David Young North Boulevard Church Predestination
Jude 3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation,
it was needful for me to write unto you,
and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which
was once delivered unto the saints.
Jude 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares,
who were before of old ordained to this condemnation,
ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness,
and denying the only Lord God, [trinity is antichristian]
and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jude 5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this,
how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt,
afterward destroyed them that believed not. [fell into instrumental-trinitarian idolatry]
Jude 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate,
but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains
under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha,
and the cities about them in like manner,
giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh,
are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
2. 18.16 ALL mentions of instrumental noise is called sorcery and the speakers, singers, players in Revelation will be CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.
The elders and "leader" makes the following accusations intending, as they boast, to infiltrate and divert your congregation to their own wicked purposes.
- Legalistic 2 times
- Just our Tradition or Traditional 20 Times.
[This is a lie: vocal and instrumental rejoicing was outlawed for the Church of Christ in the Wilderness.
- Style or Styles of WORSHIP 16 Times
Jesus said that the kingdom does not come with religious observations: the School of Christ is the antithesis of the always-pagan worship rituals. Jesus named self-speakers, singers and instrument players hypocrites.
- Method or Methods 9 Times [Elders as THE pastor-teachers are commanded to TEACH that which HAS BEEN TAUGHT.
- Customs 2 [Not using instruments is a Direct Command known by all bible students]
- A NEW Language 7 Times [They claim that the Bible is to be interpreted by a NEW REVELATIONS: the 20/20 vision CASTING is a witchcraft or sorcery word]
- Just our Heritage 2 [That's a lie]
- Freedom 22 Times--is something WE OFFER YOU. [Christ freed us from laded burden and burden laders: performance musicians a a TAX not in time of war.
- Just our Opinions 11 Times [That's a lie]
- Pharisee 2 [Jesus called preachers for hire, singers and instrument players PHARISEES]
- Continuity with the Past 2 [He means WE will OFFER both vocal and instrumental]
- Judgment 8 [Judgment is the Purpose Driven Cults Infiltrate and Divert your newly financed property]
- Not using INSTRUMENTS HINDERS the Work of God
- Because this is DISCORDING WE will move slowly. [Frogs might jump out of the Collection plate vat]
North.Boulevard.Church.Of.Christ.Change - A New Day's thesis is that we have been wrong for these 2,000 years but WE have a new vision by a Direct Operation of THE holy spirit. Missed Prepositions 101.
The Kairos Church Planting Plot: Kairos (Hermes-Mercury) is the demon son of Zeus among pagans. He is the false Christ Who is the only mediator between God and Man. Kairos means the right time to mount an attack as Jesus came at the right time to put down the Civil-Military-Clergy robbing and enslaving those God liberated. Christ's Covenant is to the LAITY exclusive of Priests or Levites.Elders.North.Boulevard.Church.Approve.Instrumental.Worship
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Coming: North Boulevard Church of Christ Trinitarian: John writes that ANTI-christs deny. Among Pagans: Jesus was called a Son only after He was baptized and He was not Lord or Christ until the One God the Father MADE HIM TO BE:
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
1Cor. 8:5 For though there be that are called gods,
whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
1Cor. 8:6 But to us there is but one God [Theos], the Father,
of whom are all things, and we in him;
and one Lord [Kurios] Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
The North Boulevard Church of Christ began by promoting Rick Warren's Purpose Driven Church or Cult. We are not permitted to listen to David Young's Sermon on PREDESTINATION but this is consistent with the Neo-Calvinism of Lipscomb University with the Reformed influence. Being "scholars" they have never read any real John Calvin nor the Bible except to find proof texts.* The concept of Predestination is that God works or CAUSES every cell in your body to do what He predestinated from eternity. When Rick Warren's son killed himself he was bound to say that in effect God KILLED HIM by moving all of the cells in the son's body.
This a Satanic idea because there is not a single passage which teaches the TULIP version of the Purpose Driven Cult. John Calvin said as much about free will as predestination. However, the "theologians" have never read John Calvin's writings nor the Bible other than to lift out verses.
The Jews believed that they were PREDESTINATED and "Father Abraham stands by the gates of hell to prevent ANY Jew from entering in."
Paul's ONLY message is that the Jews are NOW commanded (PreCounciled) to be comformed to the image of Jesus Christ and walk by HIS WORDS. Using the Levites as a pattern for Musical Worship Teams may refute gloating.
This was to PREVENT the JEWS from continuing to boast that THEY WERE SPECIAL in the same way that David Young boasts that HE is special and cannot be lost.
This the arrogance and pride based on SELF WORTH and Legalism which means to perform preaching, singing, playing instruments, acting, shouting, dancing, clapping, hugging and kissing. 1 Corinthians 10 has the same message as Romans 8-11:
ARROGANCE AND BEING LIFTED UP WITH PRIDE IS THE LUCIFER MARK. DAVID says that God MADE his crown from eternity past. However, Paul said that
1Cor. 9:24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize?
So RUN, that ye may obtain.
1Cor. 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things.
Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
1Cor. 9:26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
1Cor. 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection:
lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
How can David and the elders become CASTAWAYS if they CANNOT become castaways?
Here is what they claim CANNOT happen if you get baptized at North Boulevard and get "a" holy spirit person living inside of you.
The locusts were called "musical prophesiers." The muses as shepherdesses were the musical worship team of Abaddon or Apollyon at Delphi. Paul cast out the Pythian spirit from the young girl.
If you adorn a place you claim is holy where you can lead people into God's presence such as a speaker, praise singer, instrument player or anyone who claims that they can guild the lily Anathema means that God has DEDICATED you to the Harem
Anathēma votive offering set up in a temple, Hdt.1.14,92, S.Ant.286, etc.; “a. ek leitourgiōn” [III. public service of the gods] Lys.26.4.
agalma, delight, ornament, “molpē t' orkhēstus 3. of a slave in a temple
If you claim to adorn a holy place such as a temple you CANNOT be redeemed and you must be burned. You are a glory or delight for the church and are agalma khōras a., of an ode, Pi.N.3.13 2. pleasing gift, esp. for the gods, “a. theōn” Od.8.509, of a bull adorned for sacrifice, “Kharēs eimi . . a. tou Apollōnos”
3. of a slave in a temple, a. poleōs devoted to this service by the city, E.Ion310.—Cf. anathema.A Church of Christ by definition can have no LITURGICAL ACTIONS
If you claim to be the leader of liturgy the demand is serve public offices at one's own cost,
2. perform religious service, minister, “epi tōn hierōn” D.H.2.22; “tō Kuriō” Act.Ap.13.2, etc. (Written lit- in Rev.Et.Anc.32.5 (Athens, i B.C.), etc., cf. leitourgion, leitourgos.）
Acts 13:1 Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.
Acts 13:2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said,
Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.
Acts 13:3 And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.
leitourg-ia A.public service performed by private citizens at their own expense thera^p-eia service paid to the gods worship of Apollo Agyieus,
Paul commanded that Timothy WORK so that he could sponsor the Agape to feed the workers and not be fed.
Molp-ē , hē, (melpō) A.dance OR rhythmic movement with song, Od. 6.101, Il.18.606.): metaph., ou m. suriggos ekhōn the note, S.Ph.212
Aristotle Politics 8
-[1342a] it is clear that we should employ all the harmonies, yet not employ them all in the same way, but
use the most ethical ones for education, and
the active and passionate kinds for listening to when others are performing
(for any experience that occurs violently in some souls is found in all,
though with different degrees of intensity--for example pity and fear, and also religious excitement; for some persons are very liable to this form of emotion, and under the influence of sacred music we see these people, when they use tunes that violently arouse the soul being thrown into a state as if they had received medicinal treatment and taken a purge;
You will find no exception to the recored fact: those who use any musical forms intend to hurt, destroy and fleece the lambs.
The speakers, singers and instrument players in Revelation 18 are called sorcerers: the "pharmakon" words identify the original Babylon mother of harlots. The sounds of music is the sound of God abandoning a church and driving them into hell (Isaiah 30). In Revelation it is the sound of the lamps or seven spirits of Divine knowledge being removed: the SIGN is used of "striking the flag in the ekklesia." They too will be cast alive into the lake of fire. That is the predestinated DESTINY of those who use witchcraft or sorcery to deliberate hurt God's people and "make them dumb before the slaughter..
-(1342b) for the Phrygian mode has the same effect among harmonies as the flute among instruments--both are violently exciting and emotional.
This is shown by poetry; for all Bacchiac versification and all movement of that sort (Or perhaps bakcheia and kinêsis denote bodily movement accompanying the song; or they may denote the emotional frenzy expressed and stimulated by it. The dithyramb was a form of poetry of this class, originally celebrating the birth of Dionysus. Philoxenus, one of the most famous dithyrambic poets, 435-380 B.C., lived at Athens, and later at the court of Dionysius of Syracuse.) belongs particularly to the flute among the instruments, and these meters find their suitable accompaniment in tunes in the Phrygian mode among the harmonies: for example the dithyramb is admittedly held to be a Phrygian meter, and the experts on this subject adduce many instances to prove this."Any object so sacrificed or devoted to the Lord could not be redeemed (Num. 18:14; Lev. 27:28, 29); and hence the idea of exterminating was connected with the word. The Hebrew verb (haram) is frequently used of the extermination of idolatrous nations. It had a wide range of application. The anathema or herem was a person or thing irrevocably devoted to God (Lev. 27:21, 28); and "none devoted shall be ransomed. He shall surely be put to death" (27:29). The Hebrew word therefore carried the idea of devoted to destruction (Num. 21:2, 3; Josh. 6:17); and hence a majority of scholars have treated the word anathema similarly, generally as meaning a thing accursed. For example, in Deut. 7:26 an idol is called a herem = anathema, understood to mean a thing accursed...If any one preached another gospel, the apostle says, "let him be accursed" (Galatians 1:8,9); i.e., let his conduct in so doing be accounted accursed. Easton’s Bible Dictionary
The LOGOS is the Regulative Principle: it is opposite to rhetoric, singing, playing instruments, acting or any BODY exercise which defines LEGALISM
Hdt. 1.51 Moreover, Croesus sent four silver casks, which stand in the treasury of the Corinthians, and dedicated two sprinkling-vessels, one of gold, one of silver. The golden vessel bears the inscription “Given by the Lacedaemonians,” who claim it as their offering. But they are wrong,.. The figure of a boy, through whose hand the water runs, is indeed a Lacedaemonian gift; but they did not give either of the sprinkling-vessels.
1Cor. 10:6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.Because David Young and the elders claim that God COMMANDED RISING UP TO PLAY it might be logical that God has turned him/them over to worship the starry host and sentenced them back to Babylon (see Acts 7)
1Cor. 10:7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
1 Corinthians 10.7 mēde eidōlolatrai ginesthe, kathōs tines autōn: hōsper gegraptai “Ekathisen ho laos phagein kai pein, kai anestēsan paizein.”
1Cor. 10:8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
Paizō pais I. properly, to play like a child, to sport, alla pepaistai metriōs hēmin, of the chorus, Ar. Th.1227. 4. play on a musical instrument, h.Ap.206: c. acc., “Pan ho kalamophthogga paizōn” dance and sing, Pi. O.1.16.
Aristoph. Frogs 2255. play amorously, “pros allēlous” X.Smp.9.2; “
Rightly so, you busybody.
the Muses of the fine lyre love us
And so does horn-crested Pan, playing his reed pipe.
And the harpist Apollo delights in us as well,
On account of the reed, which as a bridge for his lyre
Apollōn , ho, Apollo: Abaddon, Apollyon The name of a NUMBER
phorm-iktēs , ou, Dor. phorm-miktas , ho, A. lyre-player, of Orpheus, Pi.P.4.176
II. est, sport, Hdt.2.28, 5.4, 9.11; make fun with a person,
"The triumphal hymn of Moses had unquestionably a religious character about it; but the employment of music in religious services, though idolatrous, is more distinctly marked in the festivities which attended the erection of the golden calf." (Smith's Bible Dictionary, Music, p. 589).
1Cor. 10:9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
1Cor. 10:10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
1Cor. 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
1Cor. 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
God did not PREDESTINATE David Young to try to become the Alpha Male of a cult. The Elders in Ephesians 4 if they are APT and working for Christ are to EJECT the cunning craftsmen or Sophists (rhetoricians, singers, instrument players) because THEY LIE IN WAIT TO DECEIVE.
God FOREKNEW or KNEW BEFORE a tiny remnant of faithful Jews who had not bowed to Baal (that instrumental mark).
God PRESERVED a tiny remnant perhaps the 120 still alive when Messiah came as an offering to God.
God PREPLANNED but did not PREPROGRAM this tiny LITTLE FLOCK would accept Jesus as the Messiah and be marked by the LOGOS, word or God's Regulative Principle for those "lost spirits" the evangelist--if he is an evangelist-is SENT OUT to speak the words of the Invitation to COME OUT OF THE WORLD seen in religious rituals known as legalism.
God did not PREASSIGN heaven or hell to a single person and to say so is blasphemy and shows hate for God and HIS Word.
The concept of predestination derives from the dogma of ORIGINAL SIN. However, Satan tempted Eve and sin was introduced into the WORLD. EVE did not carry a deadly virus worse than HIV which people contract if their mother had sex other than to procreate.
Many people are called RIGHTEOUS after the Garden of Eden and they were not "sprinkled" when infants and did not fail to be inclucated by some religious institution.
To mark the vile absurdity of predestination we might note that:
There is not a remote hint that God every randomly selected any named person to be evil or go to hell.
There is 100% Biblical evidence (if you care) to show that there is not a single individual who is not evil because they CHOSE to be evil.
The people who are doomed because of their own choice are always NATIONS but never individuals.
The New Testament makes it clear that it is NATIONS who are chosen.
PERHAPS THESE ARE THE SUPERNATURAL MARKS OF THOSE PREDESTINATED TO BE CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE: WHO CAN TELL?Rather than speaking about Pool Tables and God's making dogmatically certain that David Young is going into the side pocket, take a look at Bible Speak
God KNEW BEFORE the Jews: Paul does not say that God foreknew individuals and predestinated them to be saved or lost.
God Knew Before the small remnant of Jews who had not bowed to Baal.
God pre-purposed that the Gentiles would hear the same gospel.
God did not control the response of anyone to the gospel of Rest from rituals
God's right to pick certain people to carry out His will with His validation, does not mean that they were predestinated to heaven.
There is ONE GOD THE FATHER and ONE Mediator between Man and God: the MAN Jesus Christ. Jesus is now in His GLORIFIED state because He OBEYED the Father and spoke only what the Father breathed (spirit) into him. Jesus knows the MIND OF OUR SPIRIT:
Rom. 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit,
because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Rom. 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God,
to them who are the called according to his purpose.
Rom. 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Rom. 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Rom. 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
Rom. 8:32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
Rom. 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth.
Rom. 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Rom. 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Rom. 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Rom. 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
THE HUMAN SPIRIT GROANS WITHIN US
Rom. 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit,
because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
IF A CHILD DIES IT IS NOT GOD'S WILL. God does not create evil. The verse does not say that all events will be proven GOOD. If a wife loses a husband there is nothing good that can be caused by that death. Those who suffer most often turn against God. It rains on the just and unjust.
Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God,
to them who are the called according to his purpose.
Rom. 8:28 ASVAnd we know that to them that love God all things work together for good, even to them that are called according to his purpose.
When Jesus promised another or different Comforter, He said I WILL COME TO you. John gives us the NAME of the Holy Spirit Comforter:
1John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.
And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only,
but also for the sins of the whole world.
God is not evil: His will or wish is that ALL be saved. How evil then to say that God MANUFACTURED little girls just to send them to hell. God's PURPOSE is that we keep HIS commandments. David Young says that the PROOF of our predestination is that we have a holy spirit person living inside and the proof is that we keep on struggling against sin.
John 14:22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot,
Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him,
If a man love me, he will keep my WORDS:
and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him,
nd make our abode with him.
John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings:
and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.
John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love;
even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.
John 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
John 15:19 If ye were OF the world, the world would love his own:
but because ye are not of the world,
but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you,
The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have
1John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1John 2:4 He that saith, I know him,
and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1John 2:5 But whoso keepeth his WORD, in him verily is the love of God perfected:
hereby know we that we are in him.
1John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
GOD FORKNEW BEFORE THE TINY REMNANT OF JEWS and not David Young.
Is. 49:1 Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far;
The LORD hath called me from the womb;
from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.
Is. 49:2 And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword;
in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me,
and made me a polished shaft;
in his quiver hath he hid me;
Is. 49:3 And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.
Is. 49:4 Then I said, I have laboured in vain, I have spent my strength for nought, and in vain:
yet surely my judgment is with the LORD, and my work with my God.
Is. 49:5 And now, saith the LORD that formed me from the womb to be his servant,
to bring Jacob again to him,
Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the LORD,
and my God shall be my strength.
Notice the two GROUPS which is always the meaning of PREDESTINATED purpose.
And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob,
........ and to restore the preserved of Israel:
........ I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles,
........ that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. Isa 49:6
Salvation is Yeshuwah! God chooses those who DO NOT repudiate Him by THEIR OWN SINS.Thus saith the Lord, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One,
to him whom man despiseth,
to him whom the nation abhorreth,
to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship,
because of the Lord that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel,
and he shall choose thee. Isa 49:7
H977 bâchar baw-khar' A primitive root; properly to try, that is, (by implication) select: acceptable, appoint, choose (choice), excellent, join, be rather, require.
- to choose, elect, decide for
- (Qal) to choose
- (Niphal) to be chosen
- (Pual) to be chosen, selectedKJV (172) - acceptable, 1; appoint, 1; choice, 6; choose, 77; choose...out, 5; chosen, 77; chosen men, 1; excellent, 1; not translated, 1; rather, 1; require, 1;
NAS (169) - choice, 6; choicest, 2; choose, 40; chooses, 22; choosing, 1; chose, 21; chosen, 67; desired, 2; men, 1; preferred, 1; require, 1; select, 1; selected, 1; selected from the choice, 1; selects, 1; tested, 1;
Isa 41:8 - But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whomI have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.
Isa 41:9 - Thou whomI have taken from the ends of the earth, and called thee from the chief men thereof, and said unto thee, Thou art my servant;I have chosen thee, and not cast thee away.
Isa 48:10 - Behold,I have refined thee, but not with silver;I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.
Isa 49:7 - Thus saith the LORD, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the LORD that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee.
Isa 66:3 - He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.
Isa 66:4 - I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because whenI called, none did answer; whenI spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in whichI delighted not.
Thus saith the Lord, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee:
........ . and I will preserve thee,
........ . and give thee for a covenant of the people,
........ . to establish the earth, to cause to
................inherit the desolate heritages; Isa 49:8
Paul's next statement in Romans 8:29 is:
David Young and the North Boulevard Elders say that God KNEW from eternity past that David Young was going to be a preacher. Unfortunately God did not GIFT a located preacher's ROLE and he OUTLAWED any DOLE for him. Because David etal pervert the Word of God almost totally, we might ask whether David has a precast CROWN waiting for him or a LAKE OF FIRE Jesus told John was reserved for the preachers, singers and instrument players in Revelation 18 f.
For whom he did foreknow, (God "knew before" the Jews:)
But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you. Rom 10:19
But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me. Rom 10:20
But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people. Rom 10:21
Israel was chosen for a purpose but that purpose was not predestination to salvation which could not be lost. In Romans 9 Paul disabuses the Jews of their claim to predestination because of their musical idolatry of the trinity at Mount Sinai.
I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. Rom 11:1
God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, Romans 11:2
Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. Romans 11:3
But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. Rom 11:4
There is no hint that God PREDESTINATED or prevented the seven thousand men from bowing to Baal: those who refused were RESERVED as faithful.
Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him. 1 Kings 19:18
Shaar (h7604) shaw-ar'; a prim. root; prop. to swell up, i. e. be (caus. make) redundant: - leave, (be) left, let, remain, remnant, reserve, the rest.
WHAT IS THE MARK OF BOWING TO IDOLS: remember that the Jacob-cursed and God-abandoned Levites made instrumental NOISE which warned the civil-military-clergy that they must bow or worship "the starry host." And Godly person present was commanded to be EXECUTED. Amos and Stephen give us the NAMES of some of the "gods" worshipped by the Jews and used as a pattern by David Young and the Elders at the Northwest Church of Christ in Murfreesboro.
THE JEWS SLAUGHTERING INNOCENT ANIMALS GOD DID NOT COMMAND
2Chr. 29:26 And the Levites stood with the instruments of David, and the priests with the trumpets.
2Chr. 29:27 And Hezekiah commanded to offer the burnt offering upon the altar. And when the burnt offering began, the song of the LORD began also with the trumpets, and with the instruments ordained by David king of Israel.
2Chr. 29:28 And all the congregation worshipped, and the singers sang, and the trumpeters sounded: and all this continued until the burnt offering was finished.
2Chr. 29:29 And when they had made an end of offering, the king and all that were present with him bowed themselves, and worshipped.
In one form or another Baal or the ELOHIM was the god of all ancient and modern pagans who bow or submit themselves to instrumental sounds to silence the mouth of God.
Dan. 3:5 That at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king hath set up:
Dan. 3:7 Therefore at that time, when all the people heard the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and all kinds of musick, all the people, the nations, and the languages, fell down and worshipped the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up.
Dan. 3:10 Thou, O king, hast made a decree, that every man that shall hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, shall fall down and worship the golden image:
Dan. 3:15 Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?
God KNEW ALL of Israel before. However, he RESERVED only the remnant BECAUSE they had neither bowed nor kissed Baal.
Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. Rom 11:5
The remnant when Jesus came were not RESERVED because they keep the Law of Moses. God extended grace because people obeyed Him because obedience is NOT a work of the Law or of human merit.
And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. Rom 11:6
What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for;
but the election hath obtained it,
and the rest were blinded Rom 11:7
Paul in 2 Corinthians 3 says that they were BLINDED because they did not obey the Words of God. Even still they would not be able to read the Old Testament until they TURNED to Christ Who IS that SPIRIT.
(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day. Rom 11:8
Jesus points to the Pharisees and Isaiah 29 as well as Ezekiel 33 to show that it was MUSICAL rituals which had starved the people to death.
Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: Isa 29:13
Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. Isa 29:14
And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them: Rom 11:9
Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway. Rom 11:10
Isay then, Have they stumbled that they should fall?
God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Rom 11:11
Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? Rom 11:12
For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: Rom 11:13
If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. Rom 11:14
For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? Rom 11:15
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate
to be conformed to the image of his Son,
that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Ro.8:29
Proginosko (g4267) prog-in-oce'-ko; from 4253 and 1097; to know beforehand, i.e. foresee: - foreknow (ordain), know (before).
Which knew me from the beginning, if they would testify, that after the most straitest sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee. Ac.26:5CONTRADICTING DAVID YOUNG AND THE NORTHWEST CHURCH OF CHRIST
Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee;
and before thou camest forth out of the womb
I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. [Gentiles]
Jeremiah 1:6 Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child.
Jeremiah 1:7 But the LORD said unto me, Say not, I am a child:
for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee,
and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak.
Acts 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles,
to take out of them a people for his name.
Acts 15:15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
Acts 15:16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, [tent]
which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
DAVID YOUNG SAYS THAT WE DON'T SEEK OR PICK GOD: HE PICKS US.
Acts 15:17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord,
and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord,
who doeth all these things.
Acts 15:18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
ISN'T THE SPIRIT AND PAUL CALLED IDIOTS IF THE PREDESTINATED PEOPLE HAVE NO CHOICE
Heb. 10:28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb. 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy,
who hath trodden under foot the Son of God,
and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing,
and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
God does not pour out His wrath (the performance orgy) because He decided from eternity past that these people had no choice?
Heb. 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me,
I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb. 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Heb. 10:32 But call to remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions;
Heb. 10:33 Partly, whilst ye were made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions; and partly, whilst ye became companions of them that were so used.
Heb. 10:34 For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.
Heb. 10:35 Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
Heb. 10:36 For ye have need of patience,
that, after ye have done the will of God,
ye might receive the promise.
Heb. 10:37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
Heb. 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith:
but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
Heb. 10:39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition;
but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
Contrary to the hyper-Calvinists, faith is not a GIFT which only the predestinated receive.
Heb. 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Heb. 11:2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.
Heb. 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the WORD of God,
so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Heb. 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain,
by which he obtained witness that he was righteous,
God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.
Heb. 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
Heb. 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him:
for he that cometh to God must believe that he is,
and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
EVERYTHING GOD WORKS IS FOR MAN'S GOOD: if God hand picked certain men to carry out His will that does not mean that they were PREDESTINATED or hand picked from all eternity. If God PRESERVED Pharoah or KEPT HIM ALIVE God Used him for the GOOD of the Israelites. God did not sentence Pharoah to burn in hell just to prove that God is the BIG MAN ON THE BLOCK.
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