Jesus and the Samaritian woman at the well - John 4:13-30

Dr. Rubel Shelly and the Woman at the well. By reincarnating her into a carnal person who defended "her church" we may miss the point that not Even the Only Incarnated God resents asking for His credentials.

Because Jesus "came out to preach" Jesus HAD TO PASS THROUGH Samaria to meet the Samaritan woman at the well. She asked for and he gave her His credentials without tears or falsely accusing her of causing suffering. One who does the will of God will be persecuted and one who is loved and applauded is probably disqualified:

For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully. 1 Peter 2:19

For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God. 1 Peter 2:20

For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us,

leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 1 Peter 2:21

The modern "hot house" sites on the web have no trouble teaching their false doctrine and promoting those who join them. However, they fall into tears and "blacklist" anyone who questions the theology of the "favorites."

Jesus would disqualify anyone who teaches anything which cannot be defended. Our only review is to show that the Samaritan woman didn't "sass God's annointed" by questioning whether He represented the "right church." To foster an environment which rejects questioning is to be overcome by human psychology so that we can no longer grasp the Mind or Spirit of Christ.

A History of the Samaritans

During Solomon's life the musical Levites as "overseers" drove the slaves to build the temple where the wealth of the "family" was collected. After Solomon died the northern ten tribes set up their own temple on Mount Gerizim. When the Assyrians took the land in about 722 B.C. the capable Isralites were deported and replaced by Nearn Eastern captives. These were Gentiles and usually polytheists. The remaining Israelites went "ecumenical" with the pagans. They worshiped Jehovah but accepted only Genesis - Deuteronomy as canonical. Mount Zion was rejected and Mount Gerizim was declared to be the place of Deut. 11:29; 14:23.

Their "church" was a false church and Jesus encountered the woman at the well to tell us so.

The "Jew's" church was correct.

Therefore, Jesus didn't get upset when the Samaritan woman questioned any notion of a ecumenical church.

Teaching the Apostles the way of prophets and apostles

Evangelists must go out and depend upon the land. Furthermore, they must be found going through the areas of the world to preach. Jesus told His apostles to travel "without purse or bag." (Matt.10:10; Mk.6:8; Lk.10:4; 22:35-36). This taught them to depend upon Him. Paul further defined the "wages" of the evangelist as the daily dole of the soldier or the gleanings of a threshing oxen. The oxen who does not go out into the fields white unto harvest shall not glean.

The Urban Legend About Jesus and the Samaritan woman at the well.

The widespread myth or urban legend is that Jesus encountered the Samaritan woman to close our mouth about discussing where and how we will worship. This is a defacto denunciation of the freedom to decide that our beliefs are correct and therefore those which are diametrically opposed to ours are wrong. The illogical conclusion, however, is that

"my church is better than your church because my church does not question your church."

The fact is that if "honesty with words" is part of a "total-life honesty" we can "dig the wells deeper" and see that Jesus defined a right religion and a wrong religion. However, both were being replaced by a return to a "patriarchal" system which "leapfrogged" the legalistic Monarchy with priests, levites and musical worship teams for the uppercrust.

One formulation states that the Samaritan woman changed the subject to defend her "church" as the correct one:

"Honesty with words is only one component of total-life honesty before the Lord. When Jesus challenged the Samaritan woman he met at Jacob's well to worship God "in spirit and in truth," that's what he was asking for from her (John 4:24).

Jesus had asked the woman for a drink of water and said, "Go, call your husband." She responded that "I have no husband."

Now, the urban legend foundation reads:

Jesus said to her, "You are right when you say you have no husband. The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true."

"Sir," the woman said, "I can see that you are a prophet. Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem" (John 4:17-20).

The plot says that Jesus wanted to talk about life-giving water but she wanted to compare churches:

"No! She wanted to change the subject from salvation to church! That is, she threw out the old Samaritan-Jew debate about the location and manner of worship as an alternative topic to her need for a Savior.

Verse 15 is interposed in my version:

The woman saith unto him, Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw. John 4:15

Jesus then began to tell her that her morality was not right because of her serial marriages. Then, maybe, she wanted to change the subject from discussing unlawful marriages and divorces rather than ask for His forgiveness for multiple adultery.

So, in the Living Bible, she asks for an honest answer to an honest question:

Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. John 4:20LIV

The line of salvation did not flow through the Samaritans but through the Jews as the tiny remnant which would bring forth Messiah:

Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. John 4:21

Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship; for salvation is of the Jews. John 4:22

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. John 4:23

The Samaritan Woman: Testing the Spirits -- an Absolute Responsibility of Honesty.

One doubts that the Samaritan woman was "into" the "whose church is right debate." One doubts that she went to "church." Perhaps she was not into buying a slightly used chariot. She may have understood the right of every person when--

Jesus as Spirit through John demanded:

BELOVED, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 1 John 4:1

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 1 John 4:2

And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 1 John 4:3


The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. John 4:25

Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he. John 4:26


Don't ever believe anything a preacher tells you unless you have determined that he has built upon the Rock because the "many" of Paul's letters had built upon the sand. The content of the wineskin may not be "living water" but dead and deadly "new wine."

We believe that the nature of the teacher and his "church" was vitally important. The Israelites of old could sing, drink, sacrifice and eat the animals of the poor in Samaria. They could tolerate whores right in their "family." They celebrated themselves and allowed the people to hunger and thirst for the Word of God.

The woman was not a mind reader and had no duty to subscrie to the "salvation" imagined by the Urban Legend. He might have been recruiting temple prostitutes for all she knew. And He did not ask her to believe every itenerant Jew willing to talk to a Samaritan woman.

The Samaritans had gone even beyond the musical idolatry of Israel and therefore Jesus could never endorse their "church" in the interest of "salvation." Those saved are added to the church.

This woman existed as a "Samaritan" because the Israelites in Samaria had been taken into captivity and all but the useless died there. The woman may have heard Amos read and known why she was a "half-breed."

And the songs of the temple shall be howlings in that day, saith the Lord God: there shall be many dead bodies in every place; they shall cast them forth with silence. Amos 8:3

And I will turn your feasts into mourning, and all your songs into lamentation; and I will bring up sackcloth upon all loins, and baldness upon every head; and I will make it as the mourning of an only son, and the end thereof as a bitter day. Amos 8:10

If even the Israelites prior to the Samaritan "ecumenical movement" had invited you to church you would have been wise to ask: "Is your 'church' faithful to the Word of God." "Are you going to throw me into 'exhilaration' with wine, women and song just to get my money?"

Everyone has that freedom in Christ and the cannabalism over "church differences" should never intimidate you into fear of questioning the credentials of a church or its "pastor."

Not even Jesus or Paul put themselves beyond questioning and criticism. Inexact speach can still invite questions.

Why? Because in self-pity they will probably take away "the keys to knowledge" and proof text as violence against personal enemies. Here is how you can tell whether the performing men and women have stolen your water. In Samaria Amos warned that "their church" was a false church ignoring God's Word and worshiping themselves through wine, women and music:

Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water,

but of hearing the words of the Lord: Amos 8:11

And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it. Amos 8:12

In that day shall the fair virgins and young men faint for thirst. Amos 8:13

They that swear by the sin of Samaria, and say, Thy god, O Dan, liveth; and, The manner of Beer-sheba liveth; even they shall fall, and never rise up again. Amos 8:14

I saw the Lord standing upon the altar: and he said, Smite the lintel of the door, that the pillars may shake: and cut them in the head, all of them; and I will slay the last of them with the sword: he that fleeth of them shall not flee away, and he that escapeth of them shall not be delivered. Amos 9:1

It was important to discuss "churches" because hers was false based upon rejecting all but the first books of the Old Testament.

If we subscribe to the "core gospel" of a few facts about Jesus and reject the rest of His record through the Apostles then we are the equivalent to the Samaritans. Therefore, those who use the whole New Testament have the Samaritan's right to question the peddlers of new wine disguised as the Water of the Word. This will give us the power to question everyone without falling into the "whose church is right" trap.

She may not have heard about the prophets denouncing the worship under the Monarchy where music replaced the Word.

Church WAS the subject:

She really wanted to know "by whose authority do you teach and why should I believe you and trust you?" Jesus read her mind to prove that He was not part of the lying clergy in Gerizim. Who but a fool would accept the teaching of a Jew who would encounter a Samaritan women without checking credentials.

Jesus did this to validate His right to teach something which she did not know. Her response was not to change the debate to whose ecumenical church should I attend:

The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet. John 4:19

Her question was to meet His claim as a Jew:

Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. John 4:20

Jesus did not "preach" to her but dialoged. His answer fit her honest question needed to make dialog possible. He did not "dodge and weave" to navigate her into His "church."

In order to get her to drink the Spiritual Words of Jesus He had to get her off the sacred mountains as the "navel" of the spiritual world:

Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall

neither in this mountain,
nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. John 4:21

The difference in Christianity is that worship is not in time, place or musical (i.e. sacrificial) offerings.

However, for now and contrary to the Urban Legend,

Jesus said, "My 'church' is the correct place and

therefore your's is not the correct place:

Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship;
for salvation is of the Jews. John 4:22

Ignorant worship is vain worship. Therefore, it is not a matter of conscience or a claim to be "the one true church." There is truth and there is falsehood. The Samaritan "church" was false and Jesus said so.

Jesus might say, "So you have acknowledged that I am a prophet and therefore I have the authority to tell you that

the "church of the Samaritans" is not a true-blue "church."

Those places were to bear witness to the curse of both Jew and Samaritan for ignoring God's Word and replacing it with the musical "play" at Mount Sinai. Now, that is the Biblical truth and we are not lying.

However, Jesus said that things are about to change from external temples to internal, personal temples which have room only for the worshiper and God:

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. John 4:23

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. John 4:24

God is pure or Holy Spirit, we have a spirit. That "spirit" is the mind, the heart, the innermost being. That is the only place worship can possible take place with a Spirit God. No one can get in there with you: just you and God.

Now, "church" as "synagogue" is something else: it is more "school" than temple and therefore has no rituals of praise.

The legend continues:

"That's when Jesus bored in on the real issue. "Dear lady, won't you get past these fascinating diversions so we can talk about your real needs?" he was asking. "Won't you see that worship is a matter of spirit (i.e., your heart linked to God's heart) and truth (i.e., your brokenness acknowledged in total honesty) rather than hill and house?"

Jesus took the questions about "credential" in an adult way and gave her an honest answer to an honest question. That was not a facinating diversion but the first issue which must be established if a stranger knocks on your door.

The truth is that Jesus didn't say that "church is the place to worship but you must worship 'in spirit' not with new-wine-like "exhilaration." He said: "Worship is NOT in time and place." The "place" of the Synagogue was school and not "worship center" or "venue for Rock, Rap and CCM." And, there "was no praise service in the Synagogue."

The Place of Worship has Changed

"In spirit" does not mean to stroke the tender places of the body by a team to create body worship. We are told that women like to talk about "feelings" or "being moved" while men like to talk about doing things. Mind manipulation therefore only works with women and some men. Men had rather "dialog." This woman still had her rational mind.

We believe that Gerizim was an "old place" and therefore "spirit" is a new place. "In Spirit" does not mean "inspirited" and certainly not the enthus-o-mania of Philo or the Madness of Corinth.

Jesus declared the "place" of prayer to be the "closet" or the secret places of the mind.

There is no other alternative because "the kingdom of God is within you."

The Resource of Worship has Changed

The Law as curse and Canaanite Baalism music was the "resource" of the Jews and Samaritans but now "the truth" or the Words of Christ or "Spirit" (John 6:63) are the new resource. Worship is "facilitated" only when we muse or meditate on God's Word as He speaks to us.

"Speaking our own words" was the false sabbath of the Jews but now speaking the Words of Christ or "Spirit" is the way we "preach or teach" one another and allow (please) the singing and melody (grinding to bits) to remain in the heart and not allowed to attack the body as a pagan-like "rape" or rapture or "enthusiasm."


The urban legend that Jesus repudiated the woman at the well and her "changing the subject" from salvation to "my church is better thatn your church."

That is reading the mind of both Jesus and the woman and has the clear motive of violence against those who still question the place, resources and methods of worship of any church.

The honest fact is that the Woman at the Well was not intimidated by the claim of preachers to be "annointed by God" or selected and trained by the sovereign grace of God and therefore you must not question any claims.

The honest fact is that she obeyed a clear Spiritual principle to test the spirits.

The honest fact is that Jesus did not throw a pity party but answered her question with both integrity and honesty.

Only after you have tested the spirit or credentials including motive is it Christ-ordained to accept claims of "salvation."

The Test of the Prophet and the Way

Jesus demanded and therefore probably appreciated the Samaritan Woman for having a mind. He said elsewhere:

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Matthew 7:13

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Matthew 7:14

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 7:15

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Matthew 7:16

Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. Matthew 7:17

A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Matthew 7:18

Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Matthew 7:19

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Matthew 7:20

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Matthew 7:21

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Matthew 7:22

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:23

The Test of a Church

The word "church" is a most deceptive and mind-altering word. The thing Jesus established was not a temple or "worship center." He continued the Patriarchal practice that there are no priests and certainly no Levitical musical worship teams to "excel over" the slaves.

That tradition throughout the Old Testament was defined by a word which means "synagogue." The time and place was for education or edification.

Any "worship time" one gets cannot, by definition, be in theatrical performance by another: preacher, priest or clergy musicians.

Again, the Woman at the well was not "preacher-cowed" but asked for the credentials of Jesus.

Jesus gave her the credentials without singing:

"Don't break my heart,
My whiney, piney heart.

Or of accusing her of a fascinating diversion. Neither should we judge. She asked whose "church" was correct and Jesus told her the fact: your's is wrong because it is not built upon the whole Word of God and it is the "church" Amos condemned for making worship "in the body" and not in the spirit or mind.

The water at the well was free of charge but you needed to take a "bucket" to fill up. The same is true of the Word as Spirit and Life (Isaiah 55; John 6:63). When you go to the well to get Spirit or the Water of life you need to have a mental bucket.

The Word had been taken away from the Samaritans with "new wine" and instrumental music as the weapons of choice. One can believe that Jesus was commenting on Amos to prove that He (the Spirit of Christ) had already disqualified the Samaritan "church" and disbanded it and sent the people into Assyria and they would never return.

Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water,

but of hearing the words of the Lord: Amos 8:11

And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it. Amos 8:12

In that day shall the fair virgins and young men faint for thirst. Amos 8:13

The woman's "Samaria" was a further blend of paganism and Jesus was there to restore the "water" taken away by the false teachers of Israel.

Both the Samaritans and a million Jews would be destroyed because their musical festivals prevented them from hearing the warning of Jesus. The tiny remnant of Jews went wandering through the deserts of the world looking for "spiritual water."

Those who repudiated both Gerizim and Jerusalem as "time and place" and worshiped in spirit and in truth because "the kingdom of God is within you" were saved: not a believer died from hunger and thirst when Jerusalem was captured.

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