It is More Blessed to Give than Receive.
It is More Blessed to Give than Receive was spoken of the PASTORS and not to the church members scammed with the LAW OF TITHING or the LAW OF GIVING to support the WOLVES.
Bruce White: Tithing is a common thing in the first century church. Both Jewish Christians and Gentile converts practiced tithing. Now, tithing simply refers to 10 percent of your money, property, wealth, or crops, whatever.
We will address this misconception shortly. For now, look at how the GIVERS turn into RECEIVERS as the end-time MARK along with the restored Jubilee and the Levitical musical worship team whom it was predicted would attempt to triumph over or mock Lord Jesus even as He was dying to abrogate the TITHE and TEMPLE by living in our SPIRIT or most holy place and making each of us PRIESTS OF GOD.
All of the Hebrew tithing was given to the POOR. The priests and Levites were relatively poor because they did not receive a portion of the free lands in Canaan. However, like all priesthoods they worked for their living when not on duty.
It doesn't matter how much EVIDENCE you can collect about people getting rich as the result of tithing, the fact is that the Bible has to be evaluated based on Bibilical evidence.
The tithe was ONLY to the tribe of Levi and the priests tot a tithe of a tithe. That was on the 3rd and 6th years. No tithing on the 7th year and the other 4 tithes were consumed by the TITHER and the poor priests and Levites of his own town or at the festivals. This sermon preached by Bruce White at Madison Church of Christ. Our review is based on the fact that TITHING was to support the tribe of Levi after Israel fell back into musical idolatry at Mount Sinai and needed human MEDIATORS because they had lost THE BOOK OF THE COVENANT and were burdened with THE BOOK OF THE LAW to govern them until they were finally sentenced into Assyrian and Babylonian captivity and almost total destruction. This was recorded and with all sermons it is difficult to follow the path. If the sermon has been restated just let us know and we will correct it.
Bruce White: Now, who said, "It's more blessed to give than to receive"?
Hand waving, Ken replies: Well, that was NOT Jesus in exactly those terms.
What Jesus meant: That Evangelists must GO and SUFFER and not (in this passage) even take the begging bag to store up food.
What Paul directly commanded, exampled and gave instructions for disfellowship:
That as Jesus had no place to lay His head, Paul imitated Him and SUPPORTED HIMSELF just as all priests must have an occupation and be vocational ministers. Therefore, it is better to give.
The "many" riding on the backs of the new, too-tolerant church must WORK or they CANNOT eat. Therefore, it is better NOT to take.
Paul established this as a PATTERN for the church even though oxen are due their food WHILE they are harvesting the crop.
What both Jesus and Paul demanded is that a MINISTER must be a slave and can never be a DOMINANT PASTOR eating up the houses of widows and those who work in order to harvest the gift of God.
This is important because the rush backward to come under law has been witnessed by the Jubilee, musical "praise teams" to replace Lord Jesus as Mediator, and TITHING to support the Levitical singers and PRIESTLY class. All that remains is to slaughter animals in the church yard and toss the blood on the Lord's Table. This is all prophetic!
"Recording was of poor quality but did justice to the sermon."
I am including the first part to show what you get for about half of your TITHE.
Bruce White: Well, it's been church already hasn't it? And, Russ, the best is yet to come. Well, I enjoy being together on the Lord's Day. I ... I don't ... I just don't understand why there are folks who don't want to come into the assembly on the Lord's Day. That amazes me. It's so good to have all of you here today to worship with us, and [uh] how many of you read Chapter 2? I thought I heard someone say, "Chapter 2 of what?" [~~] All right, let's go ahead to Chapter 2 because if you haven't read Chapter 2, you're just not going to know what we're talking about today. That included Chapter 3 [~~]. You can read Chapter 3 this week. Anyone read Chapter 4 yet? That's good. You're not [~] class. That's good. All right, Chapter 3 is next week.
Chapter two is Kregg Hood's book on tithing by Sweet Publishing being peddled to unwitting churches of Christ. Kregg is charismatic and looks forward to raising the dead in the USA as they do among the Voodooers. We suggest that it might be difficult to use such a book without AFFIRMING the rest of the false theology.
You SHOULD NOT read the book until you decide that his book is more important than God's book.
Bruce White: I was visiting yesterday, my wife and I was with a couple, and [uh] Larry Sherry with us -- what does the two chapters that's been to them -- has pled to their lives.
And that's really what we want in this [uh]. Imagine if we could go get 5 more dollars a week out of you.
We'd be [~] and puttin' guilt trips and everything else on you .
You know I could get 5 bucks ... I ... I know that [uh] but that is not our intent.
That is not the purpose of giving money. I ... I ... I think you all know  that it is a fact that the ... the church is [uh] in need financially [~~]. But we're not looking at all of that.
I really don't care about budgets and contributions and numbers and all of this bunch.
I want more than anything else in the world ... for you to receive the blessings of God, and that's what this is all about ... for you to be blessed by the Lord in ways that you cannot imagine. And I ...I speak [uh] kind of personally on that -- it's been a practice in our family of 10 percent giving. And [uh] we started that when we didn't have 10 percent, [uh] we didn't have 2 percent,
we didn't have "O" percent.
We gave 10 of what we had,
This couldn't explain pagan religions any better: you come to the temple to be entertained and serviced by the temple musicians, you pay your bill and someone speaks "in tongues" and promises you that you have BOUGHT the best blessing for sale.
Nothing Christian is for sale and nothing for sale is Christian. God in Christ DIED for the honor of GIVING and not receiving: it is better to give even your life than to receive money for claiming to mediate.
Jesus couldn't have said it better: you have 0 percent you give 10 percent of 0 and that is what the FREE GOSPEL gives you: Jesus died to replace the musical Levites (doing hard bondage) and the priests killing animals so that YOU don't have to support the PRIESTS because YOU are now the singer and priest.
Therefore, this is ABSOLUTE BIBLICAL AUTHORITY to give to yourself or let your LEFT HAND give 10% or more if you wish to the RIGHT HAND or "taking hand" of the poor. If you give it to the singers, clappers and musicians then you STEAL from the poor and therefore STEAL from the Lord. The preacher and elders are NOT the Lord.
and the Lord blessed us unbelievably,
and [uh] not by our power, our might, but the Spirit of the Lord.
And I want you to enjoy those blessings [~~~].
Well, Chuck [~] then did a little follow-up on [~] what our people think about these days: winning the lottery, instant billions. Well, [~] did some follow-up work, and [uh] he reported some things about that. He reported ... reported for instance about La Rose Graeta of the state of Washington who won in some lotto 400 dollars a week for the rest of her life. She ran off to hide in her apartment [~~] secluded [~~] a nerve problem she never had before in her entire life.
She said that everyone that knows her [~] her [~] tries to [~~] on her. And she said (quote), "People are so mean -- I hope you win the lottery and see what happens to you." Well, that's sad. And then there's reports that the [~] of New York who won the Irish Sweepstakes, a million dollars. And with interest alone, that's [~] thousand a year. The father in this family was a [~~], and Johnny, a 26-year old son, was a dockworker loading crates on the dock. And Tim, the other son, was going to night school. And so Pop split the million with his sons, and they all said that this money is not going to change ìthe plans of our lives." One year later, [~~~~~~~] the boys weren't speaking to Pop or to each other. Johnny was chasing expensive racehorses, and Tim was chasing expensive girls. Mom accused Pop of hiding his stash from her, and within two years all of them were in [~] tax evasion.
Mom said it's the devil's own money. The boys are now studying to become hard alcoholics. And all of these people who hoped and prayed for sudden wealth had their prayers answered.
Well, I don't know about you, but I think I'll take my blessing just a little at a time from the Lord. Jenny and I have prayed almost all of our married life that if the Lord did bless us with ... with just enough and never too much. I don't want the Lord to give me more than I can handle. And so if we invest ourselves in godliness and in the way that God tells us to deal with His blessings, then He just continually brings [~~~]. It's just a basic thing. The basic thing -- that's just [~] the lives of an awful lot of people.
Bruce White the SUDDENLY EXPLODING PROOF TEXT:
Now, who said, "It's more blessed to give than to receive"? Was that some [~] who were working on a sermon outlines and said, "Boy that one we do appreciate"?
Was it a commentator interpreting some text in the Bible that said, "It's more blessed to give than to receive"?
Well, Jesus did promise to appear to Paul to, like the othe apostles, refresh His memory and guide him into all truth. We don't hear Jesus SAYING that exactly that way in the Bible
"about GIVING or TITHING TO the preacher
"but how the PREACHER must LABOR WITH HIS OWN HANDS to support himself, his TEAM and have something left over to give to the poor.
Bruce White: No, it was Jesus.
And Paul quotes Jesus along that line in Acts chapter 20 verse 35: "It's more blessed to give than to receive." So the question that comes to you and me, how blessed do we want to be? Just how blessed do we want to be!
Jesus specificially warned about preachers who stole the houses (church houses) of widows. As Paul knew only Christ and Him crucified (he preached other things) we need to KNOW about Jesus;
And a certain scribe came, and said unto him, Master, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest. Mt 8:19
And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head. Mt.8:20
If Jesus defended tithing then why didn't He even hint that people should give him a pillow in order to be blessed?
Jesus in the LIMITED COMMISSION really said:
AND when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease. Matthew 10:1
But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Matthew 10:6
And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Matthew 10:7
Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils:
freely ye have received, freely give. Matthew 10:8
The Sweet Publishing writer speaks in tongues, heals (we understand) and hopes for someone in the USA to raise the dead. If Bruce White had EVER GOTTEN the power to raise the dead then he could GIVE and be more blessed.
But he who is enrolled in the number of men [Ps. li. 7-12.] ought not to desire recompense.
For he that vaunts his good services, receives glory as his reward.
And he who does any duty for the sake of recompense, is he not held fast in the custom of the world, either as one who has done well, hastening to receive a reward, or as an evil-doer avoiding retribution?
We must, as far as we can, imitate the Lord. I And he will do so, who complies with the will of God,
receiving freely, giving freely, and receiving as a worthy reward the citizenship itself.
"The hire of an harlot shall not come into the sanctuary," it is said: accordingly it was forbidden to bring to the altar the price of a dog. (male prostitute)
Accordingly in "The Laws," the philosopher who learned from the Hebrews, Plato, commands husbandmen
not to irrigate or take water from others, until they have first dug down in their own ground to what is called the virgin soil, and found it dry.
For it is right to supply want, but it is not well to support laziness.
For Pythagoras said that,
"although it be agreeable to reason to take a share of a burden, it is not a duty to take it away."
But every deceptive PROOF-TEXT has a context supplied by God to whack false teachers over the head.
The evangelist MUST be a sacrificial giver and Jesus deprived him of not only the TITHE but anything but a place at the table of those who would give it:
Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses, Matthew 10:9
Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat. Matthew 10:10
J. W. McGarvey noted that almost all preachers come out of poor families and live sacrificial lives. His observation, like that of Paul, that restricting the GIVERS to self-sacrificers is the only thing which keeps the rich and destructive out of the ministry.
Among the Jubilee crowd we often hear about the NOW BUT NOT YET KINGDOM. No wonder they RESTORE the Levitical Musical Worship team to make a great crashing noise while they SACRIFICE JESUS by mocking Him musically just as Psalm 41 prophesied.
Since this produces a FAILING "house" unless you use physical extorters and join the Mormons and Seventh Day Adventist in demanding the Tithe, honest and literate Christians will just flee from you like you were cursed with a plague for trying to restore legalistic Judaism.
Just as Paul provided for the "temple worker" or "soldier" who lived in poverty and was given a DAILY DOLE OF FOOD, the disciples were to eat whatever people gave them. No scipt meant that they were NOT to take the "begging bag." In the Great Commission they were able to take their own purse with their own money in it into which they might accept gifts but NOT tithes.
We have noted that Madison is using Kregg Hood's book on tithing and that Kregg seems interested in getting rid of conservatives, speaks in tongues, believes in healing and yearns for RAISING THE DEAD just like they do in Africa using VOODOO (puffer fish) to raise the dead, RAISE THE BUDGET and fool the fools. See our review of Kregg Hood.
Except for LOCATED EVANGELISTS texts always have a context. They have a before and an after. The preacher has unwittingly (or some kind of wittingly) stumbled onto the MINE which blows up in his face.
John Calvin asks: "Why should the plowing oxen starve and the lazy ASS be fed"? Well, being Biblically literate and honest he knew what Paul was REALLY condemning:
> For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Acts 20:29
Grievous wolves "bind heavy burdens":
Barus (g926) bar-ooce'; from the same as 922; weighty, i.e. (fig.) burdensome, grave: - grievous, heavy, weightier.
One of the BURDENS laded on the backs of people used like PACK ANIMALS was "spiritual anxiety created by religious rituals." At the Tower of Babel and in churches which attract crowds and exhort giving and tithing, music is the most powerful creator of SPIRITUAL ANXIETY.
For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on mens shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. Mt.23:4
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. 1Jn.5:3
There is always in the world the CHRIST spirit and the Anti-Christ spirit.
Wolves: the CODE word for Apollo, Abaddon or Apollyon and his MUSES or musical worship team (Revelation 18 shows their return to Sheol)
ALL religious musical performers were prostitutes--male and female. The word PSALLO from which disturbed theologians get the authority for MUSICAL WORSHIP always appears in the Greek literature in connection with ARROW SHOOTERS or males plucking the harp to groom young boys for sex.
This now archaic term was used in New York's homosexual underworld early in the 20th Century to refer to an adult man who pursued boys as sexual partners. The wolf often identified as heterosexual, and his sexual behavior fit the pattern of Greco-Roman pederasty. This form of same-sex eroticism may have come to New York via Italian immigrants. In many regions of Italy at the time, pederasty was tolerated, or at least not as stigmatized as it is today.
Lukos (g3074) loo'-kos; perh. akin to the base of 3022 (from the whitish hair); a wolf: - wolf.
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Mt.7:15
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Mt.10:16
But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. Jn.10:12
lukos [u^], ho,
A. wolf, Il.16.156, 352; polios grisly, 10.334; kraterônuches Od.10.218 ; oresteroi ib.212; ômophagoi Il.16.156 ; koilogastores A.Th.1041 ; the small Egyptian wolves mentioned by Hdt. 2.67 were perh. jackals: various kinds distd. by Opp.C.3.293 sqq.: prov. lukon idein to see a wolf, i. e. to be struck dumb, as was vulgarly believed of any one at whom a wolf got the first look (Pl.R.336d), Theoc.14.22; lukou ptera, of things that are not, 'pigeon's milk', Suid.; hôs l. chanôn, of vain expectation, Eub.15.11, cf. Ar.Fr.337, [p. 1065] Euphro 1.31; l. kechênôs Ar.Lys.629 ; prin ken l. oin humenaioi, of an impossibility,
ores-teros , a, on, poet. for oreinos, epith. of a snake, Il.22.93 ; of wolves and lions, Od.10.212 ;
A. orestera pambôti ga S.Ph.391 (lyr.); parthenos E.Tr.551 (lyr.); agreutêres Opp.H.4.586 . (Posit. Adj. formed from oros to, opp. agroteros from agros.)
A. sing the wedding-song, A.Pr.557 (lyr.).
2. wed, take to wife, kouras Theoc.22.179 : prov., prin ken lukos oin humenaioi Ar.Pax1076 (hex.).
Similar Greek: psaltôid-eô ,
A. sing to the harp, LXX 2 Ch.5.13.
A. singing to the harp, Aristid.2.310J.The WOLF singing a wedding sont to the ram and the ewe
Aeschylus, Prometheus Bound I have learned this lesson from observing the luck, Prometheus, that has brought about your ruin. And the difference in the song stole into my thought  --this song and that, which, about your bridal bed and bath, I raised to grace your marriage, when you wooed with gifts  and won my sister Hesione to be your wedded wife.
sportulo , a-vi, 1, v. n.,
I. to take the dole of a patron (late Lat.), Cypr. Ep. 6, 6.
Id.Pax1076, 1112, cf. Il.22.263; hôs lukoi arn' agapôsin, of treacherous or unnatural love, Poet. ap. Pl.Phdr.241d; lukou bion zên, i. e. live by rapine, Prov. ap. Plb.16.24.4; ek lukou stomatos, of getting a thing praeter . peri phrear choreuei, of those engaged in vain pursuits,
Lukos continued: VI. nickname of paiderastai, AP12.250 (Strat.), cf. Pl.Phdr. 241d
paiderast-ês , ou, ho, A. lover of boys, mostly in bad sense, Ar.Ach.265(lyr.), X.An.7.4.7, Pl. Smp.192b, Eub.130, etc.
Lukeios [u^], on, S.El.7, E.Rh.208 (but lukeia (q. v.) as Subst. in Plb.):--
A. of or belonging to a wolf, dora E.l.c., etc.
II. Lukeios (written Lukêos Milet.1(7) No.282 (i B.C.)), epith. of Apollo, either as lukoktonos (q. v.), or as the Lycian god (v. Lukêgenês, Lukios), or (fr. Lukê) as the god of light: Lukei' Apollon A.Ag.1257 ; eumenês d' ho L. estô Id.Supp.686 (lyr.); in Id.Th.145 (lyr.) there is a play upon the doubtful meanings, Lukei' anax, lukeios genou stratôi daïôi, Lycean lord, be a very wolf to the enemy; so tou lukoktonou theou agora Lukeios (this agora being an open place in Argos near the temple of Apollo Lukeios) S.l.c.; cf. Lukeion.
Jesus accused the clergy as CLERGY playing musical games in the AGORA or marketplace. They were CHORUS LEADERS who were mistreated. They wanted to INITIATE Jesus into the Dionysus or Bacchus singing and dancing:
Lu.7:32 They are like unto children sitting in the marketplace (Agora), and calling one to another, and saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned to you, and ye have not wept.
This is the meaning of the end time LUCIFER or ZOE hostile takeovers.
lucifico , a-re, v. a. [lux-facio] , to make bright, to brighten: lucificare exitum alicujus aetati, Lab. ap. Gell. 10, 17 fin.
> Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Acts 20:30
Diastrepho (g1294) dee-as-tref'-o; from 1223 and 4762; to distort, i.e. (fig.) misinterpret, or morally corrupt: - perverse (- rt), turn away.
The Sorcerer used music to stroke the mind to deceive it. Jesus said:
And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? Ac.13:10
> Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. Acts 20:31
It was the Israelite ELDERS who "fired" God and demanded "Set a king over us."
This is fulfilled when peer-selected elders "set a preacher over us."
The APOSTASY always came from church leaders who came flooding in from PAGANISM when they discovered that there was money, power or glory in being a CHURCHMAN.
> And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified. Acts 20:32
Both Paul and Peter warn against anyone who teaches other than "that which has been taught." The reasons are:
The Word is inspired by the Lord so who would WANT to pervert it but Satan.
The Word will accomplish what God wants it to accomplish.
If you ignore this direct commandment you invite the false prophets to steal from you.
This is not DOODLING FOR DOLLARS: the inheritance is spiritual. Better deal with Oral Roberts if you want cash. The inheritance is:
Kleronomia (g2817) klay-ron-om-ee'-ah; from 2818; heirship, i.e. (concr.) a patrimony or (gen.) a possession: - inheritance.
The inheritance COULD NOT be based on the legalist tithing or it would NO LONGER be the gospel:
For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise. Ga.3:18
The TITHE was the inheritance of the tribe of LEVI only and it was by the Covenant made with Levi.
Paul says that there is NO SPIRITUAL inheritance from the law.
No, don't eve think it: Abraham gave a Canaanite King and Priest 10% of the LOOT of the king of SODOM because the king kept order. The Legal TITHE paid for many civil functions and the tribe gave 10% to the priest.
Abraham was wealthy and gave the king 0% of his own money. Abraham never tithed again.
Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. Ep.1:14
The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, Ep.1:18
To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, 1Pe.1:4
> I have coveted no mans silver, or gold, or apparel. Acts 20:33
But, Paul, how can you VALIDATE your ministry?
> Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. Acts 20:34
But Bruce White said that the early Jewish and Gentile Christians TITHED. Well, says Paul, "must be the super apostles trained in the Greek Theater. Didn't I tell you that they were robbers"?
> I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said,
It is more blessed to give than to receive. Ac.20:35
How can you bless others by giving? Is that by TITHING? No. Paul says that it is by LABORING to support yourself AND the widows: No, you cannot steal the church houses of widows without being a terminal thief.
As soon as those trained in the Greek theater discovered how gullible the Christians were, they came flocking out of the pagan temples claiming a SALARY. But, Paul told us that that would be unlawful. Well, you know that Paul's sermons were not WORTH a wage. Paul therefore had to classify a wage as ROBBERY to make the meaning of GOSPEL and the FREE WATER OF THE WORD (Isa. 55) have ANY ring of honesty.
The "many" among the Thessalonians certainly knew how to preach without having to WORK: Armchair Evangelists.
So being affectionately desirous of you, we were willing to have imparted unto you,
not the gospel of God only,
but also our own souls, because ye were dear unto us. 1 Thessalonians 2:8
Preacher, you cannot TAKE from one you love!
For ye remember, brethren, our labour and travail:
............for labouring night and day,
............ because we would not be chargeable unto any of you,
............ we preached unto you the gospel of God. 1 Thessalonians 2:9
Ye are witnesses, and God also, how holily and justly and unblameably we behaved ourselves among you that believe: 1 Thessalonians 2:10
As ye know how we exhorted and comforted and charged every one of you, as a father doth his children, 1 Thessalonians 2:11
This is how one is BLESSED by giving and is cursed by TAKING A TITHE claiming to be members of the tribe of LEVI!
Paul, then, laid down a DIRECT COMMAND or an ABSOLUTE RULE which had always been followed by HONESGT priests all of whom (like Paul) were "trained up in the way he should go" and MUST have an occupation or be tossed out as the early church did those who claimed to be apostles:
For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you; 2 Thess 3:7
Neither did we eat any mans bread for nought;
The TITHE was only FOOD and Paul says "here is a PATTERN" and a DIRECT COMMAND. Here is how you can keep from actually being DISORDERLY in the church:
If you take BREAD without paying. No. Preaching did not constitute LABOR WHICH DEMANDED A WAGE.
but wrought with labour and travail night and day,
............ that we might not be chargeable to any of you: 2 Thess 3:8
Not because we have not power,
............ but to make ourselves an ensample unto you
............ to follow us. 2 Thess 3: 9
The soldier had to virtually take a vow of poverty: he was OWED his daily dole of food but he was not OWED a retirement plan.
The OXEN nibbled while threshing out the neighbor's grain but he did not move in with the farmer to WINTER OVER.
The temple worker too a daily dole of food WHILE living in the temple but he bought his own new chariot by working.
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. 2 Thess 3: 10
For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. 2 Thess 3: 11
This is not the "civilians" Paul is warning about: this is the roving band of preachers seeking to live off widows:
for labouring night and day,
because we would not be chargeable unto any of you,
we preached unto you the gospel of God. 1 Thessalonians 2:9
Go to workshops to "steal prophecies" form one another, organize the Jubilee FOR THE ATONEMENT, showcase our "idolatry of talent."
The disorderly are insubordinate religiously.
Therefore, these were preachers seeing godliness as a means of financial gain.
Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work,
and eat their own bread. 2 Thess 3: 12
No one would tolerate Local Joe for not working and trying to live off the others! Therefore, these are PREACHERS paul is comanding to "work and eat their own bread" which will still give them as much time to PREACH as others have to LISTEN.
And if you have someone who just ignores the inspired word of God:
But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing. 2 Thess 3: 13
And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. 2 Thess 3: 14
Here is what Paul shows:
Using the 'more blessed' example turns around and shoots the truth distorter right in the belly.
Both Jesus and Paul make it clear that the EVANGELIST is the GIVER.
He gives the Free Water of the Word.
He works to support himself.
He works to support his TEAM.
He uses this GIVING as an example, command and exhortation.
He would support the widow rather than to INTIMIDATE her making her give more using the LAW OF GIVING perverted along with the TITHING legalism to support the musical legalism.
He would INSIST that if the LOCATED EVANGELIST does not immediately get an honest job you should MARK him, SHUN him and hopefully if he has any spirituality left he will be ASHAMED of his stealing from widows and unbelievers.
So, the PROOF TEXT used to try to extort more money out of those who LABOR WITH THEIR OWN HANDS to support those WHO DON'T, is God pouring out His wrath by INSPIRING the use of a PROOF TEXT which will GAG the UNGAGABLE.
What shall be the punishment for LEGALISTS presuming on your free will and STEALING the gospel from you which gives you REST. Here is what you MUST do as you REPENT:
If the hirelings who refuse to GO want to extort money by the use of LEGALISM here is how God insists that you respond.
First, there is not LAW OF GIVING and even conservatives had better repent and quit lying to God and the congregation.
The ONLY collection involved the mainly poor trying to keep the starving alive. Therefore Paul said:
Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. 1 Corinthians 16:2
Paul wrote that this was not a command but then wrote:
Therefore I thought it necessary to exhort the brethren, that they would go before unto you, and make up beforehand your bounty, whereof ye had notice before, that the same might be ready, as a matter of bounty, and not as of covetousness. 2Co.9:5
They laid by THEMSELVES a growing sum each week.
They kept that money by themselves until the honest team got there.
Paul's agents MADE UP THEIR BOUNTY. That is, the FIRST and only collection went from the LEFT hand of the workers into the RIGHT hand of the trusted team of Paul.
If any weekly collections were demanded while Paul might spend the winter, it would smack of EXTORTION.
So, until there is repentance for trying to drag you out from under the cross and back to the killing grounds of musical noise makers and thrown blood, you have the permission of Jesus and Paul to lay your money BY YOURSELF just as Paul gave a direct command and just as the early church practiced it.
No, the early church DID NOT TITHE. It would have repudiated Lord Jesus Christ.
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