Hell and Mister Fudge

Hell or the Lake of Fire are for Hypocrites. preaching self for pay, singing, playing instruments as worship or acting.

We don't know the WHAT of hell or HOW LONG is forever and ever
But, all of those who as angels of light have tried to silence the WORD with music, are always the candidates because they are called 'sorcerers.' That's not supernatural but any thing musical which you use to REPLACE the command to PREACH the Word by READING the Word.

Having read lots of "papers" by the "scholars" who have infiltrated and diverted once-Christian Bible Colleges into universities, We are not aware of a single one who:

  1. Understands the forks in the road--beginning with the Garden of Eden or ancient Babylonia and ending with the same Babylon mother of harlots in Revelation 17: She uses the Amos 8 "lusted after fruits" as speakers for hire, singers, instrument players or even prostitutes: The Greek literature and Paul identified them as prostitutes: selling any of their skills or body parts to keep from working.
  2. Understand the Split in the road at Mount Sinai when the REST was profaned or polluted by PLAY which means singing, playing instruments and playing with one another without regards to sex.  See Romans 1 and The Book of Enoch affirmed by Jude.
  3. Understands the meaning of CHURCH: ekklesia, synagogue, qahal or Curch of Christ (the Rock) in the wilderness defined a two piece pattern which the New Testament or early history never changed.
    1. EXCLUSIVE of Vocal or Instrumental rejoicing or speaking out of your own head. That is the ALARM or TRIUMPH OVER called sorcery intending to fleece you
    2. INCLUSIVE of REST (away from Jerusalem), Reading and Rehearsing the Word of God. Both Jews and Gentiles were wise unto salvation.

      Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that PREACH him, being READ in the synagogues every sabbath day.

      2Cor. 3:14 But their minds were blinded: [because of musical idolatry]
      for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away
      in the READING of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

      Col. 4:16 And when this epistle is READ among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans;
      and that ye likewise READ the epistle from Laodicea.
  4. Understands the meaning of WORSHIP which in A Church of Christ is "giving attention to the reading of the Word." Elders as STAFF are commanded ot teach that which HAS been taught.
  5. Understands that a Church of Christ is built upon or EDUCATED by the Prophets and Apostles.
  6. Therefore, when you say that neither Old nor New Testament speaks about the LENGTH "for ever and ever, it is clear that they do not know that the CENI is to teach (not judge nor dogmatize which includes setting the Word to a song) what Jesus commanded to be taught which is what the Spirit OF (missed prepositions, too) Christ defined both INCLUSIVELY and EXCLUSIVEY.
Because God is God and we are not: we are infinitely removed from the Holy Spirit God who rules the universe.  That is why God prepared certain men to reveal as much of His nature as mankind needs to follow the religion of "loving God and practicing justice."  Throughout the Bible that revelation says that the imagination of man isonly evil continually and he will use the natural superstitions as a launch pad to riches and fame.

The "pattern" the Spirit OF Christ ordained for the church in the wilderness was to REST from the universal worship of the starry hosts and just about every other thing.
They they should READ His message to them: the only STAFF was a elder of groups of families as small as ten to PREACH the Word by READING the Word for doctrine (teaching) and comfort.

God did not invite us to pass judgment on the collected "library" but to read it. All ancient teaching was through reciting great epics which would instill the ethics and morality required for a peaceable home away from home.

Enter Mister Fudge who denounces anything that had been taught by a group which rejected his "reading beyond the sacred pages."

http://www.piney.com/Hell.and.Mister.Fudge.html man's view of human life and use it to TRUMP the clear teachings of the Spirit OF Christ in the prophets, the prophecies made more certain and the "memory" left of eye-- and ear--witnesses, it is possible that one is whistling in the cemetary.

Edward Fudge has been instrumental in leading young preachers into sowing discord by the use of "Instrumental Music in Worship" with an antagonistic tone against all that came before Him.

At the same time He has led may young preachers (never prepared to judge) into claiming that God in Christ was NOT saying what all historic translations SAY that He taught

The "Lucifer Principle" (Zoe, Eve etal) is being lifted up with pride claiming to speak for the true God: Lucifer is called by Christ "the singing and harp-playing prostitue." In the king of Babylon pattern He is cast into "hell" with his buried-alive harpists and harps.

We will post some of the UNIVERSAL connection between imposing musical performance (called sorcery) and being beaten into "hell" to the sound of wind, string and percussion instruments.  Or, In Revelation the speakers, singers and instruments as priests(ess) of the Babylon Mother of Harlots are called sorcerers and John says they will be CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.

A Disciple should just leave the text alone and let it speak WITHIN the sacred pages.  Hell and the Lake of Fire Mister Fudge is always for those who "make the lambs dumb before the slaughter" which is the meaning of religious music: it is called Sacred Violence.

Musically Mocking Jesus prophesied and fulfilled.
Mark 10:33 Saying, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem;
        and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests,
        and unto the scribes [hypocrites: speakers, singers, instrument players];
        and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles:
Mark 10:34 And they shall mock him,
Latin Illudo  as a female: Applied as a term of reproach, effeminate men, eloquence, rhētor but with idea of contempt, caneret,”
A. Of men: “si absurde canat, of the crooked race, a reed pipe, a guitar, crowing of a hen tibiae, tubaeGallus , i, m., = Gallos Strab., A. Galli , the priests of Cybele, on account of their emasculated condition) Gallic: “turma,” the troop of the priests of Isis, Ov. Am. 2, 13, 18.  “resupinati cessantia tympana Galli,”

Gallos , ho, A. priest of Cybele, gallazō , A. practise cult of Cybele, Galli. Eunuch priests of Cybele or the great mother: begun under the reign of Erichthonius, king of Attica, B.C. 1506;

Galli A form gallantes, as if from gallare, "to rave like a priest of Cybelι," is cited from Varro (ap. Non. p. 119Non., 5). In their wild, enthusiastic, and boisterous rites the Galli recalled the legends of the Corybantes (q.v.). According to an ancient custom, they were always castrated (spadones, semimares, semiviri, nec viri nec feminae), and it would seem that, impelled by religious enthusiasm, they performed this operation on themselves... Other names, however, are of distinctly Semitic affinities; Rhea perhaps=the Babylonian Ri (Mulita or Mylitta), and Nana more certainly=the Babylonian Nana, modern Syrian Nani.  Nana motherof Attis
Tac. Ann. 14.52 Of Nero:  They further alleged against him that he claimed for himself alone the honours of eloquence, and composed poetry more assiduously, as soon as a passion for it had seized on Nero. "Openly inimical to the prince's amusements, he disparaged his ability in driving horses, and ridiculed his voice whenever he sang
  and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him:
        and the third day he shall rise again
They don't burn in hell because they slipped up or recklessly taught many to repudiate the words of Jesus: They promote what they call "musical worship" to deliberately silence Jesus as the ONLY Teacher when any APT elder will teach that which has been taught because they are, like Cain, OF THAT WICKED ONERevelation identifies both Satan and the musical performers as HAVING deceived the whole world.

The Spirit OF Christ Refutes Edward Fudge: If hell only consumes or BURNS UP there are many references that the sounds of MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS in the School of the Word is the MARK that God is driving His enemies into "hell" and He proves that they are still alive and being taunted .
  A Church of Christ is built upon or EDUCATED by the Prophets and Apostles: Peter says that is not subject to private interpretation or further expounding. That would mark a false teacher. Therefore, "pounds" of isolated passages about the human as he vanishes into nothing has nothing to do with the spirit which God gave to everyone.  The body returns to the dust and is consumed but the "spirit" returns to God Who gave it.  After  the body and soul (life) has perished the spirit which God sent into the world is still at His  disposal.

Instrumental noise which spooks or frightens people long enough for evil people to pick their pocket and steal their lambs.  The "feeling" induced by tuneful sounds induce endorphin and other mind altering chemicals. They produce the "runner's high" including Fight, Flight or Sexual stimulation.  This is more powerful and safer than strong-armed robbery because the person being attacked feels a sense of elation or a "good bump quotient" as a drug high. Music is addictive and the Sorcerers or Witches know that they can get you back and claim a "spirit" speaks to them or hold 40 days of prayer to convince the duped that the leaders are speaking for God.

Isa 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord:
.......... I am full of the burnt offerings of rams,
.......... and the fat of fed beasts;
.......... and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

Isa 1:12 When ye come to appear before me,
.......... who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?

Isa 1:13 Bring no more vain oblations;
.......... incense is an abomination unto me;
.......... the new moons and sabbaths,
.......... the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with;
.......... it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.

Prophesying Baptism

Isa 1:19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

Isa 1:20 But if ye refuse and rebel,
.......... ye shall be devoured with the sword:
.......... for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

Isa 1:21 How is the faithful city become an harlot
.......... it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.

Isa 1:22 Thy silver is become dross, thy wine mixed with water:

Isa 1:23 Thy princes are rebellious,
.......... and companions of thieves:
.......... every one loveth gifts,
.......... and followeth after rewards:
.......... they judge not the fatherless,
.......... neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.

Isa 1:24 Therefore saith the Lord, the Lord of hosts, the mighty One of Israel,
.......... Ah, I will ease me of mine adversaries,
.......... and avenge me of mine enemies.

Isa 1:28 And the destruction of the transgressors
.......... and of the sinners shall be together,
.......... and they that forsake the Lord shall be consumed.

After they are CONSUMED:

Isa 1:29 For they shall be ashamed of the oaks which ye have desired,
.......... and ye shall be confounded for the gardens that ye have chosen.

Isa 1:30 For ye shall be as an oak whose leaf fadeth,
.......... and as a garden that hath no water.

Isa 1:31 And the strong shall be as tow,
.......... and the maker of it as a spark,
.......... and they shall both burn together,
.......... and none shall quench THEM.

THEM who shall not be quenched are THEM that rose up against God in musical idolatry

suc-cendo   II. Trop., to kindle, inflame with passion, etc. (only poet.; cf. “succenseo): succendit Castora Phoebe,”
“Deucalion Pyrrhae succensus amore,” Ov. H. 15, 167: “altera succensa cupidine
ex-stinguo (ext- ), a., to put out what is burning, to quench, extinguish (class.;
B. Transf., to deprive of life or strength, to kill, destroy: “animam alicui,” Ter. Ad. 3, 2, 16
Music and Burning are absolutely connected. Jesus to be Smitten and Plucked

Isa 50:5 The Lord GOD hath opened mine ear,
        and I was not rebellious, neither turned away back.

Isa 50:6 I gave my back to the smiters, 
        and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair:
        I hid not my face from shame and spitting.
Isaiah 50.6 [6] corpus meum dedi percutientibus et genas meas vellentibus faciem meam non averti ab increpantibus et conspuentibus

I. (With the notion of the per predominating.) To strike through and through, to thrust or pierce through (syn.: percello, transfigo).
II. (With the idea of the verb predominating.) To strike, beat, hit, smite, shoot, etc. (cf.: ico, pulso, ferio). CLAP
2. To strike, shock, make an impression upon, affect deeply, move, astound (class.): “percussisti me de oratione prolatā,
3. To cheat, deceive, impose upon one .
In Particular b. To strike, play a musical instrument (poet.): “lyram,” Ov. Am. 3, 12, 40; Val. Fl. 5, 100
. To strike, shock, make an impression upon, affect deeply, move, astound (class.): “percussisti me de oratione prolatā,” Cic. Att. 3, 12, 3; id. Mil. 29, 79:

Pello 4. Of a musical instrument, to strike the chords, play: “nervi pulsi,” struck, Cic. Brut. 54, 199: “lyra pulsa manu,” Ov. M. 10, 205; cf.: “classica pulsa,” i. e. blown, Tib. 1, 1, 4
In partic. 1. To drive out or away, to banish, expel  Phoebeā morbos arte

-Ov. Am. 3.12 Elegy XII: He complains that the praises he has bestowed on his mistress in his verses, have occasioned him many rivals.
Is. 50:11 Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that compass yourselves about with sparks:
        walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks that ye have kindled.
        This shall ye have of mine hand; ye shall lie down in sorrow.

Aphrahat 4th century who introduced singing as an ACT

19. Now thus is faith; when a man believes in God the Lord of all, Who made the heavens and the earth and the seas and all that is in them; and He made Adam in His image; and He gave the Law to Moses; He sent of His Spirit upon the prophets; He sent moreover His Christ into the world.

Furthermore that a man should believe in the resurrection of the dead; and should furthermore also believe in the sacrament of baptism.

This is the faith of the Church of God. And (it is necessary) that a man should separate himself from the observance of hours and Sabbaths and moons and seasons, and divinations and sorceries and Chaldaean arts and magic, from fornication and from festive music, from vain doctrines, which are instruments of the Evil One, from the blandishment of honeyed words, from blasphemy and from adultery.

And that a man should not bear false witness, and that a man should not speak with double tongue. These then are the works of the faith which is based on the true Stone which is Christ, on Whom the whole building is reared up. 

Matthew 23 

Matthew  23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
        for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men:
        for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

hupokrino reply, make answer, of an oracle, 2. expound, interpret, explain [Peter outlawed this as private interpretation.] 2. deliver a speech, declaim, of orators and rhetoricians, represent dramatically, eroticon dramaton 3. of an orator, use histrionic arts, exaggerate, ape, mimic, Mania or religious frenzy.

LATIN: canto I. Neutr., to produce melodious sounds (by the voice or an instrument), to sound, sing, play (class. in prose and poetry; to sing and play while the actor accompanies the song with gestures or dancing, C. Transf., of instruments, to sound, resound: 2. Of the singing pronunciation of an orator, to declaim in a singing tone, to sing

Prophasis (g4392) prof'-as-is; from a comp. of 4253 and 5316; an outward showing, i.e. pretext: - cloke, colour, pretence, show.

Skhēma 2. appearance, Opposite the reality, ouden allo plēn . . s. a mere outside, E.Fr.25, cf. 360.27, Pl.R.365c; show, pretence, “ēn de touto . . s. politikon tou logou” Th.8.89; ;
“skhēmasi kai khrōmasi mimeisthai” esp. outside show, pomp, to tēs arkhēs s. Pl.Lg.685c;
X.Smp.7.5; en . . mousikē [hēs to kitharizein kai to adein kai to embainein orthōs;]  kai skhēmata . . kai melē enesti figures and tunes, Pl.Lg.655a 10. = to aidoion LXXIs.3.17.


Ezek 33:32 And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song
........... of one that hath a pleasant voice,
........... and can play well on an instrument:
........... ........... for they hear thy words,
........... ........... but they do them not.

Eze 33:32 Indeed, to them you are nothing more
        than one who sings love songs with a beautiful voice
        and plays an instrument well,
        for they hear your words
        but do not put them into practice.

And the harp, and the viol, the tabret, and pipe, and wine, are in their feasts:
but they regard not the work of the Lord, neither consider the operation of his hands. Is.5:12

Ezek 33:33 And when this cometh to pass, (lo, it will come,)
        then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them

Matthew  23:30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers,
        we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
Matthew  23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves,
        that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
Matthew  23:32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
Matthew  23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers,
        how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Jubal was the GENETIC FATHER of those who handle (without authority all of the musical instruments) in order to fleece the sheep. They do not deliberately sow musical discord as a profession: they are OF the WORLD for which Jesus does not pray.

If the Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites: just get burned up on the judgment heap and then blank out the what's the punishment:
krisis [i^s, eōs, , krinō) separating, distinguishing, choice, election,
c.  hēmera kriseōs Day of Judgement, Ev.Matt.10.15.
Matt. 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: [penal inflection,
         but the righteous into life eternal.

Matthew 24:48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
Matthew 24:49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;

-per-cŭtĭo  b. To strike, play a musical instrument (poet.): “lyram,” Ov. Am. 3, 12, 40; Val. Fl. 5, 100
1.  To smite, strike, visit with calamity of any kind (class.): “percussus calamitate,” Cic. Mur. 24, 49: “percussus fortunae vulnere,” id. Ac. 1, 3, 11: “ruina,” Vulg. Zach. 14, 18: anathemate. id. Mal. 4, 6: “plaga,” id. 1 Macc. 1, 32: “in stuporem,” id. Zach. 12, 4
 2. o strike, shock, make an impression upon, affect deeply, move, astound

Matthew 24:50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour
that he is not aware of,

Matthew 24:51 And shall cut him asunder,
        and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites:
        there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

-hypocrĭta or -es , ae, m., = hupokritēs.
I.  A mime who accompanied the delivery of an actor by gestures, Suet. Ner. 24; Quint. 2, 17, 12; 11, 3, 7
II. In eccl. Lat., a hypocrite, Vulg. Job, 8, 13; id. Matt. 6, 2; id. Luc. 12, 56 al.

-hupo-kri^tēs , ou, ho,
A. one who answers:
I. interpreter or expounder, “tēs di' ainigmōn phēmēs” Pl.Ti. 72b; “oneirōn” Luc.Somn.17, etc.
II. in Att., one who plays a part on the stage, actor, Ar.V.1279, Pl.R.373b, Chrm. 162d, Smp.194b, X. Mem.2.2.9, etc.
2. of an orator, poikilos hu. kai perittos (of Dem.) Phld.Rh.1.197 S.; one who delivers, recites, declaimer, “epōn” Tim.Lex. s.v. rhapsōdoi; rhapsodist, D.S.14.109, 15.7; this sense or sense 11.1 is possible in PCair.Zen.4.44 (iii B. C.).
3. metaph., pretender, dissembler, hypocrite, LXX Jb.34.30, 36.13, Ev.Matt.23.13, al.
-poikilos i^, ē, onIII. metaph., changeful, diversified, manifold,
2. of Art, p. humnos a song of changeful strain or full of diverse art, Pi.O.6.87; “poikilon kitharizōn” Id.N.4.14; “dedaidalmenoi pseudesi poikilois muthoi” Id.O.1.29; of style, “lexis poiētikōtera kai p.” Isoc.15.47 (Comp.); “skhēmatismoi” D.H.Is.3.
b. of abstruse knowledge, intricate, subtle, “eidenai ti p.” E.Med.300; ouden p. nothing abstruse or difficult, Pl.Men.75e, Grg.491d, etc.
c. of persons and things, subtle, artful, wily, of Prometheus, Hes.Th. 511, A.Pr.310; of Odysseus, E.IA526; “p. gar hanēr” Ar.Eq.758; “phusei p.” Plb.8.18.4; “alōpēx kerdalea kai p.” Pl.R.365c; p. lalēmata, of the Sirens, E.Andr.937; “p. toxon” B.9.43; “bouleumata” Pi. N.5.28. Adv. subtly, artfully, E.Ba.888(lyr.); “sophōs . . kai p.” Alex. 110.20; “p. khrōmenoi tois pragmasin” Plb.4.30.7.
4. changeable, unstable, “ho eudaimōn ou p. kai eumetabolos” Arist.EN1101a8; p. elpides doubtful hopes, Plb.14.1.5;
Weeping cannot happen if the evil are just burned up.
Aristot. Pol. 7.1336a The legislators in the Laws forbid allowing children to have paroxysms of crying, but this prohibition is a mistake; violent crying contributes to growth, for it serves in a way as exercise for the body, since holding the breath is the strength giving factor in hard labor, and this takes place also with children when they stretch themselves in crying.
brug-mos , ho,
A. biting, ib.716 (pl., v.l. brukhmos); gobbling, Eup.347; chattering, shivering, Hp.Vict.3.84, Steril.214, Euryphon ap.Gal.17(1).888; b. odontōn gnashing of teeth, Ev.Matt.8.12, al.
II. roaring of a lion, LXX Pr.19.12.
Proverbs 19:12 The king's wrath is like the roaring of a lion, But his favor is like dew on the grass

Rev. 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God,
        which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation;
        and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels,
        and in the presence of the Lamb:

The Babylon Mother of harlots uses "lusted after fruits." These are the same fruits or catamites in Isaiah 8.

Rev 18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven,
        and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her. 
Rev 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying,
         Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down,
         and shall be found no more at all. 

The emasculated (literally or virtually) clergy are defined as:

Rev 18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters,
        shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be,
        shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; 
Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee;
        and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee:
        for thy merchants were the great men of the earth;
        for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. 
Rev 18:24 And in her [Jerusalem] was found the blood of prophets, and of saints,
        and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Rev. 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven,
        saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory,
        and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God
Rev. 19:2 For true and righteous are his judgments:
        for he hath judged the great whore,
        which did corrupt the earth with her fornication,
         and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.
Rev. 19:3 And again they said, Alleluia.
        And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

Rev. 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone,
        where the beast and the false prophet are,
        and shall be tormented day and night
Rev. 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 
Rev. 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Rev. 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers,
        and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars,
        shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:
        which is the second death.

Re.21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth,
        neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie:
        but they which are written in the Lambs book of life.

Re.22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
        God shall take away his part out of the book of life,
        and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.


Exod 32:6 And they rose up early on the morrow,  and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; 
        and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play

The golden calf represented Apis a real bull calf in Egypt. This represented the always-pagan ftrinitiy of Osiris, Isis and Horus.

Hebrew: h6711 tsachaq, tsaw-khak΄; a primitive root; to laugh outright (in merriment or scorn); by implication, to sport:—laugh, mock, play, make sport.

Surgo they rose up in insurrection AGAINST God.

Hκdonais 3. Pl., desires after pleasure, pleasant lusts, X.Mem.1.2.23, Ep.Tit.3.3,

"The triumphal hymn of Moses had unquestionably a religious character about it; but the employment of music in religious services, though idolatrous, is more distinctly marked in the festivities which attended the erection of the golden calf." (Smith's Bible Dictionary, Music, p. 589).

Ludo  A. To sport, play with any thing, to practise as a pastime, amuse one's self with any thing, B. To sport, dally, wantonly Esp., to play on an instrument of music, to make or compose music or song: “carmina pastorum,”

 Vellem a comedy which wishes (i. e. is meant) to be in demandb. Of the wishes of those that have a right to command, the gods, masters, parents, commanders, etc., I want, wish, will, am resolved, it is my will:

Canto I. Neutr., to produce melodious sounds (by the voice or an instrument), to sound, sing, play, Less freq. of instrumental music, and only with abl. of the instrument, in comedy, to sing and play while the actor accompanies the song with gestures or dancing,

Tuba war trumpet, Apart from military purposes, it was used on various occasions, as at religious festivals, games, funerals, a signal for WAR, exciter, instigator.

Empaizō , fut. To be deluded  2. euphem. in mal. part., LXXJd. 19.25.

Jdg 19:25 But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go.

II. sport in or on, hτs nebros chloerais e. leimakos hκdonais E.Ba. 866 (lyr.); tois choroisin e. to sport in the dance, Ar.Th.975; tτi  Luc.Lex.5

Paig-ma , atos, to,
A. play, sport, lōtos hotan . . paigmata bremē whene'er the pipe sounds its sportive strains, E.Ba.161(lyr.); “Ludia p. luras” Lyr.Alex.Adesp.37.15. II. 'child's play', to toiouto p. tōn logōn

Exodus 32: 31 And Moses returned unto the LORD, and said,
        Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold.
Exodus 32: 32 Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin -;
         and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written.
Exodus 32: 33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me,
        him will I blot out of my book.

Rising up to play means rising up AGAINST God because making a spectacle or laughingstock out of yourself by singing, playing and dancing DISQUALIFIES anyone as suitable for living in a HOLY SPIRIT universe.

All musical instruments and musical terms are used for ENCHANTMENT or SORCERY.  If you are a Sorcerer it is because you HAD DECEIVED the whole world once as the ministers of Satan.

1Corinthians 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues
        of men and of angels,               (condemned)
        and have not charity, (Grace)   (condemned)
        I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

This is not speaking as in the command to SPEAK one to another to teach and comfort. Sounding brass and tinkling cymbals here are identifying marks of people who have NO LOVE. Even if they COULD speak all of the languages in the world there would be no love. The command is to SPEAK or LOGOS the Word of Christ which is the opposite of rhetoric, singing or playing instruments. Speaking in the tongues of angels was IN FACT making music in tongues.  Tongues and Instruments INTEND to lull people to sleep with THE LOCUSTS OF REVELATION.

La^l-eō, Mark of the Locusts II.  chatter, Opposite. articulate speech, as of locusts, chirp, Theoc.5.34; mesēmbrias lalein tettix (sc. eimi), a very grasshopper to chirp at midday,  III.  of musical sounds, “aulō [flute] laleō” Theoc.20.29; “di'aulou [flute] ē salpiggos l.”[trumpet] Arist. Aud.801a29; of Echomagadin lalein sound the magadis,  [double flute]

Aggelos ,  of a loquacious person 2.  generally, one that announces or tells, e.g. of birds of augury, Il.24.292,296; Mousōn aggelos, of a poet
Aggelos , ho, ,
A. messenger, envoy, Il.2.26, etc.; “di' aggelōn homileein tini” Hdt.5.92.z, cf. SIG229.25 (Erythrae):— prov., Arabios a., of a loquacious person, Men.32.
2. generally, one that announces or tells, e.g. of birds of augury, Il.24.292,296; Mousōn aggelos, of a poet,“aggelon glōssan logōn” E.Supp.203; “aisthēsis hēmin a.” Plot.5.3.3; neut. pl., “aggela nikēs” Nonn.D.34.226.
4. In later philos., semi-divine being, “hēliakoi a.” Jul.Or.4.141b,  “a. kai arkhaggeloi”  also in mystical and magical writings, “aggela nikēs”
nik-ēi_, II. pr. n., Nike, the goddess of victory, Hes.Th.384, cf. Pi.I.2.26, etc.; “Nikē Athana Polias” S.Ph.134, cf. E. Ion457 (lyr.), 1529.
The craftsmen, singers and instrument players in Revelation 18 are called sorcerers. Those who speak in tongues including musical instruments like the LOCUST are called scapegoats or Pharmakos.  Because they have presumed to decorate or enhance the "Worship Center" they CANNOT be redeemed and must be burned. Even if you worked all of your own righteousness it would not be love and would be in vain.

1Cor. 13:3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor,
        and though I give my body to be burned,
         and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

Greek Religion: Popular religion flourished alongside the civic cults. Peasants worshiped the omnipresent deities of the countryside, such as the Arcadian goat-god Pan, who prospered the flocks, and the nymphs [brides in Revelation 18:23] (who, like Eileithyia, aided women in childbirth) inhabiting caves, springs (Naiads), trees (Dryads and Hamadryads), and the sea (Nereids). They also believed in nature spirits such as Satyrs [the BEAST] and Sileni and equine Centaurs. Among the more popular festivals were the rural Dionysia, which included a phallus pole;[Jochin and boaz]

the Anthesteria, when new wine was broached and offerings were made to the dead; the Thalysia, a harvest celebration; the

Thargelia, when a scapegoat (pharmakos) assumed the communal guilt; and the Pyanepsia, a bean feast in which boys collected offerings to hang on the eiresione ("wool pole"). Women celebrated the Thesmophoria in honour of Demeter and commemorated the passing of Adonis with laments and miniature gardens, while images were swung from trees at the Aiora to get rid of an ancient hanging curse. Magic was widespread. Spells were inscribed on lead tablets. Statues of Hecate, goddess of witchcraft, stood outside dwellings, while Pan's image was beaten with herbs in time of meat shortage.

The prophesied and fulfilled smiting or mocking Jesus

-cŭtĭo  Carries the always-violent message of Psallo
(With the idea of the verb predominating.) To strike, beat, hit, smite, shoot, etc. (cf.: ico, pulso, ferio).
I. (With the notion of the per predominating.) To strike through and through, to thrust or pierce through (syn.: percello, transfigo).

In Particular b. To strike, play a musical instrument (poet.): “lyramOv. Am. 3, 12, 40; Val. Fl. 5, 100

B. Trop. 
1. To smite, strike, visit with calamity of any kind (class.): “percussus calamitate,” Cic. Mur. 24, 49: “percussus fortunae vulnere,” id. Ac. 1, 3, 11: “ruina,” Vulg. Zach. 14, 18: anathemate. id. Mal. 4, 6: “plaga,” id. 1 Macc. 1, 32: “in stuporem,” id. Zach. 12, 4

Music from mystery means to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter.
Stŭpor, I. numbness; dulness, insensibility, stupidity, stupor, stupefaction; astonishment, wonder, amazement
Zech 12[] In that day," says Yahweh, "I will strike every horse with terror, and his rider with madness; and I will open my eyes on the house of Judah, and will strike every horse of the peoples with blindness.
See Anathema and Musical Worship: once dedicated cannot be redeemed: must be burned.

2. To strike, shock, make an impression upon, affect deeply, move, astound (class.): “percussisti me de oratione prolatā,” Cic. Att. 3, 12, 3; id. Mil. 29, 79:
3. To cheat, deceive, impose upon one (class.): “aliquem probe,” Plaut. Ps. 2, 2, 9: “hominem eruditum,” Cic. Fl. 20, 46: “hominem strategemate,” id. Att. 5, 2, 2: “aliquem palpo,” to flatter, Plaut. Am. 1, 3, 28

Paul warned about CORRUPTING the Word which means SELLING STUFF AT WHOLESALE which word marks a prostitute. A religious prostitute SELLS the Free Water of the Word (Isaiah 55) and violates the command of Christ against self pleasure or even SPEAKING YOUR OWN WORDS. It would not be unjust that people who have dedicated their lives to sowing discord and disputing the clear Word (regultive principle) that their spirit should be consigned to an unpleasant place. I suggest that false teachers for hire all be sent to the same semi-desert to hourly search for the "water of the Word" and have to listen to preachers and praise teams for all eternity. It certainly seems like an eternity to this creature.

The Spirit OF Christ speaking of the worship of the King of Tyre identical to that at Jerusalem called him/her "the singing and harp-playing prostitute" in thee Garden of Eden.   The Jews worshipped the STARRY HOST after God abandoned them because of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai.  The Levites were not just the descendants of the Jacob-cursed tribe of levi but called Brahmin by Josephus and recorded as FIRE WORSHIPERS.  The Amos woes are against those who feasted with and for dead ancestors.  Christ says the Jews had a Covenant with Death and Hell. Therefore, if you say that the Old Testament does not speak of a hell populated by conscious people you lie to God and about God.

God was, contrary to the theologians, smart enough to say that the evil will be TORTURED for a spell and the SNUFFED OUT.  That despises (blasphemy) both God and the Holy Spirit OF Christ who refutes Edward Fudge and marks him.

Lucifer or Phosphorus "the bringer of light"). The name of the planet Venus, when seen in the morning before sunrise. The same planet was called Hesperus, Vesperugo, Vesper, Noctifer, or Nocturnus, when it appeared in the heavens after sunset. Lucifer as a personification is called a son of Astraeus and Aurora or Eos, of Cephalus and Eos, or of Atlas By Philonis he is said to have been the father of Ceyx. He is also called the father of Daedalion and of the Hesperides. Lucifer is also a surname of several goddesses of light, as Artemis, Aurora, and Hecatι.

lucĭfer , fĕra, fĕrum, adj. lux-fero,
I. light-bringing: “itaque ut apud Graecos Dianam, eamque Luciferam, sic apud nostros Junonem Lucinam in pariendo invocant,” Cic. N. D. 2, 27, 68: “pars Lunae,” Lucr. 5, 726: “equi,” the horses of Luna, Ov. H. 11, 46: “manus,” i. e. of Lucina, id. ib. 20, 192Poet., bringing safety, Prud. Psych. 625.— Hence,
II. Subst.: Lūcĭfer , fĕri, m.
A. The morning-star, the planet Venus: “stella Lucifer interdiu, noctu Hesperus ita circumeunt,” Varr. R. R.

He is Apollo, Abaddon or Apollyn as the king of the LOCUSTS who are the Musical Worship Team of Satan himself.

Luke 18:32 For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles,
        and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on:

Paizo dance, play a game,  4. play on a musical instrument, h.Ap.206: c. acc., Pan ho kalamo phthongapaizτn [played on a reed] Ar.Ra.230 ; dance and sing, Pi. O.1.16. 5. play amorously, prosallκlous X.Smp.9.2 

Xen. Sym. 9.2 “Gentlemen, Ariadne will now enter the chamber set apart for her and Dionysus; after that, Dionysus, a little flushed with wine drunk at a banquet of the gods, will come to join her; and then they will disport themselves together.”
herpeton   II. creeping thing, reptile, esp. snake, kinad-os , eos, hence, cunning rogue, dog, catamite.
 epi-triptos    thērion, psōmo-kolax , a^kos, ho, A.flatterer for morsels of bread, parasite
2. nun e. kai kateaguia mousikē the disreputable and effeminate music of to-day, oulomenos
II. ruined, lost: hence, unhappy, wretched: pharmakon preachers, singers,
                instrument players SORCERERS to be cast alive int the lake of fire.
thērion The Beast is a new style of music or drama including satyric dramas. THE MARK of the  beast is to PLAY or mock Jesus
Serpo  II. Trop., to creep, crawl; to extend gradually or imperceptibly; to spread abroad, increase, prevail (a favorite trope of Cic.): occulto
Of a low, grovelling poetic style: “(poλta) Serpit humi tutus,” crawls along the earth, Hor. A. P. 28 (cf.: “sermones Repentes per humum,”
“sapor,” Verg. G. 3, 397: b. Of persons, close, reserved, secret, not opendissembling his hate,

, qui leniter ... placidis per vada serpis aquis,
” creepest, windest along,
occŭlo (obc- ) In partic., to cover up, hide, conceal
puncta argumentorum,” Cic. de Or. 2, 41, 77: “narratum ab iis,” to keep secret, conceal, Tac. A. 3, 16:
“occulta conjurationis retexere,” id. ib. 15, 74: “occulta cordis,” Vulg. 1 Cor. 14, 25:
Săpor , 1. Of style: “vernaculus,” i.e. taste, elegance, Cic. Brut. 46, 172; Arn. 3, p. 108: “Atticus,” Quint. 12, 10, 75; cf. id. 6, 4, 107: “sermo non publici saporis,” of uncommon elegance, Petr. 3, 1

Edward Fudge No Everlasting Punishment 

Isaiah 30

A Disciple of Christ is commanded to PREACH the WORD by READING the Word for Comfort and Doctrine. Edward Fudge credits the book and himself with the introduction of Instrumental Music knowing that it would create a NEW SECTARIAN split known as The Progressive Church of Christ.  A Disciple of Christ does not make a profession out of listing all of the "proofs" out of context needing to TRUMP those not still ANTI-whatever.

The LOGOS is God's Regulative Principle: it outlaws preacher's opinions, singing, playing instruments, acting or Corrupting the Word meaning "selling learning at wholesale" which word and the Greek views of the sophists is prostitution

Logos Opposite. muthos, as history to legend, prose, opp. poiκsis, Id.R.390a; Opposite to emmetros opp. poiκtikκ, D.H.Comp.6; opp. poiκmata, ib.15; koinakaipoiκmatτnkailogτn  Only the words of lyric or dramatic poetry. X. the Word or Wisdom of God, personified as his agent in creation and world-government,

Ana logistikos judging by analogy, grammatikos, haireses,

Dogma A.that which seems to one, opinion or belief, philosophical doctrines, 2.decision, judgement,Id.Lg.926d (pl.); public decree, ordinance

Dogma is the Greek -Autonomia or Self made laws: 3. dogmatism it includes POETRY poi-κtikos or poetic license.
Dogma is: -Poi-κtikos A.capable of making, creative, productive Opposite to praktikos or useful. Strong, vigorous. “hēdonōn”  “p. kai mousikoi” Id.Lg.802bII. poetical, “lexis” Isoc.15.47
II. of persons, skilled in music, musical, melody, used to speak before a mob, elegant, delicate, effeminate. Hedone
Dogmatic is -Theorematikos A.to be interpreted as seen, oneiroi, opp. allēgorikoi, A
II. theoretic, “aretē” Stoic.3.48, cf. lamb.Protr.21.lb, D.L.3.49; dogmatic, epith. of Metrodorus,
The Bible speaks of Prophetic Types being cast alive into "hell" along with their harps and buried-alive harpists. They are treated as conscious.  Edward Fudge has decided that his GOOD GOD will only punish them long enough to CONSUME or EXECUTE them. The body and soul (life) can be consumed but the spirit or mind is never said to be consumed.

Those who will be CONSUMED in this "hell" are ALWAYS those who have treated God as a lover or sugar-daddy who gives GIFTS to those who engage in Fertility Rituals: the praise singer is the world's OLDEST profession and he usually worked as the Second Oldest Profession where music was used to make people think that they had "experienced" their god when they had just been driven into wrath or ORGY which Paul guards against by having both men and women sit down and shut up to hear the WORD (regulative principle) being PREACHED by being READ.  Paul defines the one-piece pattern "so that we might all be saved and come to a knowledge of the TRUTH.

At Mount Sinai Instrumental Idolatry caused God to take away The Book of The Covenant of Grace, impose the Law of Moses and sentence Israel back to Assyria and Babylon for the sentence of captivity and death.

The Jacob-Cursed and God-Abandoned Levites executed 3000 of the "brethren" for engaging in PLAY or the instrumental idolatry of the golden calf representing the always-pagan trinity of Osiris-Isis-Horus.
In Egyptian Mythology, Horus IS Lucifer'.
Horus was the posthumous son and heir of the god Osiris, the primordial king and giver of life. He was invited by his uncle, Seth, to spend a day. Seth’s real motive was not to show him hospitality but to disqualify him from inheriting his father’s royal power. To this end, while Horus slept Seth committed an act of sodomy upon him. Since sodomy was inflicted as a punishment on a defeated enemy and was a symbol of domination, Seth could then claim that he had conquered Horus and demand the kingship in his place.
In Isaiah 30 inspired by the Spirit OF Christ the MARKS of God casting His ENEMIES into "hell" are the sound of wind, string and percussion instruments.  The universal connection with assualting God and destroying His REST by MUSIC is being cast on a bed of maggots to burn up and be CONSUMED.  Consumption is MARKED by what Christ called the Singing and harp-playing prostitute in the garden of Eden.  Being CAST as Profane is the word Chalal Ch2490 which is the same as David's praise word h1984 Halal which is the MARK of Lucifer h1966


And his breath [SPIRIT], as rushing water in a valley, reach reach as far as the neck, and be divided, to confound the nations for their vain error; error also shall pursue them and overtake them. Isaiah 30:28 LXX

Must ye always rejoice, and go into my holy places continually, as they that keep a feast? and must ye go with a pipe, as those that rejoice into the mountain of the Lord, to the God of Israel Isaiah 30:29 LXX

and the Lord shall make his glorious voice to be heard and the wrath of his arm, to make a display with wrath and anger and devouring flame: he shall lighten terribly, and his wrath shall be as water and violent hail. Isaiah 30:30 LXX

For by the voice of the Lord the Assyrians shall be overcome, even by the stroke where with he shall smite them. Isaiah 30:31 LXX

In 2 Chronicles 29 Hezekiah is removing the instruments of the Assyrians from the temple.  However, the Levites returned to burning infants to Molech after Hezekiah was dead.

And it shall happen to him from every side, that they from whom their hope of assistance was, in which he trusted, themselves shall war against him in turn with drums and with harp. Isaiah 30:32 LXX

For thou shalt be required before thy time: has it been prepared for thee also to reign? nay, God has prepared for thee a deep trench, wood piled fire and much wood: the wrath of the Lord shall be as a trench kindled with sulphur. Isaiah 30:33 LXX

For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared; he hath made it deep and large:
........... the pile thereof is fire and much wood;
........... the breath (divine inspiration, spirit) of the Lord,
........... like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it. 30:33KJV


Edward thinks that hell annihialates the sinner: if so, why is there so much text about God punishing the evil for EVER AND EVER? Couldn't God have been as smart as we and just said: "The Evil will die like Rover."

Edward Fudge says that sinners are cast into the lak of fire THEN they are Executed: doesn't that insult God's grace? Cast into the Lake of Fire IS THE SECOND DEATH but the Spirit says they will suffer for ever and ever: Aions and Aions.

Secondly, PERISHING is not the same as being cast into hell as Lake of Fire.
Matthew 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee:
    for it is profitable for thee that
    one of thy members should perish,
    and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Pĕr-ĕo   I. To pass away, come to nothing; to vanish, disappear, be lost:
II. To pass away, to be destroyed, to perish
1. To perish, lose one's life, die (class.): non intellego, quamobrem, si vivere honeste non possunt, perire turpiter velint; Apollu_mi or apol-uō destroy utterly, kill, in Hom. mostly of death in battle, cease to exist, opp. gignesthai
6.07.11  6.17.11 6.20.11
Reviewing some of Edward Fudge's Annihilation Passages
We have added some Bible and history from clay tablets onward--in context. The Covenant with death (Isaiah 28 used by Paul to warn Corinth) has a long history beginning with clay tablets.  I have added some links to translations. The Gates of Hell were either in Babylon or on Mount Hermon where Jesus stood at the maws of the cave of Pan who is the eternal perverted half goat (cappella) as a beast always in conflict with the rational or spiritual mind.  It is very difficult not to think that this is not so old old-brain understanding that there are at least two species on earth: Cain (from a musical note) was OF that wicked one and Paul said that Eve was wholly seduced like a young bride.  Jubal who handled instruments meaning without authority has his counterpart in the Babylonian religious thought: that from which God removed Abraham in the only spiritual covenant culmated in being baptized into Christ (Gal 3) to becomes sons of Abraham as opposed to sons of the devil whom in the ancient accounts hated water. 

See Christ define the CENI in Jeremiah 23 specificially prophetic of people who speak on their own.
Is not my word like as a fire? saith the Lord;
        and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces? Jeremiah 23: 29
Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets,
        saith the Lord, that steal my words every one from his neighbour. Jeremiah 23: 30 
Blasphemy against the Spirit of Christ in the Prophets and Apostles.

Jer 23:14 I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing:
        they commit adultery, and walk in lies:
        they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness:
        they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.

The sticks and stones are mostly gone but the Sodom persona is still around.  John calls Jerusalem SODOM and it was a center for the worship of the starry host.  God sentenced David to Mount Zion but Solomon built his temple dedicated to fire and the stars on Mt. Moriah.  The Sodom persona exists in most religionism which is antithetical to being A School of the Word.

Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner,
giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh,
set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Ju.1:7

And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city,
which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. Re.11:8

This writer has no dogma to propose: the object is to look at the "proof text" within their context as a way to understand the whole context and not just the proof-text.  I am not concerned with whether this agrees or disagrees with the views of others. I have provided links to the original language and the literature of the period which informed men like Paul and John. This provides an almost endless web of comparative literature which will deprogram you from non-biblical sermons and songs and ticket price.

Jesus said that truth had been hidden in parables from the foundation of the world: that seems to be the fact in all of the "burning" passages.  By reading the whole story line and defining words and concepts of the time, the parable or metaphor content most often marks the pagan clergy who worked really hard to hide Christ's Word from the hungry and godly people. The PATTERNISM was taking place in Egypt, Greece, Canaan and Mesopotamia.  Especially in the burnt offering of goats with loud music (sound) of the Levites.
  • The human spirit is made into A holy spirit by request at baptism: Peter also called it A good conscience, consciousness or a co perception. This conversion according to Paul in 2 Corinthians 3 allows one to read BLACK text on BROWN paper when the Word was PREACHED by being READ.
  • The Devil--who speaks on his own--intends to use all of the hypocritic arts and crafts: preaching, singing, playing instruments and acting, to prevent disciples from being taught that which Jesus commanded to be taught.
  • In all of the "burning" or "hell" passages the metaphor speaks to angels of Satan using music as a most deceptive and addictive practice. The human spirit can be consumed of its values so that one is dead and still alive.
  • This began in the garden of Eden: Christ in the prophets identifies Lucifer the singing and harp playing prostitute. The serpent is defined as a "musical enchanter(ess).
Based on old surveys, most preachers do not believe in hell: that does not prevent them from USING the "metaphor" of hell in preaching, singing, playing, acting, lading and collecting--with no Scriptural command, example or necessary inference.

Whatever the truth, all of the proof-texts are couched within a broader story line which is given for our learning rather than lego bocks for constructing dogma.  Punishment compared to life is defined as "preventing further growth." Since God gave us spirit He supervises its growth--beginning with purging at baptism--and disciples for our short "time."

Other research papers: rough notes 

Isaiah 50 A Separate Paper
Malachi 3 defines music as marks of Sorcerers when Messiah came.
Malachi 4 defines the "baptism" of Spirit (Wind) and Fire for this Viper Race.
Mark 9 the Worm that Dieth Not.   A separate study the performing or hypocritic arts and crafts are signs of being dedicated to anathema: cannot be redeemed and must be burned.
1 Plato teaches elsewhere that the real punishment of sin is to be cut off from communion with the good.

Most of the "proof texts" are related to the "baptism of WIND and of Fire" and cannot be projected until after the final judgment.
What is the meaning of Time?

How does Biblical and Historical context define the Netherworld for the Evil

        Israel's Covenant with Death and Hell: The Gates of hell from Babylon Isaiah 14 6.20.11
        Israel's Pattern derived from the Fallen Angels Isaiah  28
        What class of people destine themselves to Hell
                Those who Refuse to Comply 
                Matthew 25
        What is the motive for denying the Bible and recorded history?
        End Times Signs Revelation 14; 18
                Revelation Harps: All of the "sounds like" are heard above spiritual Babylon
                        as signs of quick judgment
                The message for those "still among the living": 
another angel fly in the midst of heaven,
        having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth,


Caling Down God's Holy Fires Marked by Music
Isaiah Chapter Nine
Isaish 50 The Vipers
       The Smiters Invite the Fires on Themselves
       The Pluckers Invite the Fires on Themselves
       The Shamers Invite the Fires on Themselves
       The Confounders Invite the Fires on Themselves
       The Consumers Invite the Fires on Themselves

TIME: we mortals are crippled by not grasping God's view of time and eternity.  Eternity has no beginning and no ending but is made up of packets of time. There are words for "time" and words for "eternity."  An eternal priesthood has a termination date fixed with the Birth of Jesus.
Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,
        some to everlasting life,
        and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
H5769 ‛τlβm ‛τlβm o-lawm', o-lawm' From H5956 ; properly concealed, that is, the vanishing point; generally time out of mind (past or future), that is, (practically) eternity; frequentative adverbially (especially with prepositional prefix) always:—always (-s), ancient (time), any more, continuance, eternal, (for, [n-]) ever (-lasting, -more, of old), lasting, long (time), (of) old (time), perpetual, at any time, (beginning of the) world (+ without end). Compare H5331 , H5703
H5703 ‛ad ad From H5710 ; properly a (peremptory)  that is, (by implication) duration, in the sense of perpetuity (substantially as a noun, either with or without a preposition):—eternity, ever (-lasting, -more), old, perpetually, + world without end.
Daniel 12:6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
End H7093 qκts kates Contracted from H7112 (chop off) ; an extremity; adverbially (with prepositional prefix) after:— + after, (utmost) border, end, [in-] finite, X process.
Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried;
        but the wicked shall do wickedly:
        and none of the wicked shall understand;
        but the wise shall understand.

There are some things that have a termination.  There is no end or termination for the wicked as there is no termination for the saved. 

The wicked will neither understand nor rest: that in one time frame is marked by all of the rhetoric, singing and instrument playing Christ defined as hypocrites and Jesus assigned to the Scribes and Pharisees.  He spoke to them in parables so that they COULD NOT understand and flee the soon burning at Topheth or "hell."
An aion is the opposite of time. May it never be said that preachers can trump the Bible, the way the words are used, Albert Einstein or Stephen Hawkins. This is equivalent to using the Heisenberg in this "postmodern" world to prove that you can be certain about anything. Einstein and Heisenberg mocked that bit of philosophy.
Aiōn  means as long as the subject lasts: life, lifetime, generation, posterity, destiny forever, Eternity opposite khronos
Khronos , ho, 2. a definite time, period, with chronological accuracy, for a while, for a long or short time, lifetime, age,
Luke 1:70 is used to prove that aion is not eternal: However, the passage reads in most versions:

Luke 1:70 As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:

The "world" age began attacked as a packet to eternity past or however many packets of time where God has worked. The second point as the MARK of those not yet saved FROM Satan's influence is that He did not speak through the kings, Levites, priests, Scribes or Pharisees identified as hypocrites and liars.

Aesch. Ag. 538

[550] In such fear that now, in your own words, even deathgreat joy.
would be

Yes, all's well, well ended. Yet, of what occurred in the long years, one might well say that part fell out happily, and part in turn amiss. But who, unless he is a god, is free from suffering alldays? his

550hōs nun, to son , kai thanein pollē kharis.

eu gar pepraktai. tauta d' en pollō khronō
ta men tis an lexeien eupetōs ekhein,
ta d' aute kapimompha. tis de plēn theōn
hapant' apēmōn ton di' aiōnos khronon;

In the Bible the understanding is "everlasting" or "eternity" unless the context shows otherwise.  Specializing in listing the "otherwises" does not change the Bible and most church scholarship. We don't know what God knows: the fate of the Devil and his disciples is not happy nor is it annihilation.

Aiōnios  lasting for an age, aion perpetual, anōlethros  indestructable amoib-ē , , (ameibō) ba^sa^n-izō , requital, recompense,  As an adjective it means "everlasting" as in the everlasting God.
We may not know "how long is eternity" or the exact meaning of "a lake of fire" but the MARK of Satan and his agents is absolutely clear: they will always be founding all within their power to PREVENT others from hearing the undiluted Word of God "written for our learning."

Secondly, there is a close connection between performing arts used in connection with religion which erodes the human spirit Christ made into A holy spirit at baptism specificially to induct us into His school of the World.

In Amos and Isaiah 5 the effect of the wine, women and music in their religious spectacles and temples was that the people hungered and thirsted for the Word and could never find it.

A spirit which has not been tutored by Jesus Christ Himself would not be able to endure a holy or Wholly spiritual life without the lust of the eyes and ears of religious ceremonial.
Aeternus I. without beginning or end, eternal (sempiternus denotes what is perpetual, what exists as long as time endures, the eternal, that which is raised above all time,
        and can be measured only by œons
aiōnes, indefinite periods
        and keeps even pace with it; aeternus
Sempiternus is rather a mathematical, aeternus a metaphysical, designation of eternity,
An aion then is a small packet of time-space in which we live and which KEEPS PACE with the concept of eternity as without beginning or ending.
A. Of the past and future, eternal:
B. Of the future, everlasting, endless, immortal:
D. Spec. of objects of nature, which the ancients regarded as stable and perpetual, everlasting, eternal:
The Annihilationism passages speaking of the wicked are still TIMES which do not keep pace with God's everlasting plan.
Psalms 9:5 Thou hast rebuked the heathen,
        thou hast destroyed the wicked,
        thou hast put out their name for ever and ever.
Psalms 9:6 O thou enemy,
        destructions are come to a perpetual end:
        and thou hast destroyed cities;
        their memorial is perished with them.
If forgetting the name is for ever and ever (age after age) why is not being TORMENTED for ever and ever perpetual.  You cannot torment one annihiliated.

Our thoughts are not God's thoughts (Isaiah 55) and that is why He supplied all we need free of charge and outlawed our speaking our own (Isaiah 58).  Whatever comes into the imagination of a human being or however many memorials he has set up to be remembered, they all come to nothing. This DOES NOT SAY that the "memory" of the wicked person will perish.  They are simply decoupled from God's timeline and are turned over to the wicked spirits in heavenly places.
Of the Godly:
Lucr. 2.581
A tale, however beautifully wrought,
That's wide of reason by a long remove:
For all the gods must of themselves enjoy
Immortal aeons and supreme repose,
Withdrawn from our affairs, detached, afar:

Immune from peril and immune from pain,
Themselves abounding in riches of their own,
Needing not us, they are not touched by wrath
They are not taken by service or by gift.
Truly is earth insensate for all time;

Immortālis (inm- ), e, adj. in-mortalis, Imperishable, eternal, endless: like the gods, blessed, exceedingly happy: “
Aevum (archaic aevom ), everlasting, uninterrupted, never-ending time, eternity;
in a more restricted sense of a definite time, period, lifetime, life, age:
Of the Wicked:
Lucretius (98 - c. 55 BC): The Worship of Cybele
The Galli, the emasculate, since thus
They wish to show that men who violate
The majesty of the mother and have proved
Ingrate to parents are to be adjudged
Unfit to give unto the shores of light
A living progeny. The Galli come:
And hollow cymbals, tight-skinned tambourines
Resound around to bangings of their hands;

The fierce horns threaten with a raucous bray;
The tubed pipe excites their maddened minds
In Phrygian measures; they bear before them knives,
Wild emblems of their frenzy, which have power
The rabble's ingrate heads and impious hearts
To panic with terror of the goddess' might.
Words for everlasting have meaning within the context of a passage: you cannot collect all of the meanings and assign a "majority wins" dogma and then promote that as a hobby. Scripture is for our learning and not for judging. A disciple of Christ who has obeyed Christ to become a student simply is not consumed with God's right to dispose of His property.


All I know I read somewhere but Christ speaking through the prophets treats the realm of Satan's rule as a literal place of conscious existence.  When Lucifer was "created" he/she was cast as profane out of Godl's real because he taught people how to silence the message from God through the prophets and apostles--only. 

While much of prophecy is in parables (Matthew 13) and Isaiah is probably speaking of literal nations, the message we get is that those who have tried to silence the mouth of God are loosers. The KEY is that in most of these examples the "Lucifer" or Zoe Principle always uses music to make the unbelievable, believable.

Isaiah 14:9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations. 

Hell from beneath is provoked to meet thee: all the great ones that have ruled over the earth have risen up together against thee, they that have raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations Isaiah 14:9 LXX

Isaiah 14:10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

AII shall answer and say to thee, Thou also hast been taken, even as we, and thou art numbered amongst us. Isaiah 14:10 LXX

Isaiah 14:11Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms [maggots] cover thee.

-Sublīmis , B. In partic., of language, lofty, elevated, sublime (freq. in Quint.): “sublimia carmina,” Juv. 7, 28: “verbum,” Quint. 8, 3, 18:

Carmen , ĭnis, n. (old form cas-men , Varr. L. L. p. 86 Bip.) [Sanscr. ηasto declaim, praise; cf.: camilla, censeo], I. a tune, song; poem, verse; an oracular response, a prophecy; a form of incantation (cf.: cano, cantus, and canto).
5. A magic formula, an incantation:
6. On account of the very ancient practice of composing forms of religion and law in Saturnian verse, also a formula in religion or law, a form:
“barbaricum,” id. M. 11, 163.—With allusion to playing on the cithara:
     Apollinem) concordant carmina nervis,
     APOLLO and since he communicated oracles in verse,
            god of poetry and music,
presiding over the Muses
-Infernus , a, um, adj. infer,
I. lower, that which lies beneath

Thy glory has come down to Hades, and thy great mirth: under thee they shall spread corruption and the worm shall be thy covering. Isaiah 14:11 LXX

[11] detracta est ad inferos superbia tua concidit cadaver tuum subter te sternetur tinea et operimentum tuum erunt vermes

-Superbĭa  I. In a bad sense, loftiness, haughtiness, pride, arrogance 
2. Conceit, vanity: “legatos, velut ad ludibrium stolidae superbiae in senatum vocatos esse,” Liv. 45, 3, 3
Rudeness, discourtesy: “superbiam tuam accusant, quod negent te percontantibus respondere,” Cic. Fam. 7, 16, 3.— *

-ludībrĭum I. a mockery, derision, wantonness. . A laughing-stock, butt, jest, sport  B. A scoff, jest, sport: to reproach jestingly, scoff, such a drunkard as to be a standing jest, C. Abuse, violence done to a woman: in corporum ludibria deflere, Ex-tollo II. Trop., to raise, elevate, exalt: “orationem amplificationibus,” Quint. 12, 10, 62; cf.

The sin of the Pharisees was making long prayers, songs or sermons in order to collect money.

Orātĭo , ōnis, f. oro,  E. A prayer, an address to the Deity (eccl. Lat.): “respice ad orationem servi tui,” Vulg. 3 Reg. 8, 28: “per orationes Dominum rogantes,” id. 2 Macc. 10, 16: “pernoctans in oratione Dei,” id. Luc. 6, 12.—Also absol., prayer, the habit or practice of prayer: “perseverantes in oratione,” Vulg. Act. 1, 14: “orationi instate,” id. Col. 4, 2; cf. Gell. 13, 22, 1.
Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

The "Gates of Hell" were in ancient Babylon.  Whether real, legend or myth, the worship the Jews were abandoned to because of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai and then beyond redemption when the elders fired God and demanded a king like the nations: Christ in the prophets note that they waned to worship like the goyim or Gentiles.  This covenant is still in effect except for a small group who are the elect because they come together, gather or assembly as synagogue.  Synagogues and the Church in the wilderness repudiated all of the pagan superstition and devoted themselves to the Word of God (only).  In Revelation 17 the Babylonian mother of harlots uses lusted after "fruits" as speakers, singers and instrument players. John calls them sorcerers who HAD deceived the whole world once.  He says that they are cast alive (maybe now) into the lake of fire.  See the latin Mors below.

Those who use the patternism of the burnt offering of goats with the sounds of the Levite's instruments have MADE A COVENANT WITH DEATH because Christ says God had not commanded sacrifices or burnt offerings; If God abandones you to this neo-Babylonianism God mave have sent you commands (a spirit) as a strong delusion to force you to retore the "lying wonders" which defines any and all of the religious rituals claiming that they are from God.  Christ in Jeremiah 23 calls that blasphemy of the spirit OF Christ and there is no redemption.

See Descent of Inanna: the concept of hell is articulated on clay tablets some 3,000 years old when Moses was born for the mother of the "gates"

This is condemned by Christ through Ezekiel 8.  This is the same Christ who named hypocrites as speakers, singers and instrument players: Jesus called them Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites.  They did not deserve to know the truth and therefore Jesus spoke to them in parables (Matthew 13).  Jacob warned us NOT to make a covenant with the Levi tribe NOR to attend their assemblies.  And yet, those who deny hell build on the foundation of the Levi tribe. Jacob continued in Isaiah 49 to prophesy of the son of Judah: the Lion of the Tribe of Judah.  Here we see Inanna resting on the Lion.  The women worshipping Tammuz while the men bow to the sun in the east is THE meaning and mark of Easter as a religious operation with claimed effects.

The Israelites being turned over to worship the starry host was a national worship with the netherworld. Christ in the prophets directly COMMANDS what most religious institutions use for prophet and manipulation in a cultic sense. For instance, Paul used Isaiah 28 to repudiate the singing out of their own spirits in Corinth. Christ drew the contrast between the Jewish Covenant with Death and the Rest available when Jesus discredited and removed the power from the Jewish sacrifician system:

The Jewish system all celebrative systems use as a pattern:
Isaiah 28:15 Because ye have said,
        We have made a covenant with death,
        and with hell are we at agreement;
        when the overflowing scourge shall pass through,
        it shall not come unto us:
        for we have made lies our refuge,
        and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
Colossians 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness,
        and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Christ made it a CERTAINTY that believers who have been baptized into the School of Christ WILL NOT DO.
Isaiah 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
        Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone,
        a precious corner stone, a sure foundation:
        he that believeth shall not make haste.
Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness,
        and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Because the life of the God-given spirit lives in a continuum, its suffering and "burning" begins the moment you reject the Command to be baptized.  Christ promises you A holy spirit or A good conscience and
In Matthew 25 below the torment is "making haste" or supplicating or performing prayers or songs or rhetoric or body movement which cannot be stopped because they have REQUESTED that by their lives.

Jesus died to give us REST from "making haste": Rest or the Greek Pauo means STOP thes speaking, singing, clapping and lack of reverence in General.

If you are being led into so-called worship services you are VIOLATING direct commands and are under the control of Satan and blasphemers.

The Levi tribe abandoned to worship the starry host performed "service" meaning hard bondage: there was a constant stream of on-hand professional prayers, singers, instrument players, slaughtering innocent animals and still the torment never ended.  On the other hand, the godly thread attended "school of the Word" as the rested.

Festīno  hasten to celebrate, festinat oratio,”  Fescennine songs.  So-called "praise songs" are factually a sexual approach to God.

Opere festines,”
Cat. 61, 207 -Catalus 61

Your lighted links, 0 boys, wave high:
I see the flamey veil draw nigh:
Hie, sing in merry mode and cry
"0 Hymen Hymenaeus io,
0 Hymen Hymenaeus!"

Lest longer mute tongue stays that joys
In festal jest, from Fescennine,
Nor yet deny their nuts to boys,
He-Concubine! who learns in fine
His lordling's love is fled.

Throw nuts to boys thou idle all
He-Concubine! wast fain full long
With nuts to play: now pleased as thrall
Be thou to swell Talasios' throng:
He-Concubine throw nuts.

2Th. 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan
        with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th. 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness
        in them that perish;

Jeremiah 23.[26] How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies, even the prophets of the deceit of their own heart?

[26] usquequo istud in corde est prophetarum vaticinantium mendacium etprophetantium seductiones cordis sui

Prŏphēta and prŏphētes , ae, m., = prophētēs,
I. [select] a foreteller, soothsayer
“Aegyptius, propheta primarius,”

1Chronicles 25:1 David and the army officers selected some of the sons of Asaph, Heman, and Jeduthun to prophesy as they played stringed instruments and cymbals.1 The following men were assigned this responsibility:

PātĭcĭnorA. To sing or celebrate as a poet: “Agrigentinum quidem doctum quendam virum carminibus Graecis vaticinatum ferunt, quae in rerum naturā totoque mundo constarent quaeque moverentur, ea contrahere amicitiam, dissipare discordiam,” Cic. Lael. 7, 24: Ps. Parricida ... Sacrilege ... Perjure. Ba. Vetera vaticinamini, you're singing the old song, Plaut. Ps. 1, 3, 129

Mendācĭum , ii, n. mendax, B. Esp., a fable, fiction (Opposite. historic truth): “poλtarum,” Curt. 3, 1, 4
Jer 23:17 They say still unto them that despise me,
        The Lord hath said, Ye shall have peace;
        and they say unto every one that walketh
        after the imagination of his own heart,
        No evil shall come upon you.

Blasphēm-eō , pf.
A. “beblasphēmēka” D.18.10speak profanely of sacred things, “eis theous” Pl.R.381e; offer rash prayers, Id.Alc.2.149c; b. kata tinosutter imprecations against, Aeschin.1.180.

        because they received not the love of the truth,
        that they might be saved.

Acts 2:41 So those who accepted his message were baptized, and that day about three thousand people were added.

2Th. 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

ŏpĕrātĭo , ōnis, f. operor, I. a working, work, labor, operation, A religious performance, service, or solemnity, a bringing of offerings: operationes denicales, offerings,

Energ-eia , , force, of an engine, D.S.20.95 (but, mechanism, 'action, magical operation, “hiera e.”

Energy Spoude A. haste, speed, spoudēn ekhein make haste, II. zeal, pains, trouble, effort, exert oneself, take pains, be eager, zeal for the conflicting arguments,  spoudai erōtōn erotic enthusiasms,

approve, applaud, commend, “muthon e. presbuteroisi” IV. of Rhapsodists, recite, declaim publicly,  Pl.Ion536d, 541e.

Pind. O. 1 Come, take the Dorian lyre down from its peg, if the splendor of Pisa and of Pherenicus placed your mind under the influence of sweetest thoughts, [20] when that horse ran swiftly beside the Alpheus, not needing to be spurred on in the race, and brought victory to his master, the king of Syracuse who delights in horses. His glory shines in the settlement of fine men founded by Lydian Pelops, [25] with whom the mighty holder of the earth Poseidon fell in love, when Clotho took him out of the pure cauldron, furnished with a gleaming ivory shoulder. Yes, there are many marvels, and yet I suppose the speech of mortals beyond the true account can be deceptive, stories adorned with embroidered lies; [30] and Grace, who fashions all gentle things for men, confers esteem and often contrives to make believable the unbelievable.

Isaiah 28:17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, 
        and righteousness to the plummet:
        and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies,
        and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.

Isaiah 28:18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled,
            and your agreement with hell shall not stand;
            when the overflowing scourge shall pass through,
            then ye shall be trodden down by it.
Here are some links to the pagan GATES which should be put down by now  Plat. Symp. 183a    Hor. Carm. 3.10.20    Prop. 1.16.22   Met. 14.709

See Catullus 63  Notes and Commentary.  Paul warned about this cult in Galatians 5

The Covenant used to impose instruments was the slaying and burning of goats with the loud instrumental noise of the Levites.  From Babylonian tablets onward, hell has been a place of suffering for those whose lives consisted of making others to suffer.
I. (With the notion of the per predominating.) To strike through and through, to ∫ or pierce through (syn.: percello, transfig
b. To strike, play a musical instrument (poet.): “lyram,” Ov. Am. 3, 12, 40; Val. Fl. 5, 10

Mors to put to death, kill, assassination, to throw away lives, to die in vain,
B. Personified.
1. Mors , a goddess, the daughter of Erebus and Nox, Cic. N. D. 3, 17, 44; Verg. A. 11, 197; Hyg. Fab. praef.—
2. (Eccl. Lat.) = eum qui habebat mortis imperium, id est, diabolum, Vulg. Heb. 2, 14; id. Isa. 28, 15; cf.: “ero mors tua, o mors,” id. Hos. 13, 14; id. Apoc. 6, 8
D. Esp. (eccl. Lat.): “mors secunda,” the second death, future punishment, Vulg. Apoc. 2, 11; 20, 6; 14: “mors alone,” id. 1 Joh. 5, 16; also spiritual death, that of a soul under the dominion of sin: “stimulus mortis peccatum est,” id. 1 Cor. 15, 56; Rom. 8, 6 et saep.; cf. Lact. 7, 10 fin.
Infernus , aII. In partic., underground, belonging to the Lower Regions, infernal: “rex,” Pluto, Verg. A. 6, 106: “Juno,” Proserpine, id. ib. 6, 138: “sedes,” id. ib. 8, 244: “tenebrae,” id. ib. 7, 325: “infernas umbras carminibus elicere,” to raise the dead by magical incantations, Tac. A. 2, 28: “palus,” the Styx, Ov. F. 2, 610: ratis, Charon's boat, Prop. 3, 5, 14 (4, 4, 14 Mόll. infernas rates): rota, Ixion's wheel, id. 1, 9, 20: sorores, the Furies, Claud. ap. Ruf. 1, 27: “aspectus,” Tac. G. 43
Carmen , ĭnis, n. (old form cas-men , Varr. L. L. p. 86 Bip.) [Sanscr. ηasto declaim, praise; cf.: camilla, censeo],
a tune, song; poem, verse; an oracular response, a prophecy; a form of incantation (cf.: cano, cantus, and canto).5. A magic formula, an incantation: MALVM, Fragm. XII. Tab. ap. Plin. 28, 2, 4, § 17; cf. “Fragm. XII. Tab. 8, 1, a. ap. Wordsw. Fragm. and Spec. p. 260: polleantne aliquid verba et incantamenta carminum,” Plin. 28, 2, 3, § 10: carmina vel caelo possunt deducere lunam; “Carminibus Circe socios mutavit Ulixi,” Verg. E. 8, 69 sq.; so id. A. 4, 487;
Circē , ēs cf. Charis (Grace) the daughter of the Sun and of Perse or Perseis, sister of Ζetes, a sea-nymph, distinguished for her magic arts, whose abode, after her flight from Colchis, was said to be in the region of the promontory of Circeii, in Latium, Verg. A. 3.386
Verg. Ecl. 8 DAMON
“Rise, Lucifer, and, heralding the light,
bring in the genial day, while I make moan
fooled by vain passion for a faithless bride,
for Nysa, and with this my dying breath
call on the gods, though little it bestead—
the gods who heard her vows and heeded not.
‘Begin, my flute, with me Maenalian lays.’
Flăgellum , i, n. dim. flagrum,
I. a whip, scourge; more severe than scutica.
II. Trop., the lash or stings of conscience (poet.), Lucr. 3, 1019; Juv. 13, 195; cf. “of the goad of love,” Hor. C. 3, 26, 11.

Hebrews 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats,
        and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean,
        sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey;
        whether of sin unto death,
        or of obedience unto righteousness?

Hebrews 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ,
        who through the eternal Spirit [His spirit]
        offered himself without spot to God,
Romans 6:17 But God be thanked,
         that ye were the servants of sin, 
         but ye have obeyed from
the heart
         that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

        purge your conscience from dead works to
the living God?
Romans 6:18 Being then made free from sin,
      ye became the servants of righteousness.
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16.[15] et dixit eis euntes in mundum universum praedicate evangelium omni creaturae
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Mark 16.[16] qui crediderit et baptizatus fuerit salvus erit qui vero non crediderit condemnabitur
Katakrino anyone whom the oracle has condemned or who by judicial process has been condemned to forfeit his property,
II. as pr. n.,
Death, “Hupnō . . kasignētō Thanatoio” Il.14.231, cf. S.Aj.854, Ph.797, etc.; “monos theōn gar Th. ou dōrōn era” A.Fr.161; hon ion teketo Th. S.Tr. 834; character in E.Alc.

Tha^na^t-aō , Desiderat. of thanein,
A. desire to die, Pl.Phd.64b, Ax.366c, Alex.211, J.BJ3.7.18, Gal.8.190, Max.Tyr.26.9, Philostr.VA7.31.
II. to be moribund,


Apist-eō , fII. [select] = apeitheō, disobey, to be disobedient, but if they refuse to comply, to be faithless
Believeth not or Apistos means "refuses to comply" as well as marked as a traitor.  Non crediderit
means to refuse to place confidence in the direct connection between baptism and salvation
Xen. Hiero 7.1 And, for myself, I count him a happy man who is honoured thus;
        for I perceive that, instead of being exposed to treason,
        he is an object of solicitude, lest harm befall him,
        and he lives his life unassailed by fear and malice and danger,
        and enjoys unbroken happiness.

        But what is the despot's lot? I tell you, Simonides,
        he lives day and night like one condemned by the judgment of all men to die for his wickedness
Jesus of Nazareth in His post-resurrected state was able to live with the One Eternal God without fear.

Mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them,
            he was received up into heaven,
           and sat on the right hand of God.
Those who in effect call "liars" Christ in prophecy, the role of John, the exaple and direct command of Jesus, the commands of Paul and Peter and the almost universal understanding of Scripture will not be there: they will be where they wanted to be.

 God gives ua A holy spirit only after baptism (Acts 2:38) which is A good conscience in 1 Peter 3:21.
Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

[46] et ibunt hii in supplicium aeternum iusti autem in vitam aeternam

IN THE MORNING: I will bet that someone lights the early fires of hell in all so-called worship rituals people perform so they can fleece the widows.

Supplicium bending the knees, kneeling down; hence, humbly begging or entreating; humble, submissive, beseeching, suppliant, supplicant (class.; syn.: humilis, submissus).
II. To receive punishment; hence, punishment, penalty, torture, torment, pain, distress, suffering (class. and freq.; usu. of the penalty of death; syn. poena).

When God turned Israel over to worship the starry host much of the hard work consisted in singing and playing instruments.  All pagans believed that they could appease or neutralize God's anger by feeding, clothing, housing and entertaining him.
kolazō , Performing religious rituals is a punishment for which you must pay too much. use your proud words in reproving them,  be lengthy, tedious, to be magnified, exaggerated, 4. raise the price of, to be deceived, creating desire, yearning, lust including
A.  pleon-azō (rarely pleionazō , superfluous II. of persons, go beyond bounds, takeclaim too much,

B. rhētōr kek. [muthōn rhētores”] Poll.6.149; Muthos
public speaking, 2. fiction Opposite logos, historic truth), Pi.O.1.29 (pl.), N.7.23Pl.Phd.61b, Prt.320c, 324d, etc.

C.  “iskhus [Might and right-Goose Clapping] k. es rhuthmous” Philostr.VS1.17.3; also of an athlete, aperittos ta muōdē kai kek. Id.Gym.31.
I. measured motion, time, whether in sound or motion, to
“logoi meta mousikēs kai rhuthmōn pepoiēmenoi” [poetry: anything you make or compose]  Isoc.15.46; of Prose rhythm, Arist.Rh.1408b29,
2. special phrases: en rhuthmō in time, of dancing, marching
or (pl.),
kol-a^sis , eōs, , 2. chastisement, correction, Hp.Praec.5, Pl.Ap.26a, al., Th.1.41; opp. timōria, Arist.Rh.1369b13; of divine retribution, Ev.Matt.25.46, al.: pl., Pl.Prt.323e, al., Phld.Ir.p.52 W.

Plat. Prot. 323d 323d] In all cases of evils which men deem to have befallen their neighbors by nature or fortune, nobody is wroth with them or reproves or lectures or punishes them, when so afflicted, with a view to their being other than they are; one merely pities them. Who, for instance, is such a fool as to try to do anything of the sort to the ugly, the puny, or the weak? Because, I presume, men know that it is by nature and fortune that people get these things, the graces of life and their opposites. But as to all the good things that people are supposed to get by application and practice and teaching,

[323e] where these are lacking in anyone and only their opposite evils are found, here surely are the occasions for wrath and punishment and reproof. One of them is injustice, and impiety, and in short all that is opposed
Aiōnios , on, also a, on Pl. Ti.37d, Ep.Heb.9.12: A. lasting for an ageaiōn” 11), perpetual, eternal

If punishment just means Annihilation then why would one speak of everlasting Annihilation?

Luke 16:24 And he cried and said (suppllicium), Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus,
        that he may dip [bapsē ] the tip of his finger in water,
        and cool my tongue; [abluo quench, cool passion, spirit]
        for I am tormented in this flame.

Baptism and crucifixion means to cool the passions of the flesh. To recrucify Christ means to arouse the passion and pride while we claim to be students gathered to hear the Word of Christ (only).
The tormented man fits the pattern of Matthew 25:46 supplicium punished and asking for a tiny drop of water. Calling Christ in the prophets, the direct commands of Jesus and the disciples liars may be the subconscious motive for trying to neutralize hell.
Hebrews 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
        which are written in heaven,
        and to God the Judge of all,
        and to the spirits of just men made
Hebrews 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant,
        and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Hebrews 12:25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh.
        For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth,
        much more shall not we escape,
        if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
Hebrews 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying,
        Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
Hebrews 12:27 And this word, Yet once more,
        signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken,
        as of things that are made,
        that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
Hebrews 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved,
let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.


Revelation Chapter 14

Revelation 14:8 And there followed another angel,
        saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city,
        because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
Dem. 19 200  then the junior clerk, doing the dirty work of public offices for a few shillings a month: and at last, not so long ago, the parasite of the greenrooms, eking out by sponging what you earned as a player of trumpery parts! What is the life you will claim, and where have you lived it, when such is too clearly the sort of life you really have lived? And then the assurance of the man! Bringing another man1 before this court on a charge of unnatural crime! However, I will let that go for the present. First read these depositions.“ Depositions ”

khorēg-ion , to,
A. = khorēgeion 1, D.19.200, Poll.4.106. III. (in Dor. form khoragion ) stage-building in a theatre, BGU1028.21

potizō , Att. fut. Gp.17.12.3: (potos):—A. give to drink, “akrēton potisas” Hp.Aph.7.46; “epotisen . . ho iatros to pharmakon” Arist.Ph.199a34, cf. Ruf.Fr.118; “oinon hupozugiois”
thu_mo-phthoros , on,
(ii A. D.).
A. destroying the soul, life-destroying, “pharmaka” Od.2.329 (so, metaph. “grapsas en pinaki thumophthora polla” Il.6.169); “ios” Nic.Th.140 (v.l. guiophth-).
2. heart-breaking, tēn d' akhos amphekhuthē th. Od.4.716; “kamatos” 10.363; “peniē” Hes.Op.717; persons, troublesome, annoying, Od.19.323; cf. thumoboros.
pharma^kon [v. sub fin.], to, Pi.P.3.52; “paiōnia” A.Ag.848; “khrēsimon” Pl.R.382c; “thanasima”
3. enchanted potion, philtre: hence, charm, spell, Od.4.220 sq., Ar.Pl.302, Theoc.2.15, PSI1.64.20 (i B. C.); “pharmakois ton andr' emēnen” Ar.Th.561; toiauta ekhō ph. such charms have I, Hdt.3.85, cf. Apoc.9.21.
Paiōn-ios , a, on,
A. belonging to Paeon or medicine, healing, kheir, kheires, A.Supp.1066 (lyr.), S.Ph.1345, Ar.Ach.1223; “pharmaka” A.Ag.848; “eukhai” Id.Fr.144: in later Prose, Jul.Or.8.240b: c. gen., “khrusos erōtos aei paiōnios” AP 9.420 (Antip.):—fem. paiōniassophiē, healing art, medicine, ib.11.382.6 (Agath.); also paiōnis tekhnē, S.E.M.1.51; cf. paionios.
2. Subst. Paiōnios , ho, healer, c. gen., S.Tr.1208; Paiōnia, epith. of Athena, Paus.1.2.5, etc.
b. Paiōnion , to, hospital, Crates Com.15.3 (also “Paiōneion” Phot.).
c. name of a pill, Gal.13.242.
d. Paiōnia , ta, festival of Paeon, Ar.Ach.1213.
II. kelados ou p. unlike a song of victory, A.Pers.605.
Pharma^kos (on the accent v. Hdn.Gr.1.150), ho, ,
A. poisoner, sorcerer, magician, LXXEx.7.11 (masc.), Ma.3.5 (fem.), Apoc.21.8, 22.15.
Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice,
        If any man worship the beast and his image,

        and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Revelation 14. 9 Kai allos aggelos tritos ēkolouthēsen autois legōn en phōnē megalē Ei tis proskunei to thērion kai tēneikona autou, kai lambanei kharagma epi tou metōpou autou ē epi tēn kheira autou,

Thērion, to (in form Dim. of thēr), A. wild animal, esp. of such as are hunted Trag. only in Satyric drama,
III. as a term of reproach, beast, creature, “ō deilotaton su thērion” Ar.Pl.439, cf. Eq.273; “kolaki, deinō thēriō” Pl.Phdr.240b; “Krētes, kaka th.” Epimenid.1; dusnouthetēton th., of poverty, Men. Georg.78; “ mousikē aei ti kainon thērion tiktei” Anaxil.27, cf. Eup.132; ti de, ei autou tou thēriou ēkousate; said by Aeschines of Demosthenes, Plin.Ep.2.3.10; th. sunestiōmenon, of woman, Secund. Sent.8.
IV. Astron., the constellation Lupus,
Plato Sympasium 203d
thēreutēs deinos
. “A mighty hunter,” a very Nimrod. For the notion of the chase in erotics, cp. the use of helein and diōkein in 182 E, etc., and of thēra in Soph. 222 D tōn erōntōn thēra (cp. thērōmai in Isocr. Hel. 219 D)
“ mousikē aei ti kainon thērion tiktei” means a new style of singing or drama
Bestĭa , ae, f. perh. akin to fera and to belua,
2. As a term of reproach (cf. belua and our beast): “mala tu es bestia,” Plaut. Bacch. 1, 1, 21; id. Poen. 5, 5, 13.—And, humorously, of the odor of the armpits (cf. ala and caper), Cat. 69, 8
Cănis (cănes
a. A shameless, vile person, Plaut. Most. 1, 1, 40; Ter. Eun. 4, 7, 33 Donat. ad loc.; Hor. Epod. 6, 1; cf. id. S. 2, 2, 56; Petr. 74, 9; Suet. Vesp. 13. —
Kharag-ma kha^, atos, to, (kharassō) A. any mark engraved, imprinted, or branded, kh. ekhidnēs the serpent's mark, i. e. its bite, sting, S.Ph. 267;
3. metaph., mark, stamp, character, “to tēs monados sēmantikon kh.” Theol.Ar.6.
4. endorsement, Arch.Pap.1.85.

Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God,
        which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation;
        and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels,
        and in the presence of the Lamb:
Eur. Ba. 215  I happened to be at a distance from this land, when I heard of strange evils throughout this city, that the women have left our homes in contrived Bacchic rites, and rush about in the shadowy mountains, honoring with dances [220] this new deity Dionysus, whoever he is. I hear that mixing-bowls stand full in the midst of their assemblies, and that they each creep off different ways into secrecy to serve the beds of men, on the pretext that they are Maenads worshipping; [225] but they consider Aphrodite before Bacchus.

And they say that some stranger has come, a sorcerer, a conjuror from the Lydian land, [235] fragrant in hair with golden curls, having in his eyes the wine-dark graces of Aphrodite.
Goēs , ētos, ho,
A. sorcerer, wizard, Phoronis 2, Hdt.2.33,4.105, Pl.R. 380d, Phld.Ir.p.29 W.; “g. epōdos Ludias apo khthonos” E.Ba.234, cf. Hipp.1038; prob. f.l. for boēsi Hdt.7.191.
pharma^k-eus , eōs, ho,
A. poisoner, sorcerer, S.Tr.1140, Pl.Smp.203d, etc.; “gnēsioi sophistai kai ph.” Jul.Or.6.197d.

, ou, ho, A. master of one's craft, adept, expert, of diviners, Hdt.2.49; of poets, “meletan sophistais prosbalon” Pi.I.5(4).28, cf. Cratin.2; of musicians, “sophistēs . . parapaiōn khelun” A.Fr.314, cf. Eup.447, Pl.Com. 140; sophistē Thrēki (sc. Thamyris) E.Rh.924, cf. Ath.14.632c: with modal words added, “hoi s. tōn hierōn melōn”
3. later of the rhētores, Professors of Rhetoric, and prose writers of the Empire, such as Philostratus and Libanius, Suid.; “Apollōnidē sophistē”
Epōd-os , on, (epadō) chorus or Burden
But here is another wonder—I see Teiresias the soothsayer in dappled fawn-skins [250] and my mother's father—a great absurdity—raging about with a thyrsos. I shrink, father, from seeing your old age devoid of sense. Won't you cast away the ivy? Grandfather, will you not free your hand of the thyrsos? [255] You persuaded him to this, Teiresias. Do you wish, by introducing another new god to men, to examine birds and receive rewards for sacrifices? If your gray old age did not defend you, you would sit in chains in the midst of the Bacchae, [260] for introducing wicked rites. For where women have the delight of the grape-cluster at a feast, I say that none of their rites is healthy any longe
Thu_moō , A. make angry, provoke, LXX Ho.12.14(15): once in Trag., “hōste thumōsai phrenas” E.Supp.581. restive, Id.Ant. 477, X.Eq.1.10; thumousthai eis keras vent fury with the horns, Virgil's irasci in cornua, E.Ba.743; cf. “aoidos es keras tethumōtai”

Kera^s , to, Ep. gen. Kera^os, Att. contr. kerōs; Ep. dat. kera^i (elided) or kerai or
2. of musical instruments, horn for blowing, “sēmēnai kerati” X.An.2.2.4, cf. Arist.Aud.802a17; also, the Phrygian flute, because it was tipped with horn (cf. Poll.4.74), “aulein k.” Luc.DDeor.12.1; “kai kerati men aulein Turrēnoi nomizousi”

Horns are for sending signals: not to silence the Voice of Jesus Christ:
Sēmainō, 2. abs., give signs, phthoggos, phōs s., A.Supp.245, Ag.293; “ho logos sēmainetō” S.Tr.345; s. kapnō make signal, A.Ag.497
Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked:
        for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Galatians 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; (of the flesh)
        5356. phthora, fthor-ah΄; from 5351; decay,
        i.e. ruin (spontaneous or inflicted,
        literally or figuratively): — corruption, destroy, perish.
but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
Galatians 6:9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
2. in war or battle, give the signal of attack, etc., Th.2.84, etc.; in full, “s. salpiggi” And.1.45, X.An. 4.2.1, Achae.37.3; “s. kerati hōs anapauesthai” X.An.2.2.4: c. acc., s. anakhōrēsin give a signal for retreat, Th.5.10; “epeidan ho salpigktēs sēmēnē to polemikon”
Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up
        for ever [aiōn] and ever:  [aiōn]
        and they have no rest day nor night,
        who worship the beast and his image,
        and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Kapnos , ho, , kapnou skia, of things worth nothing, grammatōn kapnoi learned trifles, E.Hipp.954; “kapnous . . kai skias” metaph. also of envy, hudōr kapnō pherein to throw water on the smoking embers, Pi.N.1.24: prov., es auto to pur ek tou kapnou biazomenos 'out of the frying-pan into the fire
They have no rest day or night: sound like your "ministry system?"
, poet. amp-, eōs, ,
A. repose, rest, Mimn.12.2, Pi.N.7.52, Hp.VM 11, X.Lac.12.6: esp. relaxation, recreation, Pl.Ti.59c, X.Cyr.7.5.47.
2. c. gen. rei, rest from a thing, “kakōn” Th.4.20; “polemou” X. Hier.2.11; “kakōn” Epicur.Ep.3p.61U.; “leitourgias” PFlor.57.56.
3. Rhet., cadence of a period, Hermog.Id.1.1, al.
Xen. Hiero 2.11 Once again, to private citizens a truce or peace brings rest from war;
        but despots are never at peace with the people subject to their despotism,
        and no truce can ever make a despot confident.

Rest from:
Leitourg-ia III. public service of the gods, “hai pros tous theous l.” Arist.Pol.1330a13; “hai tōn theōn therapeiai kai l.” D.S.1.21, cf. UPZ17.17 (ii B.C.), PTeb.302.30 (i A.D.), etc.; the service or ministry of priests, LXX Nu.8.25, Ev.Luc.1.23.

A. service, attendance:
I. of persons, th. tōn theōn service paid to the gods
aguiatides th. worship of Apollo Agyieus, E.Ion187
apodidonai tois theois” Arist.Pol.1329a32;

Eur. Ion 187 Chorus
Not only in our holy Athens [185] are there halls of the gods with beautiful columns, and worship of Apollo who guards the streets; but also in the house of Loxias, Leto's son, there is a light of two countenances, with lovely eyes.

[190] Look! come see, the son of Zeus is killing the Lernean Hydra with a golden sickle; my dear, look at it!

Plat. Rep. 363d they entertain the time henceforth with wine, as if the fairest meed of virtue were an everlastingdrunk. And others extend still further the rewards of virtue from the gods. For they say that the children's children1 of the pious and oath-keeping man and his race thereafter never fail. Such and such-like are their praises of justice.
        But the impious and the unjust they bury in mud 2 in the house of Hades
        and compel them to fetch water in a sieve,3 and, while they still live,

1 Kern, ibid., quotes Servius ad Virgil, Aeneid iii. 98 “et nati natorum” and opines that Homer took Iliad xx. 308 from Orpheus.

2 Cf. Zeller, Phil. d. Gr. i. pp. 56-57, 533 D, Phaedo 69 C, commentators on Aristophanes Frogs 146. defines hell

3  Cf. my note on Horace, Odes iii. 11. 22, and, with an allegorical application, Gorgias 493 B.

Hor. Carm. 3.11

Come, Mercury, by whose minstrel spell
Amphion raised the Theban stones,
Come, with thy seven sweet strings, my shell,
Thy “diverse tones,”

Nor vocal once nor pleasant, now
To rich man's board and temple dear:
Put forth thy power, till Lyde bow
Her stubborn ear.

Let Lyde hear those maidens' guilt,
Their famous doom, the ceaseless drain
Of outpour'd water, ever spilt,
And all the pain

Reserved for sinners, e'en when dead:
Those impious hands, (could crime do more?)
Those impious hands had hearts to shed
Their bridegrooms' gore!

One only, true to Hymen's flame,
Was traitress to her sire forsworn:
That splendid falsehood lights her name
Through times unborn.

Plat. Rep. 2.363e they bring them into evil repute, and all the sufferings that Glaucon enumerated as befalling just men who are thought to be unjust, these they recite about the unjust, but they have nothing else to say.1 Such is the praise and the censure of the just and of the unjust.

“Consider further, Socrates, another kind of language about justice and injustice

1 Plato teaches elsewhere that the real punishment of sin is to be cut off from communion with the good.Theaetetus 176 D-E, Laws 728 B, 367 A 

Plat. Theaet. 176e  Socrates
Two patterns, my friend, are set up in the world, the divine, which is most blessed, and the godless, which is most wretched. But these men do not see that this is the case, and their silliness and extreme foolishness blind them to the fact that
177a through their unrighteous acts
        they are made like the one and unlike the other.

They therefore pay the penalty for this by living a life that conforms to the pattern they resemble; and if we tell them that, unless they depart from their “cleverness,”
        the blessed place that is pure of all things evil
        will not receive them after death,
        and here on earth they will always live the life like themselves—
        evil men associating with evil—
when they hear this, they will be so confident in their unscrupulous cleverness that they will think our words the talk of fools.

Very true, Socrates.

Plat. Laws 5.728b everyone who acts thus is treating most dishonorably and most disgracefully that most divine of things, his soul. Hardly anyone takes account of the greatest “judgment” (as men call it) upon evil-doing;
        that greatest judgment is this,—
        to grow like unto men that are wicked, and, in so growing,
        to shun good men and good counsels and cut oneself off from them,
but to cleave to the company of the wicked and follow after them; and he that is joined to such men inevitably acts and is acted upon in the way that such men bid one another to act.

[728c] Now such a resultant condition is not a “judgment” (for justice and judgment are things honorable) , but a punishment, an infliction that follows on injustice; both he that undergoes this and he that undergoes it not are alike wretched

Here the way to escape whatever!

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints:
         here are they that keep the commandments of God,
         and the faith of Jesus.
Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write,
        Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth:
        Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours;
        and their works do follow them.
Revelation 17-18

Lucretius (98 - c. 55 BC): The Worship of Cybele
Wherefore great Mother of gods, and Mother of beasts,
And parent of man hath she alone been named.
Her hymned the old and learned bards of Greece....
Do name Idaean , giving her
Escort of Phrygian bands, since first, they say,
Rev. 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

From out those regions 'twas that grain began
Through all the world. To her do they assign
The Galli, the emasculate, since thus
They wish to show that men who violate
The majesty of the Mother and have proved
Ingrate to parents are to be adjudged
Unfit to give unto the shores of light
A living progeny. The Galli come:

When Attis, spurious woman, had thus chanted to her comity, the chorus straightway shrills with trembling tongues, the light tambour booms, the concave cymbals clang, and the troop swiftly hastes with rapid feet to verdurous Ida.

Then raging wildly, breathless, wandering, with brain distraught, hurries Attis with her tambour, their leader through dense woods, like an untamed heifer shunning the burden of the yoke: and the swift Gallae press behind their speedy-footed leader
Rev. 18:14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.

THUS hath the Lord God shewed unto me: and behold a basket of summer fruit. Amos 8:1

And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the Lord unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more. Amos 8:2

Keleb (h3611) keh'leb; from an unused root mean. to yelp, or else to attack; a dog; hence (by euphemism) a male prostitute: - dog.

For dogs have compassed me: the assembly [multitude, swarm] of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. Ps.22:16

And hollow cymbals, tight-skinned tambourines
Resound around to bangings of their hands;
The fierce horns threaten with a raucous bray;
The tubed pipe excites their maddened minds
Rev. 18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
In Phrygian measures; they bear before them knives,
Wild emblems of their frenzy, which have power
The rabble's ingrate heads and impious hearts
To panic with terror of the goddess' might.
Rev. 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
Rev. 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.  See Sorcerers above
Thos who are cast alive into the lake of fire

Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken,
         and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him,
         with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast,
         and them that worshipped his image.
        These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them
        was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone,
        where the beast and the false prophet are,
        and shall be tormented day and night for ever [aiōnas] and ever. [aiōnōn.]
Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.
        This is the second death.
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
pseudo-prophētēs , ou, ho, A. [select] false, lying prophet, J.AJ9.6.6, al., 2 Ep.Pet.2.1,

2Pet. 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you:
        whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

This is anyone who fabricates sermons or songs when Jesus did all of the expounding free of charge.
Empor-euomai, 2. to be a merchant, traffic, Th.7.13, X.Vect.3.3, etc.; “logoisin” Com.Adesp.269: c. acc., trade in, “gēn” LXX Ge.34.21.

A. love of knowledge, pursuit there of, speculation
Thei-azō , (theios A) A. to be inspired, frenzied, hoposoi autous theiasantes epēlpisan as many as made them hope by divinations, Th.8.1; th. kai theophoreitai is divinely inspired, Ph.1.479; hoposoi teletais etheiazonobtained inspiration through ritual

2 Peter 2:12 But these, as natural [instinctive] brute [Anti-Logical] brute beasts, [Zoon, Zao, Zoe]
          made to be taken and destroyed,
          speak evil of the things that they understand not; [through lack of knowledge]
          and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

Natural: G5446 phusikos foo-see-kos' From G5449 [natural descent] ; “physical”, that is, (by implication) instinctive:--natural. Compare G5591
III. later, belonging to occult laws of nature, magical, ph. pharmaka spells or amulets, Alex. Trall.1.15; “phusikois khrēsthai” Gp.2.18.8; ph. therapeia ib.2.42.3; ph. daktulioi Sch.Ar.Pl.884. Adv. “-kōs” Gp.9.1.5.

Corruption: G5356 phthora fthor-ah' From G5351 ; decay, that is, ruin (spontaneous or inflicted, literally or figuratively):--plague take thee! away with thee, corruption, destroy, perish. deprave
 b. with a Prep., luroidou, phtheiresthai pros tous plousious, of hangers-on and flatterers,
Luroidou “akouō se lurōdou gunaikos eran kai eis ekeinēs phtheiromenon pasan tēn ephēmeron agran katatithesthai
        A.one who sings to the lyre, harmonia meaning: In music, stringing, of bows and lyres,
        musical scale, generally music: rhythm, acting, dancing.
hudr-aulκs one who plays the water organ

Corruption Hebrew: H2490  chβlal khaw-lal' figuratively to profane..
        denominatively (from H2485) to play (the flute), take inheritance, pipe, player on instruments, pollute,
        (cast as) profane  [of Lucifer](self), prostitute


If you purpose to deprive the assembly of the Word of Christ by speaking or singing out of your own pool of wisdom you silence and refuse to hear Christ who is not The Holy Spirit or Jesus in His post glorified state.  Only those have to worry a lot about the meaning of hell whatever its severity or duration.  Calling God in Christ a liar and refusing to listen to Him gives God the right to dispose of you in whatever way He wishes: he may leave you in your flesh state to sing and preach to one another for all eternity: then you may pray for a termination.

Why give aid and comfort specificially for that band of people who reject the commands required to be in the presence of God in a purely spiritual world not subject to the pains of those who have no interest in following in the steps of Jesus?


BLASPHEMY IS NOT SAFE.  Substituting your own opinion is blasphemy: denying CENI.

Jer 23:17 They say still unto them that despise me,
        The Lord hath said, Ye shall have peace;
        and they say unto every one that walketh
        after the imagination of his own heart,
        No evil shall come upon you.

Despise tthe Word of God:
Blasphēmo , āre, ak profanely of sacred things, “eis theous” Pl.R.381e; offer rash prayer I.  v.a., = blasphēmeō (eccl. Lat.), to revile, reproach, Vulg. 1 Par. 20, 7; God and divine things, to blaspheme: “Christum,” Prud. Apoth. 415: “nomen Domini,” Tert. adv. Jud. 13 fin.; Vulg. Lev. 24, 11; id. Matt. 9. 3; 26, 65.
2. speak ill or to the prejudice of one, slander, “peri tēs emēs diatribēs”
I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying,
        I have dreamed, I have dreamed. Jeremiah 23: 25

How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies?
        yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart; Jeremiah 23: 26
Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams,
        which they tell every man to his neighbour,
        as their fathers have forgotten my name for
Baal. Jeremiah 23: 27
The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream;
        and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully.
        What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the Lord. Jeremiah 23: 28

Is not my word like as a
fire? saith the Lord;
        and like a
hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces? Jeremiah 23: 29
Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets,
        saith the Lord, that
steal my words every one from his neighbour. Jeremiah 23: 30 
Behold, I am against the prophets,
        saith the Lord, that use their tongues,
        and say,
He saith. Jeremiah 23: 31
Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the Lord,
        and do tell them, and cause my people to
err by their lies, and by their lightness;
        yet I sent them not, nor commanded them:
        therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the Lord. Jeremiah 23: 32
Jesus died to give us rest from the laded burden and the burden laders: then the invitation to the twos and threes is "come learn of me."  I worry more about people who miss the story line and make the Rest of Christ into a place of torture.  Using the burnt offering of goats (2 Chronicles 29) used as a pattern for "worship" substituted goats in Hezekiah's plague stopping ceremony when they burned infants just before Hezekiah and just after Hezekiah. At the same time Christ in the prophets denies that God had commanded sacrifices or burnt offerings: they came with the worship of the starry host as a result of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai. I will enjoy my own research looking at some of the burning patternism being advocated in modern institutions.

God's Words are not our words. Therefore, it is foolish to try to speak where God has been silent: maybe people deny that there is a law but the law is that doubtful disputations or human opinions are always the mark of the foolish.

When Israel rose up in musical idolatry at Mount Sinai God turned them over to worship the starry host. Therefore they worshipped the starry hosts as the whole Bible makes certain.  That worship of the foolish came from a religion of the Stars and mother goddess common in most of the area.
Ecclesiastes 10:12 The words of a wise man’s mouth are gracious;
        but the lips of a fool will swallow up himself.
        to hasten to ruin
, destroy one's self, throw self down headlong.
Ecclesiastes 10:13 The beginning (initium) of the words of his mouth is foolishness:
         and the end of his talk is mischievous madness.

That is because "His" words have been derived from the universal pagan superstitions of ceremonial legalism tested by the effects on the human flesh.
        Inĭtĭum , Secret sacred rites, sacred mysteries, to which only the initiated were admitted
        B.Things (musical instruments) used in celebrating these mysteries:
                “Typanum, tubam, (war trumpet) Cybele, tua, mater, initia,” Cat. 63, 9.
Catul. 63
Then as the she-he sensed limbs were void of manly strain
And sighted freshly shed a-ground spot of ensanguined stain,
Snatched she the timbrel's legier load with hands as snowdrops white,
Thy timbrel, Mother Cybele, the firstings of thy rite,
And as her tender finger-tips on bull-back hollow rang
She rose a-grieving and her song to listening comrades sang.
"Up Gallae, hie together, haste for Cybele's deep grove,
Hie to the Dindymnean dame, ye flocks that love to rove;

The especial worship of Cybele was conducted by emasculated priests called Galli
The worship was orgiastic in the extreme, and was accompanied by the sound of such frenzy-producing instruments as the tympana, cymbala, tibiae, and cornu, and culminated in scourging, self-mutilation, syncope from excitement. and even death from hemorrhage or heart-failure

See Galatians 5 and witchcraft

[9] tubam Cybelles: as the blare of the tuba is the summons and incitement to warriors, so is the beat of the tympanum to the votaries of Cybele; the phrase is further explained by tua initia. The famous norm of Bentley (on Lucan 1.600) that when the penult is short, the form Cybele should be written, but when it is long the form Cybebe, CybelleCybelle*ku/bella) is found in many good MSS

ĭnĭtĭo. Of the sacred mysteries of Ceres: “initienturque eo ritu Cereri, quo Romae initiantur,” Cic. Leg. 2, 15, 37; cf. id. ib. 2, 9, 21; Liv. 31, 14, 7; Just. 11, 7.—Of other mysteries: “initiari Bacchis,” Liv. 39, 14, 8; 39, 9, 4: “magicis cernis aliquem,” Plin. 30, 2, 6, § 17;

When Jesus accused the men of being like children in the marketplace, the piping, lamenting and dancing was the initiation into the gay brotherhood of all priesthoods.

Madness mălus bad, in the widest sense of the word, “gramina, (a herb?)” id. A. 2, 471: [He glittered likesome swollen viper, fed on poison-leaves,] carmen, i. e. an incantation, Leg. XII. Tab. ap. Plin. 28, 2, 4, § 17: “abi in malam rem,” go and be hanged, disturbance, unfaithful,
Ecclesiastes 10:14 A fool also is full of words:
        a man cannot tell what shall be;
        and what shall be after him, who can tell him?
Ecclesiastes 10:15 The labour of the foolish wearieth every one of them,
        because he knoweth not how to go to the city.

Those who define any dogma will not use that which is written for our learning: in fact, those who are "full of it" are called foolish.

Stultus , a, um, adj. root star-; v. stolidus,
I. foolish, simple, silly, fatuous, etc. (cf.: insulsus, ineptus, insipiens, brutus). “levitas,” Phaedr. 5, 7,
Ov. Met. 9.746  identifies the Egyptian trinity worshipped at Mount Sinai: the homosexual connection is clear.
Ignis  raving, inspiration, Stat. Ach. 1, 509: “quae simul aethereos animo conceperat ignes, ore dabat pleno carmina vera dei,” Ov. F. 1, 473: “(Dido) caeco carpitur igni,” the secret fire of love, Verg. A. 4, 2B. Figuratively of that which brings destruction, fire, flame:

Prince the Piper

A little, friv'lous, abject mind,
Pleased with the rabble, puff'd with wind,
When once, as fast as pride presumes,
Itself with vanity it plumes,
Is by fond lightness brought with ease
To any ridicule you please.

One Prince, a piper to the play,
Was rather noted in his way,
As call'd upon to show his art,
Whene'er Bathyllus did his part,
He being at a certain fair,
(I do not well remember where,)

While they pull'd down the booth in haste,
Not taking heed, his leg displaced,
He from the scaffold fell so hard-
(Would he his pipes had rather marr'd!

Though they, poor fellow! were to him
As dear almost as life and limb).
Borne by the kind officious crowd,
Home he's conducted, groaning loud.
Some months elapsed before he found

Himself recover'd of his wound:
Meantime, according to their way,
The droll frequenters of the play
Had a great miss of him, whose touch
The dancers' spirits raised so much.

A certain man of high renown
Was just preparing for the town
Some games the mob to entertain,
When Prince began to walk again;
Whom, what with bribes and pray'rs, his grace?
Prevail'd upon to show his face
In this performance, by all means-
And while he waits behind the scenes,

A rumour through the house is spread,
By certain, that "the piper's dead."
Others cried out, "The man is here,
And will immediately appear."

The curtain draws, the lightnings flash,
The gods speak out their usual trash.
An ode, not to the Piper known,
Was to the chorus leader shown,

Which he was order'd to repeat,
And which was closed with this conceit--
"Receive with joy, O loyal Rome,
Thy Prince just rescued from his tomb."

They all at once stand up and clap,
At which my most facetious chap
Kisses his hand, and scrapes and bows
To his good patrons in the house.

First the equestrian
order smoke
The fool's mistake, and high in joke,
Command the song to be encored;
Which ended, flat upon the board

The Piper falls, the knights acclaim;
The people think that Prince's aim
Is for a crown of bays at least.
Now all the seats perceived the jest,

And with his bandage white as snow,
White frock, white pumps, a perfect beauty
Proud of the feats he had achieved,
And these high honours he received,
With one unanimous huzza,
Poor Prince was kick'd out of the play.

Labor a. Work, workmanship of an artist (poet.): “operum,” Verg. A. 1, 455: “hic labor ille domūs,” id. ib. 6, 27: “nec non Polycleti multus ubique labor,” Juv. 8, 104. — “litterarius

You make it, compose it or perform it: God won't be insulted.

Vergil defines the worship of Tyre and Sidon which are the patterns of all pagan religion under Lucifer. This involved Queen JunoSidonian Dido raised
Calling Down God's Holy Fires: The Instrumental Mark

Of the IGNIS who are CALLING DOWN GOD'S FIRES with songs: In fact, the LAMPS are removed at the same time the false teachers, singers and instrument players attempt to infiltrate as sorcerers.

The fire may have been lit by their own lips. 
-Incentor  I. one who sets the tune or begins to sing, a precentor, singer (post-class.).
I. Lit.: “carminis,” Paul. Nol. Carm. 15, 32: “incentore canam Phoebo Musisque magistris,”
        meaning "the music minister(ess) who starts the songs and instruments
        for Apollo, Abaddon, Apollyon.

Trop., an inciter, exciter: “igneus turbarum,” Amm. 15, 1, 2: “civilis belli,” Oros. 5, 19: “rebellionis (faction) totius,”
Facio 3. With gen., to make a thing the property of a person, subject it to him:
7. In mercant. lang., to practise, exercise, follow any trade or profession:
“poλma,” to compose, id. Pis. 29, 70: “carmina,” Juv. 7, 28: “versus,” id. 7, 38: “sermonem,” Cic. Fam. 9, 8, 1; cf. “litteram,” id. Ac. 2, 2, 6: ludos, to celebrate, exhibit = edere, id. Rep. 2, 20; id. Att. 15, 10; “also i. q. ludificari
[making a game, ridicule to thwart, frustrate, by tricks or contrivance
Littera scrībo 
"Christ speaks of the lying pen of the Scribes
: Jesus called them hypocrites and Ezekiel 33 marks rhetoricians, singers and instrument players."

Epagoge 2. bringing in to one's aid, introduction
4. allurement, enticement, “tais elpisi kai tais e.” D.19.322.
b. incantation, spell, in pl., Pl.R.364c, Lg.933d; Hekatēs phaskōn epagōgēn gegonenais pell,Thphr.Char.16.7.
7. leading away into captivity, captivity, LXX Is.14.17: generally, distress, misery,Si.23.14  saying that Hecate had put it under a ib.

Psallō , fut.
I. In gen., to play upon a stringed instrument; esp., to play upon the cithara, to sing to the cithara: psallere saltare elegantius, [carry away] 1. to convey away (from the family) by bequest, to bequeath away,
8. In relig. lang., like the Gr rhezein, [religious work] to perform or celebrate a religious rite; to offer sacrifice, make an offering, to sacrifice:

Because of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai God removed The Book of The Covenant, gave them The Book of The Law, turned them over to worship the starry host and sentenced them to be returned to Babylon for captivity and death. At the same time Christ ordained the Qahal, synagogue or Church of Christ in the wilderness.  The synagogue was:

Inclusive of Rest, Reading and Rehearsing
Exclusive of vocal or instrumental rejoicing which includes high-sounding rhetoric.

The pattern was never changed so that both Jew and Gentile understood the Word of God.
Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath 
        in every city them that preach him,
        being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
That never changed:  Jesus endorsed it and commanded it with the word "ekklesia." The pattern for the assembly is defined inclusively and exclusively: the pattern is to speak that which is written for our learning. 

Peter defines the Prophets and the prophets made more certain as the only resource for the church which would cause the Day Star to arise in our hearts.  He defined anyone who did not do that as a false teacher.
2 Peter 1 outlaws private interpretation or further expounding.
2 Peter 2 marks rhetoric and the musical arts to mark the corrupters of the Word
It is unlawful, ungodly and the mark of a false teacher to clip out isolated verses, leaving out others, to try to prove that God will not BURN the viper race.

In Matthew 23 Jesus said that the Word had been hidden from them from the foundation of the World in PARABLES.  Parables in this case are hidden in plain sight.  Therefore, if you try to define or summarize a dogma about "hell" you have undoubtedly missed the point.  Jesus said that God HIDES Himself from the Wise: the rhetoricians, doctors of the law, singers, instrument players and actors.  John called them sorcerers in Revelation 18.

The human spirit becomes loaded or "unclear" with sin and theology so that it cannot see: it does not have A holy spirit or A good conscience promised only by obedience in baptism.

That spirit is the target of the Devil and his sons Jesus identified as speaking on their own.  The purpose of the church as school of the Word is to read and discuss "that which is written for our learning" and EXCLUDE all of the hypocritic arts and artists. Paul makes it clear in Ephesians 5.

If these cunning craftsment, sophists, of the world take you captive in "church" and fills your spirit with his own songs and sermons, the UNIVERSAL MESSAGE is that people begin the CONSUMING process with the fruit of their own lips: specificially the lips of fruits.

If your spirit is consumed or made unable to endure in a purely Spiritual world, the residual flesh at which most "ritualistic worship" is directed for fun and profit, then you may already have been abandoned to the Lake of fire since Jesus has removed the LAMPS (Rev 18) of the speakers, singers and instrument players called "sorcerers" under direction of the Babylon Mother of harlots in Revelation 17.

None of the clergy had a remote clue about the First Advent because they had replaced the Word of Christ with their own songs and sermons calculated to seduce and fleece the widows and honest workers.

ISAIAH 9 for a time like this where people are devoted to devouring everyone who will not bow when they pipe.

Isaiah 9:3 Thou hast multiplied the nation, and not increased the joy:
they joy before thee according to the joy in harvest,
        and as men rejoice when they
divide the spoil.

Isaiah 9:4 For thou hast broken the yoke of his burden,
        and the staff of his shoulder, the
rod of his oppressor, as in the day of Midian.

Isaiah 9:5 For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise,
garments rolled in blood;
        but this shall be with
burning and fuel of fire.

For your time and place:

Tŭmultus , Caes. B. G. 7, 47: “tumultu armorum et cantuum truces,” Tac. A. 4, 47: “verborum,” id. H. 1, 85
A. Disturbance, disquietude, agitation, tumult of the mind or feelings: “tumultus Mentis,” Hor. C. 2, 16, 10; Luc. 7, 183: “pulsata tumultu pectora, Petr. poλt. 123: sceleris tumultus,” Hor. S. 2, 3, 208
B.  Of speech, confusion, disorder: “sermonis,” Plin. 7, 12, 10, § 55: “criminum,” Quint. Decl. 1, 4.
Isaiah 9:12 The Syrians before, and the Philistines behind;
         and they shall
devour Israel with open mouth.
         For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

The Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites as rhetoricians, singers and instrument players in Ezekiel 33 DEVOUR the Widow's and honest wage-earners living making speeches.

Devoro B. To accept eagerly, enjoy: “quid tibi faciam qui illos libros devorasti,” Cic. Att. 7, 3, 2: “os impiorum devorat iniquitatem,” Vulg. Prov. 19, 28: “auscultate et mea dicta devorate,” Plaut. As. 3, 3, 59; cf.: “orationem dulcem (aures),” id. Poen. 5, 2, 9: “verbum ipsum (voluptatis),”
C. ejus oratio, nimia religione attenuata, a multitudine et a foro devorabatur, qs. swallowed but not digested (i. e. heard without being understood), Cic. Brut. 82, 283.
However, the universal message is that God can smite people who have been taken captive and cannot get the message.

Isaiah 9:13
For the people turneth not unto him that smiteth them,
neither do they seek the Lord of hosts.

The Jews worshipped the STARRY HOST and never the Lord of Hosts
I. (With the notion of the per predominating.) To strike through and through, to ∫ or pierce through (syn.: percello, transfig
b. To strike, play a musical instrument (poet.): “lyram,” Ov. Am. 3, 12, 40; Val. Fl. 5, 10

The only spiritual worship concept is to seek God through His Word.
quaero A  In gen., to seek, i. e. to think over, meditate, aim at, plan a thing:
3. To seek to learn from any one; to ask, inquire, interrogate (cf.: interrogo, perconto
Isaiah 9:14 Therefore the Lord will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day.
Isaiah 9:15
The ancient and honourable, he is the head;
        and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.

Isaiah 9:16
For the leaders of this people cause them to err;
        and they that are
led of them are destroyed.
Isaiah 9:17
Therefore the Lord shall have no joy in their young men,
        neither shall have mercy on their fatherless and widows:

        for every one is an
hypocrite and an evildoer,
hypocrĭta or -es , ae, m., = hupokritēs.
I. A mime who accompanied the delivery of an actor by gestures, Suet. Ner. 24; Quint. 2, 17, 12; 11, 3, 7
II. In eccl. Lat., a hypocrite, Vulg. Job, 8, 13; id. Matt. 6, 2; id. Luc. 12, 56 al.

Hupokritikos 2.suited for speaking or delivery, actor's art, acting a part, pretending to. Hupokrites 2. of an orator, poikilos  rhapsodist, pretender, dissembler, hypocrite , interpreter, expounder l Epos

A hypocrite is: A. A. Poikilos 2. of Art, p. humnos a song of changeful strain or full of diverse art, Pi.O.6.87; “poikilon kitharizōn” Id.N.4.14; “dedaidalmenoi pseudesi poikilois muthoi” Id.O.1.29; of style, “lexis poiētikōtera kai p.” Isoc.15.47skhēmatismoi” D.H.Is.3.

A hypocrite is: B.Epos A. vαcas 'word', 'hymn', cf. eipon):
1.  song or lay accompanied by music, 8.91,17.519.
IV. in pl., epic poetry, opp. melē (lyric poetry), iambeia, dithuramboi, etc., “rhaptōn epeōn aoidoi” Pi.N.2.2 ; “ta Kupria epea” Hdt.2.117, cf. Th.1.3, X.Mem.1.4.3, Pl.R.379a, etc. ; “epea te poiein pros luran t' aeidein” Theoc.Ep.21.6 ; “nikēsas epos” IG3.1020 ; poētēs epōn ib.7.3197.9 (Orchom. Boeot.), cf. OGI51.37 (Egypt, iii B.C.).
       The Nicolaitans were always the pagan musical clergy who TRIUMPHED over the Laity.
nikaō , Ion. nikeō Democr.249, Herod.1.51, also GDI1413.16 (Aetol.), SIG265.4 (Delph., iv B.C.), v.l. in Apoc.2.7; Aeol. nikēmi Theoc.7.40, AP7.743 (Antip.); also in impf. nikē cj. in Pi.N.5.5, cf. Theoc.6.46: Ep. impf. 1pl.
2. prevail, be superior, muthoisin, egkhei, Il.18.252; “doloisi” Od.3.121; kallei enika (sc. krētēr) Il.23.742; “pasan aretēn nenikēkōs” Pl.Lg.964c: c. part., “euergetōn n.” X.Ages.9.7.
4. c. inf., succeed in . . , “enikēse skorpisai” Psalm.Solom.4.13.
(Comp.); “

and every mouth speaketh folly. For all this his anger is not turned away,
        but his hand is stretched out still.

ex-tendo  “tam immodice epistulam extendi, “famam factis,” Verg. A. 10, 46 “cupiditatem gloriae,” Liv. 28, 43,

Isaiah 9:18 For wickedness burneth as the fire:
        it shall
devour the briers and thorns,
        and shall kindle in the thickets of the forest,
        and they shall mount up like the lifting up of smoke.

succensĕo and suscensĕo , sŭi, sum, 2, v. n. succensus, from succendo, I. to be inflamed with anger, to be angry, irritated, enraged (class.; syn.: irascor, indignor

impĭĕtas (inp- ), ātis, f. impius,
I. want of reverence or respect, irreverence, ungodliness, impiety, undutifulness, disloyalty (rare but class.): “nihil est quod tam miseros faciat quam impietas et scelus,” Cic. Fin. 4, 24, 66; Ov. M. 4, 4: impietatis duces, of disloyalty, treason to one's country, Cic. Lael. 12, 42: “impietatem punire voluit (legum lator),” i. e. undutifulness to parents, Quint. 7, 1, 52; Suet. Vit. Luc.; cf. Ov. M. 8, 477: “Albucilla defertur impietatis in principem,” of high-treason, Tac. A. 6, 47; Plin. Pan. 33, 3.

Isaiah 9:19 Through the wrath of the Lord of hosts is the land darkened,
        and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire: no man shall spare his brother.

exercĭtus , ūs (: “exercitum conscribere, comparare,” id. ib. 5, 13, 36: “parare,” Sall. C. 29, 3: “scribere,” Liv. 2, 43, 5:
(b).  Poet., in gen., a multitude, host, swarm, flock: “corvorum,” Verg. G. 1, 382; id. A. 5, 824; Sil. 11, 413
(g).  A troop, body of attendants, etc.: “huic illut dolet, quia remissus est edundi exercitus,” Plaut. Capt. 1, 2, 50: “remissum imperare exercitum,” id. ib. v. 52.—*

Isaiah 9:20 And he shall snatch on the right hand, and be hungry;
        and he shall eat on the left hand, and they shall not be satisfied:
        they shall
eat every man the flesh of his own arm:


Isaiah 50 is important because Isaiah 55 outlaws paying for the free water of the Word because YOU cannot read beyond the sacred page and have nothing to offer as an AID: that makes you a legalist. Furthermore, Isaiah 58 by Christ defines the future REST which forbids seeking your own pleasure or even speaking your own word.

Isaiah 50:4 The Lord GOD hath given me the tongue of the learned,
        that I should know how to speak a word in season to him that is weary:
        he wakeneth morning by morning,
        he wakeneth mine ear to hear as the learned.
Isaiah 50:5 The Lord GOD hath opened mine ear,
        and I was not rebellious, neither turned away back.
In His post-resurrected and glorified state Jesus of Nazareth is The Holy Spirit. He does not speak to certain people to negate His command not to tamper with His Word:

Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens:
         but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord,
        Sit thou on my right hand,
Acts 2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly,
        that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified,
        both Lord and Christ.
Isa 50:6 I gave my back to the smiters, 
        and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair:
        I hid not my face from shame and spitting.
Conspuo as a charm to prevent the gods from being provoked by proud words, Juv. 7, 111
Isaiah 50.6 [6] corpus meum dedi percutientibus et genas meas vellentibus faciem meam non averti ab increpantibus et conspuentibus


Per-cŭtĭo  Carries the always-violent message of Psallo
(With the idea of the verb predominating.) To strike, beat, hit, smite, shoot, etc. (cf.: ico, pulso, ferio).
I. (With the notion of the per predominating.) To strike through and through, to thrust or pierce through (syn.: percello, transfigo).

Arassτa). kitharēn strike the lyre, Orph.A.382; humnon, melos,
Psallo has never at any time defined musical melody.
Always Violent: of any violent impact, with collat. notion of rattling, clanging, as of horses, hoplais, pound in a mortar, strike with a shower of stones 
2. c. dat. modi, arassein tina oneidesi, kakois,
assail with reproaches or threats,  II. Pass., to be dashed against, dash one against the other
Pulso.  Of military engines. Of musical instruments: “chordas digitis et pectine eburno,” to strike, play upon, Verg. A. 6, 647: “chelyn,” (lyre) Val. Fl. 1, 139: “pectine nervos,” Sil. 5, 463: “cymbala,” Juv. 9, 62.—Of things: “pulsant arva ligones,” Ov. Am. 3, 10, 31; id. M. 11, 529: “nervo pulsante sagittae,” Verg. G. 4, 313.
        Always Violent: A. In gen., to urge or drive on, to impel, to set in violent motion,
        to move, agitate, disturb, disquiet

Pello,4. Of a musical instrument, to strike the chords, play: “nervi pulsi,” struck,
 Cic. Brut. 54, 199: “lyra pulsa manu,” Ov. M. 10, 205; cf.: “classica pulsa,” i. e. blown    
        Always Violent: 1. To drive out or away, to thrust or turn out, expel,
        banish; esp. milit., to drive back, discomfit, rout the enemy
        (freq. and class.; syn.: fugo, elimino, deicio)

In Particular b. To strike, play a musical instrument (poet.): “lyram,” Ov. Am. 3, 12, 40; Val. Fl. 5, 100

Ov. Am. 3.12 Elegy XII: He complains that the praises he has bestowed on his mistress in his verses, have occasioned him many rivals.

Ill-omen'd birds, how luckless was the day,
When o'er my love you did your wings display!
What wayward orb, what inauspicious star
Did then rule heav'n ? what gods against me war?
She who so much my fatal passion wrongs,
       Was known and first made famous by my songs.

I lov'd her first, and lov'd her then alone,
But now, I fear, I share her with the town.
Am I deceiv'd or can she be the same,
Who only to my verses owes her fame
My verse a price upon her beauty laid,
      And by my praises she her market made;

Whom but myself can I with reason blame?
Without me she had never had a name.
Did I do this, who knew her soul so well?
Dearly to me she did her favours sell;
And when the wares were to the public known,
       Why should I think she'd sell to me alone ?

'Twas I proclaim'd to all the town her charms,
And tempted cullies to her venal arms;
I made their way, I show'd them where to come,
And there is hardly now a rake in Rome

But knows her rates, and thanks my babbling muse:
Her house is now as common as the stews;
For this I'm to the muse oblig'd, and more
For all the mischiefs envy has in store.
This comes of gallantry, while some employ
Their talents on the fate of Thebes and Troy,
While others Caesar's godlike acts rehearse,
Corinna is the subject of my verse.

Oh, that I ne'er had known the art to please,
But written without genius and success.
Why did the town so readily believe
My verse, and why to songs such credit give ?
Sure poetry s the same it ever was,
And poets ne'er for oracles did pass.
Why is such stress upon my writings laid?
Why such regard to what by me is said ?
I wish the tales I've of Corinna told,
Had been receiv'd as fables were of old;
Of furious Scylla's horrid shape we read,
And how she scalp'd her hoary father's lead:
Of her fair face, and downward how she takes
The wolf's fierce form, the dog's, or curling snake's;
Serpents for hair, in ancient song we meet,
And man and horse with wings instead of feet.
Huge Tityon from the skies the poets flung,
Encelladus's wars with Jove they sung;
How by her spells, and by her voice, to beasts,
The doubtful virgin chang'd her wretched guests;
How Eolus did for Ulysses keep
The winds in bottles while he plough'd the deep:
How Cerberus, three headed, guarded hell;
And from his car the son of Phoebus fell:
How thirsty Tantalus attempts to sip
The stream in vain, that flies his greedy lip:
How Niobe in marble drops a tear,
And a bright nymph was turn'd into a bear:
How Progne, now a swallow, does bemoan
Her sister nightingale, and pheasant son.
In Leda, Danae, and Europa's rapes,
They sing the king of gods in various shapes;
A swan he lies on ravish'd Leda's breast,
And Danae by a golden show'r compress'd;
A bull does o'er the waves Europa bear,
And Proteus any form he pleases wear.
How oft do we the Theban wonders read,
Of serpent's teeth transform'd to human seed!

Of dancing woods, and moving rocks, that throng
To hear sweet Orpheus, and Amphion's song ?
How oft do the Heliades bemoan,
In tears of gum, the fall of Phaeton!
The sun from Atreus' table frightened flies,
And backward drives his chariot in the skies.
Those now are nymphs that lately were a fleet;
Poetic license ever was so great.

But none did credit to these fictions give,
Or for true history such tales receive,
And though Corinna in my songs is fair,
Let none conclude she's like her picture there.
The fable she with hasty faith receiv'd,
And what, so very well she lik'd, believ'd.
But since so ill she does the poet use,
'Tis time her vanity to disabuse.

V. Fl. 5.63
visa viris atra nox protinus abstulit14 umbra.
95ille dolens altum repetit chaos. omina15 Mopsus
dum stupet, in prima tumulum procul aspicit acta,
obnubensque caput cineri dat vina vocato.
carmina quin etiam visos placantia manes
Odrysius dux16 rite movet mixtoque sonantem
100percutit ore17 lyram nomenque relinquit harenis.
B. Trop.
1. To smite, strike, visit with calamity of any kind (class.): “percussus calamitate,” Cic. Mur. 24, 49: “percussus fortunae vulnere,” id. Ac. 1, 3, 11: “ruina,” Vulg. Zach. 14, 18: anathemate. id. Mal. 4, 6: “plaga,” id. 1 Macc. 1, 32: “in stuporem,” id. Zach. 12, 4

Music from mystery means to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter.
Stŭpor, I. numbness; dulness, insensibility, stupidity, stupor, stupefaction; astonishment, wonder, amazement
Zech 12[] In that day," says Yahweh, "I will strike every horse with terror, and his rider with madness; and I will open my eyes on the house of Judah, and will strike every horse of the peoples with blindness.
See Anathema and Musical Worship: once dedicated cannot be redeemed: must be burned.

2. To strike, shock, make an impression upon, affect deeply, move, astound (class.): “percussisti me de oratione prolatā,” Cic. Att. 3, 12, 3; id. Mil. 29, 79:
3. To cheat, deceive, impose upon one (class.): “aliquem probe,” Plaut. Ps. 2, 2, 9: “hominem eruditum,” Cic. Fl. 20, 46: “hominem strategemate,” id. Att. 5, 2, 2: “aliquem palpo,” to flatter, Plaut. Am. 1, 3, 28


Vello  A. Of animals, to pluck or pull, i. e. to deprive of the hair, feathers, et
II. Trop., to tear, torment A. Lit., shorn, plucked, smooth, beardless, hairless: 

A. Lit., shorn, plucked, smooth, beardless, hairless: “istum gallum Glabriorem reddes mihi quam volsus ludiust,” Plaut. Aul. 2, 9, 6 

Pl. Aul. 2.9

speaking to some within . Dromo, do you scale the fish. Do you, Machζrio, have the conger and the lamprey boned. I'm going to ask the loan of a baking-pan of our neighbour Congrio. You, if you are wise, will have that capon more smoothly picked for me than is a plucked play-actor1. But what's this clamour that's arising here hard by? By my faith, the cooks, I do believe, are at their usual pranks2. I'll run in-doors, lest there may be any disturbance here for me as well. Retreats into the house of MEGADORUS.

1 A plucked play-actor: The actors, having to perform the parts of women and beardless youths, were obliged to remove superfluous hair from the face, which was effected "vellendo," "by plucking it out," whence the term "volsus."

Gallus   A. Galli , ōrum, m., the priests of Cybele, so called because of their raving, Ov. F. 4, 361 sq.; Plin. 5, 32, 42, § 146; 11, 49, 109, § 261; 35, 12, 46, § 165; Paul. ex Fest. p. 95 Mόll.; Hor. S. 1, 2, 121.—In sing.: Gallus , i, m., a priest of Cybele, Mart. 3, 81; 11, 74; cf. Quint. 7, 9, 2: “resupinati cessantia tympana Galli,” Juv. 8, 176.—And satirically (on account of their emasculated condition), in the fem.: Gallae , ārum, Cat. 63, 12, and 34.—
2. (Acc. to II. A., of or belonging to the priests of Cybele; hence, transf.) Of or belonging to the priests of Isis, Gallic: “turma,” the troop of the priests of Isis, Ov. Am. 2, 13, 18.

lūdĭus , ĭi, m. ludus.
I. A stageplayer, pantomimist: “fite caussā meā ludii barbari,” Plaut. Curc. 1, 2, 63: “ipse ille maxime ludius, non solum spectator, sed actor et acroama,” Cic. Sest. 54, 116; id. Har. Resp. 11; Plaut. Aul. 2, 9, 6: “ludius aequatam ter pede pulsat humum,” Ov. A. A. 1, 112: “triviales ex Circo ludios interponebat,” Suet. Aug. 74; cf. ludio.—
II. A gladiator: “comitata est Hippia ludium ad Pharon,” Juv. 6, 82.

2. Trop., effeminate: “mens,” 

Mens the mind, disposition; the heart, soul

E. Personified: Mens , the goddess of thought, whose festival was held on the eighth of June, Cic. Leg. 2, 8, 19: “Menti aedem T. Octacilius praetor vovit,” Liv. 22, 10

Cicero check here.


increpantibus Always Violent: I. “increpatus,” Just. 11, 4, 5; Prud. 7, 195; Liv. 24, 17, 7 Cod.), 1, v. n. and a., to make a noise, sound, resound, to rush, rustle, patter, rattle, whiz (class.).

B. Act., to utter aloud, produce, give forth (poet.): “saevas increpat aura minas,” Prop. 1, 17, 6: tuba terribilem sonitum. Verg. A. 9, 504

Verg. A. 9, 504 

But now the brazen trumpet's fearsome song
blares loud, and startled shouts of soldiery
spread through the roaring sky. The Volscian band
press to the siege, and, locking shield with shield,
fill the great trenches, tear the palisades,
or seek approach by ladders up the walls,
where'er the line of the defenders thins, and light
through their black circle shines.



Isaiah 50:7 For the Lord GOD will help me;
        therefore shall I not be confounded:
        therefore have I set my face like a flint,
        and I know that I shall not be ashamed.
We have to go OUTSIDE the camp to find Jesus and learn of HIM.

I. To pour, mingle, or mix together (class. in prose and poetry).
1.  In gen., to mingle, unite, join, combine (rare): “(decorum) totum illud quidem est cum virtute confusum, sed mente cogitatione distinguitur,” Cic. Off. 1, 27, 95; so, “vera cum falsis,” id. Ac. 2, 19, 61: “est id quidem in totam orationem confundendum,” id. de Or. 2, 79, 322:
“sermones in unum,” Liv. 7, 12, 14; cf. id. 40, 46, 13: “duo populi in unum confusi,” id. 1, 23, 2
“subjecta sibi vocalis in unum sonum coalescere et confundi nequiret,” id. 1, 7, 2
Liv. 7 12 14] The centurions began to mingle with the soldiers; the murmuring was not confined to little knots of men, but in the main street and before the commander's tent there was now one general clamour; the throng increased to the bigness of an assembly, and on every side shouts were heard that they should go instantly to the dictator, and that Sextus Tullius should be spokesman for the army, as became his courage.
Jesus will not be confoundecd by the:
Vocalus . that utters a voice, sounding, sonorous, speaking, crying, singing, vocal.
72, § 141: “nympha (of Echo),” id. ib. 3, 357: “Orpheus,” Hor. C. 1, 12, 7: “chordae,” Tib. 2, 5, 3: “carmen,” Ov. M. 11, 317: “boves,” endowed with speech, Tib. 2, 5, 78: genus instrumenti, i. e. slaves (opp. semivocale and mutum) “terra, Dodonis,” Ov. M. 13, 716 (clanging brass)
At Actium in Appollos Church in signe therof dooth sit. They vewed also Dodon grove where Okes spake: and the coast (Clanging Brass or continuous talker

Sŏnus, “
tympana raucis Obstrepuere sonis,” Ov. M. 4, 392: “non exaudito tubae sono,” Caes. B. G. 7, 47: “in tibiarum cantibus varietas sonorum,” id. N. D. 2, 58, 146:
Chorda , ae, f., = khordē. *
I. An intestine, as food, Petr. 66, 7 (al. leg. cord.).— Far more freq.,
II. Catgut, a string (of a musical instrument), Cic. de Or. 3, 57, 214; id. N. D. 2, 59, 149 fin.; Lucr. 2, 412; 2, 505; Tib. 2, 5, 3; 3, 4, 70; Hor. C. 4, 9, 4; id. S. 1, 3, 8; id. A. P. 348 al.—
B. A rope, cord, for binding a slave: “tunc tibi actutum chorda tenditur,” Plaut. Most. 3, 2, 55 
Ov. Met. 11.317
As for to make the black things whyghlt, and whyght things black appeere.
And by Apollo (for shee bare a payre) was borne his brother
Philammon, who in musick arte excelled farre all other,
As well in singing as in play. But what avayled it
To beare such twinnes, and of two Goddes in favour to have sit?

Immediatly shee bent her bowe, and let an arrow go,
Which strake her through the toong, whose spight deserved wounding so.
Her toong wext dumb, her speech gan fayle that erst was over ryfe,
And as shee stryved for to speake, away went blood and lyfe.
How wretched was I then, O God? how strake it to my hart?
What woordes of comfort did I speake to ease my brothers smart?
His face is like flint and you cannot affect His senses.
Dūrus , A.  Orig. as affecting the sense of feeling: hard, i. e. containing much earthy matter
Isaiah 50:8 He is near that justifieth me;
    Justĭfĭco , justify, make just, forgive, pardon, vindicate justified (eccl. Lat.): “baptismate,
        “Publicanus Pharisaeo justificatior  dis-cēdo
        who will contend with me? let us stand together:
        who is mine adversary? let him come near to me.

Isa 50:9 Behold, the Lord GOD will help me; who is he that shall condemn me?
        lo, they all shall wax old as a garment; the moth shall eat them up.
con-demno   B. Transf., in gen., to condemn, to accuse of, charge with; to blame, disapprove: vestra amatis; injure, oblige him, misuse Christ for his own benefit.
Isa 50:10 Who is among you that feareth the LORD,
        that obeyeth the voice of his servant,
        that walketh in darkness, and hath no light?
        let him trust in the name of the LORD, and stay upon his God.


Isa 50:11 Behold, all ye that kindle a fire,
        that compass yourselves about with sparks: walk in the light of your fire,
        and in the sparks that ye have kindled.
        This shall ye have of mine hand; ye shall lie down in sorrow.
Ac-cendo , ndi, nsum, 3, v. a. cf. candeo, prop.
I. to kindle any thing above, so that it may burn downwards (on the contr., succendere, to kindle underneath, so that it may burn upwards; and incendere, to set fire to on every side) (class., esp. in the trop. signif., very freq.).
II. Fig., to inflame a person or thing (by any thing), to set on fire, to kindle, to incite, rouse up
That to which one is excited is denoted by ad: “ad dominationem accensi sunt,” Sall. Jug. 31, 16; the person against whom one is excited, by in or contra:
-Incentor  I. one who sets the tune or begins to sing, a precentor, singer (post-class.).
I. Lit.: “carminis,” Paul. Nol. Carm. 15, 32: “incentore canam Phoebo [Abaddon, Apollyon]
A Musical Minister or Mistress.
          Musisque    magistris,” Avien. Perieg. 895; Isid. 6, 9, 13
Musa I. a muse, one of the goddesses of poetry, music, and the other liberal arts. Without much wit.
măgistra , ae, f. id., I. a mistress, superior, conductress, directress, highpriestess, with the aid of art,
II. Trop., an inciter, exciter: “igneus turbarum,” Amm. 15, 1, 2: “civilis belli,” Oros. 5, 19: “rebellionis totius,”

Ignis , is (abl. usu. igni
A. (Mostly poet.) The fire or glow of passion, in a good or bad sense; of anger, rage, fury: “exarsere ignes animo,” Verg. A. 2, 57 raving, inspiration, Stat. Ach. 1, 509: “quae simul aethereos animo conceperat ignes, ore dabat pleno carmina vera dei,

carmen , ĭnis, n. (old form cas-men , Varr. L. L. p. 86 Bip.) [Sanscr. ηasto declaim, praise; cf.: camilla, censeo], I. a tune, song; poem, verse; an oracular response, a prophecy; a form of incantation (cf.: cano, cantus, and canto). per me (sc. Apollinem) concordant carmina nervis,” id. ib. 1, 518; cf. id. ib. 11, 5;
B. Figuratively of that which brings
destruction, fire, flame:
Ăpollo , ĭnis (earlier Ăpello , like hemo for homo [Abaddon, Apollyon]
Apollōn, Apollo, son of Jupiter and Latona, twin brother of Diana, and god of the sun. On account of his omniscience, god of divination; on account of his lightnings (belē), god of archery (hence represented with quiver and dart), and of the pestilence caused by heat; but, since his priests were the first physicians, also god of the healing art; and since he communicated oracles in verse, god of poetry and music, presiding over the Muses, etc.; cf. Hor. C. S. 61 sq. In more ancient times, represented as a protecting deity, by a conical pillar [phallic] in the streets and highway

Belos , eos, to, A. missile, esp. arrow, dart
3. agana belea of Apollo, Il.24.759, Od.3.280, and of Artemis, ib.5.124, denote sudden, easy death of men and women respectively; belos oxu, of Ilithyia, pangs of childbirth, Il.11.269, cf. Theoc.27.29.
himerou b. the shaft of love, Id.Pr.649; “thumou belē” S.OT893 (s.v.l.); of arguments, “pan tetoxeutai b.” A.Eu.679
“ ho phthonos autos heauton heois beleessi damazei”

Opprĭmo (obp- ), essi, essum, 3, v. a. ob-premo,
I. to press against, press together; to press down (class.; syn. obruo).
E. To load, overwhelm, bear down, overcome:
F. To fall upon, surprise, take by surprise, come upon unexpectedly, seize, catch
Chorda , ae, f., = khordē. *
I. An intestine, as food, Petr. 66, 7 (al. leg. cord.).— Far more freq.,
II. Catgut, a string (of a musical instrument), Cic. de Or. 3, 57, 214; id. N. D. 2, 59, 149 fin.; Lucr. 2, 412; 2, 505; Tib. 2, 5, 3; 3, 4, 70; Hor. C. 4, 9, 4; id. S. 1, 3, 8; id. A. P. 348 al.—
B. A rope, cord, for binding a slave: “tunc tibi actutum chorda tenditur,” Plaut. Most. 3, 2, 55

I. the production of melodious sound, a musical utterance or expression, either with voice or instrument; hence, song, singing, playing, music (while carmen is prop. the contents or substance of the song, etc.; cf.: “qui enim cantus moderatā oratione dulcior invenire potest? Quod carmen artificiosā conclusione aptius?” Cic. de Or. 2, 8, 34).
B. An incantation, charm, magic song, etc.: cantusque artesque magorum. Ov. M. 7, 195; 7, 201
Flamma , The flame or fire of passion, esp. of love, the flame or glow of love, flame, passion, love: “amoris turpissimi,” Cic. Verr. 2, 5, 35, § 92ae (archaic “omnis illa vis et quasi flamma oratoris modum ponere iambis flammā
Mŏdus, 2. The measure of tones, measure, rhythm, melody, harmony, time; in poetry, measure, metre, mode: “vocum,” Cic. Div. 2, 3, 9: “musici,” Quint. 1, 10, 14: “lyrici,” Ov. H. 15, 6: “fidibus Latinis Thebanos aptare modos,” Hor. Ep. 1, 3, 12: Bacchico exsultas (i. e. exsultans) modo, Enn. ap. Charis. p. 214 P. (Trag. v. 152 Vahl.): “flebilibus modis concinere,” Cic. Tusc. 1, 44, 106: saltare ad tibicinis modos, to the music or sound of the flute, Liv. 7, 2: “nectere canoris Eloquium vocale modis,” Juv. 7, 19.—Fig.: “verae numerosque modosque ediscere vitae,” moral harmonies
 B. A devouring flame, destructive fire, suffering, danger: “incidi in ipsam flammam civilis discordiae vel potius belli,”
Discordĭa , . disunion, disagreement, dissension, variance, discord
1. The subject of strife: “Idae et Phoebo [Abaddon, Apollyondiscordia Eveni filia,” Prop. 1, 2, 17
There are many other passages which convey the same message: the consuming is that of the human spirit which refuses to be cleansed by Christ at baptism so that it is now A holy spirit or A good conscience or consciousness. That means that the disciple never goes beyond what is written and tries to understand. anyone presuming to invent dogma for others is bound to teach in context and define words.  The result is that this message of people being deprived of their spiritual nature through rhetoric, singing and music begins in the Garden of Eden and ends in Revelation.

Working really hard to force Scripture to mean something contrafy to almost universal understanding has to be motivated by some motive beyond the sacred page.   The motive should be to search the Scriptures to understand that however long the consuming lasts it begins and is facilitated by people using music.  Jude quotes Enoch who proves that God comes with ten thousands of His saints to execute judgement on a class of people: the recorded history points to those who take an unfair advantage to derange the mind with music so that the Word of Christ has no room or time.

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