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Left wing religionists and Right wing religionists are attached to the
same insect: the ony way to fly is to beat their wings together.
Like he shell game: always bet that the pea is under NEITHER
shell. That is why you need to grasp that the are:
who say to
the
prophets Report
not
to us; and to them
that see vislons,
Speak
them not to us,
but speak and report to
us another error, Isaiah 14:10 LXX
and
turn
us aside from this
way,
remove from us
this path,
and remove
from us the oracle of lsrael. Isaiah 30:11 LXX
Therefore
thus saith the Holy One of Israel,
Because
ye have refused to obey
these words
and have trusted in falsehood;
and
because thou hast murmured,
and been confident
in
this respect: Isaiah 30:12
LXX
The Ex-Church of Christ sects have developed some very warped
views of the history and practicie of the Church of Christ. The church
existed in all periods of history as The Church of Christ, rejected
singing as a legal ACT until 373 in some places and always rejected
Instruments because they understood the flood of bad press beginning
with Lucifer "the singing and harp playing prostitute" in the garden of
Eden up to the Mother of Harlost (Rev 17) who uses "lusted after
fruits" as rhetoricians, singers and instrument players. John called
the SORCERERS which also identifies the Harlot in the garden of Eden
called a Musical Enchater(ess) where she/he/it wholly seduced Even in a
sexual sense says Paul.
4.27.08 What is a Sectarian or Heretic? Ex-church
of Christ and some still on the DOLE love to claim that by NOT bowing
and adding musical instruments (machines) even after 2,000 years makes
them SECTARIAN because they continue to teach what the Bible and all
recorded history writes AGAINST music as a machine or weapon which
heretics USE to attract and fleeces the masses. However, a sectarian or
heretic is always the one who IMPOSED something not required into
practices of a church. Going deeper which most Greek Geeks dare not go,
is some really vile stuff associated with music when used to alter
people's minds.
4.27.08 Paul
and Silas in Prision: what does the PYTHIAN spirit
mean to us?
What the Sectarian Anti-Sectarians will not attack is the
fact that:
1. There is no LAW of giving: rejected by all history and
the Restoration Movement.
2. There is no LAW of singing: Psalms only in the beginning
3. There is no LAW of Preaching or LAW of listening: it was
outlawed in the synagogue and OUT-TOOK in all of the New Testament and
early history until it like music "was adopted because it was common to
all pagan cults.
The Ex-Church of Christ people reject a church's
right to publically
teach their views against instrumental music. That view has been held
by almost everyone for most of church history. At they same
time
they praise the Quail Springs leadership for deliberately sowing
discord and "ejecting the owners from the synagogue" as violently as
any of their Jewish examples. We have shown that all of the
"preacher's stories" twist all of the Bible and church history and
confess to restoring the curse of the sacrificial system which God
imposed BECAUSE of musical idolatry. We have posted three reviews of
Mark Henderson's sermons and this does not exhaust our review. The
method is to look at a quoted verse or mention of a historical event
and then claim that they have been LED to claim that "God commanded us
to go and do likewise."
Matthew
11 "Peck" and "Marc s"
have made a career out of defending the forms of invasion of the
musical body snatchers and others accuse those of being perverts who
post data proving that the musicians were such, I have warned about for
ages. I have posted some quick notes from Jesus the Christ to prove
that the singers and instrument players were the perverted operatives
of Dionysys the "god of the new wineskin." Dionysus was the god of the
Agora or marketplace and the Jews hoped that John and Jesus were just
such characters. I know of no exception in history which does
not
mark religious performers as hypocrites (by Jesus) and perverted
operatives of the Mother of harlots (John 17) which were the "lusted
after FRUITS" John defined as sorcerers (Revelation 18).
The Ekklesia: A school of the Bible where we SPEAK
that which
is written or a "theater for holy entertainment" staffed by
rhetoricians, singers, musicians, organ players and all of the other
hypocritic acts. The word SPEAK means the OPPOSITE of all but verbal
instruction. The ekklesia has no right to initiate new
Is Instrumental Music (especially) Sorcery and
Apollyon's replacement of MUSIC as the WASHER to replace baptism.
Question on another forum.
Reed
Shaken By the Wind
When Jesus asked whether the "seekers" expected that John would be the
regular charismatic prophesier, He used the idea of SHAKEN WIND and of
SOFT CLOTHING. The shaken reed was a mark of perverted
dionysus
worship: they PIPED hoping that Jesus and others would sing and dance.
The SOFT clothing is the mark of the king's Catamite or male prostitute
which also speaks of "soft" music used to arouse a younger male.
And so all of the PSALLO words speaking of PLUCKING the harp
strings point to older males seducing a younger male. This is
also the message of Revelation 17-18 and identifies the worship of the
perverse Mother Goddess now making a full attack. The very
late
use of the word PSALLO to justify this religion has DEEPTER roots than
most sowers of discord can grasp.
Mark Henderson Review One
We link Terry Rush review
where we have posted proof that the sacrificial--loud noise system was
imposed as a curse. Hezekiah through the Spirit Of Christ claims that
they kings and priests had enslaved them and they were common grade
PARASITES.
Mark Henderson Review Two
Mark Henderson Review Three
The Law of Silence repudiated.
See
Jeremiah 7 as an example. People have not trouble claiming
the
role of Jesus Christ as both the "receivers" of the Spirit of God and
speaking forth words, but they claim the authority from silence to
INVENT ceremonial legalism under the sham of "worship" and claim the
authoridy to LADE the people down with burdens Jesus Himself died to
remove. Pretty dangerous.
Ex-Church of
Christ on Pharisees and Instrumental Music.
Really a distortion of facts: X church of christ people have a perfect
right but they do not have a right to mount a blood vendetta using what
everyone knows to be a distortion of all of the facts.
This addresses the thread on Mark Henderson
at Quail springs: the attack was against those who publically opposed
Qual Springs decision to deliberately Sow Discord by adding
instrumental music. The "proof texts" were supplied by an agent of the
NACC, David Faust. The handfull of churches of Christ
diverted into the use of instrumental music have all been seduced by so
called "Unity Meetings" in which the Christian Church presents their
full load of "proofs" for the use of instruments. Unfortunately, all of
them are lies to God and About God. Furthermore, all of the
psallo proof texts for instruments point directly to older males
plucking a harp to seduce a young man. The Ex-Church of
Christ forum removed all of the clear Biblical texts in any way related
to the use of instruments/
It is common fodder for the them to identify the Church of Christ
as a cult: perhaps because the Restoration Movement a Baptists,
Alexander
Campbell, converted most of them to the Biblical view.
This blaming the discorded who had their church and family lives
stolen, they have placed the blame on those who responded to
intentional publicity with public repudiation: and so say all of the
13,500 congregations excepting five or six of the original plotters
with the NACC.
Unfortunately, the Ex-Church of Christ moderators
will not answer the question of whether it is also vile to deliberately
sow discord and lie about all of the Bible and known history.
Ex-Church of Christ could not rebut one of my proof
text from the
Bible, but then asks:
Regardless
this
still does not
answer the question of why
instrumental music is an important issue
to God? Just because we have
no accounts of Jesus worshiping with instrumental music that therefor
means that instrumental music is evil?
I'm sorry but I don't follow
your logic. I think
you are far to caught
up in apologetics and the minute legalism of a VERY
SMALL issue.
Those who impose instrumental music now claim that God COMMANDED the
use of instrumental music BECAUSE they think that He commanded it for
making the curse of animal sacrifices as exorcism after telling them
that the kings would lead them into captivity and Death. Darron L. Steel
Then one might ask, to prove that this is not honest, would the NACC
make a 25 year effort to sow discord to force unity by forcing
Scriptural churches to IMPOSE musical instruments which always marked
paganism and perversions. I posted some material to prove
that the use of the Old Testament use of instruments for "prophesying"
was exactly what John called sorcery in Revelation 18:23 of the
rhetoricians, singers and musicians who were lusted after FRUITS under
the Mother of Harlots (rev 17)
We will show that the MEANING of NOMOS or legalism is the use of
musical instruments to spread the laws of Apollo using the Muses or
dirty adulterers. Apollo is Abaddon or Apollon of Revelation.
It is important because music DISABLES the learning process
so that by
the time the preacher comes on they can't remember even the title of
his sermons by the time they get homes. The MARK
is of shutting
God's face: I call that important.
Their very hate-filled attack on the non-instrumentalists
distorts all known history because it bleeds of those also dedicated to
destroying all who will not bow to ball and use instruments.
Th
This is a common false claim of preachers who missed the Old Testament:
Darron L. Steele Unity paper:
Acts 13, 14, 17 and 18 report
Christians participating in synagogue
worship, and thereby worship with musical instruments; synagogues had
shofars, a type of horn.
The fact is that the synagogue began as the church in the wilderness:
it included rest, reading and rehearsing the Word of God. It excluded
both bocal and instrument rejoicing. That was the musical triumph over
Psalm 41 prophesied that Judas would try on Jesus.
The synagogue was
more organized after the Return and the sacrificial system officially
ceased when the Edomites (generation of vipers) took control of the
temple. The temple had been dormant for four hundred years except when
the Zeus-Dionysus introduced music IN the holy places along with women
and perverted 'minsiters." Most faithful Israelites had long left
Jerusalem and the Jews called it HEROD'S temple and do not count it as
the third temple.
We have no Biblical evidence of any INSTRUMENTS being played when Jesus
and others met in the COURT YARD far removed from any holy places. They
assembled there because that is where they could preach the
gospel.
Secular history says that the Feast of Tabernacles was a music and
talent show: Jesus refused to go to Jerusalem for these festivities.
Not surprising, the musical festival was the time and place
the clergy intended to capture Jesus and murder Him. That IS the only
PATTERNISM of the use of music to make war.
Alan
Morrrison notes:
R.P.
Martin says in his
interesting book on worship in the early church that the reading and exposition
of the Scriptures is "an
inheritance we
have received, through the early church, from the worship of Judaism,
and which makes the model Christian service a Word-of-God service".
From
the outset, church worship
was a "Word-of-God
service". The truths
of
the Bible were at the heart of worship. And this
was also true
insofar as the singing of songs was concerned.
It
was the synagogues that remained after
AD.70, NOT the Temple! The
original purpose of the synagogue was primarily for Scripture-reading and exposition
of the passages read
(Lk.4:16-22; Mt.13:54; Mk.1:21-22; Jn.6:59).
There
was also prayer (Mt.6:5)
and, although there is no specific mention in the literature of singing in the synagogue, it is
considered most
likely "that
those parts of the Liturgy
which
were connected with Temple worship, like the recitation of
psalms...were sung" So
long as one's
idea of worship is rooted in the Temple concept, one will crave
"celebrations" and
big displays. The charismatic
style of worship
naturally arises out of
this false
concept of the O.T. Temple.
However,
the chief element in
synagogue worship -- its central factor -- was not ceremonial or display
but something which was of
vital importance to the shaping of the subsequent life of the local
churches upon which the synagogue was so influential.
That
element was
the reading
and exposition of Scripture. Worship in the Early
Church involved
"Word-of-God" services. Ralph Martin
very appropriately called
the reading and exposition of Scripture "the
centre of gravity of the synagogue's service,
with the blessings and prayers gathered around it"
THAT is what Jesus
attended
each Sabbath and endorsed the standing up
to READ and then decently sitting down. History knows that "that there
was no praise service." That was by direct command in Numbers and
common decency when you hold Bible class.
I have shown that the Temple-State was abandoned to Sabazianism which
harkens back to Dionysus worship. Secondly, the levitical musicians who
are never said to have made music but disturbing noise, were under the
king and commanders of the Army. I have shown that their prophesying
was a form of madness intending to drive the enemy into panic and
cowardice. And that the Psalms outside of a record of history
are
connected to making war and not making worship.
"Many
of the Psalms are expressive of the parade
dance, or dance procession, in a way which show it
to have been the
characteristic form of the festival (Psalms 30:12, 87:7,
149:3, 150:4; Is. 30:29) and
that this was where many
of the Psalms were used." ( W. O. E. Osterley,
The Sacred Dance (Cambridge:
N. P., 1923), p. 94)
That is because David was a "king given in God's anger" and the warrior
musicians were under the King and Commanders of the Army. The
NOISE is to make war and never to make worship. As for the shofar used
to call the assembly:
"The
Shofar
is the ritual instrument of the ancient and modern Hebrews, the only
Hebrew cultural instrument to have survived until now. Of martial
origin, the shofar
was
a priestly instrument in Biblical
times. According to the
Mishna, two different forms of shofar were used in the Temple: one
made of ibex horn, its bell ornamented with gold, was sounded at New
Year and during the Yovel Days;
one made of ram's horn, with silver
ornamentation, was sounded on fast days."Only in
Ps 150:3 is it (shophar) mentioned with most of the other really
musical instruments. Hence, we must conclude that the function of the
shophar was to make noise--be
it of earthly or of eschatological
character--but not to
make music....not
to
make music. After the destruction
of the temple and the general banishment of all instrumental
music, the shophar alone survived,
just
because it was not a
musical instrument."
(Interpreters Dictionary of the Bible, p. 473,
Abingdon).
It is one thing to be Ex-church of Christ but it is not if you are not
informed about the reason it repudiates Instrumental Music.
Because they destroyed
all
my good research, I will take some time to rebuild it.
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Kenneth Sublett
3.20.08