, that is, (by analogy) to rub out (kernels from husks with the fingers or hand):—rub.
G5567 psallō psal'-lo Probably strengthened from ψάω psaō (to rub or touch the surface; compare G5597 ); to twitch or twang
Psaō [a_, but always contracted], II. crumble away, vanish, disappear, S.Tr.678 (s. v. l.). (psaō, psaiō, psauō, psairō, psēkhō, psōkhō,
Psaiō , A.
= psaō (q. v.), rub away, grind down
Psal-ma , atos, to, A.
tune played on a stringed instrument,
Psal-mizō , A.
sing psalms, and psal-mistēs , ou, ho, psalmist
Matthew 26.30 When they had 'hymned" they went out to
the Mount of Olives.
I believe that the Latin agrees with the common understanding that
"singing was using the normal inflections of the human voice."
Especially when you are confessing God the Father by the use of a hymn
or prayer which gives HIM the glory. Mature males then and probably now
do not agree to get together to appease God with singing.
GOD GAVE JESUS THE WORD WITHOUT "METER" AS THE WORD IS OFTEN TRANSLATED.
There is no Biblical text (that which is commanded) which is
metrical. That had to wait of John Calvin's permission to REWRITE
some Psalms (only) to a few melodies to be sung in UNISON (only).
Matthew 26.30 et hymno dicto exierunt in montem Oliveti
Hymnus , i, m., = humnos, I. a song of praise, a hymn: “hymnus cantus est cum laude Dei,” Aug. Enarr. in Psa. 148, 17; Ambros. Expos. Psa. 118, prol. § 3; Lucil. ap. Non. 330, 9; Prud. Cath. 37 praef.; 4, 75: “divinorum scriptor hymnorum,” Lact. 4, 8, 14; Vulg. Psa. 60 tit.; id. Matt. 26, 30.
Psalm 60 A
teaching poem by David, when he fought with Aram Naharaim and with Aram
Zobah, and Joab returned, and killed twelve thousand of Edom in the
Valley of Salt.
There is no SINGING TUNEFULLY involved in hymning:
Dīco, to say, tell, mention, relate, affirm, declare, state; to mean, intend (for syn. cf.: for, loquor stands for the Gr. eipein pros tina,
Ontōs , Adv. part. of eimi A.
(sum), really, actually, verily, with Verb
Alēth-ēs a^, Dor. ala_thēs , es, (lēthō,
I.
Hom., Opposite. pseudēs, in phrases alēthea muthēsasthai, eipein, agoreuein, alēthes enispein
3.
of oracles, true, unerring, “alathea mantiōn thōkon” Pi. P.11.6, cf. S.Ph.993, E.Ion1537; of dreams, A.Th.710. “alēthei logō khrasthai” Hdt. 1.14
Opposite Epos 1.
song or lay accompanied by music, 8.91,17.519.
b.
generally, poetry, even lyrics
5.
celebrate, of poets, “Aiantos bian
Acts 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:
Romans 3:2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
Hebrews 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
1Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God;
if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth:
that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom
be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Luke 2.34 and Simeon blessed them, and said to
Mary, his mother, "Behold, this child is set for the falling and the
rising of many in Israel, and for a sign which is spoken against
When Dico is translated SING it never speaks of tunefulness:
Dīco, 4. To describe, relate, sing, celebrate in writing (mostly poet.): “tibi dicere laudes,” Tib. 1, 3, 31; so, “laudes Phoebi [Apollo, Abaddon, Apollyon] et Dianae,” Hor. C. S. 76: “Dianam,
Laudo, I.
to praise, laud, commend, extol, eulogize, approve
1.
To pronounce a funeral oration over a person:
3.
To praise, compliment, i. e. dismiss with a compliment, leave,
to adduce, name, quote, cite a person as any thing: sermo
Sermo , ōnis, m. 2. sero, qs. serta, conserta oratio, Of prose as opposed to poetry
b. of verses in a conversational style, To Inculcate
II.
Transf., a manner of speaking, mode of expression, language, style, diction, etc. (cf. lingua):
Jay Guin: The synagogue was not invented by the Prophets, but is an invention
of man. There was no singing or instruments until long after the First
Century, but nowhere in the Bible is the Christian assembly said to be
built on the synagogue.
Indeed, the best evidence is that the assembly is built on the Passover
tradition, if anything, which included … singing. And probably dancing
(it certainly did at a later date).
The TEXT was inspired by Christ the Rock to
quarantine the godly people FROM anything you can use as a pattern to
presume to add to the Word. Al Maxey has been the main misteacher
claiming that the synagogue was ADDED by man without authority and God
didn't burn the. Therefore, WE have the authority to ADD instruments to
the School (only) of Christ (only). Of course that is deliberate
lying TO CHRIST and ABOUT Christ and Jeremiah 23 Christ calls that
blasphemy. If you defend a blasphemer just because he spreads hate
against those who will not PROFANE the assembly, you are a Goner.
Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
God ABANDONED Israel to the worship of the starry host as Jay let me post.
The Levites were under the king and commanders of the army.
The Levites were commanded to EXECUTE you if you got NEAR any of the horrors of the sacrificial system.
You cannot add ANYTHING which diminishes teaching the Word as it has been taught
None of the Babylonish antics of that ABANDONED monarchy trumped the ONLY Spiritual Covenant made by Christ with Abraham.
- Synagogue was not an institution but a set-time-place.
- The Holy Convocation was held on the first and sixth days during festivals.
- This holy convocation defined as Reading and Rehearsing the Word of God came to be every REST day.
- Numbers 10
defines the difference between the Alarm (vocal or instrumental
rejoicing or elevated speech) from the quiet assembly for instruction
only. That is how Jesus exampled it and commanded it with the
“ekklesia” word for reading, discussing and summarizing something from
a HIGHER authority.
No historical scholar ever missed that by missing Acts 7 which repudiated temple as a HOUSE for God.
Every seven years, that is in the year of release, during the feast of Tabernacles, the Law was to be read
before all the people according to the command found in Deut., xxxi,
10. But this enactment was probably soon found to be impracticable; and
thus the Jewish authorities arranged to read on every sabbath,
commencing with the sabbath after the feast of Tabernacles in one year
of release and ending with the feast of Tabernacles in the next year of
release, a portion of the Law so calculated that the whole Pentateuch
would be read through in seven years. This would in some way the
commandment be fulfilled. Some time later, the Jews of Palestine
lengthened the sections for each sabbath in such a manner that he
entire Law could be read in three years (Talm. Babyl. Megillah, 29b)
The Kingdom of Christ makes that the Prophets and
Apostles Christ being the source of both which REPUDIATES all
instrumental music in any holy place.
Isaiah was the ASSIGNED text already opened when Jesus stood up
to read and then decently sat down. No preaching, no singing in the
synagogue.
It is easy to miss “synagogue” as Church beginning the wilderness
because people look up the word synagogue. Jesus “came together” or
synagogued with the disciples two first days in a row.
When Paul uses “come together, assemble or gather” he always uses forms of the “synagogue” word. James also uses “translate.”
The godly people never did “worship IN the Temple.” John Calvin defined the synagogue in Numbers 10 Latin Con-grego Congrego Academia
“The church #1577 ekklesia – assembly, called out ones,
set apart ones, congregation; in Hebrew this word is #6951 qahal
(kahal) – a “synagogue” (E. W. Bullinger, Commentary on Revelation, p.
165-166), an assemblage, congregation, company from the root #6950
qahal meaning specifically a coming together, an assembling, a
convocation, congregation; this word is used mostly for religious
purposes (see William Wilson’s Old Testament Word Studies, p. 92)
“The LXX uses the word ekklesia to translate the Hebrew qahal. Qahal
means to call, to assemble, and the noun form means a congregation or
assembly. Solomon is called koheleth the Preacher, translated by the
LXX ekklesiastes. The earliest known occurrence of the word is found in
Job 30:28,
‘I cried in the congregation’. In the books of the law, qahal is
rendered by the Greek word sunagoge, showing that the synagogue is the
beginning of the New Testament church. Stephen in his speech which
ended in his martyrdom referred to the history of Israel, and dwells
for considerable length upon the one great leader Moses, saying in Acts 7:38:
Church.
‘This is he, that was in the CHURCH in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sinai’.
The people of Israel, looked upon as ‘a called-out assembly’ were ‘the Church’ of that period. By Charles H. Welch
JAY GUIN REFUSED TO POST THE CLEAR BIBLICAL PROOF: EKKLESIA IS SYNAGOGUE
But, he continued to allow the instrumentalists to post along with others who know not to provoke.
KEN PROVOKED JAY WITH
Jay I have responded where I can exand. There will be no shame in confessing that you followed Al Maxey to do evil.
If the church is still the qahal–ekklesia
And it is a School (only) of Christ in the prophets and apostles.
And that vocal or instrumental rejoicing is outlawed to guard against the lawless
And the NACC founded with the DNA to try to force everyone to Bow to Baal
Then you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit of Christ Who spoke through
the prophets to forbid “speaking” your own words on the rest day.
I have picked on you because you have been led into being the most vocal.
I believe that is my “assignment.” I hope that has instructed some of
the more than 18000 congregations only 21 which have been deceived by
being handled by the NACC.
To say that churches of Christ were ever unioned in any sense with
the Disciples of Christ is really psychological violence trying to
intimidate. It is a lie and they have had less success than Judas whose
prophesied bag was for “carrying the mouthpieces of wind instruments.”
He was a thief and Jesus dispatched him with the SOP which has the same
root meaning as PSALLO.
To moderate my response to your charges is NOT manly or honest.
KEN: GO TO GOOGLE AND LOOK UP THE "EFFEMINATE WORSHIP LEADER."
Johannes Quasten. In Music and Worship in Pagan and
Christian
Antiquity,
beginning on page 41 He uses many of the church Fathers and Classical
resources we also rely upon:
"Philodemus
considered it paradoxical that music should be regarded as veneration
of the gods
while musicians were paid for performing this so-called
veneration. Again, Philodemus held as
self deceptive the view that music mediated religious ecstasy. He saw the entire
condition induced by the noise of
cymbals and tambourines as a disturbance of the spirit.
He
found it
significant that, on the whole, only women and effeminate men fell into this
folly.
Accordingly,
nothing
of value could be attributed to
music;
it was no more
than a slave
of the sensation of pleasure, which
satisfied much in the same way
that food and drink did.
"Now,
many a man
from
the false
religions, which are
not ashamed of criticising what is noble,
will ask: how can there be a feast without carousing and overeating, without the pleasant
company of hosts and guests,
without quantities of unmixed wine, without richly set
tables and highly stacked
provisions of everything that pertains to a banquet, without pageantry and jokes,
bantering
and
merry-making to the accompaniment of flutes
and citharas, the sound of drums
and cymbals and
other effeminate and frivolous music
of every king,
enkindling
unbridled lusts with
the help of the sense of
hearing. For in and
through the same [pleasures] those persons openly seek their joy, for what true joy is
their they do not
know.
JAY CONTINUES TO TEACH A PROOF-TEXT DOGMA
JAY: (1Co 14:26
ESV) 26 What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a
hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Let all
things be done for building up.
JAY THEN "CUT OFF MY RESPONSE TO BE MODERATED." He
didn't repent for ignoring the proof that the Qahal, synagogue or
Church in the wilderness was RESTRICTED to Rest, Reading and Rehearsing
the Word.
IF YOU UNDERSTAND THAT CHRIST COMMANDED THAT DISCIPLES BE TAUGHT WHAT
HE COMMANDED TO BE TAUGHT THEN YOU CANNOT HALLUCINATE INSTRUMENTS.
BUILDING UP IS EDUCATION WITH THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN FOR OUR LEARNING.
I Understand: if church is ekklesia or synagogue then you are commanded as an elder to 'teach that which has been commanded.
A GODLY ELDER WILL TEACH THAT WHICH HAS BEEN TAUGHT.
1Corinthians 14:3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
Prophēt-eia , hē, III.
in NT, gift of EXPOUNDING scripture, or of speaking and preaching, under the influence of the Holy Spirit (cf. prophētēs), Ep.Rom.12.6, 1 Ep.Cor.12.10, 1 Ep.Ti.1.18, 4.14, al.
Corinthians 14:23 If therefore the whole church be come together into
one place,
and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are
unlearned, or unbelievers,
will they not say that ye are mad?
1Corinthians 14:7 And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped?
1Corinthians 14:24 But if all prophesy, [Teach the Word]
and there come in one that
believeth not,
or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged
of all:
BUT, on the other hand, Paul defines what THEY were DOING: He does NOT appove.
1Corinthians 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when YE come together,
everyone of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation,
hath an interpretation.
Let all things be done unto edifying.
NO, Jay, Reading 1O1a: that is a REBUKE.
BUT, not ALL of you are INSPIRED are you (1 Cor 12)
Paul didn't say "Let all things be DONE." The all things are what edifies or EDUCATES.
Paul commanded that we use ONE MIND and ONE MOUTH: Peter warned that people will use Paul to their own destruction.
Clement Stromata
It is said also in Libya, that a
scorpion,
if it does not succeed in stinging a man, goes away and returns with several more; and that, hanging on one to the other like a chain
they make in this way the attempt to succeed in their cunning
design.
The irrational
creatures do not make use of an
obscure intimation, or hint their meaning by assuming a particular attitude, but,
as I think, by a dialect of their
own. 291 And some others say, that if a fish which has been
taken escape by breaking the line, no fish of the same kind will be
caught in the same place that day.
But the first
and generic barbarous dialects have terms by nature, since also men
confess that prayers uttered in a barbarian tongue are more powerful.
Yet in the church I
had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I
might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown
tongue. 1 Cor 14:19
Speak and Logos is the mark of the Mature Masculine. Sing and Sophia is the mark of the effeminate or perverted.
All pagans got aroused with music and "prophesied" like the Levites who performed SOOTHSAYING with instrumental accompany.
Plato speaking of the symposium (getting drunk and abused with music)
SPEAK outlaws any of they hypocritic arts:
Logos, verbal noun of lego
Opposite kata pathos
Opposite music, poetry or rhetoric
Opposite human reasoning
Opposite Epagoge bringint in to one's aid, introduction
Alurement, enticement, incantation, spell
Opposite Pathos A.
that which happens to a person or thing, incident, accident,
where this incident took place, unfortunate accident,
2.
what one has experienced, good or bad, experience
II.
of the soul, emotion, passion (“legō de pathē . . holōs hois hepetai hēdonē ē lupē” Arist.EN1105b21), “sophiē psukhēn pathōn aphaireitai”
Aristot. Nic. Eth. 1105b.20 A state of the soul is either （l） an emotion, （2） a
capacity, or （3） a disposition; virtue therefore must be one of these
three things.
[2]
By the emotions, I mean desire, anger,
fear, confidence, envy, joy, friendship, hatred, longing, jealousy, pity; and generally
those states of consciousness which are accompanied by pleasure or pain.
The capacities
are the faculties in virtue of which we can be said to be liable to the emotions, for
example, capable of feeling anger or pain (or fear) or pity.
The dispositions are the formed states of character in virtue of which we are well or ill
disposed in respect of the emotions; for instance, we have a bad disposition in regard to
anger if we are disposed to get angry too violently or not violently enough, a good
disposition if we habitually feel a moderate amount of anger; and similarly in respect of
the other emotions.
[3]
Now the virtues and vices are not emotions because we are not pronounced good or bad
according to our emotions, but we are according to our virtues and vices; nor are we
either praised or blamed for our emotions—a man is not praised for being
frightened or angry, nor is he blamed for being angry merely, but for being angry in a
certain way—
Sophia, A.
cleverness or skill in handicraft and art in music and singing, tekhnē kai s. h.Merc.483, cf. 511; in poetry, Sol.13.52, Pi.O.1.117, Ar.Ra.882, X.An.1.2.8,
in divination, S.OT 502 (lyr.
And Plato, in the
Cratylus, when wishing to
interpreter (fire), says that it is a
barbaric
term. He testifies, accordingly, that the Phrygians use this term
with a slight deviation.
Wherefore let him
that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. 1 Co
14:13
But in the church I would
rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten
thousand words in a tongue. 1 Cor 14:19
The Greeks say, that among them are five
dialects-the Attic, Ionic, Doric, Aeolic, and the
fifth the
Common; and that the languages of the barbarians, which are
innumerable, are not called dialects, but tongues.
Plato attributes a dialect also to the gods,
forming this conjecture mainly from dreams and oracles, and
especially from
demoniacs, who do not speak their
own language or dialect,
but that of the demons who have
taken possession of them.
And he called the myths themselves
"children," as if the progeny of those, wise in their own conceits among the
Greeks, who had but little insight
meaning by the "hoary studies" the truth which was possessed by the
barbarians, dating from the highest antiquity. To which expression
he opposed the phrase "child
fable," censuring the mythical
character of the attempts of the moderns, as, like children, having
nothing of age in them, and affirming both in common-their fables and
their speeches-to be puerile.
Brethren, be not
children in understanding: howbeit in malice be
ye children, but in understanding be men. 1 Cor14:20
Paul called the musical idolatry at Mount Sinai DEMON WORSHIP.
Then
know that there is no Biblical or historical exception to the persona
of Rhetoric, singing and instrument players: Christ calls them
hypocrites.
Stephen also said that God did NOT command that the literal HOUSE be built.
No one prior to the Disciples ever denied the meaning of CENI
http://www.piney.com/ComExamInfer.html
The Campells absolutely had read the Old Testament.
Churh is A School of Christ
Worship is READING and musing the Word.
If you add music then you tell Christ "shut your mouth." Music means "to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter.
If music doesn't get you the universal purpose of the NACC to sow discord
JAY REFUSED TO EVEN RECEIVE MY RESPONSE
Ephesians 6
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,
but against principalities, against powers,
against the rulers of the darkness of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Ephesians 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God,
that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Ephesians 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth,
and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
Ephesians 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
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blood:
[12] diabolou: hoti ouk estin hêmin hê palê pros haima kai sarka, alla pros tas archas, pros tas exousias, pros tous kosmokratoras touskotous toutou, pros ta pneumatika tês ponêrias en tois epouraniois
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Pale (g3823) pal'-ay; from pallo, (to vibrate; another form for 906); wrestling:
- / wrestle
G906 ballō bal'-lo A
primary verb; to throw (in various applications, more or less violent
or intense):arise, cast (out), X dung, lay, lie, pour, put (up), send,
strike, throw (down), thrust. Compare G4496 .
Pallô, poise, sway
a missile before it is
thrown, sway, brandish, she drove it furiously, tripped
on the shield-rim, quiver, leap, esp. in fear,
II.
Pass., swing, dash oneself,
Pi.N.5.21; vibrate,
of strings, Pl.Phd.94c (psalloito ap. Stob.);
skirtêtikon kai pallomenon to neon
(etym. of Pallas) Corn.ND20, cf. Pl.Cra. 407a. III. intr., leap,
bound, E.El.435, Ar.Lys.1304 (lyr.); [p. 1294] quiver, quake,
phrena
deimati pallôn S.OT153 (lyr.); dash along, of horses, E.El.477
(lyr.).
Pi.N.5.21 Pindar, Nemean 5. |
Ephesians 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith,
wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
Ephesians 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit,
which is the word of God:
Ephesians 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the spirit, [yours]
and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
Ephesians 6:19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me,
that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
Ephesians 6:20 For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly,
as I ought to speak.
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The role of the elder is to "teach that which has been
taught" and refute those who oppose it. No one can use the context and
do away with the concept of
eternal destiny of our soul. The way an elder "feeds" Jesus is to feed His children: the only FOOD is the
Word of
Christ. If you muddle heads with human philosophy and pseudo-theology you are in danger of hell:
Jeremiah 23:1 Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.
Jeremiah 23:2 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people;
Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them:
behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.
Jeremiah 23:3 And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them,
and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.
Jeremiah 23:4 And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them:
and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD.
Jer 23:17 They say still
unto them that despise me,
The
Lord hath said, Ye shall have peace;
and they
say unto every one that walketh
after
the
imagination
of
his
own
heart, [the sons of the devil]
No evil
shall come upon you
Despise tthe Word of God of God and using your own words
is:
Blasphēm-eō
, pf.
2. speak
ill or to the prejudice of one, slander, “peri tēs emēs diatribēs” Isoc.15.2, cf. D.l.c.,
ib.82; “b. kata tinos” Isoc.12.65, cf. Arist.Fr.44; “hosa eis hēmas eblasphēmēsan” D.51.3; “b. tina” Babr.71.6,
Ev.Luc.23.39,
etc.: abs., Phld.Lib.p.8
O.:—Pass., to have evil spoken of one, “beblasphēmēmenous” Id.Vit.p.12
J., cf. 1 Ep.Cor.10.30.
3. speak impiously or irreverently
of
God,
blaspheme, “eis ton Kurion” LXX Da.3.29(96);
“eis to pneuma to hagion” Ev.Marc.3.29; eis ta theia
Vett. Val.58.12; “tous theous” Id.67.20: abs., LXX 2 Ma.10.34,
al., Ev.Matt.9.3.
Those who CLAIM God said something He did not:
Jeremiah 23:39 Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you,
and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence:
Jeremiah 23:40 And I will bring an everlasting reproach upon you,
and a perpetual shame, which shall not be forgotten.
Because this was the Word of Christ it is still in effect:
IF ELDERS TEACH OUT OF THEIR OWN HEAD AND PLAN AND APPROVE OF OFFENDING THE CHILDREN:
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Matthew 25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on
the left hand,
Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire,
prepared for the devil and his angels:
Matthew 25:42 For I was an hungred,
and ye gave me no meat:
I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
John 4:34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
Christ gave us the free water of the Word Isaiah 55
He outlawed speaking OUR OWN Words Isaiah 58
Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city
them that preach him,
being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away
into everlasting [aiōnion] punishment:
but the righteous into
life eternal. [aiōnion]
Aiōnios
5. aiōnion, to, = aeizōon to mega, Ps.-Dsc.4.88.
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Mark 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me,
it is better for him that a millstone were
hanged about his neck,
and he were cast into the sea.
Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed,
than having two hands to go into hell
into the fire that never shall be quenched.
The fires of literal Gehenna WERE quenched.
Aeternus, I.
without beginning or end, eternal (sempiternus denotes what is perpetual, what exists as long as time endures, and keeps even pace with it; aeternus, the eternal, that which is raised above all time, and can be measured only by œons ( aiōnes, indefinite periods); for Tempus est pars quaedam aeternitatis,” Cic. Inv. 1, 27, 39. Thus the sublime thought, without beginning and end, is more vividly suggested by aeternus than by sempiternus, since the former has more direct reference to the long duration of the eternal, which has neither beginning nor end. Sempiternus is rather a mathematical, aeternus a metaphysical, designation of eternity, Doed. Syn. I. p.
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8.30.11 The
Churches of Christ was never "unioned" with the Disciples of Christ /
Christian Churches. Don't be duped. All church census began in 1906 and
the Churches of Christ denied that they could be counted in the
Disciples of Christ/Christian Church denomination. Refusing to be
counted by the Disciples was no more sectarian than refusing to be
counted with the Baptists or Methodists. What became the
Christian Church did not begin to sect out of the Disciples until a
decade later--1927--and still fellowshipped the Disciples until 1971.
Jay Guin, Rick Atchley, Chris Seidman etal follow the pattern of the
NACC to use the Goat holocaust in 2 Chronicles 29 to say that God
commanded "instrumental praise." This one-time event called
exorcism where the Levites performed as Soothsayers with instrumental
accompaniment is their example.
Christ in the Prophets call the Civil-Military-Clergy complex robbers
and parasites and DENIES that God commanded sacrifices or burnt
offerings. He also warns about the Lying Pen of The Scribes: The
Scribes were the ones Jesus called Hypocrites where Christ in Ezekiel
and Isaiah names Speakers, Singers and instrument players. These were
the MARKS that people had no intention of hearing and obeying the Word
of God.
The Levites made the same
"making the lambs dumb before the slaughter" noise just before and just
after Hezekiah's plague stopping exorcism.
Read 2 Chronicle 33 to prove that the Levites making noise was the PATTERNISM of burning infants.
Paul marked the sin beyond redemption at Mount Sinai as the worship of DEMONS.
Porphyry The Iamblichus
Of such a character are some of the animals of Egypt, and in the
same manner, the human being everywhere is sacred.12 Some of the
consecrated victims, however, make the familiar relationship more
conspicuous, so far as they affect the analysis in respect to the
kindred and more sacred origin of the primitive elements with the
Superior (divine) causes. This being accomplished, the benefits which
are imparted from it are more perfect.12. In other words, likely to be a victim at the
altar.
"As Manetho related, they were used in archaic times to burn
living men in the city of Ilithyia styling them Typhonian." Ashmes,
who expelled the Hyk-sos rulers, put an end to the custom. It existed
in Asiatic countries, where Semitic worships existed, and even the
Hebrews seem not to have been an exception
14.
Porphyry and others of the philosophers of that
period
declared distinctly that the sacrifices of living
creatures
were not for the gods at all,
but for daemons and the lower orders of
spiritual essences.
Indeed, their sentiments were considered
as
evidence of a hostility to Judaism. In archaic times, and even in
many centuries of the historical period, human victims were
immolated, and the Hebrew writings seem to recognize the
custom
(Leviticus xxvii, 28, 29; Judges xi, 30-40; Micah, vi, 7).
Plutarch
denounced this practice,
and declared his belief that there
was never
a god that required it,
but it was only intended to avert and
appease
the malice and rancor of evil spirits.
The slaughter of hogs at the
festivals of Adonis, Osiris and Demites
seems to have been of the
latter character, as swine were abhorred in Oriental
countries.
The Hyksos entering Egypt.
Is it predestinated that suddenly led by the agents of the NACC a hostile attack has been mounted against the ANTI-instrumentalists who were
"birthed" preaching "unity" but using all of the mentions of an
instrument to now say that God COMMANDS the use of instruments and you
are disobedient and worthy of attack if you don't confirm or conform.
This was also the meaning of burning the goats begun after Nadab and
Abihu when God imposed the day of Atonement and demanded that the
scapegoat be an offering to the DEVIL.
When false preachers COMMAND the use of instrumental music by the
command of "a" spirit, they may not realize it but by God's will to
those strongly deluded thy may be trying to delay being cast alive into
the lake of fire: there to be burned just the way infants were burned
by the Jews while trying to DISPEL the evil spirits now hovering over
the "worship service" like hungry flies.
The Disciples / Christian Churches were the first to say that GOD COMMANDED INSTRUMENTAL WORSHIP
in the Old Testament and since He has not changed the Law, they say it is still
acceptable to use instrumental music in what is described solely as "A
School of the Word of Christ" as Jesus commanded when He sent preachers
OUT.
Those willing to sow massive discord CANNOT FIND any
negative connection to music in the presence of God. It was musical
idolatry at Mount Sinai which was a sin without redemption. The Levites
used as the patternism for the instrumental sectarians volunteered to
slaughter 3,000 of their brethren who fell into musical idolatry. The
Levites then lost their inheritance and were commanded to "stand guard"
before any presumed holy thing or place. If one not of the tribe
of Levi or Levites not on duty came near or in any holy thing or place
they were "strangers" and the Levites were the Execution Ministers of
the not-commanded sacrificial system. The fact that under the King and
Commandersof the Army assigned the Levites to make a great, terrorizing
sound during animal sacrifices did not make them a legalistic
petternism for the heresy of "musical worship teams." In fact by
word definition of "prophesying" they SOOTHSAYED accompanied with
INSTRUMENTAL NOISE. The "levitical" sounds were always the
prelude to a "burnt offering" and therefore, the speakers, singers and
instrument players in Revelation 18 performed SORCERY with INSTRUMENTAL
ACCOMPANIMENT.
Strange: Paul told the Jews in 2 Corinth (ch 3) that they wouldl not be able to read BLACK text on BROWN
paper until they converted or were baptized into Christ. Each
study doing "Word excavating" brings forth a flood of new
information.
- Rich Atchley, Jay
Guin etal use all of the mentions of "instruments" as authority for
their use in The School of Christ (the command of Christ and understood by the Campbells and all scholars).
- Most of these
"mentions" relate to the Sacrificial system of people abandoned to worship the
Starry host on their way to Babylon. Christ says that God did not
command sacrifices or burnt offerings while Rick Atckley says that God
even commanded his church to use the Levites as authority.
- Never once are instruments related to "congregational" worship which was in the synagogues: never iINSIDE the Temple.
- Over and over
musical instruments are connected to the holocaust or being burned up
in fire: Instruments also signal making war or rebellion.
- One wonders if this
is not the strong delusions Paul warned about marked by lying wonders
which are religious rituals using all of the arts and crafts Christ
defined as HYPOCRITES naming preachers, singers and instrument
players. The Millstone was a pipe or flute based on it being
"perforated" or polluted and made a piping sound which announced where
the grinders/prostitues could be found.
Rick Atchley-Chris Seidman: The Levites were commanded to
EXECUTE
anyone who came near any holy place during the slaughter of innocent
animals which were NOT commanded by God. He says, and Jay Quin posts Rick Atchley, "
How we seduced your children" to violate all of the direct commands of god.
They never
heard the sermons we heard.
They never heard the rationale for a
cappella music.
We sent them to youth rallies and Church of Christ
events
with some of the finest Christian bands in the world.
Well, we discipled the
children of those progressive churches
for a whole generation to grow
past us Boomers.
They never heard the sermons we heard.
They never
heard the rationale for a cappella music.
We sent them to youth
rallies and Church of Christ events with some of the finest Christian
bands in the world. We discipled our children to leave our Movement!
They’re
not leaving the kingdom of God, and I’m not saying that — so please
hear me say, I’m not placing the health of the Movement above the
kingdom of God — I want my kids to love Jesus, but I do think that
Churches need to understand.
Isn't this PREDESTINED when Jesus says that
the kingdom DOES NOT COME to "religious observations" or what they call
a "worship service." All or most believe that God commanded
instrumental worship and CHANGED HIS MIND. No one who believes
that is fit to be WAGED out of the widow's purse.
THIS IS A PATTERNISM AS OLD AS LUCIFER OR APOLLYON.
There is nothing which justifies
deliberate deception:
from the Jubilee onward we understood that the object was to leave the
older people behind. That would not be too bad but anyone who would
play
Machiavelli cannot possibly read
BLACK TEXT on
BROWN
PAPER (2 Cor 3). It is clear that the hireling-changelings make no
attempt to use the Word as it is written: they don't need to with a
large dose of spiritual deception in high places and intimidating those
they are pledged to serve.
READING THE BIBLE AT A HIGHER LEVEL OF MAKING SERMON OUTLINES PROVES
THAT DESTROYING THE CHURCH IN FAVOR OF RADICALIZING THE "KINGDOM" IS
PROPHETIC OF ALL PERIODS. The Book of Jude quotes The Book
of Enoch who tells FOR WHOM God will come to execute vengeance on the
violent men:
THE SECOND THOUSAND YEARS: YâReD TO
THE FLOOD.
Of the Transmission of the Art of
Playing the Harp, that is to say of Music
and Singing and Dancing.
Yôbâl (Jubal) and Tôbalkin
(Tubal-Cain), the two brethren, the sons of Lamech, the blind man,
who killed Cain, invented and made all kinds of instruments of music.
- Jôbâl made reed instruments, and
harps, and flutes, and
whistles,
- and the devils went and dwelt
inside them.
- When men blew into the pipes, the
devils sang inside
them,
- and sent out sounds from inside
them.
Tôbalkîn made Fol. 12a, col. 2 cymbals, and
sistra,
and tambourines (or drums). And lasciviousness and fornication
increased among the children of Cain, and they had nothing to occupy
them except fornication--now they had no obligation to pay tribute,
and they had neither prince nor governor--and eating, and drinking,
and lasciviousness, and drunkenness,
and dancing and singing to instruments of music,
and the wanton sportings of the devils,
and the laughter which affordeth pleasure to the devils, and the
sounds of the furious lust of men neighing after women.
See Enoch
and Second Peter
See the same pattern in Romans
And Satan, finding his opportunity in this
work of error, rejoiced greatly, because thereby he could compel the sons of
Seth to come down from that holy mountain.
There they had been made to occupy the place
of that army of angels that fell with Satan, there they were beloved by God,
there they were held in honour by the angels, and were called "sons
of God," even as the blessed David saith in the psalm,
"I have said Fol. I b, col. I, Ye are
gods, and all of you sons of the Most High." Ps. 82:6
GOD
standeth in the congregation of the mighty;
he judgeth among the gods. Psalm 82:1
How long will ye
judge unjustly,
and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah. Psalm
82:2
Defend the poor and
fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. Psalm 82:3
Deliver the poor and
needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked. Psalm 82:4
They know not,
neither will they understand;
they walk on in darkness: all the
foundations of the earth
are out of course. Psalm 82:5
I have said,
Ye are
gods; and
all of you are children of the most High. Psalm 82:6
But ye shall die
like men, and fall like one of the princes. Psalm 82:7
THE CHANGE MOVEMENT DERIVED FROM GRAMSCI, LEBON, Machiavelli, HITLER ETAL. They depend upon the fact that by REFUSING to teach you, you don't know that Jesus told you
NOT to go to any of these
Mass Rally's. Ezekiel calls them workshops of evil where prophets go to steal words one from another to return and SELL them.
"The mass
meeting is also necessary for the
reason that in it the individual, who at first while becoming a
supporter of a young movement, feels lonely and easily succumbs to
the fear of being alone, for the first time gets the picture of a
larger community, which in most people has a strengthening,
encouraging effect.
The same man, within a company or a
battalion, surrounded by all his comrades, would set out on an attack
with a lighter heart than if left entirely on his own.
In the crowd he always feels somewhat
sheltered, even if a thousand reasons
actually argue against it.
But the community of the great
demonstration not only
strengthens the individual, it also unites
and helps to create an esprit de corps. The man who is exposed to grave tribulations, as
the first advocate of a new doctrine in his factory or workshop,
absolutely needs
that strengthening which lies in the conviction of being a
member and fighter in a
great comprehensive body.
And he obtains an impression of
this body for the first time in the mass demonstration. When from his little workshop or big factory, in
which he feels very small,
he steps for the first time into a
mass meeting and has thousands and thousands of people of the same
opinions around him, when, as a seeker,
(Als
Suchender.' A Wagnerian phrase, which
Hitler was apparently determined to use at all costs)
he is swept away by three or
four thousand others into the mighty
effect of suggestive intoxication
and enthusiasm,
when the visible success and agreement of
thousands confirm to him the rightness of the new doctrine and for
the first time arouse doubt in the truth of his previous conviction -
then he himself has succumbed to
the magic influence of what we designate as 'mass suggestion.'
The will, the longing, and also the power of
thousands are accumulated in every
individual. The man who enters such a
meeting doubting and wavering leaves it inwardly reinforced: he has
become a link in the
community.
The National Socialist movement must never
forget this and in particular
it must never let itself be
influenced by those bourgeois
s who know
everything better,
but who nevertheless have gambled away a great state including their own
existence and the rule of their class."
SEE HOW VIOLENT MEN TAKE THE KINGDOM BY VIOLENCE
Jesus said that God
HIDES Himself from the
wise: Sophists are preachers,
singers, instrument players. The JOKE God plays to make them into a
joke is that the Kingdom of GOD will
NOT
be there while people are performing "worship services" or religious
services." Using rhetoric or music is always identified as
"enchantment" or "sorcery." The intention of sermonizing beyond the
text intends to put the FULL power of the preacher into assemblying the
Words of Christ into a format he believes is magical and warrants his
"seeing godliness as a means of financial gain." Corrupting the word is
selling learning at retail: that is why the command is to teach that
which has been taught. He intends to tamper with your delicate
mind to make the unbelievable believable. That is why using external
means to
inculcate an opinion is EXTREME
PSYCHOLOGICAL VIOLENCE.
Charles Spurgeon looked for a word to define the lowest ethical
standing of a man who would be paid by one congregation and believe or
teach something contrary. Even Judas found a solution.
A heretic is someone who
chooses to CARRY AWAY something that belongs to another.
That includes the "church house" and the church famnily built by
others. You don't ever have to use STEALTH to teach the Word of
God.
-Plato
Athenian Laws [884a] Next
after cases of outrage we shall state
for cases of violence one
universally inclusive principle of law, to this
effect:--
No one shall carry or drive
off anything which belongs to others,
nor shall he use
any of his neighbor's goods unless he has gained the consent of the
owner;
for from such action proceed
all the evils above
mentioned--past, present and to come.
Of the rest, the most
grave are the licentious and outrageous acts of
the young; and outrages offend most gravely when
they are directed
against sacred things, and they are especially
grave when they are
directed against objects which are public as well as holy, or
partially
public, as being shared in by the members of a tribe or
other similar
community.
Second, and second in point of gravity, come offences against sacred objects and tombs that are private;
[885a] As
to temple-robbing, whether
done
by
open
violence or secretly..." No one who believes, as the laws prescribe, in the existence of the gods
has ever yet done an
impious deed
voluntarily, or uttered a lawless
word: he that acts so is in one or other of these three conditions of
mind—
either he does not believe in what I have said;
or,
secondly, he
believes that the gods exist, but have no care for men;
or, thirdly, he
believes that they are
easy to win over when bribed by offerings and
prayers
Cf.Plat. Rep. 364b ff.
For as it is, this and such as this is the account of them we hear from
those who are reputed the best of
poets,
orators,
seers,
priests, and
thousands upon thousands of others; and consequently most of us,
instead of seeking to avoid wrong-doing,
do the wrong and then try to
make it good
They call it Grace-Centered
When people impose or USE something offensive to the owners you are a
heretic or sectarian. When you impose music AND deliberately sow
discord you have done two things God says He HATES. When you force
people to split with their real and church family in order that a few
favorites have a place to blaspheme God it is hard to see how there can
be any redemption. Music at a "churchy" level with thousands of people
singing the same note does violence in two ways: First, you are
spreading "decibel posioning" and destroying the hearing of the young.
Second, you are enducing endorphines which is a morphine-like drug
which produces the effects of Fight, Flight and or sexual
stimulation. OSHA would shut down such "theaters for holy
entertainment" and put the noisey children in jail if they had the
nerve. God has nerve.
Both the words for singing and "psallo" which never means "musical
melody" both relate to making war, making unnatural sex, enchanting or
Sorcery. Singing beyond using "one mind and one mouth" to teach
"teach that which is written for our learning" is also exercising both
psychological and physical violence: it violates the REST and removal
of the LADEN BURDEN by Jesus.
Matt. 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of
women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptis
notwithstanding, he that is least
in the kingdom of heaven is greater
than he.
Matt. 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now
the
kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the VIOLENT
take
it
by
force
-Biazō , force one to do, force
the victims [to be favourable], 4. contend or argue
vehemently, “audō polin se mē b. tode” A.Th.1047.
b. nomous [laws] to do them violence, Th. 8.53; (We can be more successful if we change the BYLAWS)
biasamenos tauta panta having broken through all
these restraints, Lys.6.52
When your hireling says WE have decided that WE will add
MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS into your congregation and you need to get over it,
that same person would pick your pocket or hurt you to get your
property: THAT is the meaning of a heretic or sectarian.
In the confession of Rick Atchley:
-Lys.
6
51 For this man donned
a ceremonial robe, and in imitation of the rites he revealed the sacred
things to the uninitiated, a
nd spoke with his lips the forbidden words:
those deities whom we worship,
and to whom with our devotions and
purifications we sacrifice and pray, he mutilated.
And for such a deed
priestesses and priests stood up and cursed him, facing the west, and
shook out their purple vestments according to the ancient and
time-honored custom. He has admitted this action.
-Lys. 6 52 Moreover, transgressing the
law that
you made,
whereby he was debarred from the temples as a reprobate,
he
has
violated
all these restrictions and has entered into our city;
he
has sacrificed on the altars which were forbidden him,
and come
into
the
presence
of the sacred things on which he committed his
impiety;
he
has entered into the Eleusinium, and baptized his hands in the holy
water.
Any person who uses the Levites as his foundation, and then violates
the laws of the Levites by going into or close to any holy thing or
place IS WORTHY of spiritual death.
-Audaō , impf. 1. utter
sounds, speak, utter a cry,
4. au. agōna sing of a contest,
Pi.O.1.7.
Soph.
OT 392 Oedipus Tyrannus
Oedipus
[380] O wealth, and empire, and skill surpassing
skill in life's keen rivalries, how great is the envy in your keeping,
if for the sake of this office which the city has entrusted to me, a
gift unsought, [385] Creon the trustworthy,
Creon, my old friend, has
crept upon me by stealth, yearning to overthrow me,
and has
suborned
such a scheming juggler as this,
a tricky quack, who has eyes
only for
profit,
but is blind in his art! [390]
Agur-tēs , ou, o(, (ageirō) prop.
A. collector,
esp.
begging priest of
Cybele, “
Mētros a.”
AP6.218
(Al.); “
Gallois a.”
Babr.141.1:—
then,
2. vagabond ,
E.Rh.503,
715, cf.
Lysipp.6,
Clearch.5;
dolios a., of Tiresias,
S.OT388; “
a. kai manteis” Pl.R.364b.
Gallos ,
A. priest of
Cybele, Schwyzer 633.11 (Eresus,
ii/i B. C.),
Arr. Epict.2.20.17,
AP6.234 (
Eryc.),
220 (
Diosc.):—fem. form
Gallai Lyr.Adesp.121.
Come, tell me, where have you proved yourself a seer?
Why, when
the
watchful dogsong was here,
did you say nothing to free
the people?
Yet the riddle, at least, was not for the first comer to
read: there was need of a seer's help, [395] and you were discovered
not to have this art, either from birds, or known from some god. But
rather I, Oedipus the ignorant, stopped her, having attained the answer
through my wit alone, untaught by birds. who wove dark
I don't believe that there is any historical data to disprove the
universally understood persona: All religious musicians who sang and
played were Drunk, perverted or "just having fun." Dogs were NOT
allowed in the assembly according to Paul in Philippians 2: dogs were
old style praise singers who instead of worshiping were seeking out
partners like
dogs:
Kuon
of the “Bakkhai, Lussas k.” E.Ba.97 Pan
is the kuōn of Cybele, Pi.Fr.96:
3. of the Cynics, “areskei toutois kunōn metamphiennusthai bion”
of the “Bakkhai, Lussas k.” E.Ba.977 (lyr.)
Rhapsōd-os , o(,
A. reciter of
Epic poems, sts. applied to the
bard who recited his own poem,
as to Hesiod,
Nicocl. ap. Sch.
Pi.N.2.2 (v.
infr.); but usu.,
professional reciters, esp.
of the poems
of Homer,
Hdt.5.67,
Pl.Ion 530c,
etc.: also
rh. kuōn, ironically, of the Sphinx who
chanted
her riddle,
S.OT391. (Prob.
from
rhaptō, aoidē;
Hes.Fr.
265 speaks of himself and Homer as
en nearois humnois rhapsantes aoidēn, and
Pi.N.2.2 calls
Epic poets
rhaptōn epeōn aoidoi: not from
rhabdos (cf. “
rhabdos”
1.6) as if
rhabdōdos (
Eust.6.24,
rhabdōdia ib.
16).)
Pind.
O.
1
Water is best, and gold, like a blazing fire in the
night, stands out
supreme of all lordly wealth. But if, my heart, you wish to sing of
contests, [5] look no further for any star warmer than the sun, shining
by day through the lonely sky, and let us not proclaim any contest
greater than Olympia.
From
there
glorious song enfolds the wisdom of poets, so that
they loudly sing [10] the son of Cronus, when they arrive at
the rich and blessed hearth of Hieron,
who wields the scepter of law in Sicily
of many flocks, reaping every excellence at its peak, and is glorified
[15] by the choicest music, which we men often play around his
hospitable table. Come, take the Dorian lyre down from its peg, if the
splendor of Pisa
and of Pherenicus placed your mind under the influence of sweetest
thoughts,
The Greek word in question here is biastai
(the plural form of biastes), which a good many
versions translate: "violent men." This is the word that appears in
Matt. 11:12 -- "violent men take it by force." The verb
form of this word, which appears in both Matt. 11:12 and Luke 16:16, is
biazo. "The kingdom of heaven suffers
violence" [Matt. 11:12]. "Every man entereth violently
into it" [Luke 16:16, ASV].
A HERETIC OR SECTARIAN CONFISCATES SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT BELONG TO HIM.
There is nothing more violent than to define as SECTARIAN those
who will not pretend
to worship God by the use of musical instruments which is defined as
"machines for doing hard work". They know of no church which has
conspired and used the Atchley-Maneuver to steal the church house of an
instrumental group.
A Sectarian always uses music or
enchantment to
seduce the
pants off the widows and owners.
This is what Paul outlawed as self-pleasure in Romans 15 which includes all of the performing or hypocritic arts and crafts.
-Rapio To carry off by force; to seize,
rob, ravish; to plunder, ravage, lay
waste, take by assault, carry by force, Ravish or
rape, to live by robbery, 1. To carry along or away
with passion, to transport, ravish, captivate;
and with a designation of the limit, to carry or hurry away,
to attract strongly to any thing (usually in a bad
sense): Poet.: “Nasonis carmina rapti,”
-Carmen , . a tune, song;
poem, verse; an oracular response, a prophecy; a form
of incantation (cf.: cano, cantus, and canto).
I. In gen., a tune,
song, air, lay, strain, note,
sound, both vocal and instrumental
“carmine vocali clarus citharāque Philammon,” Ov. M. 11, 317; cf
Ov. Met. 11.266
“When her mature womb had completed time
Autolycus [Cain "from a musical note"] was born, a crafty son,
who certainly inherited the skill
of wingfoot Mereury, his artful sire,
notorious now; for every kind of theft.
In fact, Autolycus with Mercury's craft,
loved to make white of black, and black of white.
But Phoebus' [Apollo, Abadon, Apollyon] child, for Chione bore twins,
was named Philammon, like his sire, well known.
To all men for the beauty of his song.
And famous for his handling of the lyre.
Now whyle the Thracian Poet [Origin of Threskia or musical worship]
with this song delyghts the mynds
Of savage beastes,
and drawes both stones and trees ageynst their kynds,
Ov. Met. 11.1
At Orphyes singing mouth. The Lawnce armd round about with leaves,
per-cŭtĭo 1.
To smite, strike, visit with calamity of any kind (class.):
b.
To strike, play a musical instrument (poet.): “lyram,” Ov. Am. 3, 12, 40; Val. Fl. 5, 100.—
2.
To strike, shock, make an impression upon, affect deeply, move, astound
Did hit him, and without a wound a marke behynd it leaves.
' Another threw a stone at him, which vanquisht with his sweete
And most melodius harmonye, fell humbly at his feete
As sorye for the furious act it purposed. But rash
And heady ryot out of frame all reason now did dash,
And frantik outrage reigned. Yit had the sweetenesse of his song
Appeasd all weapons, saving
that the noyse now growing strong
With blowing shalmes, and beating drummes,
and bedlem howling out,
And clapping hands on every syde by Bacchus drunken rout,
Did drowne the sownd of Orphyes harp. Then first of all stones were
Made ruddy with the prophets blood, and could not give him eare.
The Church is built or educated on the foundation of the PROPHETS
and APOSTLES: modern musical sectarians fufil the root meaning of
music: to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter.
THE KINGDOM OF GOD DOES NOT COME TO RELIGIOUS OBSERVATIONS OR WORSHIP SERVICES.
Lk 17:20
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God
should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not
with observation:
The
Kingdom of God is the body or Church of Christ: while the kingdom has
been established it does not automatically COME to your congregation
unless you let Jesus be King and Priest. The kingdom of God is
near us when the King of the kingdom is near us: He is near us when the
elders "teach that which has been taught." That lets the King do all of
the speaking. The kingdom comes when Christ's Will is done on Earth.
Observātĭo ,
The Kingdom is not: A. An office, duty, service (eccl. Lat.): “Dei sui et expiationis,” Vulg. 2 Esdr. 12, 44: “in observationibus sicut fas est,” id. 1 Macc. 12, 11.—
1 Macc 12:11 - We therefore
remember you constantly on every occasion, both in our feasts and on
other appropriate days, at the sacrifices which we offer and in our
prayers, as it is right and proper to remember brethren.
They performed the religious observations because they were commanded
to do so: there was no virtue in doing what they were commanded to do
with a penalty attached if they did not.
Jesus commanded us to pray in our private places. He commanded that YOUR hand never know what MY hand gives in ALMS (the only giving authorized.
He repudiated the men who made an OVSERVATION out of their prayer or alms.
“Observationi operam dare,” Plaut. Mil. 2, 6, 5: “siderum,” Cic. Div. 1, 1,
Opĕra , A.
Care, attention, exertion bestowed on any thing:
The Kingdom is not: “alicui,” to attend to one, listen to him, Plaut. Trin. 4, 2, 52: “sermoni,” Cic. Leg. 2, 1, 4:
Listening to a sermon is NOT an act of worship: preaching is
not an act of worship: there is no role and no dole for preaching other
than as commanded by Christ in the wilderness and changed in our own
latter days by men TASKED to carry out a mission they do not
comprehend.,
2Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
The Kingdom is not: Opĕrātĭo A. A religious performance, service, or solemnity, a bringing of offerings: operationes denicales, offerings
"Lying wonders" specificially speak of religious observations where the dominant leaders claim that they are doing God's will.
I REMEMBER SIGNS AT CHURCH WHICH READ: Come to Learn, Leave to Serve.
JESUS CALLED THE SCRIBES AND PHRAISEES, HYPOCRITES.
In the Ezekiel 33 example of "mouth" or external worship Jesus
identified the hypocrites as preachers, singers and instrument
players. Musical Instruments always toldGod to "Shut your face."
AND TO BOAST OF IT??
Paul warned us not to do SELF pleasure: the word is the same as a
HERETIC. In the Greek sacrificial system the PARASITE made the lambs dumb before the slaughter and the
HERETIC was the priest who lifted them up to cut
their throats.
In both Greek and Latin the method was what Jesus identified as the
hypocrites: preachers, singers and instrument players quotint
Ezekiel33. This included "creation of mental excitement" which is
the Laded Burden Jesus died to rid the world of along with the burden
laders: burdens are types of songs wich "create spiritual anxiety
through religious rituals.
That's what a Levite would do by the command of God. Rick says that by LEAVING the Church of Christ they are not leaving the
kingdom. However, Jesus MARKED religion by saying that the Kingdom of Christ (or Christ Himself as sole Teacher) comes NOT with
Religious OBSERVATIONS:
No preaching, telling preacher tales, singing, playing instruments or
ANYTHING which is not INSIDE the Spirit as God's new Holy Place where
any Levite singer or instrumennt player would be executed.
How can Jesus say that worship is IN THE SPIRIT (place) and not in
houses (places) and devoted to the Truth and hireling-preacherlings
flowing out of captured "christian" colleges say just the opposite.
How can Jesus say that the kingdom (Jesus the King) will never come
near "religious observations" especially "lying wonders" which are
religious services CLAIMING that they are led by God.
Blasphemy is claiming that God commanded something when Christ
in the prophets says that God DID NOT command any such thing.
Blasphemy sticks to you closer than a "worship leaderling."
The Kingdom of God comes NOT with (religious) observations.
Therefore, God sends strong delusions to those who tamper with His Word
(songs or sermons, dance or drama) and the produce LYING WONDERS which
are any of the performing arts which BLEED AWAY all of the attention
due to God and His Word.
- The New credo is that God commanded instrumental praise and WE will not be disobedient.
A small number of preachers have been duped
into a fatal fall from
grace: flattery will get you anything! They are usually agents or under
the influence of the NACC. These men are devoid of spiritual truth but
prophecy is that all but the elect or "ekklesia" or Church will be led
astray: why would people spend the widow's food money to vagabond sall
over the nation lusting to hear a simple-simon speech about simple
simon?
- If God did NOT command
the use of Musical Instruments (to make noise) even when He abandoned
them to worship the starry host BECAUSE of musical idolatry--
- Then Jeremiah 23 by the Spirit OF Christ (the only Spirit) says that you have blasphemed The Holy Spirit.
- The only Holy Spirit Comforter is Jesus Christ and He will not tell you to disobey the Word.
- Jacob warned us NOT to attend the assemblies of Levi nor to join in covenant with them. They would use both instruments as weapons and musical. He promised that Messiah would come out of Judah
Your preacher has repudiated Jesus Christ if he tells you to follow the pattern of the Levites.
- When Israel rose up in musical idolatry of the Egyptian (etal) trinity involving the holocaustum of Rick's proof text, they rose up in surgo against God Who turned them over to worship the starry host: He gave the Law of Moses and sentenced them to return to Babylon. To that end "He gave them kings in His anger" when the "elders" abandoned God.
- The Levitess (modern musical worship teams) jumped at the chance to murder 3,000 of their "members." In the modern sense if you EXCLUDE
3,000 of the "owners" when they see the MARK of musical performers,
that's just fine. Paul's version in Romans 1 is that they fell into
sexual and gender confused practices. There is no other history marking
the PERSONA of religious performers. People flee from the persona when they do not fully understand that according to the Vineyard or New Wineskins they are being aroused into a sexual-like climactic experience--just before "giving of substance."
Because the Levites had proven their value as EXECUTIONERS, Moses made them His Praetorian Guard. However, they lost their inheritance and were supported by fleecing the poor of tithes and offerings as God warned through Samuel.
Those who have been dedicated to perform at a temple are declared
anathema. That means that they have lost their inheritance, cannot
be redeemed and MUST BE bured. Christ in Isaiah 30 says that
"hell" was prepared for the enemies of God--those who went in musical
processions to Jerusalem--and the marks in sight and sound will be wind,
string and percussion instruments.
They stood near the Holy Places to murder anyone who came too close: like "guardians of the podium."
As a "Makes Works Ministry" when no longer needed to make war, the musical role was ADDED by David and there is no other authority. They soothsayed
to the accompany of musical instruments. Instruments always identify
people who would use spiritual deception. In Revelation 18 they
were "lusted after fruits [same as in Amos] as SORCERERS. Your
team is performing Sorcery with instrumental accompaniment.
Congratulations you have facilitated something of Biblical proportions.
1Chronicles 25:1 David, [king] together with the commanders of the army, set apart some of the sons of Asaph, Heman and Jeduthun for the ministry of prophesying, accompanied by harps, lyres and cymbals. Here is the list of the men who performed this service:
These were not writing prophets marked by their repudiation of the
Civil-Military-Clergy as robbers and parasites. Pseudo-prophets may be
the world's OLDEST profession who could influence the gods as praise
singers.
Prŏphēta and prŏphētes I.
a foreteller, soothsayer, prophet (post-class.: sacerdotes Aegyptiorum, quos prophetas vocant,” Macr. S. 7, 13, 9: “Aegyptius, propheta primarius,” oraculorumque interpretes,”
prŏphētīa , II.
A body of prophets or singers, Vulg. 1 Par. 15, 27
Orācŭlum
Musical Worship Teams claim to stand in the holy place and lead you into the presence of God.
B.
A place where oracular responses were given, an oracle: “illud oraculum Delphis tam celebre,”
This was the "worship center" of Apollo, Abaddon or Apollyon and the Pythian priestess: His
musical worship team were the "Muses" known as dirty adulterers: they
are called sorcers in Revelation 18.
2.
Esp. (eccl. Lat.), the mercy-seat, the place in the tabernacle in which
the presence of God was manifest
C. An oracular saying, oracle pronounced by a man. OF DELPHI AND APOLLO.
No Levite could "stand in the holy place" without getting executed
CHRIST Spoke through the writing Prophets and HE expounded these prophecies so that You cannot further expound them.
1Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God;
if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth:
that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom
be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Greek: Mantis
diviner, seer, prophet Pythian priestess, 3. Adj., toude manteôs chorou [round dance] of this prophetic band, dub. in
S.Fr.113. II. a kind of
grasshopper, the praying
mantis, Mantis religiosa, obscure speech.
Mantikê,Mania
[mainomai] ) madness, sphodra hêdonê katechousa
II. enthusiasm, inspired
frenzy, m. Dionusou para
E.Ba.305 ; apo
Mousôn katokôchê
OPPOSITE
sôphrosunê anthrôpinê meaning having control over the sensual
desires,
temperate,
self-controlled, moderate, chaste, sober,
Logos. The ACT of
speaking is logik-os ,
ê, on, ( [logos]
) the organs
of speech
A. of or for speaking or speech,
logikê, hê, speech,
OPPOSITE to
mousikê
The
phrase: Mousôn
katokôchê Mousa I. the Muse, in pl. the Muses, goddesses of song,
music, poetry, dancing, the drama, and all fine arts II. mousa, as
appellat., music,
song, Pind.,
Trag.:--also eloquence, Eur.:--in pl. arts, accomplishments, Ar., Plat.
PHRASE: Aegyptius, propheta primarius
1. Aegyptius,
2. Prophetai
3. primariusI. one of the first, of the first rank, chief, principal, excellent, remarkable,
primarius parasitus, Their SERVICE
was to serve the priests to "make the lambs dumb before the slaughter."
The word connects to the Abbadon or Apollyon in the book of
Revelation.
Părăsītus , i, m., = parasitos, parasitus Phoebi, a player, actor, lit. one who eats with another; hence, II.
In partic., in a bad sense, one who, by flattery and buffoonery, manages to live at another's expense, a sponger, toad-eater, parasite (syn. scurra): tutelar deity of parasites was Hercules [father of homosexual worship]
Parasi_t-os , ho, A.
one who eats at the table of another, and repays him with flattery and buffoonery, parasite,
II.
of priests who had their meals at the public expense,
Any preacher who violates the direct command to "teach that which has
been taught" or in Romans 15 "that which is written for our learning is a
DEFACTO PARASITE.
IN the early church: Prophēt-eia , hē, III.
in NT, gift of expounding scripture, or of speaking and preaching, under the influence of the Holy Spirit (cf. prophētēs), Ep.Rom.12.6, 1 Ep.Cor.12.10, 1 Ep.Ti.1.18, 4.14, al.
A preacher "prophesies" under the guidance of the Holy Spirit (Christ)
when he reads that which is written and can say "thus saith the
Lord." Early Reformation groups in England met in secret and the
reading and meditating on the Word was called "prophesying meetings"
-
The next day an
evil spirit from God
came forcefully upon Saul. He was prophesying in his house, while David was
playing the harp, as he usually did. Saul had a spear in his hand 1
Sam 18:10
"He prophesied in the midst of
the house. He was beside
himself; made prayers,
supplications, and incoherent imprecations: 'God preserve my life,' 'Destroy my enemies,' or
such like prayers, might frequently escape from him in his agitated state. The Arabic intimates that he was
actually possessed by an
evil spirit, and that
through it he uttered a sort of demoniacal predictions." (Clark, 1 Sam 18, p. 270).
"In ancient times, says Justin,
kings used a spear instead of a diadem: And as spears were the
emblems of supreme power, hence they were reputed as attributes of the
Divinity, and were
worshipped as representatives of the gods." (Adam Clark, 1 Sam. 18, p. 270)
- The DIRECT COMMAND used by these modern worshipers of the STARS is 2 Chronicles 29. The Levites stood in RANKS
under the king and commanders of the army when the normal "plague
stopping" sacrifiices were made. It was Hezekiah's idea to try to
appease Israel as the "instrumental" sect. Only when the
- goats were "Holocausted"
did the Levites make a great noise never called music. This was
to make sure that no extraneous sounds reached the ears of the priests
who was and is the "authorized god handler. The were not musical worship ministers they were Soothsayers with Instrumental accompaniment.
A. Christ in Isaiah defines the destiny of the harps and buried alive harpists:
Isaiah 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols:
the worm is spread under thee, and the worms [maggots] cover thee.
Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the
morning!
how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the
nations!
Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God:
I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isaiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
B. Christ in Isaiah defines FOR WHOM "hell" was prepared. Because the Jews went in musical procession to Jerusalem to HOLOCAUST infants,
the trick would be turned and the MARKS in sight and sound of God
driving His enemies into hell would be the Wind, String and Percussion
instruments. See Isa 30LXX
1). According to Christ in Ezekiel 28 these
instruments came when Lucifer was "cast as profane" out of heaven into
the garden of Eden midst the stones of fire.
2). The "song" of the prostitute involves the harp Isaiah 23:16
C. The speakers, singers, instrument players in Revelation 18 are called Sorcerers who will be cast alive into the lake of fire.
As the music ceased when the HOLOCAUST was finished
and the performers are silenced, in Revelation 18 there are no more
instruments. The musical sounds are EXCISED from the body at the first
noisy blast, and the "lampstands" of the seven spirits of Christ go
into exile exactly as when Solomon dedicated the temple.
Revelation 18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters,
shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, [Theater builders-stage managers]
of whatsoever
craft he be,
shall be found any more in thee;
and the sound of a
millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all
in thee;
and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be
heard no more at all in thee:
[The nymphs engaged in Hiros Gamos or holy sex marriage in paganism]
for thy merchants were the great men of the earth;
for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets,
and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
WHO KILLED THE PROPHETS?
Matthew 23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
[In Ezekiel 33: speakers, singers and instruments. THE meaning of hypocrites]
because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
Matthew 23:30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers,
we
would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
Matthew 23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves,
that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
CHRIST IN EZEKIEL 33 NAMES THE HYPOCRITES AS PREACHERS, SINGERS, INSTRUMENT PLAYERS
Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
THE BEAST
Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
[The baptism of WIND and FIRE was promised to the viper race: they will be heaped up and burned]
Matthew 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
Thērion , to (in form Dim. of thēr),
A.
wild animal, esp. of such as are hunted, mala gar mega thērion ēen, of a stag, Od.10.171, 180 (never in Il.); in Trag. only in Satyric drama,
III.
as a term of reproach, beast, creature, , cf. Eq.273; “kolaki, deinō thēriō” Pl.Phdr.240b;
Goēs , ētos, ho,
A.
sorcerer, wizard epōdos Ludias apo khthonos” E.Ba.234
2.
juggler, cheat, “deinos g. kai pharmakeus kai sophistēs” Pl.Smp.203d; “deinon kai g. kai sophistēn . . onomazōn” D.18.276; “apistos g. ponēros” Id.19.109; “magos kai g
Sophis-tēs , ou, ho,
A.
master of one's craft, adept, expert, of diviners, with modal words added, “hoi s. tōn hierōn melōn” [MELODY IN THE HOLY PLACES]
3.
later of the
rhētores, Professors of Rhetoric, and prose writers of the Empire, such as Philostratus and Libanius, Suid.; “Apollōnidē sophistē” [Abaddon, Apollyon]
mousikê
aei
ti kainon thêrion tiktei
A. Mousikos, musical,
agônes m. kai gumnikoi choroi te kai agônes ta mousika music,
II. of persons, skilled in music, musical,
X.l.c., etc.; poiêtikoi kai m. andres Pl.Lg.802b ; kuknos [minstrel] kai
alla zôia; peri aulous - professional musicians, mousikos kai melôn poêtês, use with
singing, skilled in speaking before a mob. Melody,
Jesus cast out the musical minstrels "like dung."
B. aei always
C. kainos , esp.
of new dramas, the representation of the new tragedies,
(Aphrodisias dedicated to Aphrodite (ZOE); comedy, sexual love,
pleasure, a woman's form of oath, Aster or Venus
or ZOE.
Therion
D. Tikto mostly of
the
mother
E. of Rhea one of
the zoogonic or vivific principles
-
There is nocommand for group singing with instrumental accompaniment: what you have been tricked into is called
"Soothsaying with instrumental accompaniment."
- The speakers, singers, instrument players and craftsmen or
techne "theater builders and stage managers" including the grinders or
prostitutes making a "piping" sound to solicit, are called SORCERERS.
Therefore, they have tricked you into:
"SORCERY with Instrumental accompaniment."
- Now, I hope that as a Boiled Frog you have a happy day!
If you followed these agents and believe that when the Levites made a
great, crashing noise while burning the goats for Israel, and which
Christ says God DID NOT COMMAND, you are involved with "something of Biblical proportions."
You need to know (now that it's too late) that the
Levites stood in
military ranks to
GUARD the horrors of not-commanded animal sacrifices
from the godly civillians. If you insisted on attending their
"instrumental music service" they are commanded by God through Moses to
EXECUTE you.
The death of a spirit is a terrible thing to baste.
The Levites as Military Guards and chief executioners.
http://www.piney.com/Instrumental.Music.Worship.Old.Testament.html
The Church is built on
the foundation of the Prophets and Apostles. I have commented on a
paper by "Anon" to prove that no one was so uninformed that they could
have accidentially missed the fork in the roat at Mount Sinai. I know of
no preacher or scholar who understands what happened: "Doctors of the
law take away the key to knowledge." Jesus called these same Scibes and
Pharisees, hypocrites. In the Ezekiel 33 example He names speakers,
singers and instrument players who have no role in an Ekklesia of
Christ. It's True: Jesus never said "thou shall not be a hypocrite."
8.09.11 Review of K.C.Moser who is the foundation of the neo-trinitarians and Anti-Baptism direct commands
Jay Guin is the promoter of the
Progressive Church of Christ:
a new anti-everything sectarian division. John defined this new sect in
Revelation 17 and called all of the agents of the Mother Goddess
sorcerers: preachers without portfolio, singers and instrument players
(Rev. 18). As Christ did in Isaiah 30 John consignes them to be (been)
cast alive into the lake of fire.
Saying that Christ--THE Holy Spirit--said something He did not say or command is defined as blaspheming the Holy Spirit.
Review of Truitt Adair's review of Rick Atchley.
Preachers are shooting blanks and keeping their career path safe as
long as they agree that Amos (by the Spirit of Christ) condemned only
their "attitude." And as long as they say that God commanded anything
in the cursed king, kingdom, temple, sacrificial system at which they
made exorcism noises never called music. The church is built upon the
Prophets and Apostles all who radically condemn the the
Civil-Military-Clergy complex as robbers, parasites and hypocrites
(defined as speakers, singer and instrument players)
7.12.11
Bob Williams in the Origins of Christian Worship
teaches (along with most preachers) that the Christian Worship was
derived from the Jews which until its destruction was at the temple;
"After its
construction by Solomon, the temple in Jerusalem became the prominent
focus of Jewish worship. It appears that the emphasis of worship in the
temple was primarily on sacrificial offerings and praise to God through
music.
All of the sowing of discord in the modern church is founded on
total ignorance of the story of the Monarchy: God turned them over to
worship the starry host. Why do YOU think so many are working so
legalisticall hard to conform the church to the Monarchy
.
If you can convince people that the Pharisees removed instrumental
music from the synagogue then if you are not a pharisee you should
maybe aqccept instruments.
Jay will not stand up and accept any comment which does not endorse him. I just posted and it will go away:
STRONG DELUSIONS AND LYING WONDERS EXACTLY DEFINE PERFORMANCE IN A RELIGIOUS SERVICE.
Lying
Wonders: -Teratourg-eô,
A.
WORK wonders, pseudôsti
Sch.Pi.I.7(6).13.
Lying is -Pseudes 2. fiction (opposite logos, historic
- Muthos
2. fiction
(Opposite logos, historic
truth)
logos , o(, verbal noun of lego; (B), with senses
corresponding to lego (B) II and III (on the
various senses
of the word v. Opposite Pathos or peacher's tales
Opposite epago; , 2.
bringing in
to one's aid, introduction, 4. allurement, enticement
b. incantation, spell, leading away into
captivity.
Aristot.
Rh.
3.6.3 [3] Use metaphors and epithets by way of
illustration, taking care, however, to avoid what is too poetical.
Aristot. Rh.
3.6.7 Poets
also make use of this in inventing
words, as a
melody
"without strings" or "without the lyre"; for they employ epithets
from negations,
a course which is approved in proportional metaphors, as for instance, to say that
tNhe sound of the trumpet is a melody
without the lyre.
-[3. 8. 1 The form
of diction should
be neither metrical nor without
rhythm. If
it is metrical, it lacks
persuasiveness,
for it appears
artificial, and at
the same time it distracts
the
hearer's
attention,
since it sets him on
the watch for the recurrence of such and such
a cadence.
-Pindar, Pythian, Odes 4:[216] Aphrodite [ZOE] of Cyprus
brought the maddening bird to men for the first time, and she taught
the son of Aeson skill
in prayerful
incantations,
so that he could rob
Medea of reverence for her
parents. and a longing for Greece
would lash her, her mind on fire, with the whip of Persuasion.
A WORK OR WONDER
WOULD BE TO PERFORM ANY RITUAL CLAIMING THAT IT IS DOING A DIVINE WORK
OR WORSHIP.
A heretic is someone who
chooses to CARRY AWAY something that belongs to another.
-Plato
Athenian Laws [884a] Next
after cases of outrage we shall state
for cases of violence one
universally inclusive principle of law, to this
effect:--
No one shall carry or drive
off anything which belongs to others,
nor shall he use
any of his neighbor's goods unless he has gained the consent of the
owner;
for from such action proceed
all the evils above
mentioned--past, present and to come.
Of the rest, the most
grave are the licentious and outrageous acts of
the young; and outrages offend most gravely when
they are directed
against sacred things, and they are especially
grave when they are
directed against objects which are public as well as holy, or
partially
public, as being shared in by the members of a tribe or
other similar
community.
[885a] As
to temple-robbing, whether
done
by
open
violence or secretly...
The MARK or PROOF is that people will twist all of Scripture and
church history in order to wrestle away a widow's church house, church
family and 'investment' with the "lord." Shame, Shame, Shame.
FREE, UNCENSORED DISCUSSION OF THIS AND OTHER HOSTILE SITES.
When Ahaz took the sacrifices and noise (never
music) outside of Jerusalem he violated God's law which quarantined the
horrors behind closed doors . If you become a Levite singer outside of
the Temple in Jerusalem the PATTERN is that God will send a plague upon
you.
7.04.11 Collection of proof of the relationship to the ONE GOD the Father in Heaven and Jesus of Nazareth whom God made to be both Lord and Christ. John identifies this two fold fact and defines as antichrist those who deny it.
THIS IS THE DIRECT COMMAND: Only those already strongly delusioned could fail to understand that SING or make music is antithetical to PREACH.
2Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season,
out of season; reprove, rebuke,
kērussō , 2.make proclamation as a herald, laon kērussontes ageirontōn let them convene the people by voice of herald,
III. c. acc. rei, proclaim, announce, 2. declare, tell, tout' ekērukhthē polei this news was spread in .
2. to proclaim or command publicly, Lat. indicere,
in-dĭco , to show, declare, disclose, make known, reveal, to give information, inform, ĕpistŭla a written communication, a letter, epistle (cf.: “litterae, codicilli):
A "preacher" is a herald: the herald NEVER makes up or changes the
proclamation. The herald does not "sing" the message from the King to
the field commander.
Matthew 21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures,
The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of
the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
Mark 12:26 And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?
Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city t
hem that preach him,
being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
Colossians 4:16 And when this epistle is read among you,
cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans;
and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea.
1Thessalonians 5:27 I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read unto
all the holy brethren.
Logos, verbal noun of lego
Opposite kata pathos
Opposite music, poetry or rhetoric
Opposite human reasoning
Opposite Epagoge bringint in to one's aid, introduction
Alurement, enticement, incantation, spell
Opposite Pathos A.
that which happens to a person or thing, incident, accident,
where this incident took place, unfortunate accident,
2.
what one has experienced, good or bad, experience
II.
of the soul, emotion, passion (“legō de pathē . . holōs hois hepetai hēdonē ē lupē” Arist.EN1105b21), “sophiē psukhēn pathōn aphaireitai”
exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;
but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers,
having itching ears; [eager for combat, pleasure, to be wanton]
Sound is opposite to peri-sta^sis crowds standing round the house,
3.
outward pomp and circumstance, hē tou biou p. Plb.3.98.2, cf. 31.26.3 ; truphē kai p. Antig.Car. ap. Ath.12.547f; huparkhōn en megalē p “paison, truphēson, zēson: apothanein se dei
tru^phaō A.
live softly, luxuriously, fare sumptuously
Paison, truphêson, zêson
Paison paizô 4.
play on a musical instrument, h.Ap.206: c. acc., “Pan ho kalamophthogga paizōn” Ar.Ra.230; dance and sing, Pi. O.1.16.
5.
play amorously, “
pros allēlous”
X.Smp.9.2; “
meta tinos”
LXX Ge.26.8; of mares,
Arist.HA572a30.
ZOE is Lucifer or Eve the daughter of the Sun. She also is called the
"beast, the mother of gods and men and the FEMALE instructing principle.
zaō I.
to live,
Hom., etc.;
elegkhiste [cowardly] zōontōn vilest
of living men,
Od.;
zōein kai horan phaos ēelioio Il.;
rheia zōontes living at
ease, of the
gods,
hēlios II.
as pr. n., Helios, the sun-god, Od.8.271, etc.; nē ton Hē. Men.Sam. 108; hupo Dia Gēn Hēlion, in manumission-formula, POxy.48.6, 49.8 (i A.D.), IG9(1).412（Aetolia), IPE2.54.10(iii A.D.); [“Hēlios doulous eleutherous poiei” Artem.2.36; identified with Apollo,
2.
Hēliou astēr, of the planet Saturn, v.l. in Pl.Epin.987c, cf. D.S.2.30,
2.
part. truphōn as Adj., effeminate, luxurious,
“hoi truphōntes” spoiled pets, Id.Men.76b; en tais ekklēsiais [church] t. kai kolakeuesthai,
See 2 Peter 2 proof of instrumental music as the corruption.
2
Peter 2:13 And shall receive
the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day
time. Spots they are
and blemishes, sporting themselves with their
own deceivings while they
feast with you;
Musicians and actors are always called parasites.
Entrupo
(g1792)
en-troo-fah'-o; from 1722 and
5171; to revel in: - sporting selves.
Epithum-êtês , oi, ho,
A. one who longs for or desires, ergôn
Hdt.7.6 ; [dogmatôn] sophias, Pl.R.475b, etc.; phusei polemou e. 1 Ep.Cor.10.6
2. . abs., lover, follower, X.Mem.1.2.60.
b. . one who lusts, LXX Nu.11.34.
HERE IS PROOF THAT YOU WILL NOT ENDURE SOUND DOCTRINE:
2Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth,
and
shall be turned unto fables.
FABLES TO FOOL: Fābŭla , ae, f. fari,
B. Of particular kinds of poetry.
1. Most freq., a dramatic poem, drama, play (syn.: “ludus, cantus, actio, etc.): in full, fabula scaenica,” Amm. 28, 1, 4; “or, theatralis,” id. 14, 6, 20: “fabula ad actum scenarum composita,”fabulam, quae versatur in tragoediis atque carminibus non a veritate modo
FABLES TO FOOL: Cantus , ūs, m. id., I.
the production of melodious sound, a musical utterance or expression, either with voice or instrument; hence, song, singing, playing,
1.
With the voice, a singing, song; in full, cantus vocum, Cic. Rosc. Am. 46, 134: “fit etiam saepe vocum gravitate et cantibus ut pellantur animi, etc.,
2.
With instruments, a playing, music: “citharae,” “horribili stridebat tibia cantu,” Cat. 64, 264: “querulae tibiae, “lyrae,” Plin. 34, 8, 19, § 72: “tibicine
2Timothy 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions,
do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
Humn-eō , Ep.
humneiō Hes.Op.2; Ep.3pl.
II. Tell over and over again, harp upon, repeat, recite,;
humnousi ;
ton nomon humnein recite the form of the law, Id.Lg.871a:
6.04.11
The Fire That Consumes
The Fire starter or Musical Minister(ess) for Apollo, Abaddon,
Apollyon: "Hell" was just outside of Jerusalem: maybe coming to a
church near you. Parables are to fool the foolish.
Testimony Old:
oneinjesus by Jay Guin defends the
teachings of Al Maxey, Cecil Hook, Dallas Burdette, Edward Fudge, John
Mark Hicks, Patrick Mead, Stoned-Campbell and Wineskins. These are the
ones I have reviewed and they represent the latest crop of theologians.
The motive is some kind of spooky agenda to denounce the Church of
Christ which feeds them with the assertion that most of the false
teachings are the product--of one major NACC author--of a southern,
ignorant, rednecked mentality: all of the teachings are based on a
legalistic, sectarian patternism. They even CLAIM that the Church
invented the false teaching of TEACHING WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES AND NOT
TEACHING WHAT THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH. Other products of
this "decadent and deleterious" (rotten and destructive for we non
Phds) includes teaching what Jesus commanded: that baptism is FOR or IN
ORDER to the remission of sins.
5.02.11 See Danny Dodd and Royce Ogle on Legalism
John T. Willis 2. "Sing" is vocal; "make melody" is instrumental. Psalms 33:2-3;
144:9; 149:1, 3 make this crystal clear. Amos 5:23 further verifies
this reality.
People forget that God turned Israel over to worship the starry host
because of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai. The Levites were under the
KING and the COMMANDERS of the army: they made war and not worship. We
will examine these passages in context.
Jay Guin: Jesus is our Counselor, and the Spirit is another Counselor. The Greek
word translated Counselor is the same word used for a defense attorney.
It is literally “one who stands beside” to give comfort or counsel.
Some translations call the Spirit the “Comforter.” And the word refers
to a person, not a book. And Jesus himself speaks of sending “him,” not
“it.”
Not even the highest level of scholarship cares enough to define words
and look at parallel passages. This is why about half of churches of
Christ are polytheistic and believe in three God people and according
to
John Mark Hicks "each with their own center of consciousness." The
fact is there is ONE GOD in heaven and Jesus of Nazareth whom God MADE
TO BE BOTH Lord and Christ to fulfill the prophecies by the Spirit OF
Christ. Jesus of nazareth died, was resurrected and metamorphosed or
changed into a Holy (wholly) Spirit state: this is the same as our post
resurrected state. Jesus returned to the Father, received the Holy
Spirit or HIS new state and HE shed forth what was seen and heard in
the upper room. The name of the "another" Comforter says the same John
in Jesus Christ the Righteous. John also said that if you do not
believe this two-fold relationship you are an anti-Christ. I am looking
at Jay's proof texts as time allows in his
The Holy Spirit and Revolutionary Grace
Allos 3.
allos kai allos, one or two; allo kai allo one thing after another, id=Xen.
II.
rarely like alloios, of other sort, different, Il.: hence 2.
sometimes like a comp., c. gen., alla tōn dikaiōn other than just,
Rarely: alloios , a, on, (allos) A.
of another sort or kind, different,
Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ;
that ye should be married to another, (different)
even to him who is raised from the dead,
that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Heteros here is not another numerically but "in another or a different way, changed, altered."
1Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:
for the trumpet shall sound,
and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,
and we shall be changed.
236. allasso, al-las´-so; from 243; to make different: — change.
allassō , later Att. allanto-ttō Pl.Prm.139a: impf.
II. a. ti tinos give in exchange, barter one thing for another,
2.
take a new position, i.e. go to a place, “a.Haida thalamous” E.Hec.483; “polin ek poleōs” Pl.Plt.289e.
243. allos, al´-los; a primary word; “else,” i.e. different (in many
applications): — more, one (another), (an-, some an-)other(-s, -wise).
9
nun de gnontes theon, mallon de
gnōsthentes hupo theou, pōs epistrephete palin epi ta
asthenē kai ptōkha stoikheia, hois palin anōthen douleusai thelete;
Galatians 4:8 Howbeit then, when ye knew not God,
ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
Galatians 4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God,
how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements,
whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
Galatians 4:10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
Galatians 4:11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
Philippians 3:21 Who shall change our vile [slave] body,
that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body,
according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Metaskhēma^t-izō , A.
change the form of a person or thing, Pl.Lg. 903e,
summorph-os ,
on,
A.
of the same shape as,
tini Nic.Th.321, cf.
Ep.Phil.3.21;
tinos Ep.Rom. 8.29: abs.,
similar,
Luc.Am.39.
Romans 8.[29]
For
whom he foreknew (
Israel),
he also predestined to be
conformed to the image of
his Son,
that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.
- Jesus of Nazareth was changed into another form.
- He ascended to the one God the Father
- He received the promised Holy Spirit
- He returned--as promised--at Pentecost as Holy or Wholly Spirit in form
- He (Jesus post-change) shed forth the sights and sounds in the upper room.
- He did not change His Name: Holy Spirit is not a name
1John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.
And if any man sin, we have an advocate (paraklete) with the Father,
Jesus Christ the righteous:
1John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins:
and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Tim. 2:5 For there is one God,
and one mediator between God and men,
the man Christ Jesus
1 Thess 4:13 But I would not have you to be
ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep,
that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
1 Thess 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again,
even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with
him.
1 Thess 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord,
that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord
shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1 Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven
with a shout,
with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of
God:
and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain
shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet
the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit,
but try the spirits whether they are of God:
because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
1John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God:
Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God:
and this is that spirit of antichrist,
whereof ye have heard that it should come;
and even now already is it in the world.
1John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them:
because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
1John 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them
1John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us.
Hereby know we the Spirit OF truth, and the spirit of error.
4,03,11 Update on Jay Guinn and the nature of the Kingdom.
What Jay and the "progressives" points directly to the Scribes and
Pharisees whom Jesus called hypocrites and named in Ezekiel 33
self-speakers, singers and instrument players. Their job was to
violently take over the Kingdom by violent means. Just defining words
points directly to all of the performing artists who intend to "make
the voice of the Victim silent."
4.01.11 Matthew 11 Jesus speaks against singers, musicians and rhetoricians who BURDEN
the assembly of Christ and destroy the REST which is distubed by all of
the external trappings of a so-called worship service. These are the
people who take the kingdom or your congregation by force.
3.11.11 Logos versus Mythos: Word versus Music
Logos (modern) is rational of the word and STRAIGHT: Mythos and Sophia
(postmodern) are irrational and Gender-Confused. Mythos Nomoi
(traditional law)
(a) Eros is approved, and its excesses condoned,
when directed towards superior youths approaching manhood.
(b) It appears to be condemned, in so far as parents forbid their boys to
hold converse with “erastae.” The explanation of this ambiguous
attitude must be sought in the principle laid down above, that the
moral quality of an act depends upon the conditions of its performance.
GRACE is Kharizo 2.
gratify or indulge a humour or passion, 3.
in erotic sense, grant favours to a man,
give up as a favour by dropping a law aimed at him,
Those who willingly infiltrate and impose musical instruments into
a peaceable church justify the deliberate sowing of discord based on
false teachings of all of the "instrument" passages also preach that
GRACE will cover them.
Grace Centered
Magazine: 3.06.11. This
forum has a Church of Christ thread dedicated to abusing those who do
not deliberately reject the clear teaching of the Word and recorded
history. A common lie is that the Church Fathers had nothing bad to say
about the use of instruments based on Scripture. We have refuted that
to prove that NO ONE used instruments in the churches but refute the
Jews who did because they had been abandoned to Canaanite Baalism or
the worship of the starry host.
See Grace Centered Magazine Review on Baptism: Rejecting baptism fulfils the prophecy of Christ in Isaiah and Malachi.
Review of "Instrumental Music in the Old Testament: Part 2 (Worship)"
Jay has written another "brief" which goes something like this:
- Non-instrumentalists claim that "God commanded instrumental music under the OLD LAW" at the temple.
- There are several isolated events that people "worshiped" God with instruments OUTSIDE of the Temple.
- Therefor, it is acceptable to use instruments to worship God.
However, no one who had read much Old Testament and universal history
believes that God commanded king, kingdom, temple, animal sacrifices
and the Levites making noise during animal sacrifices.
They also know that Christ (the Rock) defined the Qahal, synagogue or Church of Christ in the Wilderness:
- It was INCLUSIVE of Rest, Reading and Rehearsing the Word of God: what disciples are commanded to do.
- It was EXCLUSIVE of vocal or instrumental rejoicing: what reverent disciples do not do.
- Jesus exampled and commanded the "ekklesia" which like
"synagogue" has no praise service because both are for heaaring
material prepared by a higher authority.
No historic scholar ever believed that there is any "musical" or
"singing" content in the Bible because none of it is metrical by
design.
No Bishop ever imposed the ACT of singing in that oriential non-tuneful
style until 373 after Constantine began to pay pagans to be unwashed
clergy.
When people
speak out of their own imagination instead of the Word as Spirit by
Christ in the Prophets and Apostles, Christ calls it blasphemy.
Of
Hezekiah's Plague stopping exorcism used to say that "God commanded
instrumental praise and we must not be disobedient" Christ calls them BLASPHEMERS.
2.17.10
Revised
If you would name the DISTINCTIVES
of The Church of Christ you would include.
1. There is ONE God the Father in heaven and
Jesus of Nazareth whom God made to be both Lord and Christ. Therefore,
all that we know about the Father has been Revealed by the Son and
therefore the "fullness of Deity dwelled in Him bodily.
See Alexander Campbell: the Trinitarian
System
2. But in the second
place, I have an insuperable objection to the Arian
and Calvinistic phraseology--
On the doctrine
of the first relation existing between
the Father and the Saviour of Men, because it confounds things human
and divine, and gives new ideas to bible terms unthought of by the
inspired writers.
The names Jesus, Christ, or
Messiah, Only Begotten
Son, Son of God, belong to the Founder of the christian religion, and
to none else.
They express not a relation
existing before the
christian era, but relations which commenced at that time.
To
understand the relation betwixt the Saviour and his Father,
which
existed before time,
and that
relation which began in time,
is
impossible on [333] either of these theories.
There was no Jesus, no Messiah, no Christ, no Son of God, no Only
Begotten, before the reign of Augustus Cesar.
The relation that was
before the christian era, was not that of a son and a father,
terms
which always imply disparity; but it was that expressed by John in
the sentence under consideration.
The relation was
that of God, and
the "word of God." This phraseology unfolds a
relation quite
different from that of a father and a son--a
relation perfectly
intimate, equal, and glorious. This naturally leads me to the first
sentence of John. And here I must state a few postulata.
The Lord's Supper was instituted during the Feast of Unleavened Bread which came "after supper." The Passover was only once a year and was a family ceremony and never a public ritual with singing and dancing. Jesus SPAKE A hymn and went out.
Paul defines the musical idolatry at Mount Sinai as demon worship. The Book of Enoch and Romans 1 etal define this fall from Grace for which there was no redemption.