First Colony Church of Christ

Review of Instrumental Music Plan 

Ronnie Norman part of the "restructure" of Churches of Christ into an instrumental church: the  3rd service is the old punch line meaning we intend to go all the way. Please note that we warned you in 2004 and you laughed in our face. Click for the forum and discuss it.

A REVIEW OF RONNIE NORMAL'S SERMONS ON ROMANS 14.

BACKGROUND FOR THOSE LEADING YOU INTO CAPTIVITY.

Promise Keepers Natonal Shepherding Network On another link.
The Promise Keepers
A second paper on another link.
"Where did the modern authoritarian discipling system come from? Who dreamed up this pyramid scheme of a young evangelist controlling the lives of converts so that they grind out huge work quotas and big number baptisms? What are the roots of this system?
ADDITIONS TO THIS PAPER POSTED BELOW
Click for the Time Line leading to diversion below:
Click for Lynn Anderson's First Annual National Shepherds Clinic Pattern to take you captive 24/7 below

See the Afterglow of National Shepherd's Clinic (isn't that a sexual term)

THE WARNING BY A "FIRST ALERT"


Here is a post on a forum    


"I just received an email from a concerned friend at church who was telling me that there was going to be a meeting explaining how instrumental music was going to be added. May 4th is the target date. The note said that this information needed to be on the "QT" because the congregation did not know this was about to happen. There will be a meeting later this month and a DVD presentation by Rick Atchley. The minister at First Colony is not as dynamic a speaker as Rick Atchley and needs help to get this message across, because the majority of the congregation has already heard about this instrumental music service. The shepherds have become sheep! I am curious as to why the darkness! Bring this out into the light if this is good and just!. John 3 states that evil is afraid to be found out and that is why they stay in the dark.

The email said that the congregation would be completing a brief survey--I guess to determine a consensus? Is this the Oracle of Dephi technique being used on good people?


The Shepherding Movement

The manipulation is certainly one of the brain washing techniques.  Ronnie Norman worked in Max Lucado's area to a mislead "conservative" church of Christ defining Lyn Andersons Shepherding Movement which he got from Promise Keepers and identical to the Crossroads and IOCc sect.  Music is historically just to BIND the "community church" meaning commune to the dominant tribal leader.  

The real reason for the MUSIC of course is that the Community Church defined as COMMUNE will not work--as we learned in Cave Man 101--with the use of the musical prophesiers to lead you into the presence of the gods and BIND you to the AGENT of the gods.  When the Mega Church breaks down you typically have to break up into CIRCLES in smaller groups. Joseph Campbell notes that when a group loses connection to their roots they "crack away to an archaic form of superstitious tribalism."  

"When tribes grew too large for effective co-operation (and inbred), they often became subdivided into smaller kinship groups (clans, sibs, gentes) which continued to regard each other as close allies. Government was exercised by individual chieftains assisted by councils of elders" (p. 26).

"In this fashion evey common tribal interest--the recurrence of the seasons, the increase of the food supply, successful hunting--was likely to become embodied

in some regularly repeated ceremony, which usually included group dancing, singing, and feasting.

Besides enabling men to express, and thereby to allay, ANGER and ANXIETY, such ceremonies also promoted tribal UNITY and strengthened the loyalty of the individual to TRIBAL TRADITION,

for the emotional excitement they aroused had the effect of breaking down the barriers between individuals

and thus fusing all tribesmen into a collective whole. Meanwhile, whole systems of magical devices were gradually elaborated." (Parkes, p. 29)

'Certain members of a tribe, marked out either by unusual skills or by some emotional abnormality, ususally became particularly adept at these operations, and gradually assumed specialized functions. RELEASED from the duty of hunting, and concentrating on the practice of MAGIC, the shaman, SORCERER, or medicine man was the world's first professional." (Parkes, H. Bamfort, of Gods and Men, p. 29).

The development both of religion and of the arts can be traced back in a continuous line to the hunting era. The group ritual of the primeval tribesmen were the origin not only of all religious ceremonial, but also of the drama and of poetry and music, while magic gave birth to the visual arts." (Parkes, Henry Bamford, On Gods and Men, p. 30).

"Awed by the mysteries of his own spirit no less than by those of nature, primitive man was likely to attribute to divine influence

any abnormal emotional state, whether above or below the usual level. Medicine men customarily went into states of trance in which they were believed to be in communication with the gods,
and many tribes supposed
lunatics and sexual deviants to be divinely possessed.

It is an absolute certainty that all religious music was conducted by women or if males we are told that they were drunk or perverted. That is why all of the PLAY and SPORTING words in the Bible point specificially to the DOGS or Wolves which identify elders who have let the CYNICS in and who were identified by their "singing style."

All of these people read off the script suppled by the NACC most recently by David Faust promoting UNITY and USING a few dupes.  Ronnie is simply following in the steps of the small band: Milton Jones, Chris Seidman, Max Lucado, Rick Atchley and Mark Henderson. They all use the same words.  This movement was finally brought to a head when they discovered that literate Bible students could not be SEDUCED.

This began with a secret agenda to restructure all churches of Christ into Christian Churches.  It has features lots of help by once-Christian universities, the Tulsa Soulstealing Workshop, the Jubilee and other programmed effort to slowly "boil the frog" and make the Church of Christ members feel evil for following the Bible and all of church history in rejecting "machines for doing hard work" which John identifies as SORCERERS using "lusted after fruits" under the Mother of Harlots (Rev 17-18)

To their credit out of over 13,000 congregations the have SEDUCED none but the congregations of that band of merry men who started the massive sowing of discord to steal the church houses of widows."

This email was sent to the FCCC members mailing list on 4/25/08:

This Sunday I Start A Two Week Series Called “Music Matters” And We Will Ask For Your Feedback Next Sunday, May 4… I plan to talk very openly about our musical heritage in the churches of Christ (much of which is so very positive).
We’ll bathe this discussion in the light of scripture and ask for your prayers.
[This will be a bath of 100% lying about the cursed Monarchy Scribes while they are not even aware that only the PROPHETS by the Spirit OF Christ defined the church and  repudiated the king-priests-and Levites as robbers and PARASITES]
Last summer & fall, all the elders began to study, reflect, discuss and pray about asking the church to consider offering well-done, tasteful, live instrumentation in one of our worship services and if so, when should that service be offered. By “well-done” I mean a service where the instrumentation complements rather than overwhelms and where participatory singing remains a high value.

Bottom line: all the elders felt fine about allowing a service with live instrumentation (but only if well-done and only if a strong exclusively acappella presence continues in other services) and we’ve even talked about some possible specifics with one another and our deacons. However, the reality is we are not married to anything specific regarding dates and times. We have certainly given this some thought but nothing is set in stone. We are not even married to offering an instrumental service. But we are married to a clear and open process where we ask the entire church to consider the possibility of live instrumentation in one of the worship services of our church family. We ask you to consider this through a process of evaluating scripture, praying for God’s leading, considering one another, and providing feedback.

Specifically, on Sunday May 4 we will ask you to fill out a brief survey telling us your perspectives regarding “church music”. That survey will also be available on-line and here’s what it will do: it will help us know more accurately where we are as a church family and what you think. When it comes to even considering any kind of transition in our church culture, our elders will move slowly & gently and will provide time for study, evaluation, prayer and dialog. I’m looking forward to presenting these two messages and I hope you’ll be encouraged.

That means the DECISION has been made and the honorable elders have agreed to resign rather than toss the discorders out.  Here is the survey and you will note the high pressure used on the options:
Notice: here is how WE want you to vote:
After much study and prayer, we are asking the church to consider the use of tasteful, live musical instrumentation in one of the worship services in our church family. We are not asking you to attend an instrumental service but to allow it for others. We have no desire to transition all services to instrumental. We want to know your perspectives. Please complete the confidential survey below for your elders. Thank you
  1. My preference is instrumental and I would often attend the instrumental service
  2. I enjoy both acappella and instrumental and would attend either
  3. My preference is acappella but I can allow an instrumental option for others
  4. My choice is acappella and I do not believe that an instrumental option should be offered to others. 
Shouldn't the question be:
You must understand that the MOTIVE of the Shepherding movement--at any level--is to seek out and collect information about anyone foolish enough to "confess" or be held "accountable." Erasmus wrote a wonderful piece on the CONFESSIONAL which was and is always a way to find that HIDDEN sin and use it to blackmail elders and others who stand in their way into silence.

SOME FEEDBACK WHERE YOU MAY SHARE YOUR VIEWS:

"I have been involved with what has happened at several churches, not all are Churches of Christ, and there are some very familiar similarities to what has happened at First Colony Church of Christ. What is happening is a programmed change. There are specific guidelines on how to make changes and when to “back off” the pace of the changes. If you are in the know you will know that specific aspects of the way we do ‘church’ has changed and some changes are still coming and will be rolled out as the congregation can accept the change. When Ronnie started sitting down to do his sermon last year (which is fine), was that due to his health condition or was that because of coaching from an external source? When the children’s classes started having Guitar players sing children’s songs to them while they were in Sunday school and the players quickly exit before the parents picked them up, (Are parents aware what is going on? I wasn’t) was that not a change that the community church has facilitated? If you are interested in what I am suggesting, read the article about what happened to Madison church of Christ. That article was posted in 2002 and the path that man describes is similar to the one First Colony is on.

What I am concerned with is the method and the time line, which suggest an agenda.

One question: How could 28 elders that grew up in the Church of Christ, several were very conservative, agree on overturning such historically controversial issues? This is where I believe the “darkness” exists. I see the Delphi technique being administered. As warm and friendly as surveys and polls of the congregation seem, they have a purpose. I will cut and paste a definition here: If your not familiar with what it is - it is a manipulative method used by Governments, Organizations and Unions to cause a ‘pre-selected outcome' at a meeting, event, or function. Its usage is also implemented in any on line instrument such as a chat room, forum or newsgroup that has 'Moderators.'

Darkness! I think there has been some planning since 1999! Planning that has included deception of a lot of people. A lot of people at church are broken hearted and hurting and somehow changing the way we do a service helps! I think the Bible is speaking to First Colony church in Revelation 3:14. You know the riches people on the earth are not the people that have the most, but the people that need the least.

One last thing, I sat in the audience at Rick Atchley’s church for six years. He could inspire people to get out on a Sunday afternoon for weeks and help widows with their needs—and it was not a church program it was people doing what they felt they needed to do. It was not a habitat for humanity, it was people wanting to develop relationships with each other and work for good. I have witnessed his dynamic, change a great church and turn it downward into what it is now!
 
Click for the Market Driven Church.

The Delphi technique is named after the Oracle of Delphi: this was the "seeker center" of Apollo who is the Abaddon or Apollyon (Satan) in the book of Revelation.  It was from her that the girl with he divining spirit of Pythian spirit Paul cast out.

HERE IS WHAT JOHN WARNED ABOUT:

Rev. 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Rev. 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
Rev. 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

HERE IS THE MARK OF THE OPERATIVES:


Rev. 18:14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all

THUS hath the Lord God shewed unto me: and behold a basket of summer fruit. Amos 8:1

And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the Lord unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more. Amos 8:2

A basket:
Keluwb
(h3619) kel-oob'; from the same as 3611; a bird-trap (as furnished with a clap-stick or treadle to spring it); hence a basket (as resembling a wicker cage): - basket, cage.

As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich. Je.5:27

Keleb (h3611) keh'leb; from an unused root mean. to yelp, or else to attack; a dog; hence (by euphemism) a male prostitute: - dog.

For dogs have compassed me: the assembly [multitude, swarm] of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. Ps.22:16

Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter. Is.56:11

Rev. 18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone [prostitute] shall be heard no more at all in thee;
Rev. 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
Rev. 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

DON'T LET SATAN SNUFF OUT YOUR CANDLESTICK: THERE IS NO LAW OF GIVING TO BE AN ENABLER.

The present major HANDLER using dupes is David Faust of the NACC.  David was invited by an "insider" at Freed Hardeman University to speak of "unity." Of course, David unleashed his who "white paper" full of "black lies" which was published and used to fool churches of Christ. They all lie about the Old Testament.  You may plow through the rebuttal by clicking here.

King-Priest-Temple system as robbers and PARASITES. Musical Instruments are THE MARK of those who have decided to "shut God's face."  Therefore, you are following the 666 pattern of Chiun and Molech which is the PATTERNISM of burning infants God used as a type of Hell where He will beat his enemies there with wind, string and percussion instruments Lucifer--the singing and harp playing prostitute--brought into the garden to wholly seduce Eve.

Timeline leading up to the old Shepherding, Crossroads or International Church of Christ takeover.

I was asked to look at the "leadership" structure and comment:

Ronnie Norman is our Senior Minister. Ronnie's gifts of preaching and providing leadership to the church family continue to be a catalyst for effective ministry. Serving the church since 1985, Ronnie is the only Senior Minister in the history of First Colony. 1985 is about the time a small band of merry men concocted their plan and made masterful use of Machiavelli and Mein Kampf.  

Ronnie Norman became a Directing elder in 2004

A nasty conflict of interest. The Astrix denotes the older, original elders which existed before the planned conversion to a Shepherding movement

Dates they became elders: 2007, 2005, 2001, 1992, 2007, 2007, *1996, 2005, 2007, *1987, 2007, 2005, *1991, 2007, 2001, 2007, ronnie 2004, 2005, 2005, 2005, *1991, 2007, *1991, 2005, 2005, 2005, 2007,

You have a brand new CROP and THAT is part of the Purpose Driven scam.


Shepherding elders have been well defined by men like Rubel Shelly as SHEPHERDING THE MINISTER "who by training and charisma is best suited to be THE leader." By working with the deacons and staff you can see that you have been transistion from a Scriptural church of Christ where the elders are the TOTAL overseers and feeders of the flock who are named along with the deacons. This was charted by Rick Atchley using the PYRAMID because the NEW INSTITUTE is a virtual ziggurat or Tower of Babel where the agent of the gods sits up on top where the collection plate is located. The slaves sing and play instruments on their way to "lay by in store" being told that they will meet the gods or angels ascending and descending. The Mother of Harlots lives again.

Lynn Anderson used some slick willie pressure to get a very conservative eldership to permit him to hold

http://www.piney.com/Anderson-Shepherds.html

This was San Antonio June 19-21, 2003, so you can see that an OVERPOWERING crop of new elders undoubtedly infused by Ronnie Norman was just in time to "start boiling the frogs" because deception takes time and lots of planning. The SHEPHERDING elders will be the ones in contact and the old faithful elders have been KICKED UPSTAIRS.

I quote: "The first annual National Shepherd's Clinic will be held in San Antonio June 19-21, 2003 at Northside Church of Christ. Join me and hundreds of other church leaders for two rich days: Shepherding skills, Case studies from churches in transition, Moving from control to empowerment, Litigation-proofing your church....
    and Transitioning your church.
    Also Chris Seidman and Ronnie Norman presented strong keynote addresses.
In the Purpose Driven Cult "litigation" includes how to forge your bylaws so that when YOU steal the property the OWNERS cannot steal it back.

"The sessions addressed Transitioning:
Transition n 1: the act of passing from one state or place to the next [syn: {passage}] 2: an event that results in a transformation [syn: {conversion}, {changeover}] 3: a change from one place or state or subject or stage to another 4: a musical passage moving from one key to another [syn: {modulation}] 5: a passage that connects a topic to one that follows
Moving church leadership style from a Managing Board to a Shepherd's Circle of shepherding, mentoring and equipping. The agenda featured eight case studies from congregations at one stage or another along "Transition Trail" -- sharing both successes and difficulties.

Now you know that the old Managing Board has been usurped by a "Shepherd's Circle of Shepherding." Old Lynn lifts lots of stuff directly from Wicca or Witchcraft "patternism."

PATTERNISM OF PERFIDITY.


1985 marks the time when a small group banded together to transition YOUR church property away from you and turn it into what Lynn Anderson clearly defines as a Shepherding Cult.

1999 Comment from an observer or Rick Atchley total defection:
The email has been prolific with one more topic that has been stated by an elder, “our church will be more market driven”. Truly that would not trump a Faith driven church. Please once again Google “Market Driven Church”. A minister from a Bible church in Illinois described it best. I believe the minister’s last name is Gilley. I do not know if the elder is researching what he is saying about ‘market driven’ or if it just a buzz word that has no meaning to him.

Darkness! I think there has been some planning since 1999! Planning that has included deception of a lot of people. A lot of people at church are broken hearted and hurting and somehow changing the way we do a service helps! I think the Bible is speaking to First Colony church in Revelation 3:14. You know the riches people on the earth are not the people that have the most, but the people that need the least.
Here is how the Delphi technique works (and boy its effective). It is based upon the Hegelian Dialectic of creating ones own opposition in order to manipulate that opposition to a unified consensus. One exposing document from the Education Reporter accurately describes it:

In group settings, the Delphi Technique is an unethical method of achieving consensus on controversial topics. It requires well-trained professionals, known as "facilitators" or "change agents," who deliberately escalate tension among group members, pitting one faction against another to make a preordained viewpoint appear "sensible,” while making opposing views appear ridiculous.
A. This is well documented perfectly by Hitler in Mein Kampf who used the word SEEKER.
B. Here is where Hitler insisted that WE must SET ASIDE ALL DIVIDING FACTORS.
C. How THE leader must use Psychology and Propaganda had to run far in advance of organization and provide it with the human material to be worked on.
D. And don't forget the OCCULTIC view of the Volkish community.   This will define the Promise Keepers SHEPHERDING which Lynn Anderson is promoting. Don't forget that Max Lucado was a Vice President and promoter of the CULT.
2003 Teaching others by CASE STUDIES about how to TRANSISTION your church.
2004 Ronnie Norman gets to be a Directing Elder
Chris Seidman had turned the trick: they wrote a white paper filled with black lies and dared me to refute. I did.
Max Lucado had a VISION to remove CHRIST out of the way and ADD instruments: you understand just soft strings in maybe a class room. Lies. Wrote out his vision which parallels Chris Seidman which parallels the script handed to them by the NACC.
Rick Atchley--college roomie of Max--went next. The Holy Spirit guarded, guided and directed to do his sermons: all lies and the same script.
Mark Henderson was the next one to get goosed: same lies with Atchley's CD."
Having figured the LOSSES as acceptable in
2008 Ronnie Norman STACKS THE DECK and goes with the long-planned flow

Lynn Anderson's Shepherding Movement: DON'T JOIN ANY CIRCLES!

Lynn Anderson: Accountability Group (no more than 3) What are some good questions to ask each time 2 or 3 of us men meet to hold each other accountable. What are the do's and don'ts of such a commitment...size limits...suggestions for such a commitment. If women want to do this, what accountability questions would be asked in this case? Your ideas and experiences and suggested resources please. We are ministers wanting to lead holy lives before our community in the hope that we may have opportunities to minister and teach.

Maybe something I say about this can be of help.
I think we all know that accountability is an essential part of Christianity in that we are to help each other grow and become sharpened as iron sharpens iron.

Accountability questions need to be positive focused, direct, and geared toward motivating people to grow.

This type of accountability can be hard but it is where people really grow. Especially us ministers have a hard time admitting our faults for fear of discovery and losing our jobs and/or reputations. The end result is that many of us live double lives with secret sin being our second god that we worship when no one else is looking.

Obviously in some cases this deeper type of accountability is only appropriate within all male or all female groups.

Accountability groups only work when there is trust and openness. This may take a while to develop.


Give it time and START SLOW until you feel that your relationship can progress into these more INTIMATE areas.

Here's the list from Steve Farrar's "Point Man" (Promise Keepers)

1. Have you been with a woman this week in such a way that was inappropriate or could have looked to others that you were using poor judgment?

2. Have you been completely above reproach in all your financial dealings this week?

3. Have you exposed yourself to any explicit material this week?

4. Have you spent daily time in prayer and in the Scriptures this week?

5. Have you fulfilled the mandate of your calling this week?

6. Have you taken time off to be with your family this week?

7. Have you just lied to me?  


As implimented OPERATIVES claim to use violence on non-conformers: nothing more violent than lying to steal the church house of widows.

Actually, Hope Network Ministries exists to coach, mentor and equip spiritual leaders. For that reason we do not use our web site to process doctrinal issues, denominational peculiarities or personalities.

Rather we use this forum to encourage christian leaders, share ministry resources, coach and respond to questions regarding strategies, systems, skills etc. - things of this nature.


I will add notes to prove that all of these people are deliberately lying about all of the "instrument" passages in the Bible and known history. They are RESTORING the Monarchy thread of the sacrificial system which God imposed as a curse because of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai.

Ken Sublett
   

I will supply in confidence any facts you need to defend yourself. Rest assured that the position of the Church of Christ rejecting music is both Biblical and Historic.


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