For I determined not to know any thing among you,
save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2
That does not mean just PREACH
Christ and Him crucified: it means to PRACTICE and suffer just like
Christ. That eleminates Shelly's Located Missionaries.
The High Church insanity that
each CULTURE gets a chance to Partner with God to get a new set of Scripture (Rubel
Partnership with God was often proposed but NEVER approved as valid for any body of the
Because John does not mention
Jesus going to Jerusalem he concludes that John is not trustworthy.
Because he sees the Apostles as engaged in warfare, the epistles have
fallen into disrespect. Because Heisenberg noted that you cannot
shoot a sub-atomic particle at another without MOVING it to another
position, THAT means that our eyes have evolved so that a text Jesus
may have handled is NOT understandable by modern eyes. That is about
as sane as saying that you cannot predict where a missle is going to
land because the radar you SHOOT at it changes its direction. That
is the OLD idea that we SEE by shooting something out from our eyes.
After 2000 years not even the words of Jesus have survived. HOWEVER,
don't dispair, Shelly and York claim that Jesus had lots of SURPLUS
words which they writers could not FIT into the OLDEN Bible. However,
NOW we can HEAR those words, yea even audibly.
Don Finto and Rubel Shelly on the God-Selected Apostles, prophets and
"God did not give
eternal truths, but granted communication.... God's revelation
involved limitations.... Biblical revelation is not absolute and all
divine revelation is essentially incarnational.... Even if a truth is given only in words, it
has no real validity
until it has been translated into life. Only then does the Word of Life become life to the
receptor. The words are in a sense nothing in and of themselves.... the word is void unless related to
Message and Mission, p.
221-228, New York: Harper & Row, 1960).
However: A.W. Tozer
on Nida: "It is a grave responsibility that a man takes upon himself
when he seeks to edit
out of God's
Self-revelation such features as he in his ignorance deems objectionable."
J.H.Garrison: "There is God
and Jesus: all the rest is opinion."
Alfred T. DeGroot: Those who
use the Bible "as it has been taught" are defined as SECTARIANS or
CULTS while those who are HIGH CHURCH (Catholic) are called
Rubel Shelly: There are seven
facts about Jesus: all the rest is muddled apostolic opinion.
A person hired to
teach the DISCIPLINE OF HOMER would be defined as a traitor if he
rewrote Homer or tool every opportunity to tell those who hire him
that nothing Homer wrote is worth of being studied.
Christianity is not a religion
but a DISCIPLINE: 'Go make disciples, NOT, go make ritualists."
Therefore, those whorepudiate the only Christian documents for 2,000
years are anti-Christian by definition.
Therefore, our reviews are not
personal attacks but represent the BIBLE BELIEVER'S rebuttal of those
who have MOVED BEYOND the Bible.
Did Paul not teach more than
two facts about Jesus? Was this the CORE gospel? No. To know Christ
is defined by other verses:
And we beseech you,
brethren, to know
them which labour among
you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; 1Th.5:12
> In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 2 Thess 1:8
> I thank my God alway on your behalf, for
the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ; 1 Cor 1:4
........... That in every thing ye are
enriched by him, in all utterance, and in all knowledge; 1 Cor 1:5
Even as the testimony
of Christ was confirmed in you: 1 Cor 1:6
> For our rejoicing is this, the
of our conscience, that
in simplicity and godly sincerity, not with fleshly wisdom,
........... but by the grace of God,
we have had our
conversation in the world,
........... and more abundantly to youward. 2
> Who bare record of the word of God,
and of the testimony of
Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. Re.1:2
> And the serpent
cast out of his mouth
Rain?) as a
flood after the woman, that he might cause
her to be carried away
of the flood. Rev 12:15
And the earth
holpen the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of
mouth. Rev 12:16
And the dragon was wroth with the woman,
- went to make war
(polemos or polemical battle of words) with the
(remaining few) of her
- which keep
the commandments of God,
- and have the
of Jesus Christ.
Therefore KNOWING GOD and
preaching or obeying THE GOSPEL are not the same things. Someone is
close to fooling someone. The Bible is given to be taught and not
obsoleted and replaced by the sold sermons of latter-day
And your Armageddon might
already have been fought and you lost if you believe and defend the
notion that Christ the Spirit was unable to deliver and protect the
Word of God!
Here is the unforgivable
For it is
impossible for those
who were once
enlightened, and have
tasted of the heavenly
and were made
partakers of the Holy
Ghost, Heb 6:4
And have tasted the good
word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
If they shall fall
(impossible) to renew them
again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of
God afresh, and put him to an open shame. Heb 6:6
For the earth which
drinketh in the
rain (the WORD) that
cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it
is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: Heb 6:7
But that which
beareth thorns and
briers is rejected, and
is nigh unto
cursing; whose end is
to be burned. Heb 6:8
It is a dangerous thing to fall
under the sermonizing of one who claims that the Word of God was
forgotten because the apostles decided that Jesus hadn't leveled with
them. Then, when they needed the poorly-remembered accounts, they
sifted them through philosophy and arrived as, say, the Gospel of
John based on their own personal agenda.
This TYPE appears in Isaiah 5
where God's VINEYARD is stolen by those preaching wine, women and
song. Music is the universal cause and MARK on those who reject the
Word in favor of "holy entertainment."
However, knowing about the
"many" trying to get a bit of the "action" in the new
churches, Paul baited a FALSE TEACHER
TRAP. That is, Paul showed us how to detect
false prophets, false Christs or false apostles:
AND I, brethren,
when I came to you, came not with
excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring
unto you the testimony of God. 1 Corinthians 2:1
Declaring means "preaching."
Declaring the testimony of God begins in Genesis 1:1. Therefore, it
is difficult to understand Paul's "preaching" unless you grasp that
much of it is commentary on Old Testament writings.
And I fell at his
feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am
thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit
of prophecy. 1 Corinthians 19:10
>John began his gospel with
"in the beginning was
the Word and the Word
was with God and the Word was God."
>However, the peddlers of the CORE discredit John by claiming that he just made up his account with a bit of help from the Spirit or
"enlightenment." John then "read back" the LOGOS concept into His account even though he knew that it
appears in Genesis.
>"Therefore, to preach Christ
we don't have to begin at the beginning as John did."
However, that is where Peter began and that is where Stephen began.
Christ and Him crucified means nothing without the "first chapter"
beginning in Genesis.
Knowing Christ and Him
crucified is not all
that Paul taught but he
meant that "I did not come with excellency of speech." That is, Paul knew Christ and he could not therefore try to be a super speaker. This would defeat the Word of Christ.
Therefore, the CORE peddlers
have to repudiate the "fear and trembling and ready to suffer and die
concept of KNOWING CHRIST and just make up their own new GOSPEL which
gives them more authority to alter God's Word than Christ the Son
had. As you listen try to see them like my cats as they silently
steal in for the kill of an animal and you will see wolves trying not
to alarm the lambs they intend to have for lunch.
The two waring views of the
Bible keeps the people's eyes off Christ and His Word.
proved critical in shaping the Christian movement into an institutional religion. All
Christians agreed in principle that only Christ himself - or God -
can be the ultimate source
of spiritual authority.
........... But the immediate question, of course,
was the practical one:
Who, in the present,
administers that authority?
Valentinus and his followers
........... "Whoever comes into direct, personal contact with the
They argued that only
experience offers the
ultimate criterion of
precedence over all secondhand testimony and all
traditions - even
form of creative invention as evidence that a person has become spiritually alive.
On this theory, the structure
of authority can never
be fixed into an institutional framework: it must remain spontaneous, charismatic, and open.
Those who rejected this theory argued that all future generations of
even more than their own
For, as Tertullian admitted,
whoever judges in terms of ordinary historical experience would find
the claim that a man physically returned from the grave to be
incredible. Whatever can never be proven or verified in the
says, "must be believed,
because it is absurd."
death of the
must accept the word of
the priests and bishops, who have claimed, from the second century, to be
their only legitimate
heirs." pages 25 -26 of
Elaine Pagel, Gnostic Gospels
But, by firing the doctors of
the law who "took away the key to knowledge" Jesus left the writings
avaliable to be read, taught and meditated on. This, as Peter
insists, will cause the Morning Star to rise in our hearts if we
don't "cut and paste" the words to destroy the Spirit power Christ
put into them.
The Judas Goat and
the black sheep work in the world to make sure that the sheep get
fleeced, the flesh consumed and the lambs feed the shepherds.
On the other hand, Jesus and
Paul insists that the shepherds work to feed the flock!
As the Charismatic, latter day
prophets do battle with the High Priests of the once-revealed Word,
we should be totally aware that they are both on the same side. Both
are involved in stealing the FREE WATER OF THE WORD which Christ died
to deliver to the world--just once.
That revealed Word is a history
of God dealing with mankind: the good, the bad and the ugly. Some of
it is to be taken as NEGATIVE patterns: don't insult God with pagan
idolatry. Some of it is for positive patterns: teach the Word one to
another. However, as the history of a nation gives us the spirit or
mental disposition of the nation, the Word is to be read, taught and
meditated upon to imbibe the "Spirit" or Mind of God.
Our minds or
spirits and even our physical brains grow and develop into a pattern
based upon every word or concept which we feed into it. If we tell it
that the Bible is a pack of bad memories then we repudiate the CORE
Christian evidence and build on the sand.
To take the peddlers out of the
process, Christ died to give us the Holy Spirit as His Mind in His
inspired Word: as we give heed to it (one of the clear "worship"
words) our minds are conformed to the image of Christ's Mind.
And this voice
which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy
mount. 2 Peter 1:18
We have also a more
sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as
unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and
the day star arise in your hearts: 2 Peter 1:19
Knowing this first,
that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 2
> Only by repudiating Peter as inspired
can we presume to peddle pagan, musical or rhetorical performance as
"worship." Giving heed means worship and theatrical performance
intends to prevent you from doing what Peter demanded. Giving heed in
Proserchomai (g4334) pros-er'-khom-ahee; from 4314 and 2064
(includ. its alt.); to approach, i.e. (lit.) come near, visit, or
(fig.) worship, assent
to: - (as soon as he)
come (unto), come thereunto, consent, draw near, go (near, to, unto).
We worship whatever or whomever
we "give attention to." Theatrical performers know that they are
stealing the worship away from God and that is the original sin for
> To guard the process, Paul insisted that
there is no clergy class which can be tolerated as "mediators of the
Word" between Christ the Spirit and the "audience." His "Knowing
Christ" meant that true ministers must be allowed to go out.
This means that YOU cannot
survive the Spiritual Sword of God if you make it your profession to
extract the CORE or further explain the Spirit of God rather than
taking the Word into the world. Interpretation means:
ep-il'-oo-sis; from 1956; explanation, i.e. application: - interpretation.
ep-ee-loo'-o; from 1909 and 3089; to solve further, i.e. (fig.) to explain, decide: - determine,
But without a
parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone,
he expounded all
things to his disciples.
The CORE peddlers must
repudiate the entire Bible as inspired because the message is of a
vocational ministry. If you needed any more proof then Peter claims
that a FURTHER EXPOUNDER is a supernatural sign that you have been
> Why you must repudiate both sides of the army of
Satan who have said: "The kingdom is over here and if you want
'truth' and 'worship' we have it for sale.
For the prophecy
came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as
they were moved by the Holy Ghost. 2 Peter 1:21
But, we have a way of making an
OUTLAWED "office" into an ABSOLUTE DEMAND. Here is the way we do it:
"The Holy Spirit DIDN'T REALLY inspire the Bible. So, you must trust
me to do what HE failed to do."
If the CORE "feeders on the
flock" are correct, then Peter is just trying to validate his own
writings because he was totally deceived by Christ whose kingdom has
not even now come.
Jesus defined the
Devil as a liar because "he speaks on his own." Therefore, the
peddlers of the CORE accuse Peter of being a liar and a devil.
> If you believe Peter, however, he has just shown you
why you must get the hireling shepherds who believe only the CORE
out of your
sheepfold before they
consume all of the sheep.
BUT there were
false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false
teachers among you, who privily
shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying
[contradicting Jesus] the
Lord that bought them, and
bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 Peter 2:1
And many shall
follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken
of. 2 Peter 2:2
covetousness shall they with feigned (molded
plastic) words make
merchandise of you: whose
judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation
slumbereth not. 2 Peter 2:3
This is the unforgivable
The Bible does not treat
the fallen angels as a
myth. Rather, Jesus,
Peter and Jude refer to the Book of Enoch who shows how the Devil and
his fallen angels (false prophets, false apostles) still have their
SECOND INCARNATION in men who can repudiate the Word and still be
applauded by admiring men and get paid for denying the CORE Christian
document. Jesus called them a "den of vipers" and claimed that they
were "sons of their father, the Devil."
The certain sign
which you can use is: "They speak on their own."
So, false prophets and false
Christs are not just
mistaken: they have
their own agenda to destroy Christ by destroying His Word.
FRONTAL ATTACK AGAINST JESUS would backfire, they leave the "little token Jesus,
meek and mild" in as the CORE but then build their false dogma in
direct contradiction to the writers of the New Testament.
Be warned: anyone who has
undergone an experience of dissociation or temporary schizophrenia,
may have the hands of beloved friends laid on them. They may be
induced to speak in tongues or be affirmed as a latter day prophet or
even the 13th apostle. His success at selling his experience then
confirms his delusion and he may truly believe that he is God or a
Once, you know the truth,
according to Paul to the Hebrews, and then fall back into pagan
superstition or legalism, you have committed the unforgivable sin. No
objective words on paper will ever again be able to compete with your
subjective experience and you have fallen and you will never get
That is the meaning of "fallen
angels": once enlightened, fell through their own glory, never able
to come to repentance. Thereafter, God plugs the ears and blinds the
Do you begin to see why the
writers of the New Testament must be made into people with
motives and a personal agenda must be discredited just at the time when the whole concept of
"mega-mega-churches" with dominant pastors and "staff infection" is finally being found out?
Mel White author
of Deceived, says:
He knew how to
inspire hope. He was committed to people in need; He counseled
prisoners and juvenile delinquents. He started a job placement
center; He opened rest homes and homes for the retarded; He had a
health clinic; He organized a vocational training center; He provided
free legal aid; He founded a community center; He preached about God.
He even claimed to cast out demons, do miracles and heal.
His name was Jim Jones. Abbadon
or Apollyon or Satan himself, built one of the grandest Seeker
He is not interested in going
out and preaching the whole counsel of God but his entire Socialistic
or Communistic system is him "speaking on his own." He has committed
literal or spiritual suicide and he must carry his flock with him to
validate himself even into hell itself.
They are out of the earth
like locusts consuming everything in their path but only for a short
If they cannot quickly
transform their churches or synagogues into theaters as "venue for
Rock and Roll" and other "holy entertainment" they will be on
wellfare and given a bill for fleecing the flock with no more
Biblical mention than the warning about "hireling shepherds."
Therefore, they are turned
loose for a short season to rescue themselves by convincing you to
turn your church into an end-time oracle selling the lust of the eye,
the lust of the flesh or the lust of the ears.
several statements of the CORE GOSPEL.
People have differing motives for the urge to get the
Bible off their backs so, as one brother put it, they can "move on."
Some are good, some are bad and some are ugly. Whatever their motive
it is possible that they are just parroting the latest theology which
rises like a plague out of seminars and college class rooms.
Therefore, we will allow various writers to speak for
However, be warned that there
is not a "left wing core" and a "right wing core." All human
organizations give rise for a narrowly-drawn list of "important
facts" which leaves the "entire counsel of God" untaught and
therefore unable to do the work God put into His counsel.
The New Testament message is of
a people "synagoguing" or schooling and not of a pagan worship center
for any one's pyramid of power actually a plague of "staff
Reason knows nothing about the
wretchedness of depraved nature. It does not recognize the fact that
no man is able to keep God's commandments; that all are under sin and
condemnation; and that the only way whereby help could be received
was for God to give his
Son for the world,
ordaining another ministration, one through which grace and
reconciliation might be proclaimed to us. Now, he who does not
understand the sublime subject of which Paul speaks cannot but miss
the true meaning of his words.
How much more did
we invite this fate when we threw the Scriptures and Saint Paul's epistles under
the bench, and, like
wallowed in man's
nonsense! Therefore, we
must submit to correction and learn to understand the apostle's
|Rubel Shelly believes and
Here is what
(1) "For God so loved the world that he gave his
one and only Son,
whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal
(But: The Israelites had to "look upon" the
serpet) John 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the
cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
(3) "Therefore let all
Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you
Lord and Christ" (Acts 2:36).
(But:Acts 2:37 Now when they heard this, they
were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the
rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the
remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy
(4) "But God
demonstrates his own love for us in this: (5) While we were
still sinners, Christ died for us. (6) Since we have now
been justified by his blood, (7) how much more shall we be
saved from God's wrath through him!" (Rom. 5:8-9).
(But: Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as
were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his
death? Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism
into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead
by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in
newness of life.)
These are the
essentials of Christian faith. It is this
core message about Jesus that we share
in common with
constitutes us a church.
Outside the essence
of the gospel,
other features that reflect our history and consensus interpretations of the larger biblical
kingdom did not come as Christ promised those who wrote the
Bible went their own ways. John, for instance, hooked up
with a Greek philosopher and borrowed the LOGOS concept and
used it to explain Jesus Christ. However, either unknown or
ignored is the fact that the LOGOS concept begins where John
places it: in Genesis. Too bad that scholars miss the fact
that DABAR is the Hebrew word.
seems to agree with those of whom he writes:
They had to strain the story of Jesus through
had to create and clarify special terms. They made entrance into their circles a matter of
"enlightenment" as reflected in peculiar vocabulary and
survived two millennia now in its narrative form of telling the big story through collections of little ones about Jesus.
The little stories were strained through the
Shelly Sifter of philosophy and the Bible writer's personal
agenda: these are not TRUTH as the Gospel is TRUTH. The
methods of John and the Gnostics are not much different:
therefore, as the Gnostics SIFTED so did John.
The Big Story or the
CORE GOSPEL has survived through these little
The CORE is no more reliable than the sum of its parts: why
should we trust Rubel Shelly's CORE GOSPEL as the
Dr. Shelly defines
narrative form as writers taking the literature and constructing a
narrative for their own time, place, theological agenda and
by sifting in Greek philosophy.
gospel" has been the subject
of much discussion. A British theologian of the Church of
England by the name of C. H. Dodd (1930's) has written
extensively on the theory (an avowed modernist, he
denied the inspiration of the
Bible). His views have been
carried into the mainstream of Protestant religious thought
and, to one extent or another, into the thinking of some
Ketcherside, for one, accepted
his definition of a "core
and changed his religious views
to accommodate it.
Ketcherside was considered
a maverick in his early preaching and writing days but lived
long enough to see his views gain popularity. In (Bill)
Love's book, this "core gospel" achieves a status of
scholarship (in some circles).
"Dodd maintained that the
original disciples who heard Jesus speak and who later
did so with the
anticipation of an immediate
return of Jesus while they
Jesus did not immediately return, they began to memorize
the sayings of Jesus and formed a primitive
catechism to preserve these sayings (he did not believe
in plenary inspiration).
disciples, including Luke,
Paul and Peter, incorporated
these catechisms into
as they attempted to
explain within doctrinal and
why Jesus delayed His
This is identical to
begin with lots of recorded fragments none of which are
inspired. However, the writers of the Bible pieced these
fragments together and sifted them through Greek philosophy
to meet the needs of their own agenda.
However, out of this
sifting process, by some kind of accident the Core gospel
whole is no more inspired than its individual
According to Rubel Shelly, the record is so useless that he
sees John sifting in Greek philosophy and read the Logos idea back into the gospel
account of John.
The fact that Genesis
begins to speak of the Dabar as the personification of the
Word of God does not matter: our CORE religion out of Greek
and pagan philosophy insists that OUR system gave rise to
the LOGOS or DABAR concept.
To Dodd, these original sayings
of Jesus (which had salvation as
their theme) were buried in
the volume of New Testament
but he has determined
which they are and these form an original
'kerygma' or evangel (the
original gospel that has salvation as its theme).
One should not try to
teach this gospel but kerusssein (proclaim,
preach it). The doctrinal and moral instruction
(law, if you will) should be taught (didaskein),
From this, one can see
clearly the distinction that Dodd has made between gospel
and doctrine" (Tom Roberts, Neo-Calvinsim in
the Church of Christ, p. 48).
"'The significant features of
Dodd's theory which have been described in their
developmental sequence are:
- In the earliest church a distinct
activity called preaching was
- Preaching had a particular
content, the kerygma, which
was the earliest missionary message of the church.
- Fragments of this earliest message are discernible in the written
- Teaching is a second, distinct
activity of the early church.
- The content of teaching is
exhortation. Its form is derived from Jewish
- The practice and content of
teaching are the product of the evolutionary development of the earliest church as it awaited the second coming of
Jesus' (Preaching and
Teaching in the Earliest Church, Robert C. Worley, pp.
22, 23)." ibid. p. 51.
Ketcherside advocated that the
"core gospel" "'consisted of the (1) life, (2) death, (3)
burial, (4) resurrection, (5) ascension, (6) coronation and
(7) glorification of Jesus' (Mission Messenger, Dec.,
1972, p. 180)." ibid, p. 53. He also said that "The
gospel was proclaimed as fully and completely on the first
Pentecost after the resurrection of Jesus as it ever has
been, and nothing written later
was added to it" (ibid, p.
"Not one apostolic letter is a part of the
gospel of Christ...the Roman
letter was not a part of the gospel...the letter to the
Galatians was not a part of the gospel"
This is more than just
a technical definition: because "gospel" is the only thing
which counts as the CORE GOSPEL, the rest of the Bible has
value but cannot be used to dfine faith and practice.
Therefore, everyone has the right to practice whatever they
wish because this is not a "salvation issue." However, no
one has a right to object because "doctrine" is not a
salvation issue. If you let me define the CORE then I am
dictator and you are pharisee.
|This is also the Leroy Garret
teaching as it is enhanced by the Vineyard:
Leroy Garrett stated
an earlier pattern:
"This is to say that
the gospel is not the whole of the New Testament scriptures,
gospel was a reality long before the scriptures were written.
of the apostles are not facts, as the gospel is,
interpretations, implications, and edification based on the gospel.
In this area, that
of the didache (teaching) even the apostles differed in their ideas and emphases.
churches for whom these documents were written
different from each other.
Garrett goes on to
define the "gospel" as something revealed but not subject to
doctrine allows for debate and dialogue, for
intellectual stimulation and the stretching of the mind. It
nurtures us in Christ,
such a way that each man develops according to his own
The pragmatic mind as well as the speculative mind finds
food for thought. Its design is (not) to make us all alike
in our thinking, but to make us mature in Christ.
So, we have the
was in effect before the "graphe," and the seven ones defined
above are the only things which we can use to accept or reject
All of the
rest of the Bible is just pre-post-modern understandings of the
apostle-prophets opinions or interpretations. That means
"uninspired" to this writer.
"'The implications of
all this to unity and fellowship are weighty. It means that
the gospel itself, not our doctrinal
interpretations, is the basis of our being one in Christ
and in fellowship with each other.
when one believes in Jesus and obeys him in baptism, he is our brother and
That fellowship is
strengthened and made joyful by doctrine, but it is the gospel and
not doctrine that determines the
(Leroy Garrett, "The Word Abused," Restoration Review, Vol.
XVII, No. 3, pp. 42-46)", ibid, pp. 54-55.
Not only the Bible but
modern teachers are treated with the same method. Therefore,
Alexander Campbell can be twisted to teach salvation by
faith only when Alexander Campbell taught just the
opposite--if we read Alexander Campbell as Campbell wrote and
|Alfred T. DeGroot DeGroot speaks for the Disciples "high church"
notion of the Bible. He identifies a "church" as an
institution free to make up its on rules to meet the demands
of the times. However, he defines groups which use the Bible
for faith and practice as "cults."
"It is one of the
insights of devoted biblical scholarship since Thomas
to see that
........... takes presendence over and gives meaning to a
Christian use of the New Testament.
Testament is itself the record of a fellowship
loyalty to the accepted Messiah an Savior, a
which transcended differences of worship
so long as an
increasing embodiment of the will of Christ
was ever the goal
of the companions in the Way.
"Peter's and Paul's
almost violent divergence on the race problem, John's unique and (as
far as the record goes) unshared interest in the theology of pre-existence." ( p.
DeGroot's proof that the New Testament is the result of conflicting
apostles and divisive churches.
DeGroot explains why
the 99% majority who have always based their view of the
Christian Faith on the Teachings of Christ and His empowered
Agents as CULTS OR SECTS.
However, those who
reject the Bible and depend on some kind of personal
revelation from the Spirit are defined as CHURCHES.
THIS IS AN
EXPLANATION OF ANOTHER DISCIPLE'S FOUNDER:
J.H.Garrison: "There is God and Jesus: all
the rest is opinion."
"This is why
Testament is as perfect a constitution for the worship,
discipline, and government of the New Testament church, and
as a perfect a rule for particular duties of its members, as
the Old Testament was for the worship, discipline, and
government of the Old Testament Church, and the particular
duties of its members."
"Thus there came to
be, very early in the career of this movement, interest not
Christian unity in a new freedom, but also (defined as 'church')
return to the doctrine, ordinances, and discipline of
Testament church." (p. 153) (defined as 'sect')
In 1932, A. W. Fortune
says, "The controversies through which the Disciples have
passed from the beginning to the present time have been the
result of two
interpretations of their mission.
been those who believed it is the spirit of the New Testament Church
that should be restored, and
in our method of
working the church must
adapt itself to changing
There have been those
who regarded the New Testament Church as a fixed pattern for all time, and our business
is to hold rigidly to that pattern regardless of
these two attitudes conflict were inevitable."
"Broadly speaking, it
may be said that number
1 above generated the present fellowship called Disciples of
Christ, and that number (church)
2 gave rise to the Churches of Christ. (sect)
would be among the 'church' type and
Churches of Christ among the 'sect' type.
meant that body of conceptions which says "From the beginning they have
been 'high churchmen'...
they 'never ceased to stress the visible and corporate character of the Church
as the Divine Society,' (with bylaws, a head and ability to adapt to
are a contradiction of the living nature of the church.'
Degroot does the
same "narrative theology" on many of the church Fathers.
Unfortunately, men like Lactantius who insisted
not allowable to alter the provisions of this law, nor is it
permitted us to modify it, nor can it be entirely
Nor, truly, can we be
released from this law, either by the senate or by the
another person to be sought to explain or interpret it.
Nor will there
be one law at
another at Athens; one law at the present time,
the same law, everlasting and unchangeable, will bind all
nations at all times;
and there will be one
common Master and Ruler of all, even God, the framer, arbitrator,
and proposer of this law;
and he who
shall not obey this will flee from himself, and, despising the nature of
will suffer the
greatest punishments through this very
though he shall have escaped the other punishments which are
supposed to exist."
Who that is acquainted
with the mystery of God could so significantly relate the law of
God, as a
removed from the knowledge of the truth has set forth that
consider that they who speak true things
are to be so regarded as though they prophesied under the
influence of some spirit.
But if he had known or
explained this also, in what precepts the law itself
consisted, as he clearly saw the force and purport of the divine law,
not have discharged the office of a philosopher, but of a prophet.
And because he
was unable to
do this, it must be done by us, to whom the law itself has
been delivered by the one great Master and Ruler of all,
|The Post-Modern "hermeneutic"
of the Latter Rain (or Latter Reign) asks:
Modern Prophets have
received "new revelations" of the end-time which, until now,
have not been understood by the Church. Truly, a "New Breed"
of Apostles and Prophets is being raised up before our very
eyes, who will momentarily assume their end-time role of
leading the Church to take dominion and to execute God's
judgments in the world.
"I have called the
best of every blood line in earth unto this generationÉI
have elected to bring them forth in this generationÉTHE
ELECT GENERATIONÉeven the bloodline of PaulÉof DavidÉof
Peter, James and JohnÉThey will even be superior to them in
heart, stature and love for me'ÉYour children will possess
the spirit without measureÉThey will move into things of the
supernatural that no one has ever moved in beforeÉcoming
into the DIVINE NATURE of Jesus ChristÉa Church that has
reached the full maturity of the GODMAN! This generationÉis going to see the
beginning of this WORLD WIDE NEW ORDER."(3)
having difficulty discerning or receiving this
have been interpreting your Bible in the "old way,"
comparing Scripture with Scripture, studying diligently to
account for every jot and tittle and being careful to
rightly divide the Word of truth.
"If this describes
you, then you belong to the "Old Generation"
enter in to
"possess the land" in the Latter Rain Revival.
You may even be a member of a denominational church, with its
dogmatic confession of faith and statement of
forms will be
relics of the past in the up and coming "Post-denominational
Paul Cain advises that
you "dump all that carnal stuff" (doctrine)
to what the "spirit" is saying to the churches through the
Prophets and Apostles, who are dispensing many "new, sacred truths.
Are you wondering by
the modern Prophets and Apostles presume to confer this Divine Right upon themselves and their
followers? Not to worry! Paul Crouch, President of Trinity
Broadcasting Network, has provided the following exegesis of
parable of the Wheat and the Tares in Matthew 13:24-30 and
you will see that at the end of this age the "ANGELS" are
sent forth to remove evil from the earth. That word "ANGELS"
also means messengers. So God may use some of us to finish up the
work of this age."(4)
Those who would be
chosen as the elect Manifest Sons of God by the modern Apostles and Prophets, must first
repent of their
old divisive attitude of separation from
cannot incarnate a divided church -- therefore we will need to
be delivered from our narrow doctrinal point of
view and join
the ecumenical crowd on the Broad Way (to destruction). It
matters not that the blood of the martyrs was shed contending for the
faith that was once delivered to the saints.
persist in being contentious about doctrine may join them when the great
"revival" arrives circa A.D. 2000.
|Myths and Old Wives'
Let's now consider how
Bloesch actually handles the Word of God, and see which
passages are not for him because he cannot make them fit. On
the last page of A Theology of Word and Spirit Bloesch
argues that the claims of Christianity are true because they
are grounded in "events that really happened" and that their
credibility is confirmed in the hearts of believers by the
Spirit of God "through the ages where the Bible is read and
believed and where faith is proclaimed in fidelity and
love." Which are the "events that really happened"? Does he
refer to the events recorded in Scripture? The temptation of
Adam and Eve? The tower of Babel? The flood? The miraculous
crossing of the Red Sea? The angelic destruction of the army
of Assyrians described in 2 Kings 19? Apparently not,
according to Bloesch's elaboration in Holy Scripture.
accounts are all partly mythological, possibly having some
relationship to a distant historical event, but surely
colored by the now defunct world-views of the various
authors of Scripture (see his chapter "The Bible &
Myth," pp. 255-277). What, then, does Bloesch mean when he
piously refers in the conclusion of his first volume to
those who throughout church history have "read and believed
the Bible"? Does Bloesch really mean to commend those who
read the Bible and believe it? Believe what? The events
recorded in it? Just how much of the Bible is to be believed
anyway? Are the miracles and words of Christ historically
accurate? Shall we believe the stories in the early chapters
of Genesis? Jeffrey J. Meyers Critique
In Christianity and
Barthianism Van Til calls attention to one of Klass
Schilder's central concerns in his critique of Barth:
"...the deepest line of division in theology lies at the
point where some believe and others do not believe in
Scripture as a direct revelation of God. And with it goes
the fact that those who believe in Scripture at the same
time and in the same act of believing hold to direct,
factual revelation of God through Christ in history."
Bloesch makes it abundantly clear in chapter three, "The
Meaning of Revelation," which side of the divide he is on.
Consider these statements:
law and the
Gospel cannot be equated with objective
propositions either in the creeds of the church
or in Holy
- "God's revelation
is his commandment and his promise. . . . Yet they
what is objectively written."
- "We cannot hold
the Word of God in our hands or in our minds. . ."
- "I hold that the
Word of God or the truth of revelation is embedded in Scripture. . ."
- "Yet our final
authority is not what the Bible says but what God says in the
Indeed, some things that his [God's] witnesses say [the
prophets and apostles speaking in Scripture] fall short
of the full picture that God invites us to see."
- "Against later
orthodoxy and fundamentalism, I hold that the words of
the Bible are revelatory but not revealed; they conform to the revelation and
convey the revelation through the Spirit. The
propositions in the Bible are the result of revelation,
the concrete embodiment of revelation and the vehicle of
- "Scripture is one step
removed from revelation."
- "The Bible
participates in the transcendent Word of God-not directly
but through the Spirit of God."
- "If the biblical text were
itself revelation, then human reason could directly
and even critique the Word of God."
- "It should be
readily apparent that my stand is in contradiction to a
biblicism that bases the authority of the Bible on its
divine perfection as a supernatural book.?
|Compare Bill Bright's Four
Spiritual Laws. He left out a few also.
- 1. God loves you:
- "For God so
loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son,
that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but
have eternal life" (John 3:16).
- 2. Man is sinful
and separated from God.
- "For all have
sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Rom.
3:23); "For the wages of sin is death" (Rom. 6:23);
"But your iniquities have made a separation between
you and your God"
- 3. Jesus Christ is
God's only provision for man's sin.
- "I am the way,
and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the
Father, but through Me" (John 14:6); "But God
demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we
were yet sinners, Christ died for us" (Rom.
- 4. We must
individually receive Jesus as Savior and Lord.
- "But as many as
received Him, to them He gave the right to become
children of God, even to those who believe in His name"
- "if you
with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your
heart that God raised Him from the dead, you shall be
saved" (Rom. 10:9);
- "For by grace
you have been saved through faith; and that not of
yourselves, it is the gift of God" (Eph.
- Ephesians has a
FIRST HALF that the preachers of the ancient Pagan
baptism MISSED. Paul shows that we are raised up with
Christ using language identical to his baptism passages.
Therefore, as the Lord's Supper shows forth the Death of
Christ UNTIL HE RETURNS, Paul in Ephesians 2 proves that baptism
as the SHOWING ACT down through time of HOW God extends
slavation by grace through faith.
|by Dennis Downing
"For I decided to
know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him
crucified." (1 Corinthians 2:2 RSV)
In the world in which
we live, a lot of people are interested in what feels
relevant, seems "politically correct" or has a valid ring to
it. Few are
interested in the truth. But a lot of those same people are
desperately seeking truth in a relationship. They want
someone, at least one person to whom they can turn who will
not turn away.
not to an
idea but to a
person, not to a truth but to The Truth. Jesus proved he was
true to me when he died in my place.
proved he was the true way when he came back from the
When you really
come to know Jesus and him crucified --you know all you need to know.
You have come to
nothing but that truth will satisfy.
was not given a message or a doctrine to
was brought into a vivid, personal, overmastering
relationship to Jesus Christ. Verse 16 [Acts 26:16] is
immensely commanding--"o make thee a minister and a
Till I come,
give attendance to (public) reading, to exhortation, to
doctrine. 1 Tim 4:13. Paul DID NOT say that he was going to
PREACH only Christ and Him Crucified. How could Dennis get
PAID if that is all he PREACHED. Paul said that he would
KNOW. That means that he suffered just like Jesus Christ as
he DID PREACH baptism.
Of course, we miss the
point that Paul stopped there because the Corinthians were
still carnal confirmed by their composing their own songs
In Narrative Theology,
John York and Rubel Shelly would take the musical idolatry
at Mount Sinai which lost Israel God's Covenant of Grace and
had Him turn them over to worship the starry host (Acts 7),
have its second incarnation as a pattern for Christian
worship and community.
See Dennis Downing on Just
right to re-write Scripture. The canon (not necessarily of
biblical texts, but at least in the meanings of those texts)
believe that this is the meaning of being Post-Modern or
difficult to know whether Fish intended this as a
by-product, but the idea of authority resting in the interpretive
rise to narrative theology -- a theology which simply
affirms a given community's right to come up with its own
interpretation, or to "write" its own new biblical
Narrative theology gave rise to various narrative communities-- hence, the arrival
of liberation and feminist theologies.
recognize any absolute truth or meaning in a text. Because Buber is the
founder, most narrative theology, especially in Jewish
circles, is related to Auschwitz."
is the purpose of reading texts, for narrative theologians?
Why, of course, to affirm the self. Hazards in the Mainline.
A movement that
attempts to unite theology with social and religious concerns about oppression. It finds expressions among
blacks, feminists, Asians, Hispanics, and Native Americans,
but it is most closely identified with the shift toward
theologians and priests in Latin America.
Christianity are de-emphasized or
Jesus and the Bible are defined and interpreted in light of a class
gospel seen as a radical call to activism (or even revolution) promoting political and social answers usually in the form of
That is the meaning of
Community Church. And this explains why modern seeker forms
of religion try to reconstruct the Tower of Babel or Apollo's (Abbadon, Apollyon) Oracle which involves
the pyramidal system of "ministries" to try to control the
entire lives of people.
left us free to believe whatever we wish. However, the Christian
Religion is totally informed by the Old and New Testaments as a
history of God's dealing with mankind. It is also an experession of
His will about how we live right and practice social justice.
The apostles treat the "word" as that to which
we "give heed" as a clearly-defined act of worship: we worship
whatever or whomever we give attention to. If we give attention to
human performance then we are engaged in "the idolatry of
To repudiate the enlightment of the Word and
turn away is treated by Paul as unpardonable because we cannot live
by what we do not trust. And to repudiate the Apostles as inspired is
based on repudiating the mission of Christ to establish a spiritual
kingdom. Therefore, if the writings of the apostles are "narrated
memories" or fitting the lost "fragments" to their own agenda, then
the CORE GOSPEL rescued from a failed document is to repudiate Christ
Himself Who, as Spirit, promised to guide the writers into all
This is an anti-Christian view.
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