Jay Guin 1 Corinthians 10: Falling Away over Food.

Jay Guin promotes instrumental music in worship: that is what happened at Mount Sinai.


I don't like to use proof texts so here is some fill-in so that you don't fall into musical idolatry.

1Cor. 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

1Cor. 10:2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

1Cor. 10:3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

1Cor. 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink:
        for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them:
        and that Rock was Christ.

Jay Guin at Mount Sinai: (1Co 10:5-6 ESV) 5 Nevertheless, with most of them God was not pleased, for they were overthrown in the wilderness.  6 Now these things took place as examples for us, that we might not desire evil as they did.

We now learn that Paul’s purpose in discussing the Exodus is to compare the church with the children of Israel — especially the fact that not all of Israel made it to the Promised Land.

1Cor. 10:5 But with many of them God was not well pleased:
        for they were overthrown in the wilderness.

1Cor. 10:6 Now these things were our examples,
        to the intent we should not lust after evil things,
as they also lusted.

tup-oō , A.form by impress, receive a form, be modelled,
III. ordain, decree,
IV. execute in due form,

epistol-ē , , (epistellō) A.anything sent by a messenger, message, order, commission, whether verbal or in writing ex epistolēs by command, like grammata,

Tup-os u^, ho, (tuptō) IX. prescribed form, model to be imitated, 2. general instruction, b. rule of life, religion,

1 Pet. 3:21 The like figure (Antitupon or Antitype counterpart) whereunto
        (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh,
        but the answer of [Appeal FOR] a good conscience toward God,)
        by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin,
        but ye have
obeyed from the heart that form (tupos a model for imitation) of doctrine
        which was delivered you. Ro 6:17
But now being
        made free from sin, and
        become servants to God, ye
        have your fruit unto holiness, and
        the end everlasting life. Ro 6:22

2 Thess 3:9 Not because we have not power,
but to
make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.

Anti (g473) an-tee'; a prim. particle; opposite, i.e. INSTEAD or because of (rarely in addition to): - for, in the room of. Often used in composition to denote contrast, requital, SUBSTITUTION, correspondence, etc.

  1. We are baptized by GRACE instead of having to build an Ark or drown
  2. We are baptized by GRACE instead of having to cross the Red Sea or be destroyed by FAITH ONLY when God said "Quit whining, lift up your arm and MOVE into the jaws of death.
  3. We are baptized by GRACE instead of having to be pinned on a stake and shed OUR blood.


1Cor. 10:7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.

paizō ,   2. esp. dance, “paisateOd.8.251; “dōma peristenakhizeto possin andrōn paizontōn23.147, cf. Hes.Sc.277; “p. te kai khoreuein Ar.Ra.409, cf. 390; “enoplia khalkōtheis epaizenPi.O.13.86:—Pass., alla pepaistai metriōs hēmin, of the chorus, Ar. Th.1227.

See Jay Guin's use of the PATTERN in dancing in worship.

Their rising up AGAINST god and dancing included:

4. play on a musical instrument, h.Ap.206: c. acc., “Pan ho kalamophthogga paizōnAr.Ra.230; dance and sing, Pi. O.1.16.
They worshipped the Stary Host and that is why God turned them over to worship the HOST of heaven including Abaddon or Apollon leader of the MUSES.
5. play amorously, “pros allēlousX.Smp.9.2; “meta tinosLXX Ge.26.8; of mares, Arist.HA572a30.
Paul wrote Romans 1 to define the MARK and CAUSE of sexual perversion stimulated by music.
6. hunt, pursue game, “p. kat' alsosS. El.567.

Ludo —Esp., to play on an instrument of music, to make or compose music or song: “ludere quae vellem calamo permisit agresti,Verg. E. 1, 10: “talia fumosi luduntur mense Decembri,Ov. Tr. 2, 491: “quod tenerae cantent, lusit tua musa, puellae,id. Am. 3, 1, 27: “coloni Versibus incomptis ludunt,Verg. G. 2, 386: “carmina pastorum,id. ib. 4, 565; Suet. Ner. 3: “si quid vacui sub umbra Lusimus tecum,Hor. C. 1, 22, 2.—
B. To sport, dally, wanton (cf. "amorous play," Milton, P. L. 9, 1045): “scis solere illam aetatem tali ludo ludere,Plaut. Most. 5, 2, 36: affatim edi, bibi, lusi, Liv. Andron. ap. Paul. ex Fest. s. v. affatim, p. 11 Müll.; cf.: “lusisti satis, edisti satis, atque bibisti,Hor. Ep. 2, 2, 214; Ov. A. A. 2, 389; Cat. 61, 207; Suet. Tib. 44; Mart. 11, 104, 5.—

Jay Guin at Mount Sinai:  The word translated “overthrown” is translated in other versions as “laid low,” “cut down,” or “struck down.” It’s an unusual verb, used only here in the New Testament, but also found in —

(Num 14:15-16 ESV)  15 “Now if you kill this people as one man, then the nations who have heard your fame will say,  16 ‘It is because the LORD was not able to bring this people into the land that he swore to give to them that he has killed them in the wilderness.'”

They sinned through the musical worship of the Egyptian Trinity represented by Apis: God turned them over to worship the Starry Host including Abaddon or Apollyon.  The loud instrumental noise--not called music--was called sorcery or exorcism because they were mortally afraid that they would be executed for even stumbling into a "holy" place or thing. The Levites were warrior cheer leaders and Jacob in Genesis 49 warns us NOT to attend the synagogue of Levi because he was a WARRIOR


prō-sterno , strāvi, strātum, 3, v. a., I.to strew in front of, to strew before one; also, to throw to the ground, throw down, overthrow, prostrate  “mores civitatis,Plin. 36, 15, 24, § 113: “carminum studium,Tac. Or 11: se prosternere, to demean or debase one's self, Cic. Par. 1, 14: “prostrata est Philisthaea omnis,Vulg. Isa. 14, 31.—

Is. 14:31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times

ŭlŭloululanti voce canere,
B. [select] Transf., of places, to ring, resound, re-echo with howling: “penitusque cavae plangoribus aedes Femineis ululant,Verg. A. 2, 488: “resonae ripae,Sil. 6, 285: “Dindyma sanguineis Gallis,

Gallus , i, m., = Gallos Strab.,  now Kadsha Su or Gökssu,
A. Galli , ōrum, m., the priests of Cybele, so called because of their raving,
satirically (on account of their emasculated condition),
Of or belonging to the priests of Isis, Gallic: “turma,the troop of the priests of Isis, Ov. Am. 2, 13, 18.

Studium as an occupation 

Carmen  I.a tune, song; poem, verse; an oracular response, a prophecy; a form of incantation (cf.: cano, cantus, and canto). “also versus, numeri, modi): carmen tuba ista peregit ( = sonus),Enn. Ann. 508 Vahl.: “carmine vocali clarus citharāque Philammon,Ov. M. 11, 317; cf. “vocum,id. ib. 12, 157: “per me (sc. Apollinem) concordant carmina nervis,
4. A response of an oracle, a prophecy, prediction: “ultima Cumaei venit jam carminis aetas,
5. A magic formula, an incantation

Miriam and the Levites were instrumental prophesiers or sorcerers..

The Britannica  

Prophets were a common phenomenon in Syria-Palestine. In an Egyptian text (11th century BC), Wen-Amon (a temple official at Karnak) was sent by the pharaoh to Gebal (Byblos) to procure timber. While there, a young noble of that city was seized by his god and in frenzy gave a message to the king of Gebal that the request of Wen-Amon should be honoured. In another instance,

an Aramaic inscription from Syria records that the god Baal-shemain told King Zakir (8th century BC) through seers and diviners that he would save the king from his enemies.

These chapters reveal the close connection between sacrificial rites and divine inspiration. In the Old Testament book of Numbers, chapters 22-24, the Mesopotamian prophet Balaam (who may have been a mahhu) from Pethor, whom the Moabite king Balak had asked to curse the invading Israelites, is mentioned. In chapter 27, verse 9, of Jeremiah, another Old Testament book, it is said that prophets, diviners, and soothsayers were in the neighbouring countries of Judah: in Edom, Moab, Ammon, Tyre, and Sidon. Since so little is known about these prophets, the question of the uniqueness of Hebrew prophecy is difficult to assess (see also Middle Eastern religion).

Jeremiah 27:9 Therefore hearken not ye to your prophets, nor to your diviners, nor to your dreamers, nor to your enchanters, nor to your sorcerers, which speak unto you, saying, Ye shall not serve the king of Babylon:

pello  pallō, pelō, to beat, strike, knock any thing or at any thing; to push, drive, hurl, impel, propel.
1. To drive out or away, to thrust or turn out, expel, banish;

3. To strike, set in motion, impel: “inpello, sagitta pulsa manu,Verg. A. 12, 320.—
4. Of a musical instrument, to strike the chords, play: “nervi pulsi,struck, Cic. Brut. 54, 199: “lyra pulsa manu,Ov. M. 10, 205; cf.: “classica pulsa,” i. e. blown, Tib. 1, 1, 4.—
A. In gen., to strike, touch, move, affect, impress, “of sound: Ille canit, pulsae referunt ad sidera valles,
1. To drive out or away, to banish, expel:
Phoebeā morbos arte, Abaddon-Apollyon Ars or arts is the LEGALISM WORD: 1. With the idea extended, any physical or mental activity, so far as it is practically exhibited; a profession, art (music, poetry, “musica,poetry,


Amos 5:26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images,
        the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.
Amos 5:27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus,
        saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts. 

Amos 6:1 WOE to them that are at ease [opulenti] in Zion, and trust in the mountain of Samaria, which are named chief of the nations, to whom the house of Israel came

ŏpŭlentus  B. Of respectability or rank, respectable, powerful, noble: opulenti pariter atque ignobiles, “ludos opulentius instructiusque facere,Liv. 1, 35, 7

lūdus A. In gen., a play, game, diversion, pastime, , spectacles, shows, exhibitions, which were given in honor of the gods, “hoc praetore ludos Apollini faciente,Cic. Brut. 20, 78
  2. Stage-plays Dionysius Corinthi dicitur ludum aperuisse,făcĭo
....făcĭo  anything YOU make or do;
poëma,to compose, id. Pis. 29, 70: “carmina,Juv. 7, 28: “versus,id. 7, 38: “sermonem,Cic. Fam. 9, 8, 1; cf. “litteram,id. Ac. 2, 2, 6: ludos, to celebrate, exhibit audientiam orationi



It’s the same word in the Septuagint (found in the Old Testament only here and in Job 12:23). This is the passage where God threatens to kill them all, except Moses, and to raise up a new nation from the descendants of Moses! (Num 14:11-12).

Paul’s point is that the Corinthians can fall away and fail to make it to the Promised Land just as nearly all the Israelites died in the desert. It’s a warning of the severest kind.

Hence, the TNIV gets the translation right —

(1Co 10:5 TNIV) 5 Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them; their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.

The Jews continued to burn infants in the red hot arms of Moloch right there in HELL or Topheth.


Don’t think that your baptism and taking the Lord’s Supper will save you if you rebel against God. Israel was baptized in the Red Sea and ate spiritual food in the presence of God — and yet nearly all of them died before crossing the Jordan!

I don’t know how anyone reconciles this warning with the doctrine of the Perseverance of the Saints. I think Paul and the rest of the scriptures teach that Christians will generally make it to the end and be saved, but I also think that rebellion is possible and will damn.

This is, indeed, a major theme of Hebrews, beginning in chapter 3 and culminating in chapter 10. It’s quite possible that this extended treatment of falling away in Hebrews was based on this teaching of Paul. Both compare the Christian life with the Exodus, and both conclude that Christians can fall away for rebellion as did Israel —

(Heb 3:13-19 NIV)  13 But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called “Today,” so that none of you may be hardened by sin’s deceitfulness.  14 We have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original conviction firmly to the very end.  15 As has just been said: “Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as you did in the rebellion.”  16 Who were they who heard and rebelled? Were they not all those Moses led out of Egypt?  17 And with whom was he angry for forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose bodies perished in the wilderness?  18 And to whom did God swear that they would never enter his rest if not to those who disobeyed?  19 So we see that they were not able to enter, because of their unbelief. 

Paul then warns the Corinthians against particular sins that the Israelites committed —

(1Co 10:6-8 TNIV)  6 Now these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did.  7 Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry.”  8 We should not commit sexual immorality, as some of them did–and in one day twenty-three thousand of them died. 

"The triumphal hymn of Moses had unquestionably a religious character about it; but the employment of music in religious services, though idolatrous, is more distinctly marked in the festivities which attended the erection of the golden calf." (Smith's Bible Dictionary, Music, p. 589).

Acts 7:41 And they made a calf in those days,
        and offered sacrifice unto the idol,
        and rejoiced in the works of their own hands.

Euphrainō , Ep. euphr-, fut. Att.155.12, Pi.I.7(6).3

Pind. I. 6
Just as we mix the second bowl of wine when the men's symposium is flourishing, here is the second song of the Muses for Lampon's children and their athletic victories: first in Nemea, Zeus, in your honor they received the choicest of garlands,
This is the Crooked Race we are warned to save ourselves FROM.

Pind. I. 7   In which of the local glories of the past, divinely blessed Thebe, did you most delight your spirit? Was it when you raised to eminence the one seated beside Demeter of the clashing bronze cymbals, flowing-haired [5] Dionysus? Or when you received, as a snow-shower of gold in the middle of the night, the greatest of the gods, when he stood in the doorway of Amphitryon, and then went in to the wife to beget Heracles?

But since ancient grace sleeps, and mortals are forgetful of whatever does not reach the highest bloom of skillful song, joined to glorious streams of words, [20] then begin the victory procession with a sweet-singing hymn for Strepsiades;

Aristoph. Ach. 5 I was in ecstasy and I love the Knights for this deed; ‘it is an honour to Greece.’ But the day when I was impatiently awaiting a piece by Aeschylus, what tragic despair it caused me when the herald called, “Theognis, introduce your Chorus!” Just imagine how this blow struck straight at my heart!

Xen. Sym. 7.5 However, these questions also fail to promote the same object that wine does; but if the young people were to have a flute accompaniment and dance figures depicting the Graces, the Horae, and the Nymphs, I believe that they would be far less wearied themselves and that the charms of the banquet would be greatly enhanced.”

Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven;

as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness? Acts 7:42

Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon. Acts 7:43

The phrase “setting our hearts on evil things” in v. 6 refers to Num 11:4 —

(Num 11:4-6 NIV) 4 The rabble with them began to crave other food, and again the Israelites started wailing and said, “If only we had meat to eat!  5 We remember the fish we ate in Egypt at no cost– also the cucumbers, melons, leeks, onions and garlic.  6 But now we have lost our appetite; we never see anything but this manna!”

Paul choose this word from the Septuagint —

(Num 11:34 ESV) Therefore the name of that place was called Kibroth-hattaavah, because there they buried the people who had the craving.

In short, remember that God struck down the Israelites who complained for meat.

The quotation in v. 7 is from Exo 32:6, referring to the golden calf, in which eating and drinking are associated with idolatry. Remember: we’re still discussing meats offered to idols!

In v. 8, Paul refers to Num 25:1-9,

(Num 25:1-2 ESV) While Israel lived in Shittim, the people began to whore with the daughters of Moab.  2 These invited the people to the sacrifices of their gods, and the people ate and bowed down to their gods. 

Another reference to idolatrous eating.

(1Co 10:9-10 ESV)  9 We must not put Christ to the test, as some of them did and were destroyed by serpents,  10 nor grumble, as some of them did and were destroyed by the Destroyer.

Yet two more references to the Israelites being punished because they complained about a lack of food.

(Num 21:5-6 ESV)  5 And the people spoke against God and against Moses, “Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? For there is no food and no water, and we loathe this worthless food.”  6 Then the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people, so that many people of Israel died. 

Paul’s reference to the Destroyer is to the Passover and the death angel. In this case, the eating of the sacrificed lamb — meat — saved the people.

Now, it’s a little odd that Paul refers to the event in Num 21 as putting Christ to the test. There are ancient manuscripts that replace “Christ” with “the Lord” or “God,” but textual critics believe “Christ” to be original here. After all, why would a copyist change “God” to “Christ” in this passage?

Hays suggests the parallel between the two halves of this verse does not necessarily imply that that Israelites had put Christ to the test. Paul could be understood to say “We should not put Christ to the test like some of them tested God.”

On the other hand, Paul has already identified Christ with the rock which provided water (and followed Israel) in 10:4 and in Exod. 17:2, 7, the people of Israel are twice described as testing “the Lord,” perhaps leading to Paul identify Christ the Lord as the one tested there. Furthermore, in Num. 21:6 it is “the Lord” who sends the serpents in response to the complaining.

Paul has already identified Christ as “the Lord” named in the Shema (see on 1 Cor. 8:6) making the identification between Christ and the Lord in those other OT texts a natural one. Numbers 21:5-6 is probably being read in the light of Psalm 78:18 where the incident is related to craving food, a theme found throughout this passage.

The Corinthians are warned against following the example of those in Israel who tested the Lord’s patience by insisting on eating the food they crave or desire even if it entails provoking him. Such insolence can expect to be met with judgment.

The theme of testing the Lord will be raised again in vv. 21-22 when Paul warns against provoking the Lord and the motif of God’s strength (see the comments there). While Paul would certainly vehemently oppose any behavior or attitudes that could be interpreted as putting the Lord to the test, the context indicates that his present concern is with the possibility of testing the Lord’s patience through participation in idolatrous activities. In Corinth that was most likely to happen through persistent consumption of food associated with idols.

Roy E. Ciampa and Brian S. Rosner, The First Letter to the Corinthians (Pillar NTC; Accordance electronic ed. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 2010), 462-463 (paragraphing added).

I quote this lengthy discussion in the Pillar Commentary to make this point: Rather than treating the God of the Old Testament as the source of Divine Wrath and Jesus as our Protector and Shield from God’s Anger — as though Jesus were somehow unlike the Torah’s YHWH, Paul goes well out of his way to associate Jesus of Nazareth with the severe punishments meted out to the Israelites for their complaining about food. Paul says Jesus killed the ungrateful, complaining Israelites.

Therefore, Paul is saying, don’t take the servant-hearted Messiah who died on the cross for you to be some sort of pushover. He is not to be trifled with — and certainly not over meat!

(1Co 10:11-12 ESV)  11 Now these things happened to them as an example, but they were written down for our instruction, on whom the end of the ages has come.  12 Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall.

An example is a PATTERN: the pattern was vocal and instrumental rejoicing when the only assembly was called to listen to the WORD of GOD only. Both Jews and Gentiles attended the synagogue called a skhole or READING ASSEMBLY and were therefore wise unto salvation defined in the prophets by Christ:
Acts 15:21 For Moses
        of old time hath
        in every city
        them that PREACH him,
        being READ in the synagogues every sabbath [rest] day.

Is it possible to fall? Yes. What might cause that? Being more concerned about your stomach than your brother. Will the grace of Jesus protect you? Not necessarily. Jesus will treat rebellion today just as he treated it in the Sinai desert.

Of course, not all sin and not all doctrinal error is rebellion. As Heb 10:26-27 makes clear, the sin must be a continuing, deliberate rejection of the will of God.


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